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Just wondering if anyone of here will be heading up? Looks like its gonna be fun especially with parts of the EWS stages thrown in!
Yeah I'm going, but I've got a ****ed neck so in my current condition will be lucky to survive practise.
Not getting my hopes up too much about EWS stuff, some of the trails used in the past were part of the EWS anyway
Regardless...... ENDURO!!1!
I did it last year, it was a cracking weekend. Stages 4 and 5 were amazing TBH.
Heading to the Alps this year so wont make it unfortunately.
It'll be my first go at this one, although I've rode glentess and inners before, looking forward to it, just hope my fitness is good enough, i had a bit of a nightmare at the Ard Rock last weekend lol
This one won't be at Inners, just around Peebles. So that's some less miles for you to think about!
Anyone know if you can cark overnight at Tweed Green?
Cark?? its not gonna be that hard surely lol!
In all seriousness I'm not sure, theres a good campsite in Peebles though about a two minute walk from the High st.
[i]Anyone know if you can cark overnight at Tweed Green? [/i]
No idea, but you can leave a car at the Kingsmeadow car park (2 mins the otherside of the river) - not for camping though.
Phil, just dropped you an email on an unrelated matter 🙂
Yeah I'm looking forward to it, not sure if it will include Cademuir this time?
Cademuir I'm fine with either way, but racing up Janet's Brae can **** right off 😉
I've heard unconfirmed reports Cademuir is not getting used this year, due to the fact some of the EWS stages are being used this year, more options I suppose, dont quote me on that though, 😐 looking forward to it
I am entering again this year
Anyone had an email recently about the event?
Not sure how many stages involved, hearing mixed reports?
Was but due to a couple of fractures in my wrist will now be spectating:(
"All stages are descents" not sure how I missed that one!
booked on. didnt realise it was so close! staying at Glentress. its the final round of UCI DH World Cup in Meribel on the Saturday too - Hoping it might on in a boozer somewhere??
ffs, hadn't realised the WC clash. Will have to make it an early start/early finish for practice then!
I'll be there. The stages for it are going to be great. I had lots of fun riding them the other week.
Doing it again this year, was ace last year. Still waiting to hear what the route is. Anyone know?
Missing this one due to being in the wrong country but it'll be ace, they've all been ace. The talk back at the start was that the trails will be slightly easier than last year- not easy, just a bit less fearsome than stage 4. Interesting to see what they come up with if they're not using Cademuir but also it's all descents.
Second part of stage 4 was the business.
Shame if they have elfinsafetied the course. What was stage 4 last yr?
Stage 4 was the cademuir downhill. I loved it tbh but it was probably a bit much, considering what a big step up it was from 2012, the top section was pretty treacherous with the weather and traffic. There's plenty of room to go a little easier, while still giving people sleepless nights 😆
But this is really old news, they could have changed their minds and decided to make it crazed.
I'll be there, have been mainly riding on the road this year, ridden properly off road about 5 times and the bike I'll be racing once! Should be a laugh!!
Booked on.
#enduro
Vid if it here. As always it makes it look flatter than it was. Trust me, it was steep!
Well I dont know what the fuss is about - that's not a particularly bonkers trail and I know it well. The ews had much steeper stuff in it. Is POC designed for families/beginners? It's a great fun bit of riding, shame if they pull it.
Glasgowdan, it was a lot of fun the week before but you have to admit it's still not easy. On race day after having thousands of wheels through it in practice (and cheeky pre-practice-practice), not to mention heavy rain and even snow the week before, it was pretty bloomin hard. Not quite jawburn hard but not so far off, and tougher than any of the other EWS stages. I must have passed 5 people pushing down parts of the top section.
It's in no way too tough for an average enduro. Jawbone was a superb trail to have in a race and hearing people like Hannah Barnes saying it was too tricky highlights perhaps the boundaries between different people's perceptions of what enduro is.
Fingers crossed they keep something steep and scary in the POC.
No offence but... you didn't do the race so that probably explains why there's a difference of opinion. On the day it was easily one of the hardest enduro stages I've ever done. Not as hard as Jawburn, maybe a little easier than the Steps of Bottomless Mud at fort william, but that's about it.
Difference in riding perhaps? I rode both sides of cademuir shortly afterwards and it was a giggle, but not steep/tough compared to a lot of trails around Scotland as you know.
The point I'm making is that it shouldn't be taken out of an enduro for being too tough. Seems there are a lot of people moaning about enduro stages being too technical this year.
It's in no way too tough for an average enduro.
it was a giggle
*swoon*
I can see your point though, riding it shortly afterwards definitely gives you a better idea of what it was like on the day, than riding it on the day ever could.
The point I'm making is that it shouldn't be taken out of an enduro for being too tough.
Alternatively, maybe they've taken it out to avoid using the same course year after year, especially when they know folk would rather ride stages from the EWS?
So, nobody knows what stages are in, and you are already arguing over whether they are too hard, and waving your genitalia at each other ?
This reminds me of the non-facts-fest in the Referendum thread, the most non-factual 215 pages on the entire Internet. But with more willies.
Yeah, but the longest, hardest willies ever seen in scottish enduro.
the true battle of endooro is fought 25% online in forums, 25% enduro clothing (including colour coordination), 25% strava and finally 25% stage times.
I'm in, first ever Enduro, not really sure what to expect to be honest. Just going to treat it as a big day out where I can find out just how fast (or slow) I went down the downs.
Well done coogan in that vid of S4 from last year. I wish I could have ridden that with the same finesse 🙂
I agree, Cademuir S4 was hard...for me anyway. It was tight, steep and tricky and so unlike the riding I am used to. The other 4 stages were fine (loved 3 and 5) but S4 allowed the good riders to really shine.
S4 rattled me in practice and then again come race day 🙂 I would have liked to have spent much more time on it. Just to ride it slowly without (lots of dabbing) would have been an achievement. Let alone race it. The next time I'm in the valley I'll pop over that way for a cheeky session.
I do think that type of trail, albeit difficult has to be included though. Even in the POC. It's not a beginners enduro. The EWS stages this year looked even more difficult/scary. And so they should be with pro racers in attendence.
I can only imagine that the EWS stages to be included this year would be the ones that used/adapted existing trails within GT would it not?
I can't make it this year and have asked for a refund. Shame, as it is a great event and a decent challenge.
Things progressed onto a wider debate about enduro courses, still waiting for a reply from someone who actually knows what's in! Hopefully lots of bonkers stuff.
I do think that type of trail, albeit difficult has to be included though. Even in the POC. It's not a beginners enduro. The EWS stages this year looked even more difficult/scary. And so they should be with pro racers in attendence.
I can only imagine that the EWS stages to be included this year would be the ones that used/adapted existing trails within GT would it not?
I think you're thinking g of the Inners stages, quite different from the Glentress EWS stages.
Dan, are you not racing your Glory if you want full-bore DH action?
I rode the EWS stages 2,3,and 4 on Sunday afternoon, certainly the section of 2 through the woods down to Deliverance and the final pitch of stage 3 to the ponds were quite steep, nothing like Jawburn though. It was actually the final section from the fort into Peebles which surprised me, very tight and slippy with one rock section which I might have ridden in the dry but in the soaking wet with an open face helmet it was a climb down!! Will definitely be running mud tyres in a couple of weeks time!
I'll not be 'racing' anything Mark, just riding! 🙂 I've decided I don't like racing but having already entered I have to see it through. Laggan was interesting and the amount of cockups I made by putting myself under pressure was unreal.
What's cool about the fort descent is that it's not really difficult... But doing the whole thing at pace, that's difficult, and all of a sudden even simple wee corners with roots in become a totally different matter as you try and get through them as fast as possible, while breathing out your arse 😆 Kind of the holy grail of enduro, that, for me- something that most competent riders can make a fist of but that rewards skill and stamina and p...sychology. The innerleithen mtb racing guys are traditionally good at that, it's better than having stuff that gets a decent proportion of the field off their bikes
(like the SES nevis range round where I gather the entire womens' field ran one section, frexample, it's not cyclocross!)
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was extremely fresh and had tree stumps placed top and bottom so obviously it's not open yet but it'll be awesome if we get a new track for the race!
Furryboots was that taken?
Between the picnic bench on super g and the bottom of the blue that leads on from spooky.
Trying to suss out where this is, looks like its in wee bit that looks quarried out, if you crossed over the fire road it would take you in around Broon troot kinna area, whcih would make sense :/
No, imagine you'd just come down Spooky, took a left and down the muddy chute to the fire road. This is up that fire road to the left so I imagine it starts between the chute and the blue or somewhere off the blue.
About the 20km mark
http://www.strava.com/activities/179586262/segments/4199629878
No, imagine you'd just come down Spooky, took a left and down the muddy chute to the fire road. This is up that fire road to the left so I imagine it starts between the chute and the blue or somewhere off the blue.
Yeh thats where Im thinking 🙂
Looking at the map, it is pretty close to Broon Troot. In my mind that's miles away!
My first enduro and I am looking forward to it , the wife and mini moonsaballoon are coming down to cheer me on and were making a weekend of it . It's also been a great excuse to treat the bike to a few new fancy bits
Event video on the way soon...
nice tune on the Coogan vid!
I know where that bit is...
so the course is open for practice on the saturday - how easy are the sections to repeat? can you generally spin back up a fire road to the top, dont think we'll be doing the whole loop twice but it'd be good to session some bits.
Without knowing the exact route, it'll still be easy to loop sections given the layout of the forest.
so the course is open for practice on the saturday - how easy are the sections to repeat?
Difficult to say, given the course has not been announced yet, unless I've completely missed it?!
Whats the chances the start of the stage will be spooky wood then a detour off on to this new stage then across into broon troot?
Seems reasonable, they've done the troot before but as a standalone very short stage, and spooky as part of a big redroute stage
I'm just hoping that it's not just a new exit from Secret & Lies
Wouldn't expect so- S&L is officially closed because of issues further up and I've not heard it mentioned for rework/reopening. (the woodwork's way past end-of-life, it's bollocksed. But I think everyone secretly admits that's why it's so good)
That pic is the new exit from Betty Blue, just as the last left that takes you to the exit along the fence. So some sort of Spooky\BB section, then that leads nicely into Brown Trout.
We did Zorro and Five Year Plan last night. Very wet and muddy. Can't see either of them in the KOTH. new Ho-Chi-Min, ZoB and the Fort for sure I reckon.
Trail closures for the weekend http://www.7stanesmountainbiking.com/Glentress---Innerleithen
about 3 turns from the end of spooky there's a trail that leads you down to the start of betty blue, there's even an option to take you a little bit further into betty blue, that could lead you into the new exit above and into broon trout. from there it's pretty easy transition over to double x and the bitch from the EWS course.
I don't know but just guessing.
From the pond you could follow the ews route back to ho chi min.
There's gonna be 'long hard willies'?? I may need to take my shades 😯 😆
I usually get a walnut whip during these events
Diane - MemberThere's gonna be 'long hard willies'??
I'm sorry to say, Glasgowdan rode all the willies and says they were actually not very hard at all.
Amazing!
Trail closures for the weekend http://www.7stanesmountainbiking.com/Glentress---Innerleithen
So going by this i think
Stage 1: Spooky Wood -> Betty Blue with new exit -> Broon troot
Stage 2: EWS stage 3
Stage 3: EWS stage 4
Then over to cademuir for last years KOTH last two stages
Latest word from the Organisers...
Hi guys, I thought I'd try here...is anyone going from Edinburgh and has a free space a car and is keen to take one more person+a bike? I'd be happy to share the fuel costs, of course!:)
Not giving much away are they. Couple of Cademuir stages, the Spooky/Betty/Trout one, one or maybe two more then finish with HCM -> Fort.
Would love them to chuck Zorro in!
Biggest question for me is four or five stages and what's the time limit likely to be, 4hrs or 5hrs?
I didn't see any Cademuir in that vid unless that was the bit at the beginning?
From about 1:30 onwards is Cademuir
I wonder if we'll start off with the Cademuir stages this year then do GT?
That would be my guess. The big G-out of the bottom of JennyG and the lead in to it makes a good spectator zone for the finish.
Noted that there are no closures of the Black at GT for next weekend.
Which to me means the first three EWS stages from the second day of the EWS are not being used unless we're only doing part-bits of them (if that's possible without having piles of riders stacking up around the Black.
Doesn't look like the EWS trails are being used other than S4. Must definitely include spooky wood and betty blue. Not much else closed so might be a fair bit of off piste stuff inc S4 😀