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  • Brainstorming about the On One 456 Steel Frame
  • bendedheadtube
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    A friend offered me a On One 456 Steel Frame. It is about 2 years old.
    What do i have to know about this frame.
    Weaknesses, Strength, Riding Style.

    clubber
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    weakness – a bit heavy, not a lot of chainring clearance

    strength – handling, price, tough

    style – pretty much anything except full on xc racing

    vinnyeh
    Full Member

    It was designed by Brant Richards. 😆

    Is it not cheap enough that you can’t buy it and find out for yourself (surely must be less than 100 quid), and sell on if you don’t like it?

    neilsonwheels
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    Its just a good frame. Nothing fancy but strong, good at climbing, great at going down and bundles of fun.

    bendedheadtube
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    @vinnyeh
    I had an “unsuccessful” project. I just don´t want to spend the last few month of summer for another project with a unhappy end.

    Is there enough clearance for a big rubber, like the schwalbe muddy mary 2.5
    What about the dropping capability?

    clubber
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    big clearance and no seat tube bottle cage so you can drop the post as far as you like.

    bendedheadtube
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    That sounds good.

    bendedheadtube
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    what is the “chainsucking”.
    I had a couple of google hits, where people are complaining about this phenomenon.

    paulosoxo
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    bendedheadtube – Member

    what is the “chainsucking”.

    it’s where people complain about their drive-train and blame it on the frame.

    bendedheadtube
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    so the chain drops to the “inner side” (Left side of the smallest Chainring)?
    Nothing uncommon, when the chainring is worn down.

    B.A.Nana
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    The chain issue with the frame is, the chainstay is so close to the chain rings that if the chain sucks or jumps off to the inside, it jams between the chainstay and chain rings, usually cosmetically damaging the chainstay. It’s not that big a deal really, bit of a design flaw, I’ve never had the chain jump off with my 456 frame.

    Scienceofficer
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    I managed to cut through the stay with my chain without really noticing on my steel 456. Apparently one is not supposed to use a bigger ring than a 32T middle. I was using a 36T.

    bendedheadtube
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    no wrapping of the chain around the crank, so that i have to shove my bike back to my garage?
    Is it “Field Fixable”

    bendedheadtube
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    First thought : Doddamn Heavy.
    Secont thought : Das ist verdammt schwer.
    Third thought : not bad.

    The Schwalbe Muddy Mary 2.5 are contacting the front derailleur cage.
    But the rubber is very thick, and the studs are beyond the flanks of the tyre. (a little tiny bit).
    So on the first ride, i can´t use the smallest chainring.
    Tomorrow i mount some smaller rubbers (2,35)

    Inbred456
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    Long top tube, which is fine for me as I’m a bit of an ape. Stiff back end, not as supple as some other steel frames out there. Slack head angle great for Knarly descents, very stable. I always feel as if I am having to push the fork through stuff on the trail. Front end grip is great, to great if you know what I mean. If I had my time again I’d go for a Scandal but I’m not as hardcore as I thought I was. Bit of a wimpy XC boy! Frame is strong and well made. BB runs true and I’ve only ever had chain suck with Alloy rings. I would give it a try if you don’t like it you could always pass it on and try something else. Nothing ventured nothing gained.

    P20
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    I enjoyed mine. Tough, fun and cheap. I changed to the carbon because of the weight and more importantly the ride comfort

    valleydaddy
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    only had mine for a short while and was a hoot only sold it to try a 29er HT

    If I was after a good value 26″ HT I wouldn’t hesitate getting another

    P20
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    Oh and if you’re looking 2nd hand, I sold mine for around £85 in great condition if that helps

    mikewsmith
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    fun fun fun

    bendedheadtube
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    I sold mine for around £85

    This frame has a FSA Headset and slightly scratches on the paint.
    No dents, no rust.

    igm
    Full Member

    Big rubber can contact the front mech on triple ring set ups.

    Otherwise use and abuse and it’ll come back for more – which is acceptable with bikes apparently.

    Northwind
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    They’re pretty decent. Good handling… Not a bad weight either, for what they are. To me they feel pretty dead and a bit unresponsive, there’s just something uninspiring and adequate about them but for the money adequate is still very good.

    What sort of riding? Practically anything.

    bendedheadtube
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    Complaining about the weight of the front wheel:
    (Weight distribution)
    [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fo7UX9pWtmo[/video]

    It is also the second time this year, i had a properly mountainbike

    Gary_C
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    😯

    trail_rat
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    Climbs like a dead dog

    Not a chance of a 2.5 in there was tight with a 2.35

    Descends like a scalded cat ! So much fun and takes everything i can throw at it …… I used it in the alps – its fr sale now as in scotland its too heavy too slack and i have no real use for it !

    bendedheadtube
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    Today it rains the whole day, so i had no chance of trying the climbing ability of the frame.
    The 2.5 muddy mary´s are hitting the front deteileur cage.
    With 2.35 is it a TIGHT fit (and i had to turn the deteileur slightly clockwise, to avoid rubber contact).
    The backend of the frame is stiff. Very stiff. 100% control if the weight distribution is 0 / 100%

    andyl
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    Your front tyres must last you ages! 😀 I can’t even wheelie for 10 seconds let along 5 minutes!

    reggiegasket
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    weakness – a bit heavy, not a lot of chainring clearance

    strength – handling, price, tough

    style – pretty much anything except full on xc racing

    +1

    Rear end lacks a bit of subtley but it just loves being chucked downhill

    trout
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    Just do away with all that excess weight and get a unicycle 😉

    I want to wheelie 😐

    trail_rat
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    You have a very short stem on there . I ran a 90 to keep the front end on ground

    bendedheadtube
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    unicycle

    I haven´t found a 150mm travel unicycle yet. And if one wheel breaks, i still have one (brandnew) spare.

    I bought the stem for another bike, …
    I often stand on the bike, so it is ok to have a short stem.

    julioflo
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    Wheelie respect. For a minute there I thought you were wheelying[?] without feathering the rear brake….then I realised you have Euro Styley brakes set up….

    bendedheadtube
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    The longest wheelie without brakes is about 50meters.
    Euro set up?
    I thought having the rear brake on the right side is standard.
    The right hand is mostly the strongest hand, and to take the drag of the hoses into a count, i thought this is the best solution.

    Woody
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    I think I would have tried to overcome the fear of dogs and stopped for a breather at around 3min 18secs 😉

    bendedheadtube
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    Nope, the fear of dogs has won,
    this time….

    JustGoRide
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    That video is cool and you sir are mad! Fantastic wheelie skills! 😀

    marka.
    Free Member

    I definitely can’t do that.

    GlitterGary
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    Great video!

    ahwiles
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    bendedheadtube – Member
    Euro set up?

    rear brake connected to right-hand brake-lever

    front brake connected to left-hand lever.

    Americans do the same i think (?)

    British style is opposite to this.

    bendedheadtube
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    i had ridden a bike with a setup like this. (borrowed)
    The owner did not tell, that the brakes are flipped to the “British Style”.
    I was used to ride the bikes with the “European Brake style” and want to do a skid on wet cobblestone street.
    I crapped my pants, but i did not fall. the front tyre was immediately blocked. The bike was sliding over the front tyre for about 4 meters on a foreign bike.
    Since yesterday i thought the flipped (British) style is just the one in a million, and the european the standard.

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