Definitely happens on cars. Those aftermarket alloy caps can seize on, just stick with plastic. Seems less likely on a MTB (less road salt, more frequent removal) but still something to be wary of.
This was my understanding - something about galvanic reaction between aluminium cap, brass valve stem and road salt?
ThoseUltimate Schrader Valves - Miles Wide Industriesvalves look great - some nice innovations in there. This is the kind of $hit the industry should be doing, evolving good design with neat features. I love the 4mm Hex in the bottom so you can easily stop it spinning as you tighten it up.
Is that... is that $35 per valve?!
Thankfully looks like it's for 2x
I'm generally ok with presta as it's trivial to swap valve cores, but prompted by this thread I did some digging and there are more alternatives out there than I had realised (apart form the Clik valves, and Project 76/Fillmore that I was already aware of). These include (in no particular order) Schrader adapters from Joe's No Flats, Muc Off ball valves, Milkit valves, Bontrager High Flow Valve Adapters, and Stan's Tubeless Exo-Core Valves. Many of these are appealing on first glance, but most suffer from one drawback or another, sometimes general cost, or sometimes that you can't use thread-on style pump heads that you would carry for reinflating in an emergency. I like the look of the Schrader adapters though, as you get most of the benefits of Schrader valves, but in the worst case scenario you can remove the adapter to add sealant or stick in a presta valve (easier to carry in a tool pack).
Add good old Nutrak to your list. £15/pair and probably as good as anything fancy
I have been looking into Clik Valves and like the idea of easy top ups, less faff with caps/nuts and better reliability. Just clik and go...
I'm trying to work out the best way to do it, as we've got loads of bikes and pumps so I want to stay as compatible as possible without causing a mess.
The adaptor looks really slim - can anyone provide the diameter, or confirm if it'll fit in a OneUp EDC pump (CO2 cartridge size)?
If if does fit, I'd probably want to start with two adaptor sets - one adaptor to leave in a pump, and one to pack for the trail, and valves for my 2 main bikes.
I posted on here and got a bollocking as I sell them. They are fab imo!
Interesting. Have you got parts in stock?
drop me a message and ill see what i can do to help
I want to stay as compatible as possible without causing a mess.
I think it might be to get the SKS Clik track pump which doesn’t look dear but nothing seems in stock for a bit?
The 90 degree adapter is a full replacement for a normal track pump head. As I've got 2 track pumps, I just converted one.
I've only used it once to after replacing the inserts and refreshing sealant, (2 bikes) but it clicked on and off perfectly and seemed to have decent air flow.
The adaptor looks really slim - can anyone provide the diameter, or confirm if it'll fit in a OneUp EDC pump (CO2 cartridge size)?
All the info says you don't need an adaptor except for screw on pumps...but gauges don't work. I'd be keen to give them a try if they didn't need an adaptor for a gauge to work.
We've got 11 bikes in the family, with a mix of tubeless, TPU non removeable and Schrader valves. We then have track pumps, trail/pack pumps and pressure gauges with a mix of press and screw!
So, I'm already in a mess!
An adaptor at home for the track pump and gauge would probably do, as 90% of my pumping is on my best 2 bikes. I just need to see how my mini pumps would work. I think my OneUp would be OK but the Apogee mini for my road pack is a (fairly fiddly) screw on.
I think it might be to get the SKS Clik track pump which doesn’t look dear but nothing seems in stock for a bit?
SKS appear to be licencing the same valve. There are quite a few retailers listing the pump head / core kit on line already - Tredz, Fawkes, and more, showing stock.
I'm going to try 2 bikes worth and will report back.
A mate gave me a pair of these today to try. (a not for resale test kit)
Some observations on them.
Pumping them up with my standard push on presta head pump worked but the pressure gauge was showing double the pressure that was in the tyre.
With the supplied adaptor it was reading accurately.
One of the valves refused to seal into the valve stem and leaked from the threads between the two parts.
Tried it in another valve and it wouldn't screw all the way in.
Both of the above valves work fine with normal presta valves fitted.
I removed them and re fitted standard presta's.
Just didn't see the point in them TBH seem to create more problems than they solve.
Anyone spotted a bulk pack of cores? I'd like to try them but for simplicity change everything over.
I'm playing with them and they solve a good few of my frustrations with Presta, while introducing others.
They work with push on pumps, but since the valve isn't actuated the pressure reading is off without an adaptor.
They work with push on pumps with no adaptors.
The adaptor fits inside a OneUp EDC pump. But it does not fit into the pump so that's a futile exercise!
The adaptor screws into my Lezyne pump hoses (Schrader side) so I can use them again without risk of unscrewing valve cores.
They don't work with my Topeak digital gauge, with or without an adaptor.
To convert my whole family fleet I'd need 10 sets (£60), at least two adaptors and 2-3 pump heads so it adds up! Best part of £100!
Money and compatibility aside I'd be happy if everything was swapped over.
For now I'll stick with two bikes worth and see...
The adaptor screws into my Lezyne pump hoses (Schrader side) so I can use them again without risk of unscrewing valve cores.
As above Lezyne are bringing out a flip chuck for Clik valves (which isn’t really a flip chuck as it’s one sided, but you know what I mean). I assume that would work with eg a Check Drive to give accurate pressures?
Indeed. I hope the hose is available as a retro fit for my now mothballed Lezyne mini pumps. I've got HV and HP. Hoses are good. Unscrewing is not.
Not seen pictures of a non-floor-pump flip chuck unfortunately (also have a mothballed Lezyne mini pump, mothballed for the same reason).
Saw something suggesting Wolftooth were in too, but not seen anything yet. I think I need Schwalbe to bring out some Clik valve tubes…
I believe there’s a bigger problem, regarding all the different standards for other inflatable devices: sup’s, airbeds, pillows, tents, etc.
if schwalbe could only manufacture adapters to make its clik valves compatible with this myriad of accessories.
or maybe there’s an opening for all the budding 3-d printers…
one pump to rule them all!
As far as I can see from reading around the relatively few reviews I can find on the internet they don’t seem to solve the problem of clogging with sealant. I’d like to see some longer term reviews that address this - otherwise I’ll stick with presta as valve cores are easy and cheap to replace.
The adaptor looks really slim - can anyone provide the diameter, or confirm if it'll fit in a OneUp EDC pump (CO2 cartridge size)?
I think the adapter has a Schrader thread on it (so doesn't work with push-fit Presta pumps, which push directly onto the valve but then don't give you an accurate pressure).
Valves/adapter on back order 'til Jun here.
Valves/adapter on back order 'til Jun here
And in mid-July, LBS still can't seem to get any and stock limited. Anyone else having more luck?
Available?
My son uses these (works for Halfords, so got them free off Schhwalbe). Said having to use an adapter is a bit of a pain. Recently went to Morzine and fitted presta cores, cos he couldn't guarantee he'd have an adapter when needed.
He says Muc-Off valves are better with the big bore.
Never seen the need for different valves myself. Except the minor problem of a bent one.. just bend it straight again. Clogged valve is probably the one issue I've never had with tubeless.
If it’s all the same I’d rather not make Jeff Bezos any richer than he already is, unless it’s unavoidable.
Yeah £20 would buy him another one of those weddings I reckon 😆
Every little helps
Tredz are showing the kit with the conversation adapter in stock.
>Said having to use an adapter is a bit of a pain.
I have them on 5 bikes now, one of which has Odyssey OPTIS on there so 4 cores in total on that bike.
All of my pumps work without an adaptor, including my OneUp and Topeak Mountain Morph. Just push on and pump up. I have a spare presta core inside my OneUp but not needed it yet.
At home I converted a track pump with the Clik head as all the main bikes are on Clik. Getting ready for a family ride is a bit less faff now. Clik, pump, on each bike. No more caps, fiddly threads, pump levers etc.
I do use the adaptor on my cordless pump that has a Schrader threaded hose. Screw on, clik, press pump. Done.
Great system, very much sold on it. Hoping it gets wider adoption!
Bought some last week from Tredz.
I have stock
Bikerevivesheffield.co.uk
How are folks getting on with these?
I got a set to play with as the positive click seems like it would be good for my elderly mother who struggles judging how far on to push a presta pump. My first attempt to inflate using the adaptor on my mini pump sheared the core meaning I had to get the tire off to fit a new stem. It was a pump with a hose, so I was pretty shocked when it snapped. Has rather knocked my enthusiasm!
I love mine, on all our bikes, using with a truflo electric pump also with no issues
My first attempt to inflate using the adaptor on my mini pump sheared the core meaning I had to get the tire off to fit a new stem.
Have you got any pics?
I got the valve adaptors for my Peaty's x Chris King valves, and a pump head for my track pump.
Easy to fit, easy to use, and they seem to lose hardly any air over time compared to the original valve set up (nothing else has changed, no extra sealant added)
I think the link below should work. That shows the coloured thread of the click core inside the black stem. The thing sticking out is the click valve "plunger" so the valve still held air.
Looking at the replacement, the valve looks like it should thread another millimetre or so into the stem which would give it more support. But there is no way I can get it to thread in any further!
https://1drv.ms/i/c/308725e4c3145711/IQCS9zeiwlyrRZI6sEjjXwc3AcHDsiaMcIszPQQj04s8sf8
- Your link doesn't work unless you have OneDrive
- Clikvalves are super strong so I'm at a loss how you broke one
Another alternative that works without an adapter