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Following on from the Citizen Four Thread:
http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/psa-citizenfour-on-channel-4-at-1105-tonight
I've just read an article about [url= https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/03/04/new-zealand-gcsb-surveillance-waihopai-xkeyscore/ ]New Zealands role in Mass Surveillance[/url]
It turns out that it's not just the UK and USA spying on everyone, but Australia, Canada and New Zealand
This all comes under the [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes ]5 Eyes Alliance[/url]
What strikes me about all of this is that as [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_realm ]Commonwealth Realms[/url] 4 of the 5 Eyes are under the authority of the Queen...
Even the armed forces of [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Defence_Force ]Australia[/url], [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Armed_Forces ]Canada[/url] and [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand_Defence_Force ]New Zealand[/url] all swear allegiance to the Queen and are ultimately under her authority.
What's more, it seems [url= http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/01/15/queen-veto-war-powers_n_2477422.html ]the Queen still holds ultimate authority over whether to declare war[/url]:
The Queen also vetoed entirely a private member's Bill, the Military Actions Against Iraq (Parliamentary Approval) Bill 1999, that would have transfered the power to authorise military strikes against Iraq from the monarch to Parliament
So:
a) Just how many armies and intelligence services does the Queen have authority over?
b) Does this mean that Tony Blair isn't the only one to blame for the Iraq War?
Where does the queen keep her armies?
Up her sleevies.
a) Just how many armies and intelligence services does the Queen have authority over?b) Does this mean that Tony Blair isn't the only one to blame for the Iraq War?
Do your own research.
*yawn*
Are you really so dim that you believe that the Queen actually controls the armed forces, secret services and governments that act in her name?
The ability to Veto things is NOT the same as the amity to control the armed forces. So the answer to your first question is none and the second, probably not but the Queen isn't one if them.
Are you really so dim that you believe that the Queen actually controls the armed forces, secret services and governments that act in her name?
[url= http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/royal-family-granted-new-right-of-secrecy-2179148.html ]Are you really so dim as to believe she doesn't[/url]?
[quote=MoreCashThanDash ]Are you really so dim that you believe that the Queen actually controls the armed forces, secret services and governments that act in her name?
Are you really so dim as to ask that question?
I have some sympathy with a lot of what you wish to publicise jhj, but this is absolute bollocks even by your standards.
Jack Charlton in the Council of 13, whodthunkit?
Is that Mark Cavendish in the council of 13? You'd think he'd win more races...
My mate was in the Royal Marines & he said the queen often used to come round telling them what to do. So I think JHJ is right.
What strikes me about all of this is that as Commonwealth Realms 4 of the 5 Eyes are under the authority of the Queen...
Queen doesn't have any authority.
And in any case - this is hardly surprising if you think a little bit more carefully than you seem to be.
Commonwealth countries often have closer ties to the UK, for obvious historical reasons. So it's to be expected that they'd be close allies and hence work closely with us.
jivehoneyjive - Member
So:a) Just how many armies and intelligence services does the Queen have authority over?
b) Does this mean that Tony Blair isn't the only one to blame for the Iraq War?
Yet, they cannot have death penalty here? ๐
Queen doesn't have any authority.
I feel like a smug Stephen Fry on QI...
Time for some reading molgrips:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Crown
I've still got to look into why the United States is mentioned in there...
My mate was in the Royal Marines
Not in one of the Queen's [s]airmiles[/s] [s]armadillos[/s] armies, then.
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So the Queen calls up and says bomb France, they smell guess what common sense kicks in.
In other news the pope is really jewish and Putin is a bear with a lifetime supply of Immac
MoreCashThanDash ยป Are you really so dim that you believe that the Queen actually controls the armed forces, secret services and governments that act in her name?
Oh, he most certainly is yes.
Of that there is no doubt at all !
In his mind, she is like a megalomaniac Bond villain, constantly starting wars, ruling all the worlds governments with an iron fist, living in a volcano hideout, with a pool of sharks "with frikkin laser beams"
He saw a YouTube video about it all.
Can't remember seeing that video neal...
perhaps it's in your mind?
๐ ... what if the dog is actually in control in that picture?
It's a picture nobody is in control
I like you Jivers, you`re one of the most resilient people I have never met ๐
Keep up the good work and whatever you do, don`t let this lot wear you down !
You've got to admire the capability of our Royal family, I presume Prince Charles deals with the triffids.
I'm sorry but WTactualF??? This is the most ridiculous thing you've posted IMHO JHJ.
Thats quite a call there
I know it's not the done thing to laugh at the metally ill but sometimes it's hard not to! ๐
Two armies and two leggies I'd guess.
Are you really so dim that you believe that the Queen actually controls the armed forces, secret services and governments that act in her name?
Duh, obviously, otherwise Prince Philip wouldn't have been able to order the SAS to murder Diana in a Parisian underpass!
There was a David Icke thread only a few months ago wasn't there?
Duh, obviously, otherwise Prince Philip wouldn't have been able to order the SAS to murder Diana in a Parisian underpass!
I don't buy that. You'd hardly do it with all them photographers following would you, bound to get spotted. They'd do it when there was nobody around I reckon.
[url= http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/diana-just-a-car-crash-or-a-murder-mystery-428355.html ]Diana's death is an odd one...[/url]
There are a few points which raise questions, that haven't been adequately addressed by the inquest:
[b]The CCTV cameras[/b]There were more than 14 CCTV cameras in the Pont d'Alma underpass, yet none have recorded footage of the fatal collision.
Sources have claimed that they were turned to face the wall, or were simply switched off. The official French judicial enquiry into the crash was told that none of the cameras were working.
However, one motorist received a speeding ticket after being caught on a nearby camera 15 minutes before the accident.
[b]The Fiat Uno[/b]A white Fiat Uno was seen to collide with the Mercedes as it entered the tunnel. Unexplained white paint was later found on the car's wreckage, and part of a bumper and tail-light were found near the scene of the crash.
An exhaustive database search of 112,000 similar Fiats never found the elusive car, and no driver came forward.
[b]James Andason[/b]This French photographer, who had been following Diana and Dodi all Summer, was known to have owned a white Fiat Uno, which was sold and resprayed days after the crash. He was also a paid informant for both British and French intelligence, but insisted that he was not in Paris on the night of the accident.
Three years later, his charred remains were found in a locked car in remote farmland in the South of France.
[b]The bright light[/b]In her memoir Spies, Lies and Whistleblowers, the former Mi5 agent Annie Machon claimed Brtitish intelligence paid to have Diana killed by shining a bright light at the car after it entered the tunnel, to prevent Paul seeing.
The operation would have borne similarities to an identical Mi6 plot aimed at assassinating Slobodan Milosevich during the 1990s. However, as a murder technique it is hazardous.
'some eye-witnesses have reported seeing a white flash at the time of the collission'
[b]The emergency services[/b]One of the largest concerns about Diana's death has been the length of time it took to extract her from the wreckage of the Mercedes.
Some experts have suggested that the Princess might have been saved if she had been operated on more rapidly.
Then of course there is the [url= http://www.****/news/article-2407571/Princess-Diana-SAS-murder-claim--mad-think-says-SUE-REID.html ]testimony of SAS involvement[/url] from Soldier N
The verdict of the inquest was unlawful killing:
Oh for ****s sake now you've got him all hyper...
I'm sorry, a Fiat Uno vs a Mercedes?
I'll ask that again, a FIAT UNO vs a MERCEDES?
Have you ever actually seen a Fiat ****ing Uno? There's no wonder they found bits of one nearby, they shed body parts at the first sign of oxidisation! Europe was probably awash with enough pieces on road sides at that time to build a third world dictators entire motorcade. Including "ICBM"'s. And thats before you even raise the ridiculous question of which would win in a shoving match, let alone disappear from the scene under its own steam before anyone else found it.
'some eye-witnesses have reported seeing a white flash at the time of the collission'
Wow, wonder if any of the paps got it on came...
...oh.
Sorry, I forgot you went to Military School... Many SAS guys there?
There are few people I would advise to actually wear a tin foil helmet. However, JHJ is on that short list.
Relevance of my schooling?
Also not a military school per se, paid for out of the MOD budget rather than the DfE but no other involvement.
But yes, there were a couple of kids with dads in the SAS. Again, relevance?
[url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_Victoria_School ]It is the only school in the UK managed and funded by the Ministry of Defence[/url]
Patron: Duke of Edinburgh
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Yeah and? The family of the patron of my school had a massive hand in one of the biggest domestic terrorism plots - failed and I'm sure you have a theory on how only Fawkes was the one we remember...





