And you assumed that it would have been less dangerous - this in the absence of all of the information and based on a different experiential and skills set.
Can you prove that the speed I was driving at was dangerous?
Anyway I've made my point. So will leave you to get yourself dizzy by going round in circles for the rest of the day.
Can you prove that the speed I was driving at was dangerous?
Not trolling here Goan, but why was everyone driving too fast?
Such collectively bad judgement seems unlikely. I drove South from Newtonmore on Sunday on the A9 in pretty atrocious conditions and all the drivers behaved impeccably. There was a long queue in front and a long queue behind, everyone driving patiently in convoy, all keeping a safe distance allowing for drivers to pull off to clear windscreens and wipers, allowing them back into the queue. There were no stupid attempts to overtake on snow-bound dual carriageways. Everyone in that queue drove with common sense and with a concern for, and awareness of, others at speeds between 15 and 30mph until things began to clear south of Dunkeld.
The traffic going north appeared to be doing the same. I always expect to see one or two idiots in such conditions, but to contend that the entire driving population on a particular road is behaving negligently seems somehow implausible.
how do you think the other cars around you would respond to seeing a vehicle fishtailing in front of them?
I'm not sure he can be blamed for how others react?
Such collectively bad judgement seems unlikely.
Seriously, are you seriously saying that? Do you live in a parallel universe?
Car starting to fishtail does not equal almost losing control of the car. Years of being a boy racer and kart racer has seen to that.
You ASSUMED driving at a safe speed would have been more dangerous. You PROVED that driving at a dangerous speed was dangerous.
Impressive trolling m_f. Now if you can just relate this to the assumption and proofs of climate change then you should have a perfect storm 
I'm not sure he can be blamed for how others react?
Car starting to fishtail does not equal almost losing control of the car. Years of being a boy racer and kart racer has seen to that.
And you haven't answered - what effect do you think your fishtailing car would have on the responses of other road users.
Do you live in a parallel universe?
No. Why?
Stuartie_C - It was Glasgow. Conditions were interesting in that they didn't look that bad, but there were actually truly horrendous - lots of black ice. Add that to the fact that Glasgow had been at a standstill all day due to the M8 and M73 being closed. It is thee worst combination of road and traffic conditions that I've ever been in and it was taking ALL of my concentration and skill to keep the thing going straight and stop some nugget from crashing into us.
M_F - I think they were too busy trying to keep control of their own vehicles to concentrate on mine.
OK.
Sounds very different to the A9 conditions - deep snow lying on an already frozen base and a near-blizzard. Much more obviously dangerous.
I'll sit back and enjoy the discussion now. 
I told you that you wouldn't understand. I wouldn't expect any soft southern shandy drinker to understand.
any chance of your point of view having any credibility or being taken seriously just went out the window by taking this ad hominem stance (all be it to lager adulterers from south of the wash/bristol channel in general not just an individual)
maybe start another thread to get your point across better?
Driving to work has been fun! Lift off oversteer is actually working in my shitty car! Had to laugh at a colleague following tried the same and ended up spinning 360! All good fun, when no one's about!
Goan - Premier Member
M_F - to drive at a speed that was appropriate for the conditions when everyone else was going way faster than that would have been a more dangerous option. I do not expect you to understand this though.
No - that's not what I'm advocating at all - what i'm advocating is driving safely and thinking about ALL of the factors involved in doing so.
FORWARDS...SIDEWAYS! SIDEWAYS! SIDEWAYS! BACKWARDS!
doesnt ever sease to be fun does it?
i have got really good at handbrake turning into my car parking space too
i like it when j turns become '&' turns
No. Why?
Because collectively horrendous driving skill is commonplace in the UK, as is speeding at ridiculously unsafe speeds in the wet on motorways. I can't see where your confusion over the possibility of everyone driving unsafely stems from? I can only conclude you do live in a different world, or are one of the horrendous ones 
!
Goan - it didn't appear to be too bad on the day you are discussing, we seem to have met distinctly different weather in the same city, on the same roads!
I can only conclude you do live in a different world, or are one of the horrendous ones
Which might lead me to conclude that you like things to be black and white to fit in with an over-simplified version of reality. It doesn't, but it might. My point being that I'm not sure you can draw any inferences about me or my driving ability from one forum post.
Sorry to disappoint you. Have a good Christmas anyway.
we seem to have met distinctly different weather in the same city, on the same roads!
Which might lead me to conclude that you like things to be black and white to fit in with an over-simplified version of reality. It doesn't, but it might. My point being that I'm not sure you can draw any inferences about me or my driving ability from one forum post.
Nope, no over-simplified views here, just regular views of sheeplike poor driving. I wasn't drawing inferences about you, I was wondering (out loud) which was correct as your experience doesn't match mine! To coin a phrase...Don't take yourself so seriously, no-one else does 
Sorry to disappoint you.
Have a good Christmas anyway.
And you.
CK - weather was all over the shop yesterday. It went from being almost whiteout to absolutely nothing and back again every 5 minutes. Horrendous conditions that dont look too bad at certain times...
dosent anybody listen to the radio anymore. mine said it was the worst snow conditions for 15 years.......so i cancelled work and went for a ride.......what tyres for roadriding ? 2.1 mudmads with 25 psi in
had my Defender now for years but its times when the weathers like it is you remember just how good they are, running on Michelin XZL's its been unstoppable and has been the 'taxi' service for the people of our hill.
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