Spitfire, its always a special occassion.
Beautiful, Glorious, Awesome.
A moment ago, one flew by, over the city centre.
Just amazing, never fails to impress me.
That is all.
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It is always one of those
Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of Earth
moments
And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wingsPosted 1 year ago # -
Yeap, something like that.
They're just wonderful to see and to hear, imo.
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Saw a Spitfire and a Lancaster bomber overhead a couple of weeks ago, real goosebump moment.
Something very stirring about that sight, I'm honestly not that old, but I wonder if the younger generation will have the same feelings.
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Indeed, nothing like seeing a machine designed by man to kill and destroy flying by. Really gives me a lump in my throat it does. Makes me hark back to the days when men were men. Kids these days, they'll never know the glory of valiant death, will they? Sometimes feel the same if I see a Cruise missile flying by...the sheer accuracy...you just gotta admire it.
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Ah well Darcy we would all be speaking Kraut if it hadn't been for the Spitfire and the Hurricane and some brave men killing baddies!!
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Deadly, you have no soul.
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How about a list of countries with corrupt despotic Governments to nuke.I will start with
Myanmar.
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Hmmm...
I'm sort of with DD on this one. I've just seen 4 modern jets roar across London. Not exactly sure why, BoB commemoration or something? Can't see why modern jets are appropriate in that context really.
Spitfires though, I can appreciate as they symbolise the bravery of so many people in repelling the Nazi air attack. I don't get all sentimental very them like some on here do, but I can appreciate the sacrifices made by people so that we can live in a free society now.
Whilst I can appreciate the engineering and technology that goes into military hardware, I don't think glorifying it is particularly healthy. It's a weapon, it's not something nice. It's designed and constructed to kill as efficiently as possible. I'm not going to celebrate that. People get all worked up over Vulcan bombers. Sure, it's a beautiful looking plane, but it was developed to deliver proper nasty super-destructive nuclear weapons. I won't cry if they never flew again.
Interestingly, if someone has a fascination with guns, they're seen as a bit of a nut-job. But the same fascination of military aircraft seems acceptable...
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I will follow up myanmar with....
The UK..
it never ceases to amaze me how they have so sneakily managed to convince the moronic populace that they are lving in a fair and just democracy.. when in reality the exact opposite is true..
10 out of 10
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I wondered how soon the UK would take to get posted!!
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Freedom is relative...
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proper nasty super-destructive nuclear weapons
Well there is no point having one that doesn't do it properly!!
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Ah well Darcy we would all be speaking Kraut
No we wouldn't...but there wouldn't be such a difference between American and UK English
Deadly, you have no soul.
I couldn't agree more
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Kids these days, they'll never know the glory of valiant death, will they?
I know you are just doing your usual thing, DD... but come on.
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It's not about them being killing machines, it's about the sacrifice. Not sure if collectively we'd have the spine to stand up and be counted in a similar situation nowadays. Much more likely to whinge about the invading forces on a forum.
Modern military machines just give me the willies and make me despair that little has been learned in the intervening years. Now it's the Jews committing war crimes ffs!
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Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori:
mors et fugacem persequitur virum
nec parcit inbellis iuventae
poplitibus timidove tergo.Posted 1 year ago # -
Not sure if collectively we'd have the spine to stand up and be counted in a similar situation nowadays
I'm not so sure... if the invading horde was massing on the shores of France I think people would leap for their pitchforks/kitchen knives/pickaxe handles.. we've all got loved ones that we would unthinkingly unleash our inner hero to protect..
I think the apathy and cynicism is more to do with faraway battles being fought for spurious reasons at the behest of untrustworthy leaders..
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This grooves my truffles more. Imposing indeed - UK nuclear deterrent from 50s- 'til introduction of the Polaris submarines - the Avro Vulcan and its 400 kiloton "bucket of sunshine."
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Does this 'groove your truffle', derek?
'Bucket of Sunshine'. Yeah, I'm sure they call it that in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
(If anyone is offended by these images, then I apologise if the reality of war is abhorrent and upsetting. I feel these images are relevant in the context of this discussion, however)
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Elf - that isn't a discussion. It is a comment and observation by yourself. AKA an over reaction to my posting a picture of the bomber that prevented, through its deterrent role, the cold war becoming an extremely hot one.
BTW I am particularly impressed by the fire retardant properties demonstrated by that shirt in the last pic.
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noteeth - Member
I know you are just doing your usual thing, DD... but come on.
Eh? My "usual" thing? You must be thinking about someone else fella.
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BTW I am particularly impressed by the fire retardant properties demonstrated by that shirt in the last pic.
Oh is that meant to be a joke? I am sorry, I must lack a sense of humour for not finding the horrific suffering of other funny...
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Haha, this has quite amused me to be honest. It's a mountain bike forum, nothing to get your heckles up about...
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It's a mountain bike forum, nothing to get your heckles up about...
awwww... how cute.. you're new here aren't you..?
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Well, reasonably new. I just love the way a post about loving the sight of a Spitfire descends into pictures of people dying due to nuclear attacks. You couldn't make it up. Except someone just did.
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I just love the way a post about loving the sight of a Spitfire descends into pictures of people dying due to nuclear attacks.
Attention seekers with nothing better to do usually.
Look - here's one now
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Well, reasonably new. I just love the way a post about loving the sight of a Spitfire descends into pictures of people dying due to nuclear attacks. You couldn't make it up. Except someone just did.
I think the point DD was trying to make originally, was to do with the glorification of weapons of destruction, by people who haven't a clue what war is actually about, and who will chose to ignore the reality whenever it's presented to them. A bit like children playing with guns/toy warplanes.
'Yeah aren't warplanes great?'
They do things like this. (Warning: Very shocking and disturbing images. Don't click if you don't want to see images of horrific injuries and mutilation)
'Oh no you're so mean don't do that'.
Attention seekers with nothing better to do usually.
Or, people who really don't think the glorification of war is something we should accept so lightly.
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Good Lord, some people can't even handle their views being questioned; God knows how they'd handle war.
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Haha, this just gets better.
Are you Chris Morris in disguise?
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Oh, and BTW; the pics of victims of atomic bomb strikes were in response to someone getting all doe-eyed over a Vulcan bomber, nowt to do with Spitfires. But hey, feel free to take things completely out of context if you think it helps your argument.
Are you Chris Morris in disguise?
Why, are you Alan Partridge?
Loving the irony of someone using the anonymity of the Tags to accuse me of being a coward, btw...
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Fred, you said it best when you said this:
Spitfires though, I can appreciate as they symbolise the bravery of so many people in repelling the Nazi air attack.
I got narked at DD's comment because, as you say, something (designed to kill) can indeed symbolise extraordinary acts of bravery, by a generation who saw more of death than most on this forum will ever know. Many of whom didn't come back.
By virtue of my location, I've had the privilege of helping to look after a fair number of mechanics and factory types who worked on Spitfires (and the rest). And whilst most felt some kind of affection for the machines, I never heard any of them glorify what it meant to fight the Luftwaffe. Most seemed haunted by the horror of it - ground crew waiting for planes that never returned.
No need to bring cruise missiles into it - although there certainly won't be much left to remember after the apocalypse.
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I watched a fantastic programme last night called 'spitfire girls'. They were glamourous women of the 1940's who delivered all sorts of aircraft from old bi-planes to the up to the moment large bombers during the war.
Out of every 10 pilots there was one fatality amongst these air transport auxillary girls.
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