[Closed] Aaron Gwin is insane

Well DT are capitalizing on it now...

[url= https://www.dtswiss.com/Components/Rims-MTB/EX-471 ]From DTs EX471 Product page (Under the [I]"NEWS AND RIDERS"[/I] Tab)[/url]:

INCREDIBLE RACE OF ARON GWIN
DT Swiss components – made for common use as well as for worldcup riders with exceptional requirements:
after catching a flat tire already at the beginning of the race Aron Gwin continues his descend unperturbed an manages to pass the finish line literally on his rims! Must watch:

Bike trade lesson number one - Don't always believe what the stickers say on pro kit...

Not that I always believe the labels, but shirley it would be more likely that DT would sticker up an enduro Rim as a DH Rim than to dress their DH rim up as an Enduro one?

Plus looking at it the rim profile in that photo it actually looks like the EX471, if it were one of their DH rims say a EX500 or 533D or it would have a flatter top to the profile, I think they might have actually just used a EX471 as a bit of a weight saver, its notmally only got to last one run (generally with a tyre)...

When and how was that tape moved?

I did wonder if Kerr would get DQ'd when I was watching, I didn't realize the tape had actually been moved.

The air pressure pushes the tape into the holes, same happens with the yellow stan's tape.

Is Kerr fighting it? Does he even have the ability to? - the 0.5m off the ground thing is definitely not true at the crest.

When and how was that tape moved?

Looks like the tape got moved out at some point after Kerr's run?

If he knocked the pole down it's pretty likely it didn't get put back up in the same place. It was never .5 metres up either, stupid rule that tbf though, Si was quoting BC not UCI. Thing is I don't think he didn't ride out of the tape because it was badly taped, he rode out because he was a bit out of control, so that could only be a technicality I suppose

Last time I bothered to read the rules, you had to rejoin where you left, which I think meant "between the same poles". But I hear there were changes for this year?

Judging from this spectator video that has cropped up Kerr did go the wrong side of a pole and also inadvertently ended up moving the tape:

http://www.pinkbike.com/v/embed/367576/?colors=c80000

I'll try again:

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I give up!

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Northwind - Member

Last time I bothered to read the rules, you had to rejoin where you left, which I think meant "between the same poles". But I hear there were changes for this year?

Miinaar was DQ'd for same earlier this season

I haven't seen Minaar's actual run but he said he'd gone the wrong side of a pole. But then if Kerr did too that whole train of thought is bollocks 🙂

Seeing as how he runs over both of the poles in that video, surely he's always on the correct side of them?

Or always on the wrong side

Yep - seeing that vid, he's knackered.
From the redbull feed, you couldn't see the poles - it just looked like tape.

A feature like that should be taped as wide as possible anyway IMO, Especially as the rocks embedded on the face of it extend someway past the tape and Riders were turning Left Shortly before heading over over a blind crest on to it, was any purpose actually served by effectively narrowing the course at that point?

Where was the tape in practice and Qualification?

But I'd have to agree, He was the only one to put his wheels outside of the tape at that point on the course and he hit not one but two poles which apparently all the other's missed, Real shame because it was his best result to date wasn't it?

Rachael went through the tape on the outside of a corner in a WC race last season (Windham?), nearly crashed-off but got back on course, was not DQed, and went on to win the race.

It's up to the commissioners to decide if the rider could have gained advantage by going though the tape. This is open to interpretation.

It's up to the commissioners to decide if the rider could have gained advantage by going though the tape. This is open to interpretation.

I thought this was no longer true, if you leave then you have to come back at the same point no matter what.

Rachael went through the tape on the outside of a corner in a WC race last season (Windham?), nearly crashed-off but got back on course, was not DQed, and went on to win the race.
It's up to the commissioners to decide if the rider could have gained advantage by going though the tape. This is open to interpretation.

That incident is precisely why the rules are being so rigidly enforced this season, she really should have been DQ'd for that, the judgement that sje gained no time by leaving the course is balls TBH...

Really the UCI should allow some more proportionate penalties for "leaving the course, time added would be a better way to handle things IMO.

Re:- Rim tape

It appears he was using rim plugs

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http://m.pinkbike.com/news/first-ride-roval-traverse-fattie-wheels-2015.html

Not that I always believe the labels, but shirley it would be more likely that DT would sticker up an enduro Rim as a DH Rim than to dress their DH rim up as an Enduro one?

It's more that it is either a) A DT proto rim or b) Not made by DT Swiss at all.

But in answer to the question, if they were to sticker up a DH rim of any variety then an nice bonus might be that when the tyre blows off the rim the so called "Enduro" rim can survive a full DH run and gives some good publicity...

Could it be a Roval rim, look similar, see my previous post?

dirtydog - Member
Could it be a Roval rim, look similar, see my previous post?

It's unlikely if DT Swiss are claiming it as a triumph. See this earlier post

cookeaa - Member
Well DT are capitalizing on it now...

From DTs EX471 Product page (Under the "NEWS AND RIDERS" Tab):

INCREDIBLE RACE OF ARON GWIN
DT Swiss components – made for common use as well as for worldcup riders with exceptional requirements:
after catching a flat tire already at the beginning of the race Aron Gwin continues his descend unperturbed an manages to pass the finish line literally on his rims! Must watch:

Re Kerr's DQ; the 2 images in peachos' post show the tape being moved significantly. was that because of his crashing into the poles or did they move them before meaning they were tighter than he would have expected?

Aye just read that Speeder, clearly not a Roval then.

My experience of Roval rims suggests that was not a Roval rim 😆

Re Kerr's DQ; the 2 images in peachos' post show the tape being moved significantly. was that because of his crashing into the poles or did they move them before meaning they were tighter than he would have expected?

I thought it was moved before Kerr's run, but it seems like it was moved (wider) after he knocked the tape down. Subsequent riders then landed in a similar width to Kerr (i.e. they would have also been DQ'd), which adds to the complexity of the issue.

Either way, Kerr has held his hands up and admitted he went out of the tape and deserved the DQ, as that's the rule. Not that he necessarily agrees with the rule.

Wideopenmag has a good interview with him on the matter: http://wideopenmag.co.uk/news/22963/we-talked-to-bernard-kerr-about-his-world-cup-disqualification