Forum menu
Darkside- Which one...
 

[Closed] Darkside- Which one(s)?

 hora
Posts: 0
Free Member
Topic starter
 
[#2429300]

Must be comfy i.e. carbon or good quality steel (infact I like the idea of steel).

Ideas? I'd probably wangle a cycle to work scheme on a 58cm and the best spec possible.

Of course PlanetX however I read a review that if your big/heavy the front has abit of flex.


 
Posted : 02/02/2011 4:48 pm
Posts: 30656
Free Member
 

You buying new Hora? If so, why not give the Wiggle 30 day test ride a go?

...and then when you realise road riding is not for you and too hard you can just give the bike back and not lose any cash 😉


 
Posted : 02/02/2011 4:50 pm
 hora
Posts: 0
Free Member
Topic starter
 

Im going to stick at it. Not because I like it (its not exactly fun is it) but because it offers a ride/fitness out when mountain biking on the weekend isnt an option.


 
Posted : 02/02/2011 4:57 pm
Posts: 340
Full Member
 

I have been keeping an eye on this too. My employers only deal with Halfords and it seems fortunate that Boardman do have a very good reputation on the roadie front. Hopefully the 2011 range will be out by April. Pro Carbon for me if I am allowed to 'top up' my allowance.

I already have a road bike but it time to upgrade components or bike.


 
Posted : 02/02/2011 7:47 pm
Posts: 538
Free Member
 

Genesis Croix de Fer, you can combine on and off road rides


 
Posted : 02/02/2011 7:50 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Scott CR1 with 105 on.


 
Posted : 02/02/2011 7:58 pm
Posts: 71
Free Member
 

IMO cross bikes are the worst of both worlds, and not a patch on a proper road bike. YMMV.

There's some awesome looking frames on eBay, throw one of those together on the cheap.


 
Posted : 02/02/2011 8:07 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

specialized roubaix ... end of thread ;O)

your welcome


 
Posted : 02/02/2011 9:35 pm
Posts: 2273
Full Member
 

You can get other bikes apart from Boardman through Halfords C2W scheme.


 
Posted : 02/02/2011 11:16 pm
Posts: 5
Free Member
 

Mark, Ribble, Spesh & Trek are all good on the C2W scheme.


 
Posted : 02/02/2011 11:17 pm
Posts: 340
Full Member
 

You can indeed get other bikes on the Halfords scheme. Although I am not naturally drawn to them the Boardman does seem a good buy and well rated.


 
Posted : 02/02/2011 11:39 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

If you are serious about it, then FFS stop calling it "The Darkside".. 😐


 
Posted : 03/02/2011 12:18 am
Posts: 8755
Full Member
 

Just buy a Trek Madone, Lance rides one so they must be the best... :p


 
Posted : 03/02/2011 9:07 am
 hora
Posts: 0
Free Member
Topic starter
 

If I was riding a road bike in the Peaks, Lakes or even Calderdale it'd be road riding....as I'd be mainly riding from my door it'll be called the dreaded-darkside

Just buy a Trek Madone

Have you seen the poverty-spec's attached to a brand name!


 
Posted : 03/02/2011 9:08 am
Posts: 16175
Free Member
 

"Im going to stick at it. Not because I like it (its not exactly fun is it) but because it offers a ride/fitness out when mountain biking on the weekend isnt an option."

Havent you got a you child/children? A cheaper option is to buy a turbo trainer, some hate it, but with a 10 month old son I find it a good way of grabbing an hour here or there when he is asleep etc. Since I started using mine 2 months ago my finest has come on big time...from zero!


 
Posted : 03/02/2011 9:11 am
 hora
Posts: 0
Free Member
Topic starter
 

Not a chance. I am the type that needs to be outside roaming free/playing out 😆 I hate the gym for the same reason (with a passion).

Ideal for me would be a steel frame- Italian, well made yet subtle - Columbus etc and still reasonably light.

Something to look at and smile when its just sat there as well 🙂


 
Posted : 03/02/2011 9:14 am
Posts: 2006
Free Member
 

there was a thread on here where a lot of heavier owners of Planet X SL's totally disagreed with the flexy description of the frame. This included me. Andre Greipel (the only large rider with the power to trouble the frame) must have been grumpy that day.

Also the new nanolight frames are dropping in price so may be an option


 
Posted : 03/02/2011 9:30 am
Posts: 11468
Full Member
 

Ideal for me would be a steel frame- Italian, well made yet subtle - Columbus etc and still reasonably light.

You clearly need a Pegoretti, along with all the other wannabe Fausto Coppis - build it up with Campag Super Record, shave yer legs, get yourself a nice little roadie cap and some obscure Mediteranean riding duds and you're ready for full-on immersion in the Lato Oscuro. Give it six months and you can buy a cross bike as well along with some nice stilettos and a blonde wig 😉


 
Posted : 03/02/2011 9:39 am
 hora
Posts: 0
Free Member
Topic starter
 

Back in 2002 I remember a nice lass getting onto the train in Surrey with a Pegoretti. It was lovely, subtle..sublime. Still remember it today.


 
Posted : 03/02/2011 10:06 am
Posts: 1711
Free Member
 

Get yourself down to a few shops and see if they can hook you up with something second hand which will fit you. There are usually a few people who have built up a new race bike and looking at flogging their old bike/winter bike/3rd spare bike. etc.


 
Posted : 03/02/2011 10:59 am
Posts: 5938
Free Member
 

price range?


 
Posted : 03/02/2011 11:05 am
 hora
Posts: 0
Free Member
Topic starter
 

Probably upto £1200 so that rules out a Pegoretti 😆


 
Posted : 03/02/2011 11:09 am
Posts: 1
Free Member
 

I love my trek 5000, carbon loveliness 🙂 Road riding is fun when you get fit/into it.


 
Posted : 03/02/2011 11:16 am
Posts: 5938
Free Member
 

Must be comfy i.e. carbon or good quality steel (infact I like the idea of steel).

Ideal for me would be a steel frame- Italian, well made yet subtle - Columbus etc and still reasonably light.

upto £1200

Get on ebay and start trawling through the flotsum, you won't get anything with a decent spec new for that money...


 
Posted : 03/02/2011 11:20 am
Posts: 12088
Full Member
 

Not because I like it (its not exactly fun is it) but because it offers a ride/fitness out when mountain biking on the weekend isnt an option

Why wouldn't you like it? Granted, riding in a high-traffic area isn't much fun, but a 5hr ride along quiet country roads on a warm spring day is pretty much perfect, to my mind at least..


 
Posted : 03/02/2011 11:23 am
 hora
Posts: 0
Free Member
Topic starter
 

mogrim- agree, read my earlier addition..


 
Posted : 03/02/2011 11:26 am
Posts: 12088
Full Member
 

Oops, bit of a post reading fail there!


 
Posted : 03/02/2011 11:31 am
 hora
Posts: 0
Free Member
Topic starter
 

I still remember day dreaming....drifting off whilst riding in my youth 😀


 
Posted : 03/02/2011 11:32 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Ideal for me would be a steel frame- Italian, well made yet subtle - Columbus etc and still reasonably light.

Sound like you need to find something like this...

[url= http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1005/5184410469_15fc11ffcd.jp g" target="_blank">http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1005/5184410469_15fc11ffcd.jp g"/> [/img][/url]
[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/32746168@N08/5184410469/ ]DSCF4083[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/32746168@N08/ ]ten_sim[/url], on Flickr

Picked it up for £450 off these here classifieds, lovely lovely bike! 🙂 Very similar looking to a Cinelli Supercorsa actually:

[img] [/img]


 
Posted : 03/02/2011 11:39 am
 hora
Posts: 0
Free Member
Topic starter
 

Very nice. I like that derosa 🙂


 
Posted : 03/02/2011 11:47 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 


upto £1200

Get on ebay and start trawling through the flotsum, you won't get anything with a decent spec new for that money...

Really? My Tarmac with 105 was about £1200 and it doesn't seem to get left behind at any races/sportives/group rides that I've done on it?

I guess it depends on how much of a kick you get out of reading the words on your rear mech...


 
Posted : 03/02/2011 12:01 pm
Posts: 24440
Full Member
 

got a 58cm 853 lemond sat in the garage doing nowt
[url= http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4133/5093933599_a971cf9d94_z.jp g" target="_blank">http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4133/5093933599_a971cf9d94_z.jp g"/> [/img][/url]
[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/rocketdog/5093933599/ ]Lemond Zurich 853 II[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/rocketdog/ ]rOcKeTdOgUk[/url], on Flickr


 
Posted : 03/02/2011 12:08 pm
Posts: 5938
Free Member
 

ianpv, sorry but i don't class 105 as good spec, and hora has already mentioned in this thread that he doesn't want a big brand underspecced, what wheels did it / does it have? Is it a carbon frame? what year?


 
Posted : 03/02/2011 12:11 pm
Posts: 1442
Free Member
 

Mark. do not get anything with a quill stem or lugged construction.


 
Posted : 03/02/2011 12:14 pm
 hora
Posts: 0
Free Member
Topic starter
 

YGM


 
Posted : 03/02/2011 12:14 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

do not get anything with a quill stem or lugged construction.

Why not? Polished chrome lugs are lovely 🙂


 
Posted : 03/02/2011 12:18 pm
Posts: 71
Free Member
 

Really? My Tarmac with 105 was about £1200 and it doesn't seem to get left behind at any races/sportives/group rides that I've done on it?

Theyre more than that now, although there are probably deals around.

ianpv, sorry but i don't class 105 as good spec

That's just snobbery and makes you sound like a tool. It's not the best, but its not bad. I don't think anyone is going to be a sudden convert because they bought Ultegra, or is that too cheap and it's Di2 or nothing?!


 
Posted : 03/02/2011 12:57 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

the new 105 looks lush 😉


 
Posted : 03/02/2011 1:00 pm
Posts: 5938
Free Member
 

That's just snobbery and makes you sound like a tool. It's not the best, but its not bad. I don't think anyone is going to be a sudden convert because they bought Ultegra, or is that too cheap and it's Di2 or nothing?!

Thats strange, cause what do I ride on the road? a Specialized allez with, wait for it, shimano 105 (upgraded some bits to Ultegra SL)

Its the equivalent of LX really, isn't it, and the chainsets especially are very heavy, and at the end of the day I'm just going on what Hora wants!

New bike on the way though, Campag chorus equipped, Ill be keeping the specialized for winter duties.


 
Posted : 03/02/2011 1:07 pm
Posts: 71
Free Member
 

That's fairly irrelevant, there's nothing wrong with 105, and it's a reasonable group to expect on a £1200 carbon bike. You wouldn't expect XT on a £1200 MTB.


 
Posted : 03/02/2011 1:11 pm
 hora
Posts: 0
Free Member
Topic starter
 

On the SRAM groupsets- whats a decent one to plum for?

(thinking IF I went for a Planetx)


 
Posted : 03/02/2011 1:14 pm
Posts: 5938
Free Member
 

there's nothing wrong with 105

It's heavy, which on a road bike is not great.

I agree that it would be reasonable to expect it on a £1200 bike, but the other components will suffer as a result of speccing a 105 grouppo , leading to a very heavy bike. My point being much better to buy second hand.


 
Posted : 03/02/2011 1:18 pm
Posts: 5938
Free Member
 

hora, if you can go to 1199 i'd bite their hands off for this:
[url= http://www.planet-x-bikes.co.uk/i/q/CBPXSLPR/sl-pro-carbon-sram-red ]linky[/url]


 
Posted : 03/02/2011 1:19 pm
Posts: 3546
Free Member
 

Hora - Rival is fine. Planet X were doing a Sram Red full bike a while ago for something daft like £999 (my mate was tempted). On inspection if was just shifters and rear mech or something daft with low rent brakes etc.

Cycling Plus just did a review of Sram Apex (basically Rival with a long rear cage mech), Shim 105 and Campag Centaur and they came out in favour of Sram because you could stick a 32t rear cassette on it. 105 was 500g heavier but better quality they reckoned.

If you want cheaper with mudguard clearance Scott Speedster (S65 I think) looks canny. Alloy though.

Oh, and 14st 6'3" of me doesn't seem to find the PX carbon flexy....


 
Posted : 03/02/2011 1:32 pm
 hora
Posts: 0
Free Member
Topic starter
 

Hora - Rival is fine. Planet X were doing a Sram Red full bike a while ago for something daft like £999 (my mate was tempted). On inspection if was just shifters and rear mech or something daft with low rent brakes etc.

Hmmm The above Red is Apex chainset and Planetx's own wheels.


 
Posted : 03/02/2011 1:37 pm
Page 1 / 2