Whilst I'm sure that you're documents are important, are they more important than someone elses job?
no but maybe someone losing a job is more likely if they're shite at doing it?
BTW - i don't think the management are any better, they're (nearly) all short sighted protectionist vision-less jobsworth fucktards (maybe)
But you said "striking never achieved anything" and as I said that is a ridiculous statement.
I'm sure when they lose their jobs they'll take solace in the fact that the jarrow march achieved something but my point is that times have changed. In a global economic and employee market striking will ultimately achieve nothing.
I have to say aracer, I'm surprised and slightly disappointed, that appears to be the best you could pull me up on. I would have expected better from you
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In a global .......... employee market
You support a 'global employee market' ?
We are talking about human beings here, human beings with lives, families etc, not a piece of plant or machinery which can be moved around all over the globe as the market dictates.
You support a 'global employee market' ?
F*ck me!!! whether I support it or not (I don't) it's happening!! Some of you lot live in a bubble. Perhaps you need to get jobs in manufacturing industry before you come out with you neo socialist shite. Or are you going to deny that we now live in a free market economy, which by the way wasn't my idea.
I'm sure when they lose their jobs they'll take solace in the fact that the jarrow march achieved something but my point is that times have changed. In a global economic and employee market striking will ultimately achieve nothing.
Fortunately over the years people have taken a different view meaning you get the opportunity to preach self pity and in the meantim all of us benefit from improved working conditions and improved rates of pay.
Ultimately strikes have had incalculable benefits whether you recognize them or not.
Ultimately we can look back on the seismic changes that have come about as a direct result of them.
Ultimately you and I should be grateful for people who didnt stand around bins with "honk if you support us" banners but literally risked life and limb in their efforts to improve working conditions.
Ultimately you and I should be grateful for people who didnt stand around bins with "honk if you support us"
That's most picket lines out then..or are you agreeing with me.....or don't you know
Ultimately you and I should be grateful for people who didnt stand around bins with "honk if you support us" banners but literally risked life and limb in their efforts to improve working conditions.
You really should quote me fully.
Your point seems to be that striking is futile. My point is it is not and that both you and I have benefited from others sacrifices. I at least recognise these sacrifices. I am not sure how you can conclude I am agreeing with you.
You are clearly misunderstanding my point.
F*ck me!!! whether I support it or not (I don't) it's happening!! Some of you lot live in a bubble.
No, you appear to be living in a bubble. We don't have accept that human beings are just like any other bit of the 'global market' equation. And the Lindsey oil refinery workers dispute proves that point - it was precisely a dispute over workers being moved around like inanimate objects.
If the market isn't working in the interest of human beings, then it isn't working.
[/quote]You are clearly misunderstanding my point. [quote]
and you mine. you seem to have me down as some right wing upper management extremist. Believe me that is so far from the truth you couldn't be more wrong. As for sacrifices made for this country both myself and generations of my family have fought in every way to make it safe for us to live in.
If the market isn't working in the interest of human beings, then it isn't working.
I'll be honest now.......I couldn't give a shit for you or any of the other workers in that dispute. As long as i'm ok and my family the rest of you can go on burn 
you seem to have me down as some right wing upper management extremist.
I dont. I understood you were a shop floor worker but thats beside the point I simply took issue with your statement that strikes achieve nothing.
I couldn't give a shit for you or any of the other workers in that dispute. As long as i'm ok and my family the rest of you can go on burn
I'm not in the dispute comrade.
That attitude RaveyDavey, got us through our darkest hour during WW2, when the nation's future lay in the hands of The Few.
Oh please! Don't start trying to draw comparrisons between the nation's support for the efforts of brave people fighting against an aggressor in an actual war where people were being killed with the fact you (and a few others) think that us folk working in the real world should be standing side by side with the workers of a long overdue for a kick up the a@se industry, that seems pre-occupied with protecting their own jobs rather than providing a decent service, they are nothing alike.
RM would save a fortune if they didnt drop all those red rubber bands everywhere and reused them.
(Postie rich is a l4zy **** etc)
I don't know if that was directed at me sooty, or even, what the **** you're on about, but I just threw in that comment in my last post because RaveyDavey made some comment about 'the sacrifices him and his family had made for this country'.
Quite why, I'm not entirely sure.
You'll have to excuse me then, didn't realise it was a retort to an earlier ”they fought in the war you know?" comment. I thought you were going all Daily Mail on me there Ernie and making grossly inappropiate comparrisons willy nilly.
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