Isn't it something like using your phone while driving is equivalent to being over drink drive limit a few times? In terms of concentration I believe
No, it's not.
It's nothing like that.
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equivalent to being over drink drive limit a few times
Not according to either of those articles no..
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One of my work colleagues is an appalling driver. speeds all the time and tailgates whilst using her phone.
The laws of averages caught up with her last week though when she got 6 points within 3 days. 47 in a 30 followed later by getting done for using her phone whilst speeding on the motorway.
Only the fact it wasn't traffic that stopped her on the motorway let her escape without another speeding charge as well.
Strangely, as yet, her driving hasn't changed. I predict a ban in the next couple of years.
Obviously 3 pts isn't enough of a deterrent. Maybe 6 pts meaning drivers caught once would be one step away from a ban would work.
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there's some published stuff suggestng that hands-free is pretty much as dangerous as hand-held - supposedly it's the concentration that's lost rather than ability to physically control the car
tbh I'm still waiting for them to ban manual cars, its in the same vein. And I go back to the fact that there are an awful lot of drivers who really are just crap.
Different thing, it the concentration of holding a conversation with someone who is not with you
I'd be interested to hear how they suggest passengers, particularly children, come up score-wise on that test though - and there's no way they'd ban that.
A distraction (especially kid) but apparently its the way we interact with people on the phone is very different to if they are in the car and the way the people on the other end of the phone talk to the driver is different.
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It is concluded that driving behaviour is impaired more during a phone conversation than by having a blood alcohol level at the UK legal limit (80mg / 100ml).
Wouldn't know, never driven when over the limit - have you, or are you just guessing and/or making up facts?
Neither, I just use my eyes and read something......
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faz083 » Isn't it something like using your phone while driving is equivalent to being over drink drive limit a few times?
A Study » It is concluded that driving behaviour is impaired more during a phone conversation than by having a blood alcohol level at the UK legal limit (80mg / 100ml).
faz083 » ....I just use my eyes and read something......
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So did you deliberately Embelish what the study actually concluded then ?Or did you go looking for it to back a statement you had already made, and that was the closest thing you could find maybe.
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So did you deliberately Embelish what the study actually concluded then ?
Or did you go looking for it to back a statement you had already made, and that was the closest thing you could find maybe.
It doesn't really matter does it. The executive summary clearly shows that driving performance is significantly imparied while trying to have a mobile phone conversation; in fact it's worse than being at the legal limit.
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Ah ok.
So not like being "a few times" over the legal limit then.
Glad we cleared that up..
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Not pedantic at all.
To say that having a conversation while driving is the same as driving a few times over the drink drive limit is utter bollx.
It's not in the slightest bit pedantic to point that out.
Shame really because that pic would have been funny if you had saved for a time when it was relevant
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never mind driving whilst using the phone, what about the idiots that READ while driving?
Friday afternoon 4.30pm ish, I was heading home up the M1 near Leeds. Red MX5 passes me & I glance across to see a multi-page A4 document on the steering wheel, driver looking down not ahead. so I pressed my horn, he looked around & carried on past me. about a mile later he'd slowed down so I then passed him. STILL reading. at 65 in the middle lane of the M1. d***head.
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That Direct Line link is interesting. And scary because so few drivers are aware of the findings...
I think cars have had so many safety features (for the occupants at least) built in now, that drivers are losing the feeling of vulnerability and their ability to judge the risk they are putting themselves and others under. I think very few of the drivers who cut me up on my 30mile ride this morning had any real intention or understanding they were putting me at risk...
I can't remember the source but someone worked out we have a level of risk we're comfortable with, and if we feel safe, we change our behaviour to take ourselves back to that level of risk. Hence people driving like idiots now cars are so much safer e.g. traction control and ABS...
We largely eradicated drink driving, which was widespread when I was a kid, partly through properly enforcing the law, sustained government communications, and making it socially unacceptable. Time to do this again, but with mobile phone use and general inconsiderate/dangerous driving
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Crazy Belgians - good idea though...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbjSWDwJILs&feature=player_embedded
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i know a company i used to work for has banned hands free and using a phone whilst driving is gross misconduct, obviously you have to be caught though.
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This might focus a few minds of people who use their phones whilst driving. Not getting insurance is potentially a major issue for most folk today (apart from those who don't care about insurance!)
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Crazy Belgians - good idea though...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbjSWDwJILs&feature=player_embedded
No seatbelt law in WaloonLand?
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From the comments under that Metro article:
What happens if two hearing impaired people are in a car "talking" to each other? Does using sign language which involves a lot of hand usage equate to breaking the law as at soem stage neither hand could be on the steering wheel
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Why can't people just turn the bloody things off, in most cases you don't have to be contactable every minute of the day
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I did have some chav on a 'ammaco' bso ride of the footpath the other week who was using his phone at night with no lights on the bike and wearing some dark coloured shell suit thing, I missed him by about a foot. He then proceeded to square up to me in front of the car, although his attitude did change somewhat when I got out and he realised I was about 2ft taller than him and was in the mood for some polite re-education lol
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I was about 2ft taller than him and was in the mood for some polite re-education lol
Are you familiar with the expression "the bigger they are, the harder they fall"? Posted 1 year ago # -
Going back many years when nothing was illegal
I used to go out with a girl who had a car - and as I only had motorbikes, which her dad banned her from - she drove.every time - without fail - she would do her makeup using the interior mirror, whilst operating the pedals and I would steer.
It was a good job the road from my place was a 3 mile straight
ahh… the 70s
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I had some cretin using his phone this week as i came out of my local Tesco - fool was careering around the carpark with one hand clamped to his ear and having an animated conversation - the type of driving where he accelerates hard, brakes, accelerates, brakes etc.
I was behind him on my bike as we got to the exit onto the main road and he was still on his phone.
I shouted "get off your effing phone!" and he looked startled, looked at me in his wing mirror and said "are you talking to me?""Yes, you are DRIVING!"
He put his phone down, wound his window up and meekly drove off!
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The 70s were more dangerous than you think jota
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