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Just been doing the monthly finance check and got disturbed by the sound of digging. My neighbours are getting a new conservatory built. They've just bought a brand new vectra this year and they only extentended their house 2 years ago.
She doesn't work now and hasn't for past 5 years or so and he has cut his hours to part time. Apparantly they are better off doing it like as they get more time with the family and also more benefits. They have more than us and there is 2 of us working full time!

How can a family of 2 adults and 3 kids be better off then just 2 adults?
Makes my blood boil 😈


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 9:15 am
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Well I'm pretty sure you can't buy new cars and conservatories while legitimately claiming benefits. They must have money salted away or have come good on an inheritance or something.


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 9:20 am
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He could have the car on the Mobility scheme. I wonder how much that scheme costs the Government annually.

So, smoke alot of fags and eat fatty food and you too one day could be given the keys to a shiny new car.


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 9:23 am
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So, have three kids, get the missus to stop working and drop to part-time?


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 9:24 am
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Why do you think people of a certain ethnic background have such large families, drive a taxi and manage to live in quite big houses (for their taxi income)?

I used to wonder this (looking at the property prices) ..until you do the maths.


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 9:26 am
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certain ethnic background

Those damn Scotch!


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 9:28 am
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Hora, you're such a bitch.

As samuri said, or they're dealing drugs, or cornered some market on ebay.
You can't afford a new car, or a new conservatory, on benefits.


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 9:28 am
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Dont even get me started on the mobility/DLA scheme! A family member is on this his first car was a Focus now its a Volvo - a new car every 2 years, free services, all you have to pay for is fuel and the person on it doesn't even drive it! I have to bite my lip every time i see him and he starts boasting about it - grrr!


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 9:30 am
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get the missus to stop working and drop to part-time?

I'm a girl and no lesbian tendencies i assure you 🙂


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 9:33 am
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Dont even get me started on the mobility/DLA scheme! A family member is on this his first car was a Focus now its a Volvo - a new car every 2 years, free services, all you have to pay for is fuel and the person on it doesn't even drive it! I have to bite my lip every time i see him and he starts boasting about it - grrr!

You forgot the insurance. Thats paid for as well.

Like I said, get those 20-40 a day ciggies smoked.


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 9:35 am
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I'm a girl and no lesbian tendencies i assure you

Even better! You get to sit at home watching Jeremy Kyle while your bloke works part-time.


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 9:37 am
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just kill them and put them under the conservatory.


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 9:39 am
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Is there a home improvement grant available for that though tails?


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 9:41 am
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WTF? Is this the bike forum or the Daily Mail?

There could be many reasons, who are you to judge? Be happy with your lot and stop being jealous of your neighbours. As for Hora...

APF


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 9:44 am
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Enough of my ranting, im off to blast my stereo above the digger noise and get some sun - happy days 8)


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 9:46 am
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I live in Manchester, one of the highest sickness benefit (it is actually) areas in the country.

So what if I'm cynical? Better that than a lettuce-Liberal 😉


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 9:46 am
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YOu are not just cynical Hora - you are deluded


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 9:47 am
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So what if I'm cynical?

Being cynical and being an idiot are not the same thing.

There could be many reasons, who are you to judge? Be happy with your lot and stop being jealous of your neighbours.

This.


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 10:05 am
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hora - are you coming out to play on Sunday? You'll be in proper Daily Mail country if you do...


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 10:08 am
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Shop him to the DHSS he is probably some kind of fraudster.

Or just ignore it - Live and let live eh!


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 10:09 am
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Why do you think people of a certain ethnic background have such large families, drive a taxi and manage to live in quite big houses (for their taxi income)?

FFS Hora you have a mixed race child and you post up racist sh1t like that. Perhaps it is the fact that they don’t believe in mortgages and entire families club together to buy houses and pay each other back. As they are not wasting money on mortgage payments or interest they can live in more affluent areas. Perhaps they work 80 hours a week to do this.
Your posts are getting worse can you not just f@ck off to the Dail Whail website and share your pearls of wisdom there? I bet you would be one of the bright one's there.
The working family tax system is not that great that they can be actually better off than you - here do the calculations yourself assuming you wish to test your view against the facts that is otherwise ignore it and keep spouting.

http://www.workingfamilies.org.uk/asp/calculator/Default.aspx

here play with the figures to see how much better off than you they really are under the superbly generous benefit sytstem that [in the deceitful words of he right wing press] is the most generous in the whole of Europe if not the world.


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 10:13 am
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Did they buy the house at a different time to you? That'd be my guess: they have a tiny mortgage and yours is much bigger.


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 10:19 am
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FFS Hora you have a mixed race child and you post up racist sh1t like that. Perhaps it is the fact that they don’t believe in mortgages and entire families club together to buy houses and pay each other back. As they are not wasting money on mortgage payments or interest they can live in more affluent areas. Perhaps they work 80 hours a week to do this.

Why does being a sceptic make me a racist? 😆


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 10:20 am
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OP, stop being such a jealous chicken plucker, and mind your own business. People like you get right on my thrupenny bits!


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 10:20 am
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Small scale lottery win?


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 10:21 am
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wow Hora great joke lets hope your child does not meet sceptics in life eh 🙄
Anything of substance to say about my reply?


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 10:27 am
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Dont even get me started on the mobility/DLA scheme! A family member is on this his first car was a Focus now its a Volvo - a new car every 2 years, free services, all you have to pay for is fuel and the person on it doesn't even drive it! I have to bite my lip every time i see him and he starts boasting about it - grrr!

on the plus side, people with mobility impairments like my girlfriend are pretty glad the motability scheme exists, and we also love our focus. 🙂


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 10:35 am
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Dont even get me started on the mobility/DLA scheme! A family member is on this his first car was a Focus now its a Volvo - a new car every 2 years, free services, all you have to pay for is fuel and the person on it doesn't even drive it! I have to bite my lip every time i see him and he starts boasting about it - grrr!

Yeah I don't think disabled people should get any help at all - survival of the fittest eh? 🙄


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 11:13 am
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Junky, just like the socialist worker rag has days that it'll be right so will the Daily Mail..

Perhaps it is the fact that they don’t believe in mortgages and entire families club together to buy houses and pay each other back

You are making a huge assumption there as well. 🙄


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 11:36 am
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what that Muslims dont believe in interest being earned from money yes a huge assumption there please discredit me of this silly notion via your big insights in to the Koran and Islamic law.
Calling me junky is about the level of the debate you are capable of are we back at school or have you just not got the intelectual weapons to continue?


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 11:56 am
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You are assuming that all are from one religion and all practice that religion and don't hold any main UK bank accounts.

Does that automatically mean I belong to the C&E and attend Sunday service every Sunday morning Junkyardy?


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 12:02 pm
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They've just bought a brand new vectra this year

I doubt that, didn't Vauxhall stop making Vectras two years ago?


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 12:16 pm
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Even the most liberal of STW members will accept that 80% of benefits are, on the whole a waste of public money.

The mindset of "It's OK my actions don't matter as the state will pay for all my mistakes" needs to be removed from the thought process of the general public.

Oh, to answer the OP - mind your own business! 😉


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 12:18 pm
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I wonder why Jellybaby is at home today is she on benefits as well "Pot & Kettle"


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 12:34 pm
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Even the most liberal of STW members will accept that 80% of benefits are, on the whole a waste of public money.

How do you arrive at that figure? Can you please expand on what constitutes 'a waste of money'? 🙄


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 12:37 pm
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Even the most liberal of STW members will accept that 80% of benefits are, on the whole a waste of public money.

I don't think they will actually.


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 12:38 pm
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I don't think they will actually

Yeah, good point!


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 12:49 pm
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Even the most liberal of STW members will accept that 80% of benefits are, on the whole a waste of public money.

The mindset of "It's OK my actions don't matter as the state will pay for all my mistakes" needs to be removed from the thought process of the general public.

I won't agree that...
Poorly administered in many cases and open to abuse, but actually I’m glad I live in a society where those who fall on hard times are helped, not some sort of Nietzschen state full of selfish arses…

Benefits are generally put in place to [u]Benefit[/u] those with a genuine requirement they can't meet on their own, many of those who make use of them are or have been working tax paying members of society who have earned the right to financial and material assistance from the state when things don't go their way, health, old age, bereavement, divorce, unemployment - circumstances often beyond the control of the individual...

What Thatcher’s children and the Red tops fail to report are those that do deserve access to benefits, those that are able to continue working and paying taxes thanks to benefits no apparently only a scrounger would ever consider drawing benefits... One side of the story politics as usual…


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 12:52 pm
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I don't know how this turned into a race argument but its quite amusing. keep it up. I love a good racist-bashing!


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 12:56 pm
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hora I am not falling in to the trap of arguing with an idiot as they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.

IF 80% of benefits are a waste of money that would have to include pensions then.


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 12:56 pm
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Remember of course that our benefit levels are very low in comparison to most other EU countries.


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 12:57 pm
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Thatcher’s children

Thatcher’s children become Browns paupers in retirement.

hora I am not falling in to the trap of arguing with an idiot as they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience

There is a difference between my depth of experience and the shallow waters in what you chose to swim.


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 1:23 pm
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Trolling or serious?

Hence why its nice on the bike' forum...

@OP you don't know how they are getting that money-why you ask them instead of being a jealous man.

Everyone in my street has a brand new car, I run a banger-whooppee doo da who gives a single speed? 😆


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 1:29 pm
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Joke obviously. Forums are moshpits sometimes.

I can only dream of a new car!


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 1:33 pm
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Just to clarify, the 80% stated above was a STW sourced statistic 😀

Thought i best inform you all of that before someone has a stroke and ended up needing DLA!


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 1:34 pm
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