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Wil has a Santa Cruz Blur frame that he's built up from scratch as a longterm test bike.
Join in and ask any questions you've got for Wil about the Blur, running a 120mm travel fork, and why he's testing both 44mm and 51mm fork offsets on here...
See the original build story right here: https://singletrackworld.com/2018/08/watch-this-custom-santa-cruz-blur-frame-turn-into-a-complete-bike/
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hey everyone it's will here from single
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track magazine and single TRW world.com
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and uh welcome to my good friend Ben's
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Workshop who's kindly let me uh jump in
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here with this bike um to do a bit of a
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video Q&A with you guys so uh this is
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the first time um that I've done live
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video on YouTube um but uh I'd be Keen
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for if you're tuning in and watching um
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to ask me whatever questions you've got
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about this bike uh perhaps youve got
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some questions about the setup of the
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bike
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um got some interesting uh changes on
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this bike to what it comes with stock
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from Santa Cruz uh because we did
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receive this frame on its own and uh has
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been built into the complete bike you
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see here from a range of different test
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components uh so if you've got any
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questions about how we've built this up
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and why we've decided to build it up
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this way um drop them in the comment
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section below um this is live so I can
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answer those questions or I can do my
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best to answer those questions for you
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um so let me know where in the world
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you're watching from um drop that in the
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comment section below we'd love to know
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uh where single track followers are and
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uh and what you're up to as well so b
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means joining the party um I'm here
1:10
hanging out I've got plenty of time up
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my sleeve um so let me know what you
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want to know about this bike um and uh
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yeah why don't you tell me where you're
1:18
where you're watching from so perhaps we
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should run through some tals on this bik
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we've got a few people tuning in live
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right now so hello to you guys who are
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watching I should point out as well that
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after after this uh video finishes um if
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you watch this video after we've gone
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live I'll be monitoring the questions uh
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for the next well indefinitely so if
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you've got any questions about this and
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you're watching it uh and it's not live
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anymore because the video will be
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uploaded on its own um I will answer
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those questions or I will do my best to
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answer those questions for you so don't
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worry if you don't watch this live but
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for those who are hello welcome welcome
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to Ben's wonderful Workshop um I'll show
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you a bit more of the space um perhaps
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another time um but right now we're
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going to talk about this bike here the
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Santa Cruz Blur so um so firstly this
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bike was released geez it was March or
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April this year so I guess about 6
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months ago now um the blur is of course
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a really um well I mean it's synonymous
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with Santa Cruz isn't it it's one of the
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Keystone models um from Santa Cruz
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they've produced over the years uh it's
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changed quite a bit with this version
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because the the original blur kind of
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morphed and molded and shaped over the
2:30
years initially it was an aluminium 26in
2:32
full suspension race bike um then we saw
2:36
carbon fiber versions We saw the four
2:38
cross version we saw the trail version
2:42
and the XC um and there was a blur long
2:46
travel wasn't there blur LT as well so
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there's been quite a few different
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versions of this bike but um once 29in
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wheels and 27.5 in Wheels started to
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really take off the blur kind of
2:58
disappeared so this is probably about 10
3:00
years ago or so now uh well not quite
3:02
that much Sorry probably about eight or
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seven or eight years ago um the tall boy
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came out from Santa Cruz and that kind
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of filled the Gap in the Santa Cruz
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lineup for a short travel 29in cross
3:12
country race bike and as 29ers got more
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popular um that left less people wanting
3:18
uh the smaller wheel blur with 26in
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wheels so it kind of disappeared this
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year Santa Cruz brought it back so I was
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very lucky enough to go to the launch in
3:27
California for this new bike um Santa
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Cruz released the new blur and also the
3:32
highball and uh and they brought it back
3:34
with vengeance they um this is this is a
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pretty incredible bike to be perfectly
3:39
honest I've been riding for a couple of
3:41
months and so far I've been really
3:43
really impressed with how it rides
3:44
compared to previous versions um the
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blur has gone back to its cross country
3:48
racing route so this is a purebred cross
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country race bike it's 100 Mil travel on
3:53
the rear VPP suspension design on the
3:55
back lightweight carbon fiber frame
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that's full carbon front end and swing
4:00
arm as well and uh and it's designed as
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a CrossCountry race bike so the high
4:05
ball being the hard tail uh race bike in
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the Santa Cruz lineup the blur being the
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full suspension equivalent so perhaps
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for racing uh more technical courses uh
4:15
for doing Marathon racing endurance
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racing um or for people who just want a
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fun lightweight cross country bike uh
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now I've just seen uh we've got some
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thumbs up here so people who are tuning
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in live welcome um thanks for tuning in
4:29
my name's will from single track and
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we're doing a Q&A on this bike here the
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Santa Cruz Blur so if you're watching um
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and you're enjoying the video so far
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give us a thumbs up and if you got any
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questions for me about this bike and the
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build that we've got on here just drop
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them in the comments section below I'll
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be able to hopefully answer them for you
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I've got them on my little iPhone screen
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here so um just let me know what
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questions you've got about this bike oh
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we've got Paul J hi from Australia hello
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Paul thanks for tuning in and uh and
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thanks for the comment um getting out on
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the bike today let me know if you're
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going for a ride I'm hopefully going to
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get out riding this afternoon the sun is
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shining and uh trails are nice and dry
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and Rocky and Dusty so I'll be getting
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out myself um but let me know
5:09
whereabouts in the world you're going to
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be going to be going for a bike ride I'd
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love to know um so back to the blur um
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this particular bike we received as a
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frame set so oh we've got hi from C
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hello thanks for tuning in that's a long
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way away from Australia welcome uh
5:26
welcome to Ben's workshop and this live
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Q&A video so thanks for tuning in um so
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yes so Santa Cruz make the blur in two
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carbon frames is the blur C and the blur
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CC now they do this with most of their
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carbon fiber frames they have two
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different grades the CC is the top level
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super light um state-of-the-art
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technology carbon fiber frame the C
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frame comes in at a cheaper price um now
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Santa Cruz say that the C frame has the
5:54
same strength and stiffness as the CC
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but it's made but it's heavier it's made
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with a cheaper grade of carbon fiber not
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quite as advanced manufacturing
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techniques so there is a bit of extra
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weight from the C frame um that's kind
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of uh it really depends which model you
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sorry which build you're going for as to
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whether you're going to get a c or a cc
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so the entry level blurs will come with
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a C frame and the higher end blurs will
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come with a cc frame um I think there's
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six seven eight different Bill kits that
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you can get with this bike I'll go
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through pricing soon I've also got
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weights on this um and if you got any
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questions for me about specifics let me
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know and uh I should have most of the
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info here I uh see if you can try and
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trip me up on it um but this is the CC
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frame so you can get the frame on its
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own um now I'll get you a price for that
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the CC frame in the UK with a factory
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rear shock this is the Black Performance
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um series shock with the gold Kashima
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Fox shock you're looking at three grand
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£
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2,999 so it's a very highend very
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premium priced frame in Australia you're
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looking at just shy of 5 grand so
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$4,999 Australian dollar to get this
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Frame and as I said that's with the gold
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Factory shock not the all black one that
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we've got here um complete bikes what
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have we got they kick off at uh 3,700
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quid for the blur sea um that's the
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entry level build and it goes all the
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way up to
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8,200 um and that translates to S Grand
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Australian to 13 a half Grand wow that's
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a that's a lot of money for a mountain
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bik that is the absolute all singing all
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dancing top of the range I think it's
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the xx1 build with the reserve carbon
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wheels so uh yeah you can certainly um
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spend a lot on these complete bikes as I
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said we've got the frame here uh which
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we built up with various test components
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so I'm going to talk a little bit about
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what the build is on here um and also
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how it rides too um because you probably
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notice it's got a pretty big fork on it
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um the blur normally comes with 100 Mil
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travel Fork
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um in fact all the stock bikes come with
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a 100 mm travel Fork on the front and
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that matches the 100 Mil travel on the
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back the frame is rated to go up to 120
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mm on the front though so you can fit as
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we have done here a longer travel Fork
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on the front this is 120 mm Travel Fox
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34 stepcast so it's a nice lightweight
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120 mil travel trail Fork um and this is
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the maximum travel you can fit on the
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blur now obviously the longer you go on
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the fork everything slackens out a
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little bit and the whole frame lifts up
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a little bit so the geometry does change
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um and depending on the type of riding
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you're going to be doing and depending
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on the type of Rider you are um that may
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or may not be a good thing um I wanted
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to do this because the bike that I rode
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at launch was the full cross country
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race spec so it had a Fox 32 stepcast
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100 Mil travel uh long stem uh slightly
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narrow bars fast rolling Maxis tires um
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I think there were Ardent race TI run
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that bike it was very CrossCountry
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focused and that's how most of the blurs
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come out of the box um but I wanted to
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see how much more I could get out of
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this bike because when I rode that for
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the first time I was really impressed
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with the ride quality of the bvp
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suspension design but also the handling
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from the blur chassis felt really
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confidence inspiring it felt really
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stable um it just felt like a a really
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capable bike to ride um but I did find
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the 32 step cast Fork on the front was a
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bit bendy in comparison it is a great
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race Fork don't get me wrong um but it
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compared to the rest of the frame which
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is fairly stiff and fairly Stout the
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stepcast fork did feel a little bit
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bendy you know particularly when you
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were plowing into bigger rocks um when
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you were descending there's a little bit
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of twang from that 32 Step cast fork and
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you could feel that definitely on on the
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faster kind of impacts so we decided to
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put the bigger 34 chassis Fork on here
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now this is a really impressive Fork I
9:59
have reviewed this separately um but I
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will have a a separate feature coming on
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this it's a fantastic Fork it's um
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optimized around 120 mm of travel and if
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you've got a bike like the blur um Rocky
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Mountain Element um intense sniper uh
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Yeti SB 100 um any of these kind of
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short travel cross country race bikes
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that will take a bigger Fork oh we've
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got a question here we have compared
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with other XC platform okay so yeah so
10:30
uh we're talking about how the blur
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Compares with the burlier 120 mil Fork
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versus the lighter weight 100 mm XC Fork
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um in short the change to the ride
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quality is pretty pronounced it it kind
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of turns the blur from a cross country
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race bike into what I feel is a very
10:49
fast trail bike it's very whippy it's
10:51
very efficient it remain retains that
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kind of per pedaling platform that you
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get from the VPP suspension design but
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with the 120 m Fork everything slackens
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off a little bit so the head angle out
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of out of the box I think is
11:05
69° with the extra 20 M of travel on the
11:08
front I haven't measured it yet but it's
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roughly a degree slacker so you're
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looking about 68° that this head angle
11:14
kicks back to um you'll also notice that
11:17
the seat angle will get a little bit
11:18
slacker as well cuz the whole bike is
11:19
lifting up and it's pivoting around the
11:21
rear wheel so you're lifting the BB and
11:24
you're also slackening those angles oh
11:26
just had a question come through here
11:28
what dropper post is that um that droper
11:30
post there is from raceface it's the
11:32
turbine R It's relatively new I think
11:34
it's only a few months old um race V and
11:39
fox racing shocks are owned they're
11:41
within the same company now um and
11:43
that's been uh geez I think for a couple
11:45
of years um so this dropper post is
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actually under the hood a fox transfer
11:51
it's exactly the same internally and
11:53
pretty much externally as a fox transfer
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you got the two twin bolt um saddle rail
11:57
mount up there this is 150 mm travel uh
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which I was able to fit in the blur
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frame which I was really happy with um
12:04
the seat tube's relatively short so that
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means I can get away with that 150 mil a
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drop U rather than having to a 125 or
12:11
even a 100 so that's cool um but yes it
12:14
is basically a fox transfer labeled as a
12:17
race face turbine that's a really nice
12:19
t-shirt will where could I get one of
12:21
those oh thank you Mark yeah it is
12:22
rather snazzy isn't it look at that nice
12:25
lay lines there this is a brand new
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shirt and uh I don't know if you can see
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see there it's all going to be back to
12:30
front anyway uh it's a new single track
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shirt um so thank you for the reminder
12:35
Mark if uh if you like this shirt give
12:37
us a thumbs up um give us a thumbs up if
12:40
you're enjoying this video and if you
12:41
got any questions for me drop them in
12:42
the comment section below but if you
12:44
like this shirt you can go on single TRW
12:45
world.com and you can get one shipped to
12:47
your door which is pretty cool uh we've
12:49
had another question come through from
12:50
Paul J got the fox transfer on my Rocky
12:52
fantastic post I totally 100% agree with
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you this is a really good drob of post
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the fox transfer is is already known as
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being a really good dropper post you'll
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notice this one's all black um Fox do a
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gold Factory series um transfer droper
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post so it's the transfer with a kushima
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coding that's the word I was looking for
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um they do a Gold version um but I've
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tested both and there's no difference
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you you cannot tell the difference and
13:21
uh it's arguable is if there's any
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actual difference aside from Aesthetics
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but if you go for the Black Performance
13:26
series version or the uh the Race Face
13:29
turbine R you'll save a bit of money um
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compared to the gold um transfer the
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kushima version of the transfer drop
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post so you don't you don't have to
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unless you really really want the gold
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which to be honest it does look pretty
13:43
cool um you don't have to get the gold
13:45
dropper post oh we've got Scott Travis
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will Barrett live yeah Live on YouTube
13:51
thanks for tuning in Scotty thanks for
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the comment uh what do we got here
13:56
comments uh what's the on the build and
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are they carbon Hoops yes they are
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carbon Hoops these are um Santa Cruz's
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own Reserve 27 Wheels now I was very
14:09
lucky to actually build these in Santa
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Cruz Factory when we went to the blur
14:13
launch earli this year so they carbon
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fiber rims they are the reserve 27 which
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means they have a 27 mm internal rim
14:21
width um and they're laced to DT Swiss
14:24
350 hubs with competition spokes J Ben
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32 uh 32 hole triple cross nice and
14:31
standard normal wheel build there's no
14:32
straight pull spokes or funky uh
14:35
proprietary spoke patterns or anything
14:36
like that here and these are really nice
14:38
Wheels you may have seen Danny mccal try
14:41
and destroy a set of these um in a video
14:43
a few months ago that went absolutely
14:45
viral um he ended up taking the tires
14:47
off the wheels and riding up and down
14:50
stairs uh before he was able to crack
14:52
one of the rims so um look for that
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video If you haven't watched it already
14:56
it's very entertaining um complete bike
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weight all right let's give you some
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weights so for the bike that we've got
15:02
here perhaps I should tell you the spec
15:04
first um because that will influence
15:07
your expectations of how light or how
15:10
heavy it is oh we've got another
15:11
question come through have you ridden
15:13
the same top spec how light can go
15:15
efficient ride um I'm not sure I fully
15:19
understand that question have you ridden
15:22
the same top spec I have ridden the
15:24
previous blur that I rode was the x01 um
15:27
Reserve model so it did have the same
15:29
drivetrain the same brakes uh it did
15:32
have slightly lighter Wheels it had the
15:34
reserve 25s which are a little bit
15:36
lighter than the reserve 27s um so yes
15:39
so I have had experience with the blur
15:40
in the cross country setup um and that
15:43
actually influenced this build I wanted
15:45
to try something different with this
15:47
particular bike because I did receive it
15:49
as a frame and we were able to build it
15:51
up as we wanted to so I've built it up
15:53
on the more Trail side of the spectrum
15:55
kind of to see how far we can push the
15:56
blur um because it felt very cap to me
15:59
when I first rode it so I wanted to see
16:01
what it was like with a bigger Fork
16:02
bigger tires bigger bars Dro a post you
16:05
know kind of set up fun just a really
16:07
fun kind of Trail oriented build um so
16:11
we're talking about the wheels Reserve
16:12
27s we've got Bontrager xr5 tires on
16:15
here these are 2.3 in wide on the note
16:18
of tires and I should point this out
16:20
there's plenty of clearance in the back
16:21
end with a 2.3 in Bond Trager xr5 I
16:24
reckon you could fit a 235 maybe even a
16:27
2.4 from some brands but it will depend
16:30
on the brand of tire and the size of Rim
16:33
that you run it on as to uh how much
16:36
Tire you can fit in the back end but I
16:38
can let you know that with this 2.3 in
16:39
tire on a 27 mil Rim loads of clearance
16:41
in the back end so that's not a problem
16:43
at all rest of the build we've got a
16:45
renthal cockpit up here this is a fat
16:47
bar carbon with a 35 mil diameter
16:49
matching stem um this is the Apex stem
16:53
it's 50 mm long the bars are 760 mm wide
16:58
and they're actually a bit wider cuz I'm
16:59
running these ergon GE grips which have
17:01
flared out at the end and overall they
17:03
add about 10 m extra to the bar width so
17:05
you're looking at kind of a s um 770 mm
17:09
width effective width of the handlebar
17:12
up here so pretty wide as I mentioned
17:14
the 120 mil Travel Fox 34 stepcast we've
17:17
also got x01 drivetrain with a new dub
17:20
crank set Race Face turban ey turbine uh
17:23
dropper post eron saddle on here as well
17:26
this is the new SM Pro saddle which so
17:29
far has been very very comfortable uh
17:31
which is what I'd expect for uron um and
17:33
we've got Shram level ultimate brakes
17:35
which very very lightweight very Schmick
17:38
complete weight do we have any guesses
17:40
does anyone want to guess how heavy this
17:43
bike is I'd love to know what you think
17:44
it weighs um now that I've run through
17:47
the build so see if you can guess the
17:49
right weight um drop them in the comment
17:52
section below and let me know what you
17:54
think this bike weighs I'm going to tell
17:55
you what the frame weighs cuz I did
17:57
weigh the bare frame now for the medium
18:00
blur CC we've got some responses coming
18:03
through Jack C 24.5 lb Chris H says
18:06
28.5 we've got 12 kilos here I like
18:09
kilos that is definitely language that I
18:11
speak so if anyone's going to convert
18:14
from pounds to kilos that would be
18:16
fantastic um the frame itself 2.25 kilos
18:21
2,250 G um now that's weighed with the
18:25
through axle on the back that's a DT
18:26
Swiss RWS through axle that with the
18:29
derailer hanger and it's also with the
18:31
seat clamp as well and the rubber bungs
18:33
for the cable routing so 20250 G it's a
18:39
little bit heavier than um than Santa
18:41
Cruz's claimed weight which is 260 g
18:45
which I did check this morning so it it
18:47
is it's about it's just under 200 g over
18:50
the claim weight so I don't know if
18:53
that's because they quote the frame
18:56
weight without paint because some brands
18:58
do
18:59
um and that might be where the
19:02
discrepancy comes from I'm not entirely
19:03
sure all I can tell you is at this Frame
19:05
behind me the medium size blur cc is
19:10
2250 G all right we've got another
19:13
Jackie thank you very much for
19:15
converting 11.2 kilos excellent guess
19:18
have we got any more guesses for this
19:19
complete bike weight and if you're uh if
19:22
you like the look of this bike why don't
19:23
you give us a thumbs up 16 kilos Suzie B
19:27
come on does this look like 16 15 kilos
19:29
no get off the grass seriously come on
19:33
serious serious guesses now see if you
19:35
can guess what this is I'm going to tell
19:36
you just shortly um but yes if you are
19:39
tuning in by all means uh this is Live
19:41
on YouTube so give us a thumbs up if
19:43
you're enjoying um this video give us a
19:45
thumbs up if you like this bike and tell
19:47
me if uh what you think if you like it
19:49
or if you don't like it uh because the
19:50
color is fairly polarizing I can I could
19:53
admit that £
19:54
27 that's what ah is that like 12 12.5
19:59
kilos we got 11.8 kilos from that was
20:04
from Carl 11.8 kilos we've got
20:09
1,2 125,000 migr from Chris H that is a
20:12
fantastic guess all right you want to
20:14
know how much it weighs it's 11.64 kg
20:18
that's for the complete bike as you see
20:19
it here without pedals so subtracting
20:22
pedals we've had another guest come
20:24
through that's Jep who said 10.6 kilos
20:27
it's a bit heavier than that uh 11.64
20:30
kilos so bear in mind we have the bigger
20:32
Fox 34 on the front Chris H gives a
20:34
thumbs up yes get in um bear in mind
20:38
that we have the bigger uh 34 Fork on
20:41
the front uh we've got pretty knobbly
20:43
tires on here these are about 900 G each
20:46
the bontreger xr5 so they are not
20:48
lightweight if you wanted race tires you
20:50
put on something was around 600 650 g um
20:54
something much much lighter we've
20:56
obviously got the dropper post on here
20:57
so that's adding quite a few grams the
20:59
saddle isn't light either um I've
21:02
weighed this and it's about 250 g so you
21:04
could save quite a bit there bar and
21:06
stem yeah you could save some there too
21:08
so um I reckon you could easily get this
21:11
down to around 10 kilos or sub 10 kilos
21:14
if you were building it to be a
21:16
lightweight cross country race bike we
21:17
haven't done that though or I haven't
21:19
done that um I built this to be more of
21:21
a trail bike so with the bigger fork
21:23
with the chunkier at tires dropper post
21:25
and so on um I'll go through some oh
21:28
Trek Bontrager fan yes it appears that
21:31
Ben does like Tre and Bontrager
21:33
merchandise there's a trek single track
21:35
up here can you guys see that um that's
21:38
actually a very very old frame a 990
21:40
very cool um there's lots of really cool
21:43
memorabilia in here so maybe we should
21:44
do a video at some point I can show you
21:46
a bit more of Ben's Workshop so uh let
21:48
me know if you want to see a bit more of
21:50
that um right so back to this guy here
21:54
um couple of features that I really like
21:55
on this bike threaded bottom bracket
21:58
fantastic really really pleased with
22:00
that oh we got another comment come
22:01
through got demo day coming up next
22:03
Saturday looking forward to try it AJ
22:05
Adventures excellent yeah let me know
22:07
what you think about it um I've got a
22:09
few friends of mine who are racing on
22:11
the blur at the moment um they're quite
22:13
big fans of it but U but always good to
22:16
hear um what everyone else thinks of
22:18
this bike
22:20
um so yeah tell me what you think once
22:22
you've had a chance to to ride on it it'
22:23
be interesting to see how it's built up
22:25
as well um so features on this bike oh
22:30
one feature I didn't like oh Mark ala
22:32
said my first bike was a Tre 930 single
22:35
track no way let you go so similar
22:37
vintage up here that's pretty impressive
22:39
that's um doesn't show how old you are
22:41
at all Mark
22:43
um um one thing I did want to talk about
22:46
so I'm just looking at my list down here
22:48
um internal cable routing on this bike
22:50
so I did a live video when we first
22:52
built this and it took about 3 hours it
22:54
was literally a three-hour video that we
22:56
did live in the single track Workshop
22:59
and uh probably about half of that was
23:01
spent trying to do the cable rooting how
23:04
long did it take in the end oh we've got
23:06
we've got someone here who saw that
23:07
original
23:08
video um it you know what it was
23:11
actually really quick once I knew what I
23:13
was doing um there are a couple of
23:17
sections so we'll just talk about the
23:18
rear derailer hanger I've got a a haha
23:22
up there yeah thanks yeah it was
23:24
hilarious for me doing a live video when
23:26
when I couldn't cable route this stupid
23:28
frame um so there's a a section of
23:31
internal down the down tube and we've
23:33
also got a section through the upper
23:35
seat stay as well um for both of those
23:38
sections you get in the Box um a type of
23:41
foam tube and that tube goes around the
23:44
cable and the idea is it's to stop the
23:46
cable from tapping and making noise
23:49
inside the frame inside the down tube
23:52
great idea but it is a total pain in the
23:54
ass of fit it takes it takes a bit of uh
23:57
practice and fortunately I had a bit of
23:59
practice on this cuz I did recable it um
24:01
again to make sure the cables are spot
24:03
on um but getting the cable through the
24:07
head tube down to the bottom of the uh
24:11
the down tube here uh the park tools
24:13
internal routing kit makes that so easy
24:16
so you have that blue wire with a
24:18
threaded end on it and the magnetic end
24:21
and you drag the mic magnetic end
24:23
through with a big magnet and that draws
24:25
the cable through you can thread it into
24:27
the gear cable and then drag it through
24:29
so that's actually quite easy with the
24:32
seat stay this was the part that caused
24:34
me the most grief when I was doing that
24:35
live video and it's because you can't
24:37
use that blue internal routing kit with
24:40
the seat stay that's because the port
24:43
down the bottom here you can't really
24:44
see that in too much detail but it's
24:46
shaped in such a way it's curved and it
24:48
means the end of the park tool IR kit it
24:51
won't fit through it just won't happen
24:53
what you need to do is do it the
24:54
oldfashioned way so you just poke the
24:56
gear Cable in from the derailer end
24:58
thread it through and then with a pick
25:01
and a light shine it up there see the
25:03
cable and draw it through and it's
25:05
actually quite easy to do it sounds like
25:07
a total pain in the ass but it wasn't
25:08
too bad so once you get that through
25:10
then you can draw the cable up through
25:12
the down tube as well uh once you get
25:14
that up there then you put the foam tube
25:16
around and you squish it down into the
25:18
down tube takes a bit of practice I can
25:20
encourage um if you're going to do it
25:22
yourself um you will need a bit of
25:24
patience uh but now I've done it a
25:25
couple of times is actually pretty easy
25:27
and to be honest and unless you're
25:28
building this up as a frame only um your
25:31
mechanic who uh where you buy the bike
25:33
from will have done all this for you so
25:35
it's kind of a moot point um but yes
25:37
initially a total pain in the ass but
25:39
now that I've done it a couple of times
25:40
the internal routing is actually quite
25:42
easy to do and here's another big thumbs
25:44
up for Santa Cruz as well as the
25:46
threaded bottom bracket we have fully
25:48
external brake routing so the brake line
25:51
runs on the top of the down tube and
25:53
underneath the seat stay on the swing
25:55
arm um so the hydraulic disc brake hose
25:58
is fully uh you don't have to cut that
26:00
you don't have to thread it through
26:01
anything thank you Santa Cruz let's see
26:04
more of that please gear cables are
26:06
pretty straightforward and drop a post
26:08
cables hydraulic brake lines um having
26:10
to cut those and push them through a
26:12
frame and having oil go everywhere is uh
26:15
we could do without that so if any other
26:17
manufacturers are watching now please
26:19
let's keep Disc break lines on the
26:21
outside of the frame I would uh I would
26:23
be very up for that uh right anyone
26:26
tuning in now we've got oh we've got 28
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26:30
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26:37
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26:40
answer those questions for you and uh um
26:43
or if you've got any any critical
26:44
feedback you know we're always open to
26:46
constructive criticism for sure um right
26:49
the next thing I want to talk about this
26:50
bik we were talking about the fork foot
26:52
before the 120 mil travel Fork um I'm
26:56
also doing some offset testing on this
26:57
bike
26:58
um so this Fork is available this is the
27:01
29er version of the fox 34 stepcast you
27:04
can get this in 44 mil offset and 51 mm
27:08
offset Now 51 is generally the standard
27:11
offset for a 29er fork um but the last
27:14
couple of years there's been a bit of a
27:16
push with shorter offsets to basically
27:19
uh bring the offset in increase the
27:22
trail or mechanical Trail of the um the
27:25
front end steering to create more
27:27
stability
27:28
now Santa Cruz did design the blur
27:31
around a 44 mil Fork offset they did
27:33
primarily design it around 100 mm travel
27:35
fork and that was the bike that I rode
27:37
at the launch and uh and I found the
27:39
steering to be fantastic it was more the
27:41
skinny Fork that I found was more of an
27:43
issue when trying to trying to push that
27:45
bike to its limits now we've got the 120
27:48
mil travel Fork on there there's two
27:50
different schools of thought with
27:51
offset um because with the 120 mil
27:54
travel Fork we're slackening off the
27:56
head angle to about 68°
27:58
roughly um so the front end is becoming
28:01
slacker and it is becoming taller as
28:03
well with the bigger Fork on there that
28:06
is going to slow down the steering slack
28:08
ahead angle you increase Trail that's
28:11
just how it happens in theory you could
28:14
run the longer 120 mil fork with the 51
28:17
mm offset which decreases Trail and and
28:21
in theory almost neutralizes the effect
28:25
of going to the longer fork in terms of
28:27
the effect it has on the steering um so
28:31
I currently I do have the 51 mm offset
28:34
Fork on here but I have been testing
28:35
this bike with a 44 mm offset I'm going
28:38
to be doing a separate feature on that I
28:39
need more time to do some back-to-back
28:42
testing um but early impressions are
28:45
that it basically does what you'd expect
28:47
it to um if you've if you've read any
28:50
reviews or features or Tech articles
28:52
about Fork offset there've been a lot
28:54
lately people have been really getting
28:56
into it I know white and transition have
28:58
been kind of proponents of that short um
29:01
offset Scott Ransom that I was testing
29:03
recently that's gone to a 44 mil offset
29:05
pivot Firebird 29 a lot of big travel
29:08
uro bikes are going to a shorter Fork
29:10
offet on their 29ers and that's to
29:12
increase Trail that's that's what it's
29:15
about primarily um but
29:18
interestingly you've got all these big
29:20
uro bikes that are doing the short
29:22
offset thing but a lot of brands are
29:23
doing it with their cross country race
29:25
bikes too in between say like the stump
29:28
jumper um or the fuel ex um these kind
29:32
of Do-it all um multi-purpose kind of
29:35
mid travel trail bikes they're sticking
29:37
with the 51 mil offset from what I've
29:39
noticed anyway and I'm speaking
29:42
generally here but the uro bikes and the
29:45
cross country bikes these
29:47
29ers um so for cross country I'm
29:50
thinking the blur good
29:52
example um Canyon exceed hard
29:55
tail um specialized epic FSR these are
30:00
three examples there are more but these
30:02
are three examples that are going to a
30:04
shorter 44 mm offset rather than the
30:07
standard 51 now the 51 mil offset's kind
30:10
of been sold to us over the last few
30:11
years actually by these guys Gary fiser
30:13
and track they they were kind of the
30:15
main proponents of the longer 51 mil
30:17
offset and the idea was to decrease the
30:20
trail measurement um now the way i' I've
30:23
been thinking a lot about Trail while
30:26
riding this bike I've been thinking a
30:27
lot about Trail and how that affects the
30:29
handling and probably the easiest way to
30:33
explain it is the longer the trail
30:36
measurement so the the further away the
30:38
steering axis is away from the tire
30:40
contact patch the kind of the longer
30:43
that um that lever is um it effectively
30:48
stabilizes the steering you get more of
30:50
a stabilizing effect if you're kind of
30:52
going through through tight twisty
30:54
trails and uh which are quite fast and
30:56
Whippy you'll find that longer Trail
30:59
shorter offset longer Trail remember
31:01
it's the reverse um has more of a
31:04
steadying kind of stabilizing effect
31:06
it's kind of like having more damping to
31:08
the steering that's that's a good way of
31:11
describing it I think um or perhaps that
31:14
the steering feels a little stickier
31:16
it's harder to kind of you know make
31:18
those really quick short directional
31:20
changes um it requires more effort I
31:22
should say to get those to get those
31:24
same um directional
31:26
changes um but you find that the
31:28
steering feels steadier and kind of uh
31:31
more steadfast so on on a big travel in
31:34
eurobike like 160 170 mil travel 29er
31:38
you know big monster of a bike that
31:39
you're going to be riding down crazy ews
31:42
Trails super steep kind of terrain uh
31:45
really fast as well that longer Trail
31:48
and shorter offset is beneficial for
31:50
keeping the bike feeling stable um and
31:53
more steady in those kind of
31:54
environments the same ethos has been
31:56
applied to cross country race B bikes so
31:59
the specialized epic FSR the canyon
32:01
exceed and the Santa Cruz Blur the the
32:03
concept is that these bikes are already
32:05
pretty whippy and pretty Nimble um as
32:08
they are Twitchy if you will and the
32:11
shorter offset kind of steadies that
32:13
neutralizes that twitchiness it kind of
32:15
dials it back a little bit without
32:17
having to go to a really slack head
32:18
angle so that's kind of the school of
32:20
thought with the CrossCountry race bike
32:22
stuff um so there you go that's that's a
32:24
long kind of description about forof set
32:27
um but yes so at the moment we've got
32:29
the 51 mm offset on the blur and I have
32:32
exactly the same Fork Fox 34 Factory
32:34
stepcast Fork um with a 44 mil offset um
32:39
so I'll be doing some more back-to-back
32:40
testing we'll do a separate feature and
32:42
I'll do a separate video specifically
32:44
about that but if You' got any questions
32:46
for me about this bigger fork and offset
32:49
um drop them in the comment section now
32:51
right here um we're live on YouTube so I
32:53
can answer those for you now if you like
32:56
um or not um otherwise if you you
32:57
enjoying the video give me a thumbs up
32:59
and let me know where in the world
33:00
you're watching from um I know we've got
33:02
followers um all over the globe so it's
33:04
always cool to hear whereabouts you're
33:06
from and perhaps where you're riding
33:07
today um I'd love to know so um so yes
33:11
so we've got um Fork off set we've
33:13
talked about frame features um oh I want
33:16
to talk about bottom bracket height
33:18
because that's been affected with this
33:19
bigger fork with the extra 20 mm of
33:22
travel on the front that's static when
33:24
you're sagged on the bike it's a little
33:25
bit less than that anyway semantics um
33:28
the bottom bracket does lift up as well
33:31
and um I haven't noticed that which is
33:35
kind of exactly the point I've I haven't
33:37
clipped any rocks I haven't clipped any
33:39
Roots I've had loads of pedal clearance
33:42
because there is so much room underneath
33:44
the bottom bracket it doesn't feel high
33:46
it doesn't feel like I'm on top of the
33:48
bike on a really kind of tall and
33:50
awkward to ride thing um it feels normal
33:53
but I have noticed that in really Rocky
33:55
terrain and and around Bendigo where I
33:57
live um a lot of the climbs are really
34:00
Technical and they're full of kind of
34:02
slabby rocks and baby head size kind of
34:04
Boulders and stuff and I'm just yet to
34:07
kind of clip a pedal and stall um which
34:10
I would sort of normally expect on other
34:12
CrossCountry bikes um Scott spark for
34:15
example is a really cracking cross
34:17
country bike but it is a bit low in the
34:19
BB and that was a bike that I did find
34:22
it was clipping a little bit more um
34:24
than usual perhaps but with this blur
34:26
with the 120 mil travel for for we just
34:28
kind of lifted everything off the ground
34:29
a bit um loads of clearance and for for
34:32
cross country riding and cross country
34:34
racing um that's a really good thing oh
34:36
we've had a question come through did
34:37
you ride the new BMC fourstroke um
34:40
comparison modern geometry no I have not
34:43
um that's a pretty new bike um but they
34:45
are available in Australia so I might be
34:47
able to get my hands on one to test
34:48
because they do look really good the as
34:50
you've said the modern geometry on there
34:52
um is a really interesting thing which
34:54
is filtering through kind of cross
34:56
country race bikes so the the kind of
34:59
long and slack and low type geometry
35:01
ethos we've seen
35:04
across mostly Trail and uro bikes and of
35:07
course downhill is kind of where that's
35:08
come from but it's filtering through the
35:10
cross country bikes like this guy here
35:12
there probably good uh good excuse to
35:14
talk about the geometry on this bike
35:15
because it is pretty modern I think um
35:17
for a race bike um with the 100 Mil
35:20
travel Fork it's 69 head angle which as
35:23
we said kicks out to about 68 roughly I
35:25
will check that for you um so 68 with
35:28
the bigger Fork on there and we're
35:30
talking a 74° seat angle which is also
35:33
slacker with the um uh with the bigger
35:36
Fork on there but I have pushed the seat
35:37
forward just to steepen the effective
35:39
seat angle Reach This is the medium siiz
35:42
frame and the reach is 440 mm which for
35:46
a cross country race bike is I wouldn't
35:49
say it's extraordinarily long but it is
35:51
long um most tend to be around that 420
35:53
430 mark for a mediumsized cross country
35:56
race bike um um in fact the new Canyon
35:59
neuron CF which came out a couple of
36:01
days ago um that's a 130 mm travel trail
36:04
bike so much bigger travel than this and
36:06
that's a 433 mm reach so this is even
36:09
longer than that and that means your
36:11
front center is quite long that's the
36:12
distance from the BB to the front hub
36:15
that distance there is quite long
36:16
especially with the bigger fork and the
36:18
slacker head angle um and that's all
36:20
about improving stability so at speed on
36:23
descents in rough terrain it's all about
36:25
steadying the bike with that nice long
36:27
wheel base um Santa Cruz have kept the
36:30
back end pretty short it's 432 mm which
36:33
I think is exactly right um for this
36:35
bike anyway it's going shorter than that
36:38
will give you a more crisp kind of
36:41
steering more kind of intuitive handling
36:43
as well um the shorter the back end is
36:46
generally the more Nimble you'll find a
36:48
bike will steer but there is a tradeoff
36:51
um and that's generally kind of
36:52
high-speed stability you find that the
36:54
shorter back end will skip around a bit
36:56
more um
36:58
but also um climbing traction and
37:01
climbing efficiency as well the shorter
37:03
the back end is there the easier it is
37:06
to kind of pivot um and lift up the
37:08
front wheel so you're pivoting on the
37:09
back wheel because that leave is shorter
37:12
it's kind of easier to do um so with a
37:14
shorter back end you might be more
37:16
likely to skip out and slide out the
37:18
rear tire um the longer the back end you
37:20
know if we if we extended this way way
37:22
out um you find climbing tends to be
37:25
really good because you've you've got a
37:26
much more stable back end that keeps the
37:28
front wheel planted so 432 mm which I
37:31
think is a good number for this bike um
37:33
it's a good mixture of that kind of
37:35
climbing climbing traction and and
37:38
climbing efficiency uh whilst also
37:40
keeping the bike agile
37:42
too um I mentioned here cockpit setup I
37:45
should probably touch on that briefly
37:47
this is a 50 mm long stem and 760 mm
37:49
wide bars and um that combination with
37:52
the longer travel Fork on there it gives
37:54
this bike a load of uh a load of
37:57
stability and a load of Brawn on the
37:58
front so when you're on the on the
38:00
hangers and you're descending um with
38:03
this nice plush 120 mil travel Fork on
38:06
the front it doesn't feel like a cross
38:07
country race bike it doesn't feel like
38:09
you're on a 2 kilo carbon fiber 100 Mil
38:12
travel race bike you know um and this is
38:14
a bike that people are racing in cross
38:16
country races EXO cross country Marathon
38:19
612 hour 24hour Enduros that kind of
38:21
thing um but it doesn't feel like that
38:24
with this kind of Bly setup it feels
38:26
like a trail bike it feels like a fast
38:27
trail bike and uh that's kind of what I
38:30
wanted to get out of it and I've uh so
38:32
far been really impressed with the the
38:34
result of this kind of spec choice on
38:37
here The Dropper post if you don't have
38:39
one on your cross country bike and you
38:41
can fit one I cannot recommend it enough
38:43
yes it will add weight and if you're
38:45
really sensitive about grams then you'll
38:47
probably just want a carbon rigid post I
38:49
completely get that um but the
38:51
difference this has on your riding um I
38:54
think is it makes a big big difference
38:56
and especially on a cross country bike
38:58
it's more noticeable than it is on a
38:59
bigger travel bike because you've got
39:02
less suspension on this bike compared to
39:04
stay 140 15 mil travel trail bike so
39:07
your arms and your legs are your extra
39:09
suspension and if you can get the saddle
39:11
out of the way you can bend your knees
39:13
you can get down low you can bend your
39:14
elbows and all of a sudden you've got
39:16
your whole body to move around on the
39:18
bike and absorb bigger hits and impacts
39:20
so I think you can get a away with a lot
39:23
more with a dropper post on here so that
39:24
is recommended for sure um but yeah I'm
39:28
going to be doing a bit more of a
39:29
feature about this bike in its current
39:31
setup um if you've got any questions
39:33
about the particular components that
39:35
we're running on here maybe you've got
39:37
some suggestions is there any new
39:38
product that you'd like to see tested on
39:40
this bike um any sort of lightweight
39:42
CrossCountry wheels or different Forks
39:45
or different cockpits or drivetrains let
39:48
me know what you'd like to see us test
39:50
on this bike this is a long-term test
39:51
frame which we are using to test a
39:53
variety of different components so if
39:55
there's anything you want to see tested
39:57
if there's anything you're interested in
39:58
buying but you're not sure whether it's
40:00
good or not or how it's going to react
40:02
on the trail or what sort of Rider it's
40:04
designed for let me know I'd love to
40:06
hear your suggestions and uh we'll see
40:08
what we can do so yeah as I said we'll
40:11
have a full feature coming on this bike
40:12
um I'm going to be doing a lot more
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testing with the two forks that I've got
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with offset and uh we'll have a separate
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feature coming on that for those of you
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who are interested in fork offet and
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what that does to the steering and the
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overall bike's handling as well um but
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yeah I might leave it at that we've
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still got people tuning in live so hello
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to everyone who's watching and thanks
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for joining um this live Q&A session
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with myself will from single track and
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the Santa Cruz Blur behind me here um
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I'm in Ben's wonderful Workshop oh we
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got a question come through I have the
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blur XLR kit what do you think about the
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lockout All or nothing this is my first
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bike with lockout that's a really really
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good question um let's have a look here
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Andrew Flower thank you for the question
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um you'll notice I don't have a lockout
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on this shock so all of the blurs do
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come with a remote lockout on that
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normally sits up on the handlebar and
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you have a cable that runs down to the
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top of the shock here and that gives you
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on or off so it's uh for cross country
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racing and for those who are worried
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about efficiency that remote lockout is
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fantastic it gives you a really firm
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platform so you just flick that button
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out of the saddle hammer and you've got
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a basically rigid bike you know so for
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Fire Road sections for flat climbs uh
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sorry for for flat roads bitchman um
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anything where you don't need that
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suspension using that lockout is is
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great and I think that's I think that's
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a really good tool for cross country
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Racers or endurance and marathon races
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that's that's a really good tool for me
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I'm not so competitive and I've I've
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kind of built this bike as a trail bike
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so I actually sent this shock to Fox in
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the UK before we left the UK and I got
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it converted into a regular shock um
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mostly because I didn't want the remote
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lock out on the handlebar because it
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looks kind of a bit cluttered with the
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extra cable I wanted it really nice and
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clean and I knew I didn't need that
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remote lockout so I wanted to make this
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bike as clean as and uh and as neat as
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possible um to do that with the fox rear
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shock you do require a different eyelet
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it's not an easy job to do um at home
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for example um it is possible to do so
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if you've already got a blur at the
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moment and you have the remote lock out
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um I would say use it use it first if
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it's something that's really you find
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really useful keep it you know if it's
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something that you don't use whatsoever
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at all we've got Andrew sometimes I wish
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I had a middle ground the conversion
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sounds yeah absolutely yeah I think um
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that on or off lockout it's great for
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racing um but I think if you're more
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trail riding you know if you're doing
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less competitive riding if you're out
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with your mates for a long weekend of of
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trail riding somewhere there are
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sections where perhaps smooth uphill
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climbs where you don't want it fully
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locked out because there are still bumps
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coming your way but you want a little
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bit firmer because you want to sit High
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you want to get forward on the bike you
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want the whole thing to lift up a little
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bit you don't want it sagging into the
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travel and kind of bogging you down um
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so I absolutely agree that three
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position remote would be a nice um uh
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would be a nice feature um but all the
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blurs do come with the two position
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which is just on or off um but yes if
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you if you want to have a look at doing
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it get in contact with your local bike
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shop or your local Fox distributor
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wherever in the world you are Andrew um
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and they'll be able to give you a quote
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on what that conversion will cost um
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because it does require a few different
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parts to be changed around um but I like
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it I I think it looks really clean I
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think this bike pedals really well
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without a a lockout I don't really think
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it's necessary um particularly when
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you're really you know kind of really
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sprinting and powering on the pedals
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because of the antis Squat and this VPP
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suspension design it does firm up so you
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find it's really stable when you're
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sprinting if you're just cruising and
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you're kind of like plotting along you
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will get suspension Bob out of this
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design it it doesn't have so much anti-
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squat that it's just locked out whenever
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you're pedaling which I think is a good
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thing because it means the suspension is
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more reactive and more comfortable to
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ride on rough terrain um if you build a
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bike with too much antis squat you end
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up with really firm suspension design
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lots of pedal Kickback and it can be a
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little bit uh a little bit rough to ride
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when the terrain is rough so um I think
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Santa Cruz have got the balance pretty r
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on this um but personally for my use I
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don't find the need for the remote
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lockout but that's entirely up to you uh
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where in the world you at the moment
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says Paul J I'm in Bendigo Australia um
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so I moved from the UK uh about two and
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a half 3 weeks ago and my wife and I
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have relocated oh Andrew said I
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appreciate your time thanks for the help
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no worries my pleasure my pleasure um
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thanks for the question as well I really
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appreciate you guys tuning in and and
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asking questions about uh about this
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bike um so yes we re relocated about 3
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weeks ago we're here in Australia uh in
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Bendigo uh which is a couple hours north
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of Melbourne for those of you who aren't
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familiar with Australian geography and
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uh yes we'll be here and definitely I'll
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be working for single track remotely so
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um you'll be seeing many more videos
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like this hopefully in Ben's wonderful
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Workshop which I think you'll agree is a
45:09
pretty cool space or what you can see at
45:10
the moment anyway I'll show you the rest
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of it later um so yes we'll be testing
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bikes here in Australia and uh and I'll
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45:30
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45:32
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45:34
around Victoria that I'm eager to
45:36
explore that have opened up in the last
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couple of years while I've been away in
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the UK so uh we'll have plenty coming
45:42
from those in the near future so I'm
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probably going to wrap that up that's 45
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minutes worth of live video so uh I need
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to go drink some water um thank you so
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much for tuning in guys I really
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next time so now I'm just going to work
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out how to end this video and that could
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take a while all right John Wills nice
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one will very informative thanks John
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thanks for watching all the way from the
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UK well uh yes hello and thanks for
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tuning in and same to everyone thank you
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very much all right I'm going to head
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off I'll see you guys next time tur
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