This could be interesting (from Brant’s twittings)

The drawing of the El Guapo Carbon 29 has 140mm of rear travel

Also

Unfortunately it also has a 78deg seat angle. This isn’t going well.

Kingdom bike have a 140mm travel carbon 29er out soon too.

Its not got a 78 degree seat angle tho !

I think the Titus is a little more likely to happen….

just needs the standard 29er bend in the seat tube…

I’ve got it to 130mm with a 73deg seat angle and clearance for 2.5in tyres now.
Still fettling.

just needs the standard 29er bend in the seat tube…

that’s the one thing I didn’t want.

Much easier if I do that. But I have a straight (forward offset a bit) one right now.

Will the main pivot still have the same bearing size that motolites/racerx etc had over the years?

Tbh I reckon 120mm out back would be more than enough (especially if you can keep the chainstays under 18″) with 120/140 upfront.
Despite just buying a 140mm 29er fork, I’m not totally convinced it’d be any better than a 26″ 140mm bike for grrr/tech stuff (that said the Lenz works quite well).
As long as it gets to market before the 10-4 😉

Oh,i hear a few folk yapping in my earpiece…

One of them asks if the rear end can be split in two with a choice of 2 separating spacers to enable 2.5″ tyres along with those 29×4″ tyres you`ll be designing in the not so distant future? :O)

Rors, i would be happy with 100/120!

how many folk have ridden a long travel 29r? how many are gonna sell?

i built my ventana up with a 140mm white bros fork, gravity dropper post, 200mm rotor/saints, kris holm rimmed dh strength wheels and 2.5 tyres.
on anything other than steep downhills it was a absolute pig to ride.
far too sluggish/heavy.

not many people are gonna be suited to a long travel 29r.

Will any be suited to long travel 29ers,ton?

I could see it humouring out with a happy medium of 130 up front and 100 at the back as the nations fav.

What’s long though?
My RIP9 has 120 front and back. It’s an excellent climber and I have no issues riding all day in Wales.
I’m not pretending to be fit either.

Ton, you can easily build a 29lb 140/130 FS 29er even with robust parts, e.g hope v2s, flow rims/ardent 2.4s, fox 34 140, reverb even with a pretty heavy frame. And that’s not too heavy for an all day bike. I expect mine to,come in at 30lb with a hammerschmidt too incl. pedals.

A 29er 34 140 fork is only 200g heavier than its 26″equivalent, rims only 100g each heavier, spokes another 50 or so. So overall should be no more than a pound heavier than a similar travel 26″.

Kris Holmes are wide and strong but at 850g hellish heavy, 2.5 DH tyres the same between them adding probably 4lbs over what could still be a tough set up.

Nothing wrong with a 140mm travel 29er. My large Tracer 29 runs quite happily with 800g non DH tyres and Flow rims. I do have a pair of WTB Dissents if things do get rocky but I’ve not really needed them yet.

Weighs around 33lbs

Hmmmm, tracer, niiiiice!

I have tried what ton describes with my ventana, but it was really not enough travel for what I was using it for, and turned it into a useless pig (too heavy for normal riding, not ‘big’ enough for proper AM).

I have a NP mega with 180 forks and that gets me down the really rough stuff/alps days.

I would love a proper LT 29er, bit more than 140 at the back, 160 at the front, but to me the limiting factor is lack of decent forks.

I just love the way a 29er rolls, but sometimes you need a lot more travel than is currently available, hence why I built the mega.

i still seriously consider getting the 180 36 talas forks modded to be 160 forks that would accept 29er wheels, and put them in a Tracer T29, but it,s just a bit risky.

So Brant, design away, but get us a set of proper 29er 160mm forks that aren’t horribly noodly please. that would be my absolute ultimate alpine AM machine. WANT! 😆

All IMHO of course.

Kev