It must be awful trying to survive on 3-4 times the average wage. If ever there were a worthy strike, this is it. The miners didn’t realise how lucky they were…

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/oct/04/deal-over-junior-doctors-contracts-was-torn-up-reveals-ex-health-minister

Bore off.

Bit on the nose.

Anyway, good to see the Conservative’s bullshit machine continues to twist malleable melons.

https://www.politicshome.com/health-and-care/articles/story/tory-chair-health-committee-my-daughter-has-left-nhs-work-australia

Pity anyone who gets sick.

It must be awful trying to survive on 3-4 times the average wage. If ever there were a worthy strike, this is it. The miners didn’t realise how lucky they were…

I thought the doctors who are annoyed earned less than he average wage

Dentists earn way more that doctors for 9-5 work

met a child cancer specialist who reckoned he earnt 2 or 3 times less than a dentist

Sorry I shouldn’t feed the trolls

The funny sections in the middle of the daily mail loddrik.

Did you get a bit of a semi when you posted this thread? Little adrenaline rush in anticipation of subsequent keyboard warrioring?

I listened to a junior doctor (around 30 years old) on the radio this morning complaining he could barely survive on £56k – his wife was also a junior doctor so that makes £112k. Presumably in a few years they’ll both be consultants probably on a combined income of £200k – can’t say I felt much sympathy for him. Even if they’re both working long hours so do lots of people with no prospect of ever earning that sort of money. They should stop moaning and get on with it.

1hr 10mins in:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06hk68b

lodders earlier

BBC news here comparing doctor’s pay to other professions.

If the junior doctors want to to OzLand or NZ … go coz we are not stopping you.

In the meantime the doctors from OzLand and NZ etc want to come here and yes we shall welcome them with open arms. 😀

Ah the politics of envy.

“Boo hoo. These people paid attention in school and now earn more money than me so they shouldn’t complain, no matter how badly screwed over they are getting.”

What’s keyboard warrioring or trolling got to do with it? The idea of doctors being on strike over ‘pay’ and conditions is laughable. Steel miners in the north east recently lost their jobs, probably with little to no prospect of re-employment and possible losses of homes due to not being able to pay their mortgage. Family break ups relating to such issues. No prospects in a bleak economic area with few transferable skills and little education. Christmas coming. Them I feel incredibly sorry for. Doctors? Get a **** grip on reality.

But of course that obviously makes me a ‘troll’. I can live with that.

I assume the OP has read all the arguments in the other thread and decided there are arguments that require a different thread?

Poor little taxi driver should have studied a bit harder the would realize how much bloody hard work being a doctor actually is. Then we might listen to his comments. As it is, he’s making himself look very silly and it might be a good time to step away from the keyboard.

aracer – Member

lodders earlier

Aracer eerrmm … that’s a Cyclops. 🙄

Steel miners? are they like blutacksmiths?

The idea of doctors being on strike over ‘pay’ and conditions is laughable.

They are NOT striking to ask for more pay. They are threatening to strike over a change to their contracts which results in a 30% PAY CUT to some.

Even if you don’t care about that, the conditions they are protesting about may directly effect whether your future involves an overly-tired junior doctor making a mistake and killing you.

Or indeed whether a public health service survives at all!

The terms from the The BMA:

The BMA wants the following concrete assurances in writing from the Government before we can agree to re-enter negotiations:

• Proper recognition of unsocial hours as premium time
• No disadvantage for those working unsocial hours compared to current system
• No disadvantage for those working less than full time and taking parental leave compared to the current system
• Pay for all work done
• Proper hours safeguards protecting patients and their doctors

All seems pretty reasonable, no?

Steel miners in the north east recently lost their jobs, probably with little to no prospect of re-employment and possible losses of homes due to not being able to pay their mortgage.

Classic Whatabouterry.

How dare you earn money when there are people starving in Africa.
What about those Syrian refugees eh?

I tell you one thing, I bet not one of those unemployed steel miners wishes that the NHS didn’t exist and they had to pay for medical treatment.

Family break ups relating to such issues.

Yes they do.

Family break ups also happen when it is no longer feasible for a partner to work less than full time and his/her “sociable working hours” have been redefined to 7am till 10pm Monday to Saturday

Yeah, but you can prove anything with facts.

James hunt said it best ” – its very simple – hunt , it rhymes with ****”

Its almost self fulfilling.

http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/doctors-on-strike

Just to save going around in circles.