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Either offset bushings or headset heatube.

i am very much interested in the calculation side of things in mathematical form or graph form.

for a project i am on with at the moment.


 
Posted : 31/03/2013 9:09 am
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Sohcahtoa?

What is the question?


 
Posted : 31/03/2013 9:47 am
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Sohcahtoa yes in that form would be a good start.

if i install some offset bushings how is the calculations worked out?


 
Posted : 31/03/2013 9:52 am
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Draw a line along steerer, through hub.
Measure angle from vertical.
Or am I missing something?

Anyone interested in a works components +1 headset? Tapered HT type?


 
Posted : 31/03/2013 10:01 am
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Bicycling Science goes into a lot of detail on the maths of head angles - the old edition especially.


 
Posted : 31/03/2013 10:27 am
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Try this app:

[url= https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.autodesk.fbd.activities&hl=en&referrer=utm_source%3Dgoogle%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_term%3Dautodesk+forceeffect ]Autodesk Force Effect[/url]

Take before and after photographs and measure the angle.


 
Posted : 31/03/2013 10:31 am
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Doesn't that assume your camera-holding skills are accurate? ๐Ÿ˜‰

I just use an iPhone app to measure frame angles. Even made a special holder to use on tubes:

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Posted : 31/03/2013 10:34 am
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[url= http://www.bikechecker.com/ ]linkage[/url]

Not used it for what your after but may be of some use.


 
Posted : 31/03/2013 10:36 am
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Ben, see what you are saying, but you trace over the photo in the app to form lines and intersections. The app then calcs the angles from your drawn lines.

I suppose you could set up a tripod and set the bike at a specific distance away for accuracy.


 
Posted : 31/03/2013 10:38 am
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[url= http://gearinches.com/blog/misc/bike-geometry-comparator ]http://gearinches.com/blog/misc/bike-geometry-comparator[/url]


 
Posted : 31/03/2013 10:58 am
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Bencooper, you were already quite high in my estimation even before I saw your Iphonespiritlevelthing, fab.


 
Posted : 31/03/2013 8:06 pm
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Doesn't that assume your phone is correct? Mine often tells me im in Coventry, which is a couple of hundred miles away.


 
Posted : 31/03/2013 8:20 pm
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I did wonder about that, but tried calibrating it against various things, and also tested repeatability - accuracy seems to be less than 1 degree, repeatability about 0.2 degrees.

So perfectly good for my purposes, which is really double-checking frame angles.


 
Posted : 31/03/2013 8:43 pm