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I've been mountain biking all my life, since being about 5 year old I remember being passionate about my racing, wanting and succeeding in beating my friends around the local block, this passion grew quite quickly, I found myself competing at a high level at all sports I competed in. People would tell me all the time why not turn professional? I think the answer to not turning professional was I would rather give something back to the biking community, and this I did when I set up my own bike skills and coaching school, I set up different courses to suit different levels and abilities in all disciplines of mountain biking.
Coaching and giving others the opportunity to excel in mountain biking as well as me has always kept me well motivated.... However, the past few years has since seen my competitive side shine out again, I competed in a few races and won most of them but I wanted more! and this is when a friend showed me the strava app for my phone, I find it very addictive to the point of becoming obsessed with it, I soon lost interest with racing and why should I when I have all these KOMS 😆
I think strava is a great tool for training, competing and just becoming a better all round mountain biker, lately I've just been taking koms from myself! It's a constant challenge! 😆


 
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Posted : 30/09/2013 6:34 pm
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You sound amazing. One of the things that puts me off Strava is knowing that I could never compete with people at your level. It must be incredible having the talent and ability to turn pro and yet turning down the opportunity to put something back into the biking community.

That said, isn't racing as much about the occasion and the people and the atmosphere as ticking off KOMs against people who you probably have never met and don't even know to be real in some cases?

I think, give the choice, I would become a pro racer. Was that the question or have i misunderstood you?


 
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Yeah, i also gave up sex when i discovered internet porn. Why bother wooing a lass when you can knock one out to some racey on line filth?


 
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Yeah, i also gave up sex when i discovered internet porn. Why bother wooing a lass when you can knock one out to some racey on line filth?


 
Posted : 30/09/2013 6:50 pm
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Can you give us a link to some of your KOMs so that we can see how poorly we compare to a god like you [s]and whether you cry like a baby when we use virtual epo[/s]


 
Posted : 30/09/2013 6:54 pm
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I suppose I’m like the ray mears of the biking world!

LOL

Sorry!


 
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Yup, I can sort of see where you're coming from.

I was in a similar position to you a few years back, I wanted to give something back to biking. So I signed up and created an account on the STW forum so I could offer out all of my useful advice and anecdotes free of charge.

I've helped plenty of people along the way, and I think most people now see me as the man who knows what he's on about.

Then I got Strava. Now I spend most of my time chasing KOMs, rather than giving something back to biking on here.

Love the feeling of getting a KOM though, I'm planning on doing a KOM toure of the country in my KOM van for 2014. I've kitted out my Transporter with a turbo trainer and a fan in the back, then I can drive to my sgement of choice, warm up in the van by the side of the road, before going for the KOM.

something you could look into? Although I know it's not qwuite the same for mtbing, I used to warm upo by watching Cedric Gracia on NWD5.


 
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I think this one might have legs.....


 
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Oddly when you put the OP's name in strava it says no athlete found.
I was expecting the screen to light up emblazened with gold KOMs, the light radiating off my face like that scene from Pulp Fiction when Vincent opens the briefcase.
So disappointed.


 
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Come on, whose second login is this? This 'coach' definitively doesn't exist... Name must be an anagram of something clever? 😛


 
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DT - is the fan in the back your Mum?


 
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Is this Elbry?


 
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DT - is the fan in the back your Mum?

Unfortunately she works full time so she can't come with me everywhere. But she makes my packed lunches and has a recovery tea on for when I get home after a hard day chasing KOMs


 
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^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^


 
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Posted : 30/09/2013 7:25 pm
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Must be a nightmare buying helmets in the size required to fit a head that big, do you just buy buckets and attach the straps?


 
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tsk ! he's to fast skilled and cool to wear a lid


 
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His friend, bikeind, will be along in a minute.......


 
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Troll, surely?


 
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Do people actually use strava for training? I thought people just pootle around until they get to a segment then go balls out to get a KOM and be crap again immediately after? am i wrong?


 
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Rich : you need to alter your persona when posting stuff on here if you wish folk to take you seriously/at face value so to speak (or should that be type?...i dunno?....am i digressing here?, or just bored with where i'm going - awww **** it....who really cares anyway.....), it comes across as a tad too much "rad to the max dude i'm a skills coach/mtb supa-guru", I've done skills coaching, got the BC cerificates n' everythink, also got my smbla wotsits and know of many others who have done similar and also progressed a helluva lot more with their qualifications than i have or wish to do, i did mine for something to do at the time and that's all very well but i have no wish to constantly bleat on about it.
I'm sure you are a pretty decent sort of person and i'd be happy to head out for a ride wi another guide/skills coach as there is always something we can learn no matter how good/bad we consider our riding to be but lay off the blah....blah....blah a tad and you'll get on better wi folk on here.

So strava is a constant challenge for you?, big ****ing deal (and i mean that in the way that i'd say it your face rather than any malice involved), i'd take a closer look at your personality traits and ask why you constantly feel the need to "better" yourself?, i am 100% happy wi myself and my riding, don't use strava, never will although i'm sure i could claim a few KOM's on the trails without any hassles 😉 but for the love of god why bother?.....Strava is not accurate, or at least it is open to variables between devices and satellite strength/signal and the GPX file can be easily doctored to show whatever you like.

Thanks to yesterdays perfect N-Easterly wind shoving me in the back whilst straddling the top-tube with my balls i got 52mph on the road bike down a local hill segment that i know other cyclists have "strava'd" at a max of 44mph for the KOM (i know because i work in a bike shop), the file is sitting as a gpx file on my phone at the moment but i'm not going to join up and add it to strava as "what is the point?, i am perfectly content with my riding and who i deem myself to be without the "smoke blowing up arse" stavaites sending me Kudos or suchlike.


 
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'succeeding in beating my friends around the local block'
'giving others the opportunity to excel in mountain biking as well as me'
'competed in a few races and won most of them'
'lost interest with racing and why should I when I have all these KOMS'
'I've just been taking koms from myself'
'there’s not much I don’t know in the industry'
'I’m like the ray mears of the biking world!'


 
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I can offer no greater compliment than to say you are Surf Matt AICMFP.


 
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I've just realised - is richmtbguru's real name Manuel?


 
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I know nothing...


 
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stavaites sending me Kudos or suchlike.

Brilliant, does that happen...really 😀

I had to remove my snot ridden glove to shake the hand of the man whom I'd been locked in racing with Sunday. I could have just texted him 'Kudos XXX'


 
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great thread, would read again A++++++++++++++


 
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People would tell me all the time why not turn professional?

Just out of interest, were any of these people involved in the running of a professional cycling team ?


 
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Brilliant, does that happen...really

GW sent me kudos :mrgreen:


 
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Not that Manuel - the one I was thinking of rides a fatbike.


 
Posted : 30/09/2013 10:38 pm
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richmtbguru, you made me laugh.
You cast the bait and caught a few fish on this thread.


 
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Very surprised by some of the negative comments! It's know wonder some of you struggle out on the trails with such a negative mind.. I've been in this sport all my life and contributed towards it, I would even go as far as saying I could have even made an impact on it, I've taught young up and coming professionals. Jeez I've even given friendly constructive advice on here, how the hell is that trolling!!!
Maybe it's just because I'm a positive person and got far in this industry and made lots of achievements, you should all try being positive, you might start enjoying this sport more! 🙄


 
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Very surprised by some of the negative comments! It's know wonder some of you struggle out on the trails with such a negative mind.. I've been in this sport all my life and contributed towards it, I would even go as far as saying I could have even made an impact on it, I've taught young up and coming professionals. Jeez I've even given friendly constructive advice on here, how the hell is that trolling!!!
Maybe it's just because I'm a positive person and got far in this industry and made lots of achievements, you should all try being positive, you might start enjoying this sport more

Can you let us know who you are, just in case i/we ever need to book some skills day, just to make sure i don't go to such a muppet.


 
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Posted : 01/10/2013 8:53 am
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Taking your post on face value- why not post a link to your Strava profile, I bet you will soon find those KOM's more challenging?


 
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If you've been in the bike industry all your life when did you find time to be in the Paras?


 
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It's know wonder some of you struggle out on the trails with such a negative mind.

Yeah that must be it. If only I could think more positively those Strava KOMs would come flowing in without me even having to do any work. In fact I'm trying to think more positively right now - as in testing positive for virtual epo...


 
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Tony, I used to row in the army, could have quite easily made the Olympic team, this alone will tone most of the body muscles without lifting weights which would just bulk you up! Unless you did more reps but you'd be still only isolating your muscle groups, rowing gets the lot while also good for cardio, I was also a gym instructor in the forces.

Swoon. I didn't think real life heroes existed anymore. When I grow up...


 
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If you've been in the bike industry all your life when did you find time to be in the Paras?

richmtbguru in his younger years:
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I honestly think this is the funniest thread ive ever seen!
Flame away!!


 
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Richmtbguru, do you surf too?


 
Posted : 01/10/2013 9:32 am
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Please display your Strava profile, so that I can take all your KOMS.

Unless you're chicken*.

*Or live very far away from me


 
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Tony, I used to row in the army, could have quite easily made the Olympic team,

Interesting. I used to row quite a lot too. I might have just about been able to scrape into the Olympic team if I'd focussed on rowing above all else but didn't fancy it given that I'd have been an also-ran at that level.

I'd suggest that almost no one can 'quite easily' get in the GB rowing team and if they could they'd have been right at the top of the squad and therefore pretty much guaranteed Olympic medals. As such, I'm very surprised that you'd have turned down that opportunity.

Also, from what I recall, the Army never really put out any decent crews though possibly I've missed the odd year that they did?

I'm genuinely interested in who you are though as we probably have friends in common given the GB team connection.


 
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I do like a good walt-hunt


 
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Is the OP one of the GB worlds road team?


 
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rich ignore all the h8ters your my hero ! Can you send me personally signed print out of all your KOMs from Stava ?

Thanks your no1. fan ! 🙂


 
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He was a competitive XC skiier as well. There can't have been THAT many people skiing and rowing for the Army whilst always being in the bike industry (and running a 1h 23min marathon).

A new AWESOME for sure. I want to be coached by him.


 
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Surely the OP is just a comedy alter ego?

Profile:....

I suppose I’m like the ray mears of the biking world!

He's very good though.
Wonder who he is?


 
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Well, we have to assume it's somewhat tounge-in-cheek 🙂


 
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Taking your post on face value- why not post a link to your Strava profile, I bet you will soon find those KOM's more challenging?

This... If you're epic let's see how epic so we can challenge you again and you can work hard to beat those KOMs.


 
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On STW, I always assume the worst and that he is out there somewhere, like a supersuperhero on his Scott Genius!


 
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I think the OP is the male (possibly) version of an almost Rebecca Romero judging by their sporting past.


 
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Got to be troll.

Did a search a while back for coaching using the name, nada.

Although Rich if you're reading this, you're not far from where I ride, happy to meet up if you fancy a blast around the woods


 
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This

It's know wonder some of you struggle out on the trails with such a negative mind

Reminds me of this

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It's the not knowing which hurts the most 😡

I would also naturally assume troll, but I used to work with a guy who pretty much ticks all these boxes, so I know people like this exist in the wild. He'd done it all, could have been anything he wanted to be... So why are you working as a dogsbody for the council then? Oh yes, because you're a self-delusional, pathological liar. Not casting any aspersions on the OP, just my experiences.


 
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Strava is not the place to prove you are quick, as it can be jigged, saying this I make a kom every time I go out on the bike, I never bothered using strava until one of my clients recommended me using it, a few of my clients would always tell me how fast I was on the bike, I never told them I could have been a pro!
My recent stat is 1/6547, this was a climb the same day I came 1/4299 on descent, this is a regular pattern,
I'm very passionate about my riding and have never had anyone overtake me on a climb or descent.
I have over 300 koms since being on strava 8 month ago, needless to see why I teach m


 
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It's the not knowing which hurts the most

I would also naturally assume troll, but I used to work with a guy who pretty much ticks all these boxes, so I know people like this exist in the wild. He'd done it all, could have been anything he wanted to be... So why are you working as a dogsbody for the council then? Oh yes, because you're a self-delusional, pathological liar. Not casting any aspersions on the OP, just my experiences.

That's the thing, there are some very special/talented/gifted individuals ou there who can turn their hand to anything and excel at it.

I think we should be proud that one of them graces this very forum.

It's clear there's a few on here that are probably a bit jealous, stuck working the 9-5, chasing KOMs well above their level, never getting anywhere close.


 
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Strava. In the end even if you do it without "digital aids" it comes down to who went biking on the windiest day. I can never beat my commute time now as it was, for example, blowing 40kph the day I got it. It was a bugger on the way home though.

Is this the gurus secret weapon?

Or is he doing another remake as Gaylord Mitty?


 
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Do people actually take Strava seriously?

My Mum has some KOM's. She's 68, 18 stone and hasn't been on a bike for around 60 years but she does drive her Nissan Micra very slowly, particularly up steep hills. In fact she is only just quicker than some of the local fast boy roadies... 🙂

If you are any good, then prove it and beat people by racing them between the tapes. Otherwise it's just internet willy waving.

Oh, and I have put far more back into mountain biking than you. In fact I have donated a kidney to each of the Athertons.


 
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richmtbguru, yesterday 😉
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Oh and I've donated two kidneys to each of the Athertons.


 
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It's because of comedy gold like this I still trawl through hundreds of pages of whining drivel.......daily.
If Dickyguru,Smurfmatt,Kaesae and the other mental one who advertised for a mechanic were in the same room would their combined awesomeness/delusion/positive vibes start nuclear fusion.


 
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Just been reading richmtbguru's previous posts, I really can't decide if he's for real, can anyone really be that awesome? 😕

Strava. In the end even if you do it without "digital aids" it comes down to who went biking on the windiest day.

This. Or whether you pushed it chain ganging with a bunch of mates on a club ride, etc. It's mostly just this...

internet willy waving.

I do upload occasionally to share and chat about new routes with friends, but for any sort of meaningful analysis I find it quite limited (you may get more if you go pro I guess.) I use TrainingPeaks instead. Am occasionally sucked into the KOM thing but largely try and ignore it as it's just a distraction from training (which probably makes me sound really dull.)

Edit: Oh and to answer the OPs question. Having a proper race against real people is fun. Waiting for a windy day to go out and ride some segment so that you can take a KOM off some random anonymous internet person isn't. IMO anyway.


 
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Hmmm i may know who this is! but i may not so cant comment


 
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Hmmm i may know who this is! but i may not so cant comment

His previous posts almost seem credible. Has he really spent a year cultivating that persona before unleashing this thread?


 
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Exactly mrblobby. Had a look through his previous posts and he seems to know his stuff. The post below for example, it's not the sort of stuff you can just make up on the spot, that sort of knowledge comes from time and experience in the trade

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Absolutely! One thing I always made sure my clients would do before a race was to go through it in their heads the night before, spend a few hours going down a local downhill course in your head and visualise yourself going around the berm, feel every bump going around, try to make it as relaxing as possible, perhaps put some soothing music on in the background. Make sure to kill your speed before the berm, and learn to throw your hips into it, once you've mastered this technique in your head you then need to put it into practice out on the course, always check you have adequate grip on your pedals or if wearing spds make sure they're not too tight as you may need to get them out early while going around, the berm. Good luck with your task and always wear a helmet.


 
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Borderline credible, though I think my judgement might be clouded by desperately wanting him to be for real 🙂


 
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I used to work with a guy who pretty much ticks all these boxes

Ah - you've worked with Johnny Two-Sheds as well? If you've had a wee on the hard shoulder he's had a dump in the fast lane. Same bloke?


 
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Everyone knows that bloke. If you don't it's you.

Dave was my one. If you asked him how he was, he'd reply 'better than you'. 😉


 
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If richmtbguru has more than a borderline personality disorder, I wouldn't want to run into him out in the woods on my own. You see plenty of weird people on bikes as it is 🙂


 
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You have to hand it to him he's been crafting the same online persona for some time, that takes stamina 😉


 
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"always wear a helmet"

Sounds like a pisstake to me. If he is the sensation he says he is, he should have no problem in identifying himself.


 
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You have to hand it to him he's been crafting the same online persona for some time, that takes stamina
Seems a shame to throw it all away for this though. Only 3 pages so far, hardly an übertroll that will be talked about for years to come!


 
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