[Closed] Another cyclist assualted....

lol@dez, easy now, people [i]will[/i] take you literally.

Unless that kind of violence against people is in any way justifiable in your world.

Fixed that for you. And no, it's not.

I wouldn't have got involved with the first comment, it was hardly worth it, and pedestrians are quite often already wound up by the shitty infrastructure they have to put up with.

It sounds from his comment, as he was assaulting her, like he while was already overreacting badly to her first comment she gave him the finger.

He's an arsehole, he'll be up on assault, if she did give him the finger he'll get off more lightly.

"Smile and Wave, Boys, Just Smile and Wave."

Unless that kind of violence against women is in any way justifiable in your world.

I have a friend who is partially sighted due to his refusal to appropriately deal with a violent woman. An acrylic nail can do a great deal of damage to an eyeball.

Violence and confrontation from any gender must be addressed and challenged in an appropriate way. being of a particular gender does not give you a free pass to act like an animal.

A man shouting "COME ON! COME ON THEN!" and this is what we should focus on, whether she wheelied over his pathetic little penis or waved a knuckleduster in his face matters NOT A JOT.

So, according to you......

If you're a woman you're above the law & accepted normal levels of decency & good manners?

Jesus, did she have acrylic nails too?

I'm slowly coming round to the bloke's point of view.

Dez - I'm not sure anyone is saying what he did was very wrong - you'd have to be kind of weird not to. He was probably just a little ball of impotent anger waiting to explode. Just trying to work out why is exploded right at that moment.

I have a friend who is partially sighted due to his refusal to appropriately deal with a violent woman. An acrylic nail can do a great deal of damage to an eyeball.

[i]Dez - I'm not sure anyone is saying what he did was very wrong[/i]

Well, using the word "clearly" which I've seen a few times on this thread: Clearly mrlebowski thinks she deserved something.

Jesus, did she have acrylic nails too?

I'm slowly coming round to the bloke's point of view.

Haha, I think she also had a stiletto she was going to hit him with.

He was clearly already an angry man, if it wasn't that cyclist, I'm sure someone would have copped that rage at some point that day.

I have a friend who is partially sighted due to his refusal to appropriately deal with a violent woman. An acrylic nail can do a great deal of damage to an eyeball.

Violence and confrontation from any gender must be addressed and challenged in an appropriate way. being of a particular gender does not give you a free pass to act like an animal.

Wow. Ok, I exaggerated! I guess that doesn't come across in forum font to some folk!

Way I see it... If you take the very worst version of events that the victim-blamers can come up with, he's still absolutely a total **** assaulting someone without good reason. So blame away, it makes no difference whatsoever, you're just rearranging deckchairs on a total ****.

[i]Just trying to work out why is exploded right at that moment.[/i]

because she was a target he knew that he could attack with impunity?

Clearly mrlebowski thinks she deserved something.

Eh...?

So, according to you......

If you're a woman you're above the law & accepted normal levels of decency & good manners?

Yes, yes, yes!

That's exactly what DebZ is saying.

...clearly.

What he's done his wrong make no mistake - but lets be honest & look at what we are presented with

A man pushing a woman into a road full of traffic.

@spchantler

That would depend on you. I'm fairly large and have a significant weight advantage to the woman in question. A good arm bar until the police arrive would probably suffice.

What he did was ignore an increasingly violent woman after she had already assaulted him, she then attacked him from behind and got his eye as he lost her shit. He regrets his lack of action, unfortunately hindsight is 20/20, well, not in his case but you get my meaning.

Having once mouthed off at an impatient driver and then been assaulted, I'm in the "What he did was totally wrong but never antagonise a stranger " camp with this one.

That in no way undermines the seriousness of what the guy did, but hindsight taught me a valuable lesson.

My driver got a caution for the assault btw - the other thing I learnt that day was that if I was going to assault someone, I wouldn't have a short and memorable personalised plate on my [s]Audi A3[/s] car.

The guy was an arse. I was bored the other day at work and watched a load of those road rage compilations on YT. Made me realise there are a lot of angry and frustrated road users out there. But the level of violence they go to for the most innocuous incidents is pretty scary.

because she was a target he knew that he could attack with impunity?

In that part of London you could have your pick of vulnerable female cyclists if that was your thing, and just wait there for them to go past and not go to the trouble of running after one! So no, that's not a good enough reason.

Having once mouthed off at an impatient driver and then been assaulted, I'm in the "What he did was totally wrong but never antagonise a stranger " camp with this one.

And that's your right, but equally, it's entirely wrong to criticise someone for standing up to a bully.

Clearly mrlebowski thinks she deserved something.

Oh FFS I've never said that!

In fact I've repeatedly stated my disgust at his actions.

What I have said or roughly is this:

1. It seems he was provoked?
2. What was it that happened to provoke him?
3. Be very wary of idling telling someone to F off as you don't know how they are going to react, if that is indeed what occurred.

At what point does that insinuate I think she deserved to be pushed off her bike?

In fact just to be clear, I'll say it one more time just for you:

HE'S A SCROAT.

@Convert, most cyclist are vulnerable, unless they can get the drop on an individual and dismount the bike before an assault occurs, you just end up on your arse. SPD/Road shoes are not the best footwear to stand your ground in either.

Clearly he's someone who will escalate to violence every time he has a confrontation.

Two pages and no a single mention of "[i]it could have been a child's face[/i]"

Is disappoint.

Even flipping the bird in retaliation to [i]"shut up you mug"[/i] really doesn't warrant pushing a cyclist off into oncoming traffic.

I hope the police are able to have chat.

I learnt that day was that if I was going to assault someone, I wouldn't have a short and memorable personalised plate on my car.

🙂

Even flipping the bird in retaliation to "shut up you mug" really doesn't warrant pushing a cyclist off into oncoming traffic.

Agreed. And I don't think anyone on this thread has claimed that, though I believe that's how some sensitive souls have interpreted some opinions.

[i]HE'S A SCROAT.[/i]

It's spelt SCROTE.

And that's your right, but equally, it's entirely wrong to criticise someone for standing up to a bully.

Thats a good & brave point - but you'd better be able to deal with the consequences of your actions.

Clearly he's someone who will escalate to violence every time he has a confrontation.

Helmet cam. Asking him to keep out of the way. Possible acrylic nails.

Clearly, this kind of thing would drive the most easy-going guy to push a girl off a bike.

Helmet cam. Asking him to keep out of the way. Possible acrylic nails.

Clearly, this kind of thing would drive the most easy-going guy to push a girl off a bike.

Most definitely.

The guy in the video is scum.

This is funny however

Having watched it again it does seem she gave him the finger....cant see why folks can't just ride/walk/drive away from trouble rather than go looking for it?

Seems to me you are looking for trouble by simplying being here

No one ever says please dont knock me off then flips the bird.

I assume she waived her hand /arm dismissively and angry man assaulted her.

The only possible interpretation here is he committed an assault and STW has more than its fair share of dicks. Who should be hit repeatedly, in an attempt to knock sense into them, as we all chant well you should have said nothing to justify it . they will nod in agreement about how they provoked the situation as they go off to hospital.

you'd better be able to deal with the consequences of your actions

Yes its definitely the consequences rather than someone going unpredictably apeshit, committing assault and then breaking the law

Can we meet up so I can deliver your consequences? you will agree you have deserved it for your views I assume 🙄

He's a bloody coward and will no doubt be arrested and prosecuted for assault.

He's an arsehole, he'll be up on assault

If she was a pedestrian or a driver then maybe.

But she is a cyclist so it will be the bottom of the heap.

Note that this took place on the 1st of May, nearly four months ago, and the police just released the footage today.

Compare that to the [url= http://news.sky.com/story/1537801/man-arrested-after-aston-martin-keyed-on-cctv ]guy scratching the Aston Martin[/url] where the video was made public after less than two months and the bloke swiftly arrested.

If I was better with words I might be able to draw a comparison to some people's over heated reaction to some of the posts on this thread and shoving a woman off a bike for flicking the finger....

STW has more than its fair share of dicks.

Do I get to push you off the internet now? I have been provoked and all?

Who should be hit repeatedly, in an attempt to knock sense into them, as we all chant well you should have said nothing to justify it . they will nod in agreement about how they provoked the situation as they go off to hospital.

Anyone care to interpret that for me, it's a tad too Yoda...

Can we meet up so I can deliver your consequences? you will agree you have deserved it for your views I assume

*[i]swoon[/i]*

You've lost me junkyard....

Are you saying I'm looking for trouble?

If so, that really couldn't be further from the truth!

As for assumption.... you know what they say about her?

She's the Mother of all F ups....

Assume nothing until you've all the facts.

Edit: just read your edit.....

Grow UP.

Pity.

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someone going unpredictably apeshit

That's why it's often best just to walk away......

I've learnt my lesson that gobbing off at strangers often ends up in tears/blood/absent teeth.

I'm one for the quiet life & like my smile so I've learnt to bite my tongue.

Sadly, it seems some can't & unfortunately end up the worse for it.

And if anyone wants to try & interpret that as my saying she deserved it.....well. you're in a pretty sad place!

@Junkyard, maybe you live in an alternate universe where the roads aren't seemingly chock full of people who are willing to escalate to violence at the drop of a hat, same with those who like behaving like pigs in public.

More often than not, they will escalate to violence for very little, and even more so if they perceive weakness or vulnerability.

If you want to go around thinking we live in this nice polite world where you confront these people and walk away unscathed, that's your shout, just don't expect the rest of us to be that naive.

Nobody deserves to be assaulted, but sometimes that is going to be the consequence of doing the right thing. Or doing nothing, some people need no provocation to attack, they will find it themselves.

Why are you still here then saying the same thing? WALK AWAY PLEASE [ waves arm in exasperated fashion awaits assault he deserves - its a really shit argument you are putting fwd

Are you saying I'm looking for trouble?

Well you seem to think anyone who speaks to anyone is so yes you must be looking for unpredictable over the top reaction resulting in violence.

"grow up" surley there is enough justification now for me to launch an assault on you according to your great thinking

Anyway its just your argument used against you so we at least agree its immature and puerile

"grow up" surley there is enough justification now for me to launch an assault on you according to your great thinking

He's never said it was justified...just that it could happen.

@Junkyard, if we were having this discussion face to face, and you were waving your arms around I would fully expect it could become a physical confrontation. To assume otherwise would be a ridiculous underestimation on my part.

Violence is the go to for a great deal of people to deal with disagreements and confrontation. It is indicative of modern society and most definitely a certain section of society.

Junkyard. Why do you feel the need to be rude when interacting with folk on this forum?

I do live in a world where you can say please dont run me over and not get assaulted. I dont think this is massively naive of me

He's never said it was justified...just that it could happen.