Imagine a supermarket
All the basket only tills and the self checkouts are broken and there's one till available:
If you're standing at the checkout, in a line of people with trolleys, and I walk in front of your trolley then push in because I'm carrying a basket and more mobile, it's different to me, earlier, walking down the last aisle faster than you and reaching the checkout first
(I'm not saying this is my opinion but I think this is probably how drivers (who don't cycle) feel)
Just want to add something here.
Biggest peice of advice i have taken and really glad i took it was to "take primary" road position as much as i can during my rides.
It really does pay to hold up traffic and piss of drivers rather than them pushing you, ie the cyclist into the drainage part of the road.
Kidding aside though, if you do take primary it is safer, but you WILL get abused to hell from drivers, something which i think needs to be addressed maybe through the DVLA and their exams.
Example of why,
Going down a road with a school nearby thus lots of badly parked cars along the road, both sides.
As i coming up the road traffic coming towards me, with a parked car ahead, i have plenty of time to get ahead of parked car before car ahead comes near....
As i do my "safty check" over shoulder before going around the parked car another car wizzing from behind me overtakes, but fails to do so properly ,thus has to pull in front of me and cutt me up thus blocking me into the parked car. 
This is what pisses me off a lot, taking primary position and still people try to push you off the road into the drains..
(I'm not saying this is my opinion but I think this is probably how drivers (who don't cycle) feel)sounds like it is your opinion, but whatever. Those car drivers who think that are pretty bloody shortsighted then aren't they? I odn't complain when a car safely overtakes on faster section (I even "take myself out of the traffic" on wide roads so as not to impede drivers behind me) why should they feel entitled to complain about filtering?
Do you still ride 1ft away from parked cars too? Thats the door zone and you don't want to ride there. If you do ride there then you'll be pissing off those drivers behind you. tricky eh?
The only problem with primary postion is no-one told the motorists, pretty bloody important step they missed out there, lots of drivers think you are just being a dick and trying to hold them up.
aye it is your opinion and I am not sure you can compare the supermarket to the open road. nonetheless lets run with it
Imagine when you try to overtake on the aisle [with a hand basket] you cannot because there is a large queue of trollies all blocking your way and you could easily pass them but you dont you just sit in the "queue" and wait your turn rather than use your mobility. Surely you are not one of those irritating types who has a hand baskets and squeezes through gaps my stationary trolley wont fit whilst I am stuck and impeded by other trolleys are you.
If someone with a trolley passes me [is gong faster than me] whilst i select which mung beans to buy [ always hard to find ] can i get annoyed because i just need too overtake then when they get stuck again- queue jumpers why can they just not wait
ETC
Passing a stationary car is nothing like queue jumping at a till and to try and compare the two is just poor thinking.
Just ride on the road and let us know what you do in a few years time.
sounds like it is your opinion, but whateverwot eva, indeed
I can see their view but, frankly, where I commute there are too few bikes to make a major difference. Dunno how I'd feel if I drove in London (then again, I hope I wouldn't be daft enough to try to drive in London if I lived & worked there)
I have never shouted at a cyclist, other than once (not really shouting at) to suggest he move out more from the kerb as drivers were taking the piss and endangering him
Those car drivers who think that are pretty bloody shortsighted then aren't they?shortsighted or not, you can't possibly believe that this is not a prevalent view, or at least that derision for cyclists is real and widespread ?
there is a large queue of trollies all blocking your way and you could easily pass them but you dont you just sit in the "queue" and wait your turn rather than use your mobility. Surely you are not one of those irritating types who has a hand baskets and squeezes through gaps my stationary trolley wont fit whilst I am stuck and impeded by other trolleys are youDepends - if they're all in line waiting for mung beans then (assuming the combined flatulence isn't overwhelming
) I'll wait behind them if I want beans too. If I wanted jaffa cakes further down, then yeah, I'll go through (that'd be real filtering though - where they're lined for one route and I'm intending to use another lane and route)
Just ride on the road and let us know what you do in a few years timeYou forgot to pat me on the head for full patropoints !
If the gutter is full of potholes, crap and unsuitable for riding as cyclists (rightly) say, why would I have gone onto it. If it's fine to ride in the gutter near the lights, why not elsewhere ? It just devalues the argument it expediency can override it
If I commuted by bike
If I was currently having a big poo the chair I'm sitting on would be very messy
Although I have pooed in the past, you'll be delighted to hear that I'm not doing so right now JY
Unfair - I actually hadn't seen your 1st response to me JY. I saw aracer's and off we went
Soz
Edited after ^^^^^^ edit
What do you mean you did not read me 
no probs
It is not illegal to filter and we are always part of the traffic and are not asking to rejoin itJust to give my view on that original point though:
What do you mean you did not read meI had to turn off that filter thingy before seeing your stuff
FWIW, I'm aware that my commuting views aren't "typical" - you should hear me crapping on about lights 
looks like a lot of waffle about nothing...
londoncyclist - MemberSiB, good that you are going to read cyclecraft but would be better if you were man enough to withdraw your first comment. The wriggling probably does not convince anybody.
Thats a bit nippy. He has been man enough to accept there might be a different way and to have a think about it and to read up. Thats good. Few of us are good at accepting we might have shortcomings
Few of us are good at accepting we might have shortcomings
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