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I posted earlier in the week regarding finding a crack in the head tube/down tube junction. This leaves me in the market for a new frame.

Current options and thoughts are:

- Second hand 853 PA to match what I had previously
- New PA although I think they're not as hardcore as they used to be, Mike has quoted me trade price
- New Dialled Alpine also at trade price
- On One Summer Season
- On One 456
- Ragley Blue Pig

I loved the way the original PA rode and used it for everything from XC to DH. Only thing is I would have liked a slightly slacker head angle for the steeper downs and messing about as this is what the majority of my riding involves these days.

What are peoples thoughts and recommendations?


 
Posted : 15/07/2011 9:19 pm
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Get an Alpine!


 
Posted : 15/07/2011 9:20 pm
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I cannot belive the Bfe is not on that list, IMHO its the best of all the hardcore steel hardtails


 
Posted : 15/07/2011 9:27 pm
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I'm pretty sure Mike at Dialled might replace it...


 
Posted : 15/07/2011 9:35 pm
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No the frame was well out of warranty so gave me choice of PA and Alpine at trade prices, circa £100 less than RRP.

Cotic Bfe would be good but need something around £300 or less as totally skint at this time.


 
Posted : 15/07/2011 9:47 pm
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I recommend you buy my 853 prince albert .Happy days all round


 
Posted : 15/07/2011 10:07 pm
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I am considering!!! Have you got some close up pics?


 
Posted : 15/07/2011 10:09 pm
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Don't fancy an MmmBop then?


 
Posted : 15/07/2011 10:13 pm
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New PA although I think they're not as hardcore as they used to be, Mike has quoted me trade price

really? what makes you think that?


 
Posted : 15/07/2011 10:15 pm
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BFe = 370 delivered. Not that far out of your bracket. Save for a week and you'll have it.


 
Posted : 15/07/2011 10:34 pm
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do you some pics tomorrow


 
Posted : 15/07/2011 10:37 pm
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Alpine at trade price - yes please! (wish I had a broken PA)


 
Posted : 15/07/2011 10:52 pm
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+1 Alpine at cost. More suited to your current riding than the PA, and better value than the competition given Mike's offer. Got a Mk1 and love it.


 
Posted : 16/07/2011 11:57 am
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Alpine. An complete and utter blast of a bike. I love mine.


 
Posted : 16/07/2011 12:05 pm
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i want toys19's life, where you have £70 surplus income in a week!

Is the current PA still the same geometry as your was? if so i would plump for that.... that said the alpine is hardly heavy and i love mine, just as well as it took me three years to save up for it


 
Posted : 16/07/2011 12:25 pm
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HA , I mean imagine if you thought about it you could save 70 quid in a week, eat as low budget as possible, never eat out, always cycle don't train/drive, dont buy a single pint. Most people widdle £70 a week away on so called "neccesities".


 
Posted : 16/07/2011 4:51 pm
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MrSmith - I think the tubes have been reduced in size and some minor geometry tweaks.

toys19 - There is no way I could save an extra £70 a week. I cut out all luxury items some time ago when I got my mortgage!

I love the way the PA rode, used it for everything, only time I wanted a slacker head angle was on the downhill trails at Innerleithen. For 98% of riding the PA felt fine.


 
Posted : 17/07/2011 12:41 pm
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Alpine!


 
Posted : 17/07/2011 12:45 pm
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OP - Why not ship it off to a professional to be repaired and repainted?


 
Posted : 17/07/2011 12:48 pm
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MrSmith - I think the tubes have been reduced in size and some minor geometry tweaks.

i would check the facts with the organ grinder 🙂


 
Posted : 17/07/2011 1:09 pm
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[url= http://wideopenmag.co.uk/news/5765/dialled-bikes-prince-albert-mk2-is-go ]Geometry Change[/url]

[url= http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/dialled-pa-or-cotic-soul ]Top Tube Thickness[/url]


 
Posted : 17/07/2011 1:51 pm
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so is it 'not as hardcore' ?


 
Posted : 17/07/2011 2:29 pm
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Kevster, Gary Lager is advertising a BFe in the classifieds.


 
Posted : 17/07/2011 3:12 pm
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If you love the way it rides, then repair / paint sounds like the way to go to me.


 
Posted : 17/07/2011 5:03 pm
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It's a steel frame. Get it repaired but not repainted. Scars should be worn with pride!


 
Posted : 17/07/2011 6:39 pm
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What ^^^^ said, it IS steel four-fox-ache


 
Posted : 17/07/2011 6:55 pm
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I was going to get it repaired/repainted but not sure it would be as strong as it once was so was going to keep it for possibly making up a second bike in the future.


 
Posted : 18/07/2011 7:26 am
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I have had a MKII and MKIII PA.

The latter really was brilliant.
I have also ridden the alpine.

I think what you ride will dictate any decision between these 2 dialled frames.

The PA really does do it all, and is slightly lighter than the alpine and I'd say a slightly softer feel (perhaps having less bracing designed into the frame).
To crack a PA is an achievement - they are bullet proof (IMHO), I chucked mine (both models) off everything I had the balls to ride.
Are you sure its cracked, I had a custom paint job done on my MKIII and the surface of the paint cracked around where the down tube joins the head tube, I rubbed the paint off and the weld was fine below, just the painted had fractured.

A riding friend got an alpine, which ticked some of the boxes for changes I'd want to make a PA perfect (for me), lower top tube, slacker HA. However the PA has a character when ridden that makes it so good, not sure messing with the ingredients would keep this.

Get another is my suggestion. They are ace. Friend uses my old PA as his chicksands 4X/dual bike and loves it too.


 
Posted : 18/07/2011 11:15 am