We check out the different features of these three bags. For more detail, check out our website:
https://singletrackworld.com/2021/10/three-things-thursday-3-backpacks-with-spine-protection/
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we don't have a catchy title for this
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yet we're not calling it well it might
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not be three things thursday because
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there might be more than three things
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three things first
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it could be a pla you could you know
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three things thursday doesn't
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necessarily have to have three things in
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it does this week doesn't it i guess
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we're recording you better explain
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what's going on
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okay so we're here with some products
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and we're not going to review them we're
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just going to give you a look at them we
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need a catchy title for it like three
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things thursday but it might not always
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go out on a thursday and it might not
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always be three things so you know
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suggestions welcome but the idea is to
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look at some products that have some
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similarities and give you a bit of a
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look at them and uh kind of talk through
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some of the different features that
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they've got so you might then go and buy
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one or not so it's bags this week this
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week it's bags but it's bags with spine
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protectors in oh right okay so it's you
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know bucking the fashion for hit packs
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in duro stylee um you might who brought
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hip packs back bum bags i can't believe
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that they're now a thing again
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they've been a thing for a while mark
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i'm afraid
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but yeah i don't know
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i blame empty hammer or somebody anyway
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uh yeah if you uh are riding in some
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races particularly in france and some of
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the races in europe they actually
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require you to have a backpack with a
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certified spine protector i did not know
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that they do that's the first time i
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ever used one was i was going to a race
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and you had to have one
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um so that's one of the things here all
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these bags we've got a certified spine
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protector so it meets a certain number
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of safety standards so i imagine that
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some people think i've got a backpack on
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that'll give me protection or i'll fill
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my bladder extra full or something like
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that that's a nice soft blending and you
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know to some extent that is going to
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give you a landing but these all have an
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insert
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of some sort at the back
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which has been certified to keep you
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safe where do you want to start well
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should we start with a small one yeah by
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the end so you know lots of people like
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riding with not very much kit these days
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and so they wear a hit pack um but that
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obviously doesn't cover your back
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this is the camelbak chase
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um and it's a vest protector vest now
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they do one without the spine protector
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in as well
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as you can see it's pretty it's very
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vesty it's very vesty yeah it's very
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vesty and it's very small it's quite
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slim
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and i have to say this
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pack is worth having for this pocket
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alone this this front pocket is the size
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of a giant iphone and it means it's on
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the front where you you can get to it
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when you're riding along without him to
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wrestle your bag off but it's also not
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somewhere that you're going to generally
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crash onto
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so yeah i said we're not going to review
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it but i have used this one quite a lot
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as you can see yes that's not fresh out
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of a box is it no
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so but being small you do get some
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compromises yeah so inside well it has
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this like helmet carrying bit on the
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front
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you can kind of
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get your foot well not so much in but
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i've kind of laced that through the vent
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straps and stuff on a full face or put a
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chin bar on
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you get your little
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fleecy
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goggles pocket in there and then this
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opens out nicely
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these are your tools
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it doesn't
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and it doesn't come with the tool roll
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either i've poached that out of another
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camel backpack
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yes
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but it so it has a big section um and
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i've found i can get like a big 29er in
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a tube
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and a jacket and then like my tool roll
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but that's about it not even a sandwich
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it's a very squashed sandwich at that
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point
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but your emergency blanket got my
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emergency blanket yeah so you get a
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couple of decent sized pockets and then
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that gives you um a little pocket as
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well to put your keys or whatever in and
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where's the bladder go the bladder
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goes
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in there i see yep which um yeah i don't
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often ride with the bladder but does it
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come with a bladder it doesn't and none
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of these bags do
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and i think that that is something that
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manufacturers are doing because they
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think people already have bladders and
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so they're trying to keep the price down
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because they are you know a bit spendier
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um and so yeah they don't tend to send
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you a butter but you can buy one and fit
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it yeah sure so okay that's that one
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kind of a day out
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a small day out not a big day out in the
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mountains because you just can't get
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enough extra layers and kit in there for
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a big day out so okay that's one from
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camelback a little bit bigger
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this is the trail pro from evoc this is
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the 16 liter version
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comes in sizes
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so this is the small medium one you have
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to make sure you get the right size one
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for your body i'm a big fan of evoc
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packs i like the fact that i like these
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straps with the velcro yeah it's just
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like massively strapped on yeah it's
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very good for middle-aged waste yes
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they're kind of comfortable nice and
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wide and i'm a bit girdling
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okay yes so this is actually their
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second bag with a spine protector in
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that i've used this is the super
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lightweight version
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and i think it weighs about a kilogram
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um and it's noticeably lighter than than
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their other one that i used um but it
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has a slightly different pocket layout
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well i like the double um the double zip
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pull there yeah it's kind of yeah does
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it work
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yeah it's all right but then it's got
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quite small pockets in here oh yeah
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remember the camelbak had bigger ones
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yeah
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so i'm not sure what you put in those
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little sections
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um it doesn't come with a helmet carrier
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but you can buy one as an added extra
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um and then you get your goggles
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and then what's in this one i wonder
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anything
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i've been using it oh an inner tube look
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at that look carefully labeled yeah it
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doesn't come within a tube no you don't
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get it
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and so then you've got one big section
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yeah somewhere for your keys um well
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that's where the bladder goes inside
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there and it's not an actual
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separate bladder compartment it's in the
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main compartment yeah yeah so
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um and that's your your back protector
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in there as well which they will replace
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if uh if you do crash and do a crash
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replacement scheme just like you do for
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helmets
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replacement screen for that that's
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pretty cool so
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um we should look at the other side i
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guess
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uh got some serious big pockets going on
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on the on the side
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and one of those has got the rain
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covering oh that's it says it says rain
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cover sorry from that yeah exactly
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and then a nice coordinating cover and
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that's the ring oh it's totally separate
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and it goes over the entire goes over
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the whole thing yes very cool quite like
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the fact that the rain cover is on the
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sides because sometimes i've found that
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it gets stashed in a little pocket down
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there which is exactly where all the mud
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goes that's true and then you can't
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actually operate the zip anymore okay um
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so yeah so that's a next size up pack
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brilliant and then we've got and then
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this one the osprey raptor pro now i
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haven't used this one yet because it is
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just launched i think they've just sent
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us one this week haven't they yes they
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have um and it's their first uh
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backpack with a spine protector in
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it's a d3o
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protector
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and it's been
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developed with tracy mosley
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who teemo yeah um and some other trek
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riders as well so it's an 18 litre
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monster this is
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this is a pack for a big day out yeah
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yeah it's huge now i believe that this
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is designed they claim you can actually
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get a full facer in there full fat is
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designed to carry a full face helmet and
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a full set of pads wow
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so that you can ride between your enduro
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stages
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in comfort and then put everything on
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before you start descending
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i've had i've had people ask questions
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they've seen these on a few things i'm
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sure everybody out there knows what this
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is but i know some people said what is
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this thing what's it for
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well do you put it through a hole in a
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vent and then it that's it it goes
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through you push it's stretchy you push
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that through the vent of your helmet and
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turn it round and it holds your helmet
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in place
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if you didn't know what these things
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were that's what it is yeah so if you
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are wanting to carry a helmet obviously
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the the camelbak one it kind of does do
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it but it's a bit of a budge the um
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trail pro you need to buy the extra net
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yeah um and then this one it's all set
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all there
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inside and then we have not fleecy
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although this is a
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sample so whether the actual final one
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is going to have
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fleece in or whether this is like a
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little textured thing instead of fleece
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as an environmental measure because
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osprey is big on that
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not sure
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then
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this i think this is going to bug me
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because to get into the main section you
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have to unscrap and clip that undo the
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main helmet straps to get in to get in
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yeah that might just you know like slow
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me down because you know if your
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sandwich is in there and you need a
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sandwich
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nothing nothing should get in the way
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but this is kind of interesting i think
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that it has this big section with uh
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some a few small sections in there um so
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you could put your coat and your
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sandwiches and things in there but you
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don't need to have your tools in there
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because your tools
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are in a special section at the bottom
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now
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i can't i'm way looking forward to
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testing this because i can't decide if
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it's genius or disaster i mean surely
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tracy mosley knows
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but look it has a full-on trail uh tool
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roll which is like what i've got in in
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the other one yeah um which you can take
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out
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so you put your tools in there
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and then this
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little bottom section
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is for your tools now
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there's no rain cover
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it looks pretty waterproof though
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they're not are they taped seams they're
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not really taped are they but you know
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that is going to be down and it is in
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that area in that area so whether your
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tools are all going to get up wet um i
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don't know we'll see i have to say i've
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got an old osprey pack that's at least
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10 years old that i've worn
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to destruction i still use it now and it
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has that in the bottom i've not had any
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issues with the tool
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so i i would
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not be that worried about it if it's the
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same as the one that i've been using for
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10 years the one thing i really like
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about osprey is they're not afraid to
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use magnets and i love this chest
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and it's well known nobody
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nobody science doesn't even know how
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magnets work
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so it you know it's it's literally a
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backpack with with that's run on magnets
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and magic and it just literally look at
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that yeah it's just so cool that won't
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come off now to get that off you have to
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sort of
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pull it to one side but throw it on and
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so often i take my backpack off of
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something put it on deal up the waist
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pack set off and then i'm like oh hang
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on it's slipping off me oh i can't and i
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can't do no handed riding down a hill
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that kind of thing yeah that one do with
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one hand look at that it's amazing
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and there's an extra magnet on here
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because i know now we've said that none
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of these come with with actual bladders
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uh i'll spray do a bladder with uh with
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a little magnet mount on the actual hose
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so that you can just actually instead of
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trying to you know like you do with the
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bladder you put the hose you're trying
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to hook it up
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it just goes click onto your onto your
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magnet so there is a it is a
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right-handed
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drinking arrangement because the zip
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comes over your right shoulder for the
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the tube
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and then you can see the d3o
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uh insert in there i never thought you
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know because the the old backpack i've
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got does have this
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kind of unique zip that goes all the way
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which makes it really really easy to put
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your bladder in because you're not
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threading it through anything you're
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spreading the wet soggy thing that
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you've just been filling up at the sink
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and then yeah well you make a great
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point because i'd never because i am a
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right-handed pose person i know that
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some people out there probably prefer to
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come over the left shoulder you know who
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is left-handed and always notes that
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chips of course yes yes that's why i
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noticed that because chips have taught
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me by moaning about others so
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so there we go
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so where can people find out more
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information about these uh there will be
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a story on our website okay yeah if
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you're on youtube right now just click
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on the link below us and uh and go and
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check out these uh the prices
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distribution where they're from and
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weights and all the all the data yeah
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there you go so hopefully a little bit
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of insight into three different bags
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that you might want to choose if you
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want to protect your back yeah while
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you're out riding that's it from three
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things thursday it's a bit of a mouthful
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through things first and we can't say on
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the couch because we're not on account
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you're in the chair yes maybe from the
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chair yeah we need some suggestions for
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what this is going to be so feel free to
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add them in the comments
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thank you very much for joining us
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cheers guys bye
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