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Well obviously you are with your petty "it has to be a British plane" attitude.
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You lot must be amazing riders, the fervour and passion you are devoting to this thread is incredible and seeing as its on an mtb forum I am assuming that you do extend these kind of energies to actually riding bikes and not just having ridiculous arguments with people you probably dont even know about events which none of you will ever influence. You do ride bikes don't you?
I love Spitfires they are ace, but only with super tacky high rollers.
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Blockade - what, like the one the Germans tried on the British Isles?
Blimey Elfin, where were you when the Allies needed you?
I suppose the thousands of Allied PoWs in Japan would have survived this blockade too?
Bollocks to Japan. I'm happy that several members of my family were able to come back in one piece because the Japanese surrendered when they did.
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Sometimes feel the same if I see a Cruise missile flying by...the sheer accuracy...you just gotta admire it.
Actually yes, they're amazing things. Love the engineering in them.
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Don't you start Ernie. Try to contribute in a positive, constructive manner. Don't come one here trying to cause fights like you normally do.
Ah, Mr Pot, we've been expecting you, meet Mr Kettle
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Marzocchi 888's are nice.
*Better not say I like Bombers......*
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War = bad, warplanes = good - simple equations. Vulcans were produced just up the road and I used to love seeing them flying over when I was growing up. I also remember the space shuttle piggybacking on top of a commercial airliner flying over school, anyone remember that? Now that was cool!
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Yeah, if you were the type of human whose "soul" is "stirred" by machines, I guess the space shuttle could be considered cool. Your simple equations are bollocks though. How did you derive them?
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derived by not over-analyzing like most people on here seem to? War = bad. pretty self explanatory that one. i'm sure most war could've been avoided if people were more tolerant of each other.
Warplanes are just planes = drop the 'war' bit and it's just an amazing feat of engineering. even if war had never existed i'd imagine we'd still have planes like that in some form or another, it's human nature to build things that go like stink (not having missiles attached of course)
my soul does get stirred by machinery, same way i love classic cars, fast cars, motorbikes, megamachines on the discovery channel, tinkering with stuff in the garage to see why it's the way it is....but what do i know, i'm just a simpleton
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We'd still have cool stuff. It just wouldn't be designed to hurt people. I'm sure you're not a simpleton though. Sorry, my equations comment was a bit direct. Sorry, I take it back.
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The thing is, the design is born out of the need.
Would we really have needed to design such a small, fast, agile, single seat aeroplane as a Spitfire in the late 1930s if there wasn't a war looming? I think not.
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We'd still have cool stuff. It just wouldn't be designed to hurt people. I'm sure you're not a simpleton though. Sorry, my equations comment was a bit direct. Sorry, I take it back.
that's kind of the point i was trying to make in a roundabout way (loikes I said - i'm a simpleton
) no offense taken !
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Would we really have needed to design such a small, fast, agile, single seat aeroplane as a Spitfire in the late 1930s if there wasn't a war looming? I think not
It's basically the Supermarine Schneider Cup air race plane/design with 8 Brownings on it..... IIRC RJ Mitchell never got to see it go to war.....
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Hiroshima and Nagasaki were terrible events, but nowhere near as unpleasant as what the Japanese unleashed on mainland China.
It saved the lives of tens of thousands Allied troops who did not die as a result of having to invade Japan. That makes it worthwhile. It probably also saved 100s of thousands of Japanese lives as well. Unpleasant but true
As posted above, I think this view is fairly contentious these days. The US use of nuclear strike on Japan was aimed fair and square at Stalin, whose armies were massed on the Manchurian border at the time - externally, it was all about establishing the post war hegemony. Internally it was about the ascendancy of US air power and LeMay wanting to carve out a role for strategic bombing in an independent armed service...
... and yes, that opinion is partly based on the content of Hastings "Nemesis"
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In response to the tag above, 'why does Elf always ruin everything'; well, I don't think that's fair. All I've done is express my opinion, which I believe I'm entitled to do. I've expressed myself quite clearly, and feel I've made some valid points. Vindicated by the fact that at least one person understood what I was saying:
PeterPoddy - Member
You know, I think you might be right. Point well made.
If you read my posts carefully, you'll find that I have no problem at all in seeing the Spitfire as a remarkable feat of design and engineering, and also a symbol of hope and bravery against tyranny and evil. So I hardly think I've ruined the thread. The fact that some folk have found my comments uncomfortable isn't because they were designed to be insulting or abusive, but to question the opinions and attitudes of others. I do feel that War is too often glorified by people who have no concept of what it really means, and was merely trying to make the point that we should all consider the totality of war, and maybe not be so selective with our perspective of it.
I've aslo had no problem in expressing my views in an open and honest manner here. Yet some have chosen to use the Tags as a means of making snide comments about me.
The good thing about this forum, is that people can express themselves openly and honestly, but must also accept that their views may be challenged. I have no problem with this, but it seems that others do, sadly.
Hey ho.
Ultimately, Spitfire = good, in my book. I don't feel the same way about other pieces of military hardware, because I don't view them in the same context. I think I'm entitled to that view.
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Dr Strangelove anyone?
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Best engine noise ever.
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Vindicated by the fact that at least one person understood what I was saying:
PeterPoddy - Member
You know, I think you might be right. Point well made.
I agree..
And why is elfs viewpoint any less important or interesting than the OP's..? Or any other contributers to the thread..?
OP likes warplanes... posts a pic.. fair enough..
Another contributer is then reminded of a different warplane.. posts a pic.. fair enough..
Another contributer (elf) as a result is reminded of the horrors of war.. posts a pic.. also fair enough..Posted 1 year ago # -
Elfinsafety - Member
I don't feel the same way about other pieces of military hardware
But yet you get all excited at the sight of factory chimneys...... 'cause you reckon they are well cool.
Of course you don't stop and think how these dark satanic workplaces have mercilessly exploited the toiling proletariat which have created vast profits for their greedy money-grabbing owners........git
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I quite like the look of wind turbines.
That's until I stop to think what a waste of resources they are.
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...back to the original point, what you want is one of these:
http://www.wonderlandmodels.com/products/parkzone-supermarine-spitfire-mk2-rtf/
got one on my RC model flight sim, so spent a while last night doing split Ss (the classic Spit thing where they roll and dive) on that.Posted 1 year ago # -
Reminds me of the time a bloke joined our cycling club and kept on about his flying club until we realized he meant toys like this !! couldn't help laughing when he said it after that because we never told him we knew what sort of flying he meant!!
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Still the nearest any of us is likely to get to flying a spit!
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unless you are Ewan Mcgregor's brother!!
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Was the Vulcan bomber ever actually deployed in anger?
"Effin Scaley", you are numpty of the highest order!
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Considering your own opinions on things, Spongebob, I think I'll take that as a compliment, thanks!
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It was in falklands.
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DD, let's not forget that they bombed Bristol...
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DD, let's not forget that they bombed Bristol...
I'm not Bristolian though
To be honest, with some of what's been built here in the last five years, I wish they'd do it again. Starting with the Eastern European style apartment blocks at Canon's Wharf (or whatever it's called).
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It's basically the Supermarine Schneider Cup air race plane/design with 8 Brownings on it..... IIRC RJ Mitchell never got to see it go to war.....
I'm well aware of that. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Supermarine made sea planes did they not? And the Spit was based on one of those. so, it would have stayed as a gopping sea plane if not for Mitchell seeing the coming of WW2 and turning it into the Spitfire....
Thanks for proving my point.
Obviously the same family, but which do we all recognise, eh?
And I never said he did.
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Not sure what the plane above is, but the Spit was apparently based on the Supermarine S5. Try Googling that, but I'll warn you, keep the eye bleach handy!Posted 1 year ago # -
To be honest, with some of what's been built here in the last five years, I wish they'd do it again.
Amen.
You're Irish, iirc? Unternehmen Grün - Göring wanted an airbase, so he did.
Good job it never came to that.
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DD, let's not forget that they bombed Bristol...
They should bomb Ashton Gate
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Did you not see the recent series of Coast on the Beeb noteeth? All the secret coding for Allied planes on the West Coast. And the "air corridor" that cut across "neutral" airspace from the SW of Ulster to the Atlantic ocean. We were far from "neutral"...so we were.
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Did you not see the recent series of Coast on the Beeb noteeth?
Unless it's a section presented by Alice Roberts, I just look at the pretty pictures.
But yes, plenty of hush-hush assistance offered to the Allies, so it was.
Sidenote: I am always struck (metaphorically, of course) by that piece of rail sticking out from the churchyard of St Mary Redcliffe.
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