I'm having a good ROFL at the "racers" who are suddenly finding out they're not as fast as they thought they were, despite having a number pinned to them. That must be a real ego-spoiler.
Maybe they should try some Sportives instead and find out who the fast folk really are?
I don't see why over 20mph is "outlandish"
DRuidh I'm not fit just now but but was leaving you behind on FRiday night.
When I was fit I could do 20mph solo on a training ride, I was racing at the time.
Ah sod it I CBA biting any more.
agree with aracer. 20mph average is a barrier for alot of people but for some people who are lucky enough to be fit and fast then its not really that much of a barrier.
Maybe we should invent a STW 100 sportive and let everyone come along ( hell , it could even be free of charge ).
Then we could all sit down at the end and talk average speeds honestly without willy waving but with facts
Druid and radiogear joint best trolls so far imo
I'm insulted. All those tags from posting one letter and I don't get a mention?
no one cares realman. no one cares.
There's a difference between being a troll and a dork.
Now km for distance with ascent in ft is a major faux pas.
Yes, distance in miles and beer in pints and everything else in the world in metric.
On a 3 hour trailquest I can generally maintain 30km/h on the road, barring hills and headwinds, so that's 18.6mph on a hardtail mountain bike.
I could probably average 20mph+ on a road bike for 3 hours on a flattish course.
This morning's spin out trying to keep my HR below 80%
That's pretty much it for me without pushing hard, guess I'll never have a big enough willy to wave 
TBH my average of 18/19MPH + keeps me going as 'padding' in road races. I think to get to the point where I can even see the front runners I need to be averaging 21/22MPH. BTW my averages are only taken on known 100Km route.
Seriously I've known many men that claim to have high averages, but struggle with a single kilometre in a race.
However I've seen fit and strong newcommers end up a jibbering wreck at races, what I'm saying is some people just can't race, but remain strong otherwise.
It also interesting that a lot of older riders recognise that there are many fit strong and well equiped riders on the roads nowadays.
Now you've got my 25TT juices flowing, it's been about 25 years or more since I got my fastest 01.00.57 that was a steel frame, clips and straps, exposed brake cables and normal drops.
Edit; I'm trying to find the info passed on by this chap 'Mike olheiser' I think IIRC he suggested I should be aiming at 25/26MPH on short runs and 18/20MPH for long runs of about 100 miles plus. That got filed straight away 
All over the country. Every week through the year. Also most evenings somewhere in the country in the middle of summer. I'd have thought it unusual for any normal 25 not to have somebody go faster than 25mph.
How bizarre, none of them seem to live near me.
samuri that is true, however they do tend to look like this though.
BTW That's the Mike Olhieser I mentioned above, but totally pointless listening to a guy that can finish ahead of Lance Armstrong 
know what you mean oldgit - i have a mate who racks up 200 miles a week has a high ave speed - stick him in a race he falls to bits
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