Damn you Specialized and your SCS standard!!

So I have a new Crux Pro frame sat in the LBS waiting to be built up. It is has just been explained to me that with this new SCS standard there is no rear hub currently available that will fit in the frame apart from the Roval one which currently won’t be available until next year!!!! So does anyone have any ideas before I set sómeone off with a lathe on the Hope hub that I was hoping to use?

Few ideas here http://forums.mtbr.com/specialized/diverge-anyone-962242-2.html and here http://www.bike-air.com/Specialized-Diverge-for-2015_10683630-11.html

Send it back as unfit for purpose unless they can supply a suitable hub?

Thanks Flashy that one link about the Diverge is just about what the plan is but being that is a QR hub and this a through axle hub we have the problem that the disc is way to close to the frame. So the plan is to cut away approx 2mm off the disc mounts. Yes Jam bo I could send it back but I really would like to ride it as it is a really nice frame apart from this problem. It seems from an engineering point of view it makes a lot of sense the implementation of it (ie compatibility)sucks.

This is interesting….

http://nextdevo.com/blog/2015/8/19/paypal

Yep, seen that, too. But 300 USD for an adapter???!! 😯

Well yes! Silly money. Was more thinking about the logic behind it.

If DT are making the stock hubs, though…..

I’m happy with my rear hub, but am going to rebuild it on a tubeless rim at some point, and then have a Hope on the front.

I’m not one to throw my toys out of the pram but if someone tried to sell me a frame that needed a hub which did not exist yet I’d walk away.

That is a massive liberty on the part of the manufacturer. I’d buy something else out of principle. In fact, I’m already boycotting Specialized MTB’s until they stop using those plastic BB’s that last 3 minutes.

I wouldn’t mind using a Roval rear hub but the problem is you can’t get them! Specialized have effectively knowingly sold me a frame knowing I won’t be able to use. The only option without bodging is buying their carbon wheel set for two and a half grand!!

Get on the phone to Specialized UK and demand trade price on whatever will fit as a goodwill gesture. It’s only fair isn’t it?

Get on the phone to Specialized UK and demand trade price on whatever will fit as a goodwill gesture. It’s only fair isn’t it?

Only problem is that I live in Germany. 🙂

It was the major thing putting me off their disc brake Tarmac, the fact that it would only take proprietary Roval wheels. Basically means you need two wheelsets in case one gets broken or needs a service.

Can’t just pop into any random bike shop or borrow a wheel off another bike.

Likewise discouraged me from the carbon Diverge like that owned by CFH of this parish.

Am I right in thinking this doesnt effect the Alu Diverge.

I have an A1 and was hoping to swap to Kinesis CX wheels to drop a bit of weight/go 11spd

Will I encounter this problem?

I’m not sure you can demand goodwill.

Am I right in thinking this doesnt effect the Alu Diverge.

I have an A1 and was hoping to swap to Kinesis CX wheels to drop a bit of weight/go 11spd

Will I encounter this problem?

No problems with the Alu Diverge.
I swapped the anchors Roval wheels mine came with for a set of Kinesis wheels as soon as i got it. Knocked a huge amount of weight off the bike!

I might have a hub that will solve the problem. White Industries CX11 – it’s a 130mm spaced disc hub, but can be converted to 142 thru axle. Ideally I’d like a frame to try it in, but that’s a bit tricky if you’re in Germany 🙁

So Specialzed are selling frames that need a special hub, that they won’t make for another year? REALLY? Send the thing back.

Words fail me that they could sell a frame with no hub. I suppose they can claim that they sold them as people might need them for crash replacements. What do you do if you bought the bike and break or lose a wheel?

Captain Flasheart can you add this as a PSA at the end of each post promoting the Diverge.

Seems that the bodge has worked! My good friend who is a Meister mechanic has put in a washer on the drive side that has pushed the cassette sufficently inwards to fit the rear mech. Now just need to shave off 2mm of the disc side (good job I didn’t go for centre lock hubs) and the disc issues should also be sorted. The overall hub is still a little wider than OEM but according to my resident expert well within the tolerances of the frame.

Just to clarify, there is a wheel available, you just don’t want to buy it. Or have I read that wrong?

Yes there is a wheel available but it’s the full carbon wheel set from Specialized that costs around 2500 euros which is more than the frame! The cheaper wheelsets are only available on complete bikes and the hubs won’t be available until the end of the year.

This all seems silly and a bit obvious to me, no matter how much I wanted a bike, if I had to start carving it up to be even able to ride it, it would be sent back and I’d buy a bike that I can ride.

What’s the warranty position gonna be now if it fails or cracks?

Some more news here…

2016 Specialized SCS 135mm disc brake thru axle design explanation & development story

Plenty of adapters on the way!

I’ve already spoken to Hope. 🙂