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I have to say it really amuses me that someone gets so upset that e bike riders are stealing their strava placings. * points and laughs*
If you stop looking at them as a sporting good and more of as a hobby item they make more sense.
Less maintenance then a jet ski.
Cheaper then a Porsche.
Don't need a motorbike licence and she won't mind as much.
Takes up less space then a boat.
More blingy and more dick swinging factor then a set of golf clubs.
They will make you a nice cup of tea as they massage £5k out of you for a £1200 bike with a golf caddy motor attached.
And best of all, after you've spent 45 mins fannying around in the car park with mode selection, and inexplicably skidding around then pumping your fork up and down 500 times...
I don't see where I was going with this.
I just hope golf becomes the new cycling again soon.
And best of all, after you’ve spent 45 mins fannying around in the car park with mode selection
One click on
Two clicks to get EMTB mode.
Off we go...... Maybe 3 seconds wasted (if I click reeeaally slow)
One click on
Two clicks to get EMTB mode.
Off we go…… Maybe 3 seconds wasted (if I click reeeaally slow)
no time needed at all as you can adjust on the move as you pedal away
I was totally against E-Bikes until yesterday when I had a go on one, what a revelation! It was a top spec Merida and even in economy mode it was amazing. It is making me re-evaluate my future bike plans!
I have to say it really amuses me that someone gets so upset that e bike riders are stealing their strava placings. * points and laughs*
Why does it amuse you ???? Genuinely interested. E-bikes have their own section, would it amuse you to log your rides in the running section ??
It amuses me that someone takes it so seriously that a ebike rider not declaring as an ebike upsets them. Really? Taking strava that seriously? Does it matter in any way? I ride for fun. anyone doing anything on an ebike makes no difference to my fun. someone putting something into strava makes no difference to my fun.
Is your ego really that fragile ?
E-bikes are fun. Why not enjoy them? Mrs Moses has a road e-bike, which lets her cycle farther than she could before. Faster, too. It's great for a hilly commute, it's good for days out.
Have a go, you might be surprised.
So are quad & mx bikes are “fun” - assisted with an engine or motor.
Riding mtbs (or any type of bike non assisted) for a long time, then come along e-bikes and piss all over your efforts. Strava is great to compete with yourself & others - Ebikes make a mockery of it!
I've been watching the eMTB channel on youtube a lot recently and they do look like a lot of fun. They've explored the workout aspect of them and its certainly possible to get just as good a workout as on a normal bike- you just go 2-3 times further and have 2-3 times more downhill fun. Also the stuff you can ride up is insane and they seem to do just as well on jumps drops- in fact better as you are effectively riding what was a downhill bike only a few years ago. I'm thinking about hiring one but I'm worried it'll put me off normal bikes.
It amuses me that someone takes it so seriously that a ebike rider not declaring as an ebike upsets them. Really? Taking strava that seriously? Does it matter in any way?
It's nor a case of taking strava "that seriously," simply that many people enjoy the leaderboards, and you take pleasure in seeing their enjoyment spoiled. Who are you to judge what other people do or don't enjoy ?? There's only one reason I can think of is that your a massive prick. There I said it, somebody had to, and if it gets me a ban so what.
"Fragile ego" I don't really have one, there's no way I can go faster than a bicycle with an engine, the same as no e-mtb is faster than my MX bikes.
I ride for fun.
So do I and part of that fun is being fastest, top ten etc,. on various Strava segments. Is it wrong for me to enjoy that just because you don't?
Well, it really is handbags stuff in this thread! Some people need to count to ten or go for a cold shower.
Anyway, first outing today. Fantastic. There is going to be a bit of re-learning required as it is a little different from acoustic riding, but as someone who swaps between single speed, fat bike, hardtail and fs trailbike, it's just another string to learn. I like learning, and I reckon there is always a positive feedback to every other bike from any progress made or insight developed.
The assist is amazing, but I still found myself working hard. Essentially the climbs were faster, easier, and more fun.
flybywire - with your user name?
Compete with yourself yes - but with others you don't know? Get upset when someone with an e bike beats you? I just don't get it and it amuses me someone takes strava that seriously.
Edit - taxi - really that angry and its that important to you? sorry if my amusement annoys you - and no I won't report the post.
Well I apologise for calling you a name tj At least the massive bit 😉
But the angry isn't about Strava, i don't get angry about that, I flag E-mtb rides that come on to the leaderboards , not because I'm angry about them, just because it's more fun for everyone (who cares) to have honest leader boards. I got miffed about why someone would enjoy seeing someone elses fun spoiled. I don't like football, but have nothing but support for those who do. I'd get equally cross if someone tried to spoil their fun, its just the way I am.
Some people need to count to ten or go for a cold shower.
Hmm... preferably a hot shower. I generally prefer my spit roast clean and trimmed.
Ebike fear is funnyAF. Take this utterly clueless idiot for example
you just can’t play with the trail, pump and make gaps in the same way.
Give them a keyboard and they roast themselves.
I just can’t play with the trail, pump and make gaps in the same way.
FTFY bro.
Is your ego really that fragile ?
Ha, somewhere in Canada Alanis Morissette just exploded
somewhere in Canada Alanis Morissette just exploded
still would tho
Regarding the Strava argument you could also ask why e-bikers would want to compete on the Strava leaderboards against regular bikes. Do they have fragile egos perhaps?
(For the record, I stopped using Strava a year ago so this doesn’t affect me personally)
There’s only one reason I can think of is that your a massive prick. There I said it, somebody had to, and if it gets me a ban so what.
Ha 😄
Dont ban him!
I wish I could afford one. Am well jel
Ban him - for the bad grammar? your / you're / yore / yaw?
Or should it be You have not is ?
Or maybe just remove the "a" " Your massive prick"?
Can't we all come together and agree that e-bikes should be banned off road?
And...... flounce!
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<div class="bbp-reply-content">Regarding the Strava argument you could also ask why e-bikers would want to compete on the Strava leaderboards against regular bikes. Do they have fragile egos perhaps?
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No, I think it's just a case that many don't realise they have an strava ebike setting and others just like to be arseholes, same as everyday life really.
Regarding the Strava argument you could also ask why e-bikers would want to compete on the Strava leaderboards against regular bikes. Do they have fragile egos perhaps?
Despite the passive agression in your question I'll actually answer it honestly from my point of view. I've used strava since its beginning and recored thousands of rides and still do (to record mileage more than anything these days) but in the last 3 years or so it's been set to upload everything privately. I rarely ever make my rides public. I don't upload Ebike rides in the ebike section because there are very few segments there, I can't compare my times to my own old times and the majority of Ebike riders on strava aren't very quick descenders. (this should change in time) If I've had a good day and know I was riding well/fast I'll look at the results. If I've had a PR on a steep enough trail where pedalling doesn't come into it I'll sometimes upload it. Same as I might do if I'd been riding one of my non-Ebikes. My Emtb is pretty much the same speed as my Enduro bike descending steep trails so I don't see I've cheated anybody riding a 16lb heavier bike I didn't use pedal assist on. Apart from being fresher at the start of the descent. Similar to if I'd been uplifted there.
It would help if the milkfloat option could be set as default. I sometimes forget to change the activity when uploading and have to do it later. Usually when some Strava Queen has a cry.
My first instance of an Ebike was 2 years ago at Marin, me and a friend were slogging up the fireroad when an uncouth oik came past claiming this was the only way to ride and when we caught up to him at the top and saw him smoking a massive herbal joint he became that years Audi driver !! and was instantly disliked and all like him!
Since then a two other friends one who has a bad back and another whos always had a poor heart have bought them and started riding again.. brilliant they are out and about. A third friend who clocked 5k miles last year and was always good for a 40 mile lakeland special has just bought one, obviously hes been called all the names under the sun about needing it, but since he does photography as well the ability to use it to get to places where carrying a load of gear as well would be an arse is beneficial. I have had a go and while its much fun doing climbs with little or no effort or setting speed cameras off (its been chipped) i also think its bloody dangerous. For one i know i would find myself using trail or turbo almost all the time meaning the need for a normally aspirated bike would go out the window. And secondly as a road user too home any car drivers will see a bike and think "oh i can make that " pull out and before you know it there s an ebike in the rear of the car , they have their place but not for me just yet, as i imagine trying to hike a bike and shoulder a 25kg beast up Helvellyn might be a struggle..
Geex
My Emtb is pretty much the same speed as my Enduro bike descending steep trails so I don’t see I’ve cheated anybody riding a 16lb heavier bike I didn’t use pedal assist on. Apart from being fresher at the start of the descent.
Wouldn't some say having all that weight low down enhance handling though?😏😁
Helvellyn might be a struggle..
Not a great example, you'd easily climb Keppel cove on an e-bike.
was nearly hit by a cretin doing about 30 on a chipped ebike walking back from the pub, this is not going to end well for any cyclist
Wouldn’t some say having all that weight low down enhance handling though?😏😁
Swings and roundabouts dear. Apparently if you're a weak whingebag who's never even ridden an Ebike in all that low down weight means "you just can’t play with the trail, pump and make gaps in the same way."
Other than the extra weight of the battery/motor they actually handle exactly like a non-ebike.
and that extra weight just means you have to pre-load more to overcome it when lifting the wheels. You can still hop, jump, pump, manual, nollie, scrub, whip, change direction in the air or just supertweak the **** out of them. but... Shhhhhhhh.... don't tell anyone.
Makes going uphill fun. Stealth MX bikes are even more fun, don't deny yourself!
Shhhhhhhhh...
GW has an ebike and he has all the mad skilz...
@nobeerinthefridge Kepple maybe but further up there aint no-one riding that ..still you must get my point that some of the best rides involve a shoulder and not many people are going to want to hump a 50lb dead weight are they
Aye, I love a hike a bike, but in the grand scheme of things, we're not even a small percentage of Mtbers.
Lots of my MTB mates wouldnt ever contemplate taking their bike somewhere that involves pushing or carrying.
Then they are simply missing out 😉
Then they are simply missing ou
Depends where you live though. I imagine in Wales/Scotland there's plenty of Hike a Bike locations, but in West Berks i can't think of anywhere i cannot realistically ride to that i'd actually want to reach. Sure we've had the odd moment when you get off and push as your trail has disappeared in a random forest, but apart from that, why would you ?
You can still hike a bike with them as most have the powered walk function now. As long as the trail is wide enough to have the bike along side and you can lift the front wheel. you will get over most obstacles. Throwing them over gates and high styles is less fun, and anywhere that is so steep that you need to strap bikes to backs to use both hands to climb up would be downright uncomfortable , but there’s not many like that in the uk.
Big group of E-bikes in Swinley yesterday, we ended up doing a chunk of the red at roughly the same time as they would stop and wait for each other after each section and I was on a short leash. You would struggle to find a more polite / respectful group of MTBers on the occasions they needed to pass me, given my limited interactions with them.
Most ebikers I have encountered seem to remember what it was like to be the guy being passed on the trail so give you plenty of time to pick a suitable passing spot. Perhaps I've just been lucky so far.
You can still hike a bike with them as most have the powered walk function now
I don't think of pushing as hike a bike, hike a bike is carrying your bike, nothing to do with needing hands to climb. Think the steps on Dollywaggon pike, it's easier to carry your bike than it is to push it. That's when the extra weight of an e-bike would be an arse.
It's not even due to the levels of tech, I tend to just prefer carring my bike when it gets seriously steep and loose underfoot. Kinda questions the need for push assist, anything that's smooth enough to have to push up, surely you could pedal on an e-bike?.
So in short
ebikes are BAD because they make pedalling up hills EASIER.
Ebikes are BAD because they make carrying up hills HARDER
Is that about right 😂👍
Geex- so in your opinion, it’s not passive aggressive to suggest that people have “fragile egos” if they’re frustrated that e-bikes are making the Strava leaderboards pointless, but it IS passive aggressive for me to challenge that by making the opposite argument? 🤔
Dollywaggon pike.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Dollywaggon+pike
In the Lakes then... Only 250+ miles from me 🙂
ebikes are BAD because they make pedalling up hills EASIER.
Ebikes are BAD because they make carrying up hills HARDER
No, it's because people are having fun that they haven't earned. The moral balance of the universe is thrown off, baby kittens have died for less.