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I've been alarmed at the amount of snapped 12mm axle stories on here! I want to stiffen up t'backend. I've got both sets of dropouts for the Meta and can go for either a 12mm thru or 10mm jumbo thru QR. I was thinking the thicker axle of the 10mm thru setup may be more durable.

Have I miss read something? Is a Maxle a branded 12mm thru? I'm looking at the Superstar parts as they're affordable/look ok.

Thanks for reading, replies highly appreciated!


 
Posted : 27/04/2011 4:10 pm
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If you have current QR dropouts, look at combining the Azonic Momentum axle (IIRC - it's on CRC), and 135x12mm Pro2 kit.

Poor mans maxle, but rock solid.


 
Posted : 27/04/2011 4:28 pm
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That Azonic thingy looks pretty heavy.

I think I'm going with the 10mm bolt-in, £20 instead of £36 for axle and conversion kit.

Chap at LBS reckons they're the shiz. It quells my 12mm nerves too.


 
Posted : 27/04/2011 5:36 pm
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The 12mm axles breaking is down to the Maxle light/lite which has a thinner middle section so doesn't support the inside of the axle properly. The original Maxle is fine.

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Posted : 27/04/2011 9:34 pm
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Thats correct, i snapped 2, main bearing, behind the freehub body has no support.

Fix #1 - Duck / Gaffa tape around the thinner section to make a little bit of support

Fix # 2 - eBay, picked up a old school maxle for £20 from france a few months ago, not snapped an internal pro 2 axle since.

Fix # 3 - Dont use Pro2 Hubs 😉


 
Posted : 27/04/2011 9:56 pm
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The 12mm axles breaking is down to the Maxle light/lite which has a thinner middle section so doesn't support the inside of the axle properly. The original Maxle is fine.

Not the case- the axle is just too weak, it can snap even with a solid axle. The maxle lite makes it a much bigger problem but it's not up to Rockshox to make Hope's product work- the axle's paper thin and this is the result.

Which is one of the reasons Hope have made the Pro 2 Evo- so Herman Shake, you might want to check with Hope to see if the new axle is backwards compatible, there's conflicting rumours- some folks have said that with a bearing and freehub swap it goes. Alternatively you can just use the maxle and hope it doesn't break, and get a warranty replacement if it does- Hope were very slow to fix the problem but they're good at dealing with it when it happens.

I can't feel any stiffness difference with the 10mm bolt-in or bolt-through but then my bike's got a rear end like the forth bridge so that might be why.


 
Posted : 27/04/2011 10:51 pm
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So one of these should work then (the 135, not the 150)?

As I just bought the 12mm dropouts off someone I'm keen to try it, but then again the 10mm bolt-in looks pretty solid. Seeing as it's Hope too, I like that I can phone/blame them if all parts come from Barnoldswick. I hear their customer service is pretty good.


 
Posted : 27/04/2011 10:52 pm
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Northwind; I ride a Meta with a qr rear. They're known for having mushy rear ends, like the ladies in the queue for Mecca bingo.

I imagined the only differences between bolt in and thru would be a few grammes and a little convenience. Oh, and about £16!

I was thinking about the 10mm thru (found a non evo one), then getting some Ti bolts to replace the SS ones.

I can't help but feel 10mm is going to be safer...


 
Posted : 27/04/2011 10:58 pm
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Northwind; I ride a Meta with a qr rear. They're known for having mushy rear ends, like the ladies in the queue for Mecca bingo.

Aye, I've heard that, it could well make more of a difference on a frame like that.

If you can turn it around within a couple of weeks, I could send you a 10mm bolt-through kit and 10mm Superstar axle to try... I don't see me using the big wheels til the middle of next month. I use the bolt-in all the time in the hemlock so can't spare it though.


 
Posted : 27/04/2011 11:56 pm
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I've only ever heard of problems with maxle lite though. My old style maxle is fine so I'm clearly not rad enough.


 
Posted : 28/04/2011 7:20 am
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Northwind, are these a try n buy if I like or to try out and see, then post back to you?

Either way, that's very helpful of you 😀

Drop me a mail at shameer AT gmx DOT co DOT uk


 
Posted : 28/04/2011 7:39 am
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I have a regular maxle in my Alpine and i have managed to break my pro 2 axle 3 times now. It always breaks just in front of the first bearing behind the freehub. Im going to send them to Hope soon.


 
Posted : 28/04/2011 8:09 am