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  • one bike to rule them all?
  • jedi
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    for a while now i have had a hankering for a bike that i can do all work on.
    i cant decide. quite like the bottlerocket, scott genius and ransom but also cant get it out my head that i already have the tool for the job, the hummer and demo9

    arrggghhhhh
    i even thought about the orange blood.
    i haven't had a want for a bike in years as was happy i have the bikes i need but it's in my head now….

    then again, it's not about the bike

    firestarter
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    tony i'll throw in a ragley ti then run away 😉

    mrmichaelwright
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    juan
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    The meta 5.5 is very very capable bike too… Light but with a very good rear suspension. A bit more gravity associated is the meta 6.

    james
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    "meta 5.5 is very very capable bike too… Light "
    Light?
    The frame weight is about 7.5lbs (for a 140mm QR dropout frame, known to have a problem with cracking)?

    A Kona Abra Cadabra looks pretty versatile (or the magic link coilair version)

    the_lecht_rocks
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    nicolai Helius AM perhaps ?
    174 / 162 / 154 / 146 mm of adjustable travel on 57mm stoke shocks.
    160 / 150 / 140 / 130 mm of adjustable travel on 51mm stoke shocks.

    adjustable levers can offer either a 3:1 or 2.4:1 leverage ratio.

    tough as a tank.

    buildable into a 28.5lb trail masher or 33lb alpine thrasher.

    options options options.
    colours colours colours.

    the weight won't put you off after the demo 9.

    i fail to see anything else out there that's so adaptable, customisable or plain capable for the weight / travel offered.

    i s'pose i'm a bit of a fanboy.

    thoughts ?

    jedi
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    mike, i got a hummer already

    scott_mcavennie2
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    I don't really want bikes, then I had a blast on jay's Orange blood, then Col sent me a link to a bottle rocket on ebay and I started to feel the odd yearning.

    Luckily for me, we are getting evicted soon as the landlady is selling up so we have to save and try to buy. 🙂

    I'd go for the blood. Seemed to ride as well as a bottle rocket for less money and less weight.

    dropoff
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    I have a Stiffee and a Devinci Ollie what I can't do on one I can do on t'other. You already know the answer to your question 🙂

    the_lecht_rocks
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    i also should clarify i have the helius AM and a Ti456 and a singlespeeded Hummer………

    oh dear…….

    but i'd have the helius over them all i guess if i had to have only one bike……

    huws
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    If the offer still stands from the other place (thread about Esher shore) you're welcome to have a go on my Blood (15", coil sprung) to see if it suits. It really is bloomin' ace.

    Huw

    juan
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    James yes it's light. Mine is at 14.3kg with proper mtb kit some of it being rather heavy too). It is light for a real mtb (you can ride it down mountains).

    However I concur on your choice of kona.

    jedi
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    huws, of course it stands!

    juan
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    Jedi if you come down for a course I'll let you have a go at mine 😉

    coogan
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    i s'pose i'm a bit of a fanboy.

    There's an understatement if ever there was one! :mrgreen:

    jedi
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    down where juan?

    mrmichaelwright
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    you still got the Blade tony?

    huws
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    of course it stands!

    Sweet. Bring sunglasses. She's no shrinking violet.

    jedi
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    yeah odf course i got the blade still 🙂

    james
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    "It is light for a real mtb (you can ride it down mountains"
    That may be, but what other 140mm travel (QR dropout, non piggiback air shocked) FS frames are heavier?

    Rickos
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    I've gone right off front mechs. They spoil the lines of a nice bike and don't help with chain tension and rattling, banging chains – silence is nice! Looking forward to trickle down of 10 speed cassettes, then you could have a do it all bike with just a swap of wheels. Something like the Nicolai mentioned above or an Intense Tracer – that kinda thing.

    backhander
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    Knolly endorphin with a set of 36s or lyrics. It's their trail bike but can be built burly if needed.
    Should be strong enough for a rider of your calibre.

    mk1fan
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    Mine is at 14.3kg with proper mtb kit

    My Hustler weighs in at almost a kilo lighter in Alpine mode – including a Gravity Dropper and DH Maxxis tyres.

    Answering the OP – a Hustler.

    jackal
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    Yeh the bottlerocket would be a good choice, proper bombproof all rounder, my mate loves his.

    But, i've tried the one bike for everything before, and at the end of the day it'll be a compromise, and I ended up going back to more than one bike.

    I've now settled for;
    -A dh bike (built up reasonably light)
    -A 140mm travel f/s with double and bash, light enough to ride all day but strong enough to take some hammer.
    -And a bmx

    With those three i'm pretty happy, but still miss my cotic bfe…

    So, i'd say stick as you are, or just buy a bottlerocket as well 😉

    Bushwacked
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    [lurker comment] Oooh Nicolai :0 [/lurker comment]

    jedi
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    i cant have a light dh bike for herts shore, it needs to be bomb proof!
    i was going to keep the hummemr and demo9 for my non work riding 🙂

    juan
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    now mkfan I don't want to say your scale might be a bit wrong, but if you factor a gravity and a pair of DH tires, that's 1 kg more that my seat post and my tires.
    It means you save 2 kg on the over all build. I think I have gone as light as it's reasonable to go. You could probably shade 200g of the crank, another 200 of the fork, (getting a float one) and maybe 150 g off the pedal and the same off the brakes. You still need to get one KG somewhere else. So unless the frame is 1 kg lighter (which i doubt) you may have got something too light for my liking (and i may be wrong) somewhere critical…

    fontmoss
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    i cant have a light dh bike for herts shore, it needs to be bomb proof!

    maybe one bike can't rule them all in your case then?

    Bushwacked
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    Just to stir it up – not saying it isn't a good bike but is the Bottlerocket really a do it all bike? Looks very DH / Freeride orientated or that end of the spectrum.

    Wouldn't a Blur LT be worth considering? or perhaps a Heckler?

    jackal
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    jedi – Member
    i cant have a light dh bike for herts shore, it needs to be bomb proof!
    i was going to keep the hummemr and demo9 for my non work riding

    Ahh right, if it's for that sort of north shore/play about/jumpy/teach other people to ride bike then get a freakin bottlerocket 😉

    jedi
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    fontmoss, one bike for all my coaching work!

    whippersnapper
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    ….I'd be tempted by a Corsair Marque, there's something about them that has me wanting. However, I have no idea what it would compare to bikes like the Blood etc

    fontmoss
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    oh I see! well id guess most of the time you're on a hardtail and can still lead them comfortably? if so id say keep yer bits and invest in some custom geometry-some indy fab would be a-mazing

    could always be cheeky and see if you can get in the grassroots team?

    j-claw
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    Read about this here.

    djglover
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    When we went to see Nigel page he had an Intense 6.6 I think, so I think the suggestions around that area have some merit, something with 6 ins travel air shocks and c2.3 tyres

    jedi
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    jclaw, rode one and its wayyyy too short

    j-claw
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    Get the long then!
    The Coastal Crew seem to do OK on theirs (short) & Dylan is a big guy.
    No option for a front mech, but I think they're an ideal UK play bike.
    Light & jumpy with an air shock & fork, throw on a coil shock & some longer forks & you can ride Whistler all day on one 😀

    jimmy
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    I just actually paid attention to what the Yeti ASR-5 does. Its on order. That will be my do-everything bike and I think it will.

    We sell them at thebikechain.co.uk by the way, but thats not why I chose it 😉

    jedi
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    dylan is a geezer.
    i think i may just get a new fork for the hummer 🙂

    fontmoss
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    i think i may just get a new fork for the hummer

    bah if you're not going to indulge the lust don't tease!

    [get an indy fab]

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