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Justified by being made in a shed on these shores and simply lovely -

http://www.theaftermarket.cc/product/illuminati-handmade-light-set/

Pricey but very nice indeed.


 
Posted : 10/10/2014 9:38 am
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Sooo form over function then.. 🙁


 
Posted : 10/10/2014 9:43 am
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Looks like a school CDT project. Don't like.


 
Posted : 10/10/2014 9:44 am
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Justified by being made in a shed on these shores

You mean like Exposure?

They just look vastly overpriced, don't get it at all.


 
Posted : 10/10/2014 9:44 am
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Not for me either
Regardless of price


 
Posted : 10/10/2014 9:45 am
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They look alright for cheap £10 lights. Laughable with £100 on top of that!


 
Posted : 10/10/2014 9:49 am
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njee, as in it justified a plug for a small business, no comment on RRP vs cost/time to make for the pair.

I like the mount and the simple looks/build. But I predict a majority opinion 'against' : ) Which may be about right for something like this.


 
Posted : 10/10/2014 9:54 am
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Looks like a school CDT project

That was my first thought,there is no style there.
Unless it has £100 of smart tech inside,then it's very overpriced for something that looks worse than a Maglite .


 
Posted : 10/10/2014 9:57 am
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I dunno, they do look quite cool in a old/new kinda way. And £110 isn't bad for mainstream lights, same as a single joystick or a bit more than a flash/flare or trace/traceR (I'm presuming it's £110 for the pair?) we're just spoilt by the cheapness of chinese stuff. And those mounts are lovely and simple, but look secure enough that you couldn't nick the lights. How long would a joystick last on a bike locked to a streetlamp?

I'm going to try and make some mounts like that for my old 808 magicshine and rear light, then permenantly mount them and the wiring to my comuter with one discreet battery and no coils of surplus cable.


 
Posted : 10/10/2014 10:01 am
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I like the aesthetic of them personally, they're clearly intended to look industrial and do it well. They're a hilarious price though - firmly into hipster lifestyle accessory territory.


 
Posted : 10/10/2014 10:03 am
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Yebbut they're made by a man in a shed! In the wilds of Scotland! On a lathe! The man has a beard! Slicked back hair with undercut! And a tattoo sleeve! A lumberjack shirt! And a woodburner! And an axe! The axe was made by a man in a shed! In the wilds of Scotland! etc.

You bloody heathens.


 
Posted : 10/10/2014 10:04 am
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How about this for the commute ?

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Only €75 🙂


 
Posted : 10/10/2014 10:06 am
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And £110 isn't bad for mainstream lights, same as a single joystick or a bit more than a flash/flare or trace/traceR (I'm prsuming it's £110 for the pair?)

They come with button cell batteries, so I imagine the output is more like your £20 Cateye jobs than a Flash/Flare.

Indeed the front one looks like a halogen bulb rather than LED, although perhaps using 'warm' LEDs?

I can see they'd nicely set off a chromed fixie ridden by a fakenger hipster **** in Dalston, which I guess is their target market!


 
Posted : 10/10/2014 10:09 am
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This however is nice and a decent price

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Posted : 10/10/2014 10:11 am
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t's £110 for the pair?
Yes. Still no give-away price but I'm becoming keener on buying durable, well-made stuff less often (I have no idea if these are, but assuming they are for now). Tends to be pricier but long-term better value for the right parts.

What I like most is the way they mount, some of my bikes have lights permanently fitted and most lights are designed for clip-on use. So many of those lights are let down by poor mounts, inc some big-name lights I've bought (at ~£70 for a small front only with r/c batteries, that has been highly unreliable and now returned.. no names mentioned)


 
Posted : 10/10/2014 10:14 am
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I like them as they would look lush on the right bike and I'd be happy to pay for them. But then I dont drive a skoda octavia, use cheap chinese lights or ride an orange 5 and I'm not into "enduro" 😀

but then I like stuff like this

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That V-D is nice.


 
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They come with button cell batteries, so I imagine the output is more like your £20 Cateye jobs than a Flash/Flare.

Indeed the front one looks like a halogen bulb rather than LED, although perhaps using 'warm' LEDs?


LED I'd expect? I'm hoping they offer an AA-fitting LED rear-only. A refracted non-point source rear light with no flash mode, good run-time and a solid mount is a good thing. Would make an ideal partner to a dynamo/Edelux II front. A quick-release USB-charged version would be even better.


 
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That V-D is nice.

Oddest quote of the week.

Be sure not to be overheard saying that in the pub.


 
Posted : 10/10/2014 10:25 am
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^ 😀


 
Posted : 10/10/2014 10:27 am
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LED I'd expect? I'm hoping they offer an AA-fitting LED rear-only

You'd think so, but it's a very yellow output from the photos, all the LED lights I've seen use 'cool' LEDs, those look either like halogen, or very warm. It also says that it's either integrated button cell or remote AAA battery pack.


 
Posted : 10/10/2014 10:27 am
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davosaurusrex - you forgot the skinny jeans no socks and vans - ffs!

🙂


 
Posted : 10/10/2014 11:17 am
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it's a very yellow output from the photos,

I suspect the "photos" have just been shopped up to look that way.


 
Posted : 10/10/2014 11:18 am
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First rule of Hipster marketing, There is no part of life, no product or service which cannot in some way be made more aspirational and given that extra "Premium" spin...

Style wise, Yeah they look all right, is the actual performance (Light output and run time) anything like on a par with other F/R lights I could get for the same sort of money? Of course not, that isn't the point.

Let's be honest here the pricing comes from [i]"Artisan"[/i] Niche manufacture, perceived quality and exclusivity. Seeing where you are going/being seen by other road users is a tertiary issue for this particular light set...
If most of us didn't baulk at the price then half the point of them would be missed...

#moremoneythansense...


 
Posted : 10/10/2014 11:23 am
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Nice idea for a spacer-based mounting. Not seen one of those anywhere else. The lights are a bit meh! But I think that a decent mounting option to headtube would be an advance. I like my BBB headset spacer bell.


 
Posted : 10/10/2014 12:20 pm
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Maglite and a reflector bracket did I save myself 101 quid

All artisan types should be forced to cut off an ear to prove they are comitted to the movement, simply growing a mcbeardy isn't enough or owning an axe.


 
Posted : 10/10/2014 12:48 pm
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Does the meccano come with it?


 
Posted : 10/10/2014 12:49 pm
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Tazzymtb, is that frame engraved? Acid etched? Can you point me in thecdirection of more?


 
Posted : 10/10/2014 12:55 pm
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Jeesus that's a lot of money for some "see me" bike lights, subtle and understated are things I normally like on a bike but not lights.

If you like minimalist these are worth a go
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and if you want to spend £110 on lights then 30 of them will literally get you the xmas tree look.


 
Posted : 10/10/2014 12:57 pm
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I like them as they would look lush on the right bike and I'd be happy to pay for them. But then I dont drive a skoda octavia, use cheap chinese lights or ride an orange 5 and I'm not into "enduro"

Oi! I did drive an Octavia, I use cheap chinese lights, I ride an Orange Five and I'm quite into my enduro racing 🙂

I also ride a rigid Curtis singlespeed with wibbly wobbly bars and stuff though Taz 😉


 
Posted : 10/10/2014 1:00 pm
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No keen on the lights, but that website may come in handy for hard-to-buy-for relatives come Christmas. Ta!


 
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but then I like stuff like this
I can see the attratcion of that even if I'm not as enamoured by it as you. Lights should be primarily (by a long margin) about function*, looking cool would be a nice second (tbh third after price IMcheapskateO).

*there's no actual shots of how well they work, so possibly a little presumptuous of me to suspect they are below par, but I'll wager they aren't as noticeable in use as the aldi specials I posted.


 
Posted : 10/10/2014 1:04 pm
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This is more like it
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Posted : 10/10/2014 1:06 pm
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My favorite quote on the page is:

Dynamo kit. A complete dynamo kit (excluding the dynamo).

Am I being naive to think that a complete dynamo kit would include a dynamo as it would be somewhat incomplete if it didn't????


 
Posted : 10/10/2014 1:17 pm
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If you like minimalist these are worth a go

I've lost count of the number of those POS mini lights I've killed / lost / generally got fed up with from a number of brands over the years : ) But yeah, one end of the £ scale to the other. I do value some stuff like this if it meets my needs though so £50 for a rear light, maybe.

that website may come in handy for hard-to-buy-for relatives come Christmas. Ta!
there's some good stuff on there.


 
Posted : 10/10/2014 1:33 pm
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This however is nice and a decent price
Yeah I'd love a WTF. In fact I was searching for a second hand one earlier this week which is when I found out it had been updated/relaunched recently. I actually much prefer the colour of the old one but I think the frame is better/lighter now?

If you search around that website there's actually a lot of very nice looking hand made stuff but it's all horrendously expensive unfortunately! I like the inner tube washbag actually; that's not too ridiculously priced.


 
Posted : 10/10/2014 1:53 pm
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its a fancy looking torch on a piece of bent steel which looks like its from a pannier rack seat stay mount/attachment

i could probably make one when i get home with the junk in my shed and save myself £110 of gullible-hipster tax in the process


 
Posted : 10/10/2014 2:48 pm
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its a fancy looking torch on a piece of bent steel which looks like its from a pannier rack seat stay mount/attachment

Both mounts were standard fittings on my first road bike in the 70's - the front was to slot an old fashioned light onto, the rear had a large reflector bolted to it.

Something like this:

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Posted : 10/10/2014 3:00 pm
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Jeesus that's a lot of money for some "see me" bike lights, subtle and understated are things I normally like on a bike but not lights.

They're 140 lumens, that's not a bad output for a commuter, more than enough to see by on the road.

Ok they're no better functionaly than the average torch from China which costs a fiver using the same LED, but if they're well made then they may well last a lifetime, and for a commuter that's important, 2 weeks waiting for new lights from China when theyfail on a wet ride would be £50 in petrol.


 
Posted : 10/10/2014 3:29 pm
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Ok, I'll dial down my cynicism to merely underwhelmed.


 
Posted : 10/10/2014 3:32 pm
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Guess how much for these little fellows?

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Posted : 10/10/2014 4:46 pm
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I'd like to say £10.

I guess I would be wrong.


 
Posted : 10/10/2014 4:51 pm
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Guess how much for these little fellows?

For 2 bent coat hangers and a couple of pegs? I shall stretch to 67p and half a pack of Fruitellas


 
Posted : 10/10/2014 6:50 pm
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Just checked. Seems I was x10 out.


 
Posted : 10/10/2014 7:15 pm
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Just checked. Seems I was x10 out.

even more if you want the dark wood version.


 
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