Tried a few, never wanted to fork out for hopes, eventually did, save yourself some hassle, go root one and get some f20s.
I should add, syntace have been making quality gear for a time. Best tri bars ever, maybe not write them off if they suit.
Oh no, now I've seen those Syntace pedals I'm going to have to get a set..
I've not bought many flat pedals over the years, but the Wellgo B54s I bought for several bikes in 2008 have really held up well over time.
A shin protector to reduce bramble damage is something I'd go for....
Re-Vaults and rider weight, i'm about 74kg (11 stone 10 in old money) and i've had no problems with them even after winter use and covering about 1000 miles. I think I'll keep and service them as and when as they hold a bit of sentimental value to me now (gift from my Nan who's no longer with us) but if I didn't have them I think i'd buy something else.
Re - Shin protector, depending on how they look I think it could be a good idea. I'm sure they would look better than this (link to a pic after they dug in, I didn't want to include it in the post in case people don't want to see that kind of thing) 
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Ooof nice.
The shin protector interests me.
Had a pair of Burgtec Mk3 for years and really really like them. Unfortunately I've snapped the axle twice and can't source a replacement (Burgtec's website has been showing 'Out of Stock' for ages.
Have also got a pair Point One podium pedals as they are quite low profile so useful with shorter cranks on a bike with low BB. Got the rebuild kit/spare but they seem to be lasting ok. Sourcing spares in the future might be an issue as they are now made by Gamut and I don't think the bearings etc are backwards compatible
Hope F20s are the preferred choice at the moment with the longer hollow pins at the front & rear to improve grip. Well built and easy reliable source of spares.
What about back of the calf protection? This was done by some Nukeproof electrons, went and bought some five Ten's after this.
Just bought some Gamut Podiums, so far they feel great, build quality is excellent and weigh 280g on my accurate scales.
Will feed back once I've done some more riding on them.
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Ming the Merciless got it right. Money no object there is only Syntace Titan 9 pedals.
Yeah. After a year mine spin a bit too freely, but the bodies are the toughest pedals I've had (and the lightest).
Nanos lasted me okay but got quite dented, and I've known loads of people swear by Vaults too.
I've had good reliability from Superstar but the bushes do develop a bit of play. Regreasing pretty much removes the play though.
Will be Hope next time though.
The first pair of Nano's that I bought were indestructible. They were four years old when my DH bike was nicked. They'd been used on a trail bike and ridden in sone filthy conditions. All four bikes they were on had low BB's so plenty of pedal strikes and nowt. The second pair didn't last so well; three pins were ripped out on one side in a crash.
Tried Spank Spikes but they were shite. They seized at the slightest hint of a wet rude. The in board bearing bulge was annoying too.
Currently in Vaults which feel great and grip well. Not had them long enough to comment on their longevity. Both sea have shrugged off a fair few pedal strikes.
+1 for vaults
Those podiums look ideal from a cost/weight point of view. Hovering over the buy button...
+1 vaults
At 78kg both pairs have been fine for over a year, but I am tempted by the the podiums.
Fifty fifty look quite good but hard to get hold of
I was ready to buy a set of podiums til I walked into my lbs and there was a set being brought back a week after being sold for warranty. Left one had 1/2 inch of lateral movement, despite axle nut being tight, right one bearings were as rough as a badgers.
I bought burgtecs instead, thankfully.
@nobeer
Were they the new ones, by Gamut, or the old Point One versions? I had the latter, and they weren't great in terms of durability, but I've just seen the Gamut ones are redesigned.
I've just got at least four years out of a pair of twenty6 prerunners. Very light and have taken lots of abuse. Emailed them though and can't get any rebuild kits so they are destined for the bin now.
Mikey, the new gamut ones, was 2 weeks back.
Another vote for Shimano Saints from me. I'd buy another pair tomorrow 🙂
Tried Spank Spikes but they were shite. They seized at the slightest hint of a wet rude. The in board bearing bulge was annoying too.
My Spikes were great after one year of wet weather abuse. They don't spin freely - they aren't meant to. The stiffer rotation is for dirt jumpers and downhillers.
In the past I've had DMR V8's, V12's & Vaults. I now use Pedaling Inovations 'Catalyst' (James Wilson / bikejames.com) which I'm getting used to now: massive platform with different foot position. Could do with more grip (might try longer pins this summer) & had to lower my seatpost to compensate for the more forward foot position. Definitely feel more solid downhill & more power uphill but here's a review:
[url= http://www.pinkbike.com/news/pedaling-innovations-catalyst-pedal-review-2016.html ]Pinkbike review of Catalyst pedal[/url]
I don't get the love for saints. I have a set on one of my bikes. They are OK but compared to the better options out there they are too heavy, the platform is on the small size, the Q factor is a bit much and I found the bearings have a tendency to creak. Once again the Syntace pedals are on another level in comparison.
Boomslangs here - they've lasted longer than the Vaults I had previously, 18 months in and well bashed up cosmetically but functionally perfect with just a decrease.
Worst I've used was a set of HT AE01 that developed play in a couple of rides then bent an axle inside a month. I'm only 75kg so not even a buffer. They went back sharpish......
Crank brothers 50/50 on two of my bikes , saints on another both spot on.
Seems a right minefield this. Fancied the syntace Titans but apparently they fall apart, the Gamut Podiums fall apart, magnesium pedals are too soft, HT AE01s etc bearing design is crap, straitlines fall apart, race face atlas's come off the axles...it seems impossible to get thin and light pedals no matter what the cost. I need to replace my Ti Springs (HT AE01s) as the any t of play in the bushings is ridiculous. Surely there must be something out there sub 300g that doesn't fall to bits...
I've some blue Burgtec mk4s (ti axle) that need a good home if they're any use
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Race Face Chester? Got some, work as well as my Saints with much less weight.
Thanks for the offer but blue pedals aren't going to work on my red and black bike! Would love some burgtec a if they were lighter though.
What's blue?
The blue burgtecs that the poster above you offered?! 😆
Ah, skimmed, sorry.
Must pay attention!
My Spikes were great after one year of wet weather abuse. They don't spin freely - they aren't meant to. The stiffer rotation is for dirt jumpers and downhillers.
I know they're not supposed to spin freely, but they'd sieze solid after a wet ride.
Gamut podiums look amazing!
ive got the hopes. Had a few years of abuse and ive grooved channels in them from rock striked / worn the colour off them abd smacked them on allsorts. they still work fine with no servicing!
however they arnt as grippy as most others. With 5:10s this isnt an issue but it is with my new AM7's
they dont ride as nice as the superstar ones imo.
The saints are nice too but not that nice.
Fancied the syntace Titans but apparently they fall apart,
Ashy,
I'm running them on two bikes.
The big bearing and its seal were the weak point that gave me a few problems with crap getting in on the first set. Eventually lead to big bearing failing.
When I replaced the bearings and seals at about 1 year, I rebuilt with marine grease and periodically use the end-cap as a grease gun to purge more marine grease through the axle and bearings. It works a treat. Negligible play in the replacement bearings since (about 18 months since rebuild).
Since bought another set of Titans for another bike and adopted the same regime from new. Zero problems thus far. 😀
Afternoon All
Gamut UK here, we've been following this thread with interest and thought it worth chipping in a few of the things that have been posted about the new Podiums. (Apologies in advance for length)
I was ready to buy a set of podiums til I walked into my lbs and there was a set being brought back a week after being sold for warranty. Left one had 1/2 inch of lateral movement, despite axle nut being tight, right one bearings were as rough as a badgers.
We have to hold our hands up to this, due to a miscommunication at the factory a few of the initial batch were incorrectly assembled and sent out with less than the required 3 outboard bearings. Frustratingly when turned in the hand they felt fine and so were able to pass QC checks but when actually ridden they developed play almost immediately as the end of the axle wasn't fully supported.
So far we've had 7 pairs worldwide identified with this issue and all the pedals we've had reported have been replaced quickly and FOC.
Were they the new ones, by Gamut, or the old Point One versions? I had the latter, and they weren't great in terms of durability, but I've just seen the Gamut ones are redesigned.
The Gamut versions may look similar but in reality they don't share a single component with the old Point 1 versions. Everything's been tweaked.
If you fancy giving the podiums a go drop your LBS a ring and ask them to contact Madison for a loaner pair to try.
If you have any other questions about them feel free to ask on here, just be aware that we may have to go back to the two guys who run the show over in California for some answers and it's 5AM over there right now so bear with us.
If you fancy giving the podiums a go drop your LBS a ring and ask them to contact Madison for a loaner pair to try.cant beat that.........a supplier/manufacturer willing to do that.
top marks gammut
@gamutuk - how do the new versions differ form the old in terms of bearing size?
I had the old ones, and the 3 bearings in the end were so ridiculusly small that they literally turned to dust after a short period of use, and the races were impossible to extract afterwards.
New ones have a similar design with three small bearings - and to my eye, there doesn't seem to be much more space in there for larger bearings - how do the sizes compare?
No worries, pedal shape is a massively personal thing and we appreciate that the Podiums are hardly a 'budget' item so it's understandable that some people will want to try them first.
Note that Gamut isn't a huge outfit so we only have a few demo sets, if this gets super popular after us posting it on here there may be a bit of a wait whilst we get them back from the current holder.
EDIT: honorablegeorge, we know that the bearing arrangement has changed and that we've had very few issues with the Gamut ones so far, but we never dealt with the the Point 1 versions so for the exact technical details of what's changed I'm going to have to wait for Gamut HQ to wake up, I'll post here when we have a full response.
Ashy - MemberHT AE01s etc bearing design is crap
It is, but you can just discard the bearing entirely, and replace it with a wee stack of washers of the right height. The bearing and spring that they use as standard must make for easier first assembly but it's useless in the wild.
This doesn't fix bushing play obviously- unless the play is coming from a lack of control on the axle.
I've got a set that I'm running to death, might need to investigate replacement bushings.
The bushings are goosed. The tool costs £100. It's the bushings that have died. As you predicted they would when I was asking about buying them!!
@Ashy, I bet you can bodge them out... Might have a go at mine next time I'm bored.
