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Fresh Goods Friday 731: The Humpty Dance Edition
Nov 16, 2024
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in this week's special Good Friday we
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have Fox winter apparel including the
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drop frame pro helmet some single track
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mugs and Andy from Privateer will be
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showing us his new bike
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[Music]
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hello welcome to fresh CS Friday
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731 my name is Benji as usual and today
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we are joined by Andy hello who is from
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Rider firm Privateer hunt that
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Collective K yeah and what do we have
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today I
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wonder it's the Privateer 161 is it
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called Gen 2 officially well it's it is
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a Gen 2 bike but it is called the
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private 161 this is the only 161
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available yep
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and what difference is it from the
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previous one let's just go with that oh
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my goodness like that's like how long is
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a piece of string pretty much well
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geometry wise very similar to the
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original bike uh but I suppose the the
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main difference is with this obviously
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it looks a bit different yep um we've
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got more adjustability with this bike so
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you can run mullet on it so you we got
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flip chip here so you can mullet the
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bike and it doesn't affect the
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kinematics all and that was a big uh
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request from the Gen one bike loads of
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people were asking can we mullet it can
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we mullet it so obviously for genu we
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decided to Mullet it we've also given it
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a uh flip chip in the rear which gives
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you 10 mil of adjustment okay so this
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bike there is a P3 so you can run it
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from 448 to 458 mil on the Chain stay
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okay or the rear center right so those
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two are the the big main adjustments on
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it the other change is the kinematic
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it's totally different on this bike okay
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obviously The Rocker has changed and
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everything it's lineally linearly
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Progressive I think I said that
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correctly yeah so um it ramps up really
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really well and the idea being is you
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can like rag into something really fast
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be confident that you're not going to
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blow through all your travel and the
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suspension is always going to be
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tracking right um it's like it's almost
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like um we can't do it here cuz there's
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no air in it but once you put some air
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in it and set it up give it a squish
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there's basically no effort to break
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away on the top end so it's really
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subtle off the top as well right that's
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one a TR bunion as well no it wasn't
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yeah right okay that's a 20560 shock in
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this
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161 mil of travel okay uh but you can
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overstroke it with a 65 stroke with 174
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mil travel that no no no no and uh yeah
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we've beefed up the front end of it as
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well so you've got your regular 170 mot
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travel Fork that comes on as standard
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okay or you could bu down all four kind
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it a triple clamper triple clamp right
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good well I bet you can get a lot of
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triple clamps for not a lot of money in
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Sales single go to like 190 now don't
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that is true yeah you can a bit of a
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beast so um yeah this is a P3 size so
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490 reach okay yeah more bottle room
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load of B bot yeah you got plenty of
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room in here and some friendly bolts
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over there what's the official name of
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those accessory M friendly bolts bolts
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that is the official name let's get that
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off the grounded here at single track P1
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P2 P3 and there's a P4 as well there is
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yeah right okay the p1's come in a
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mullet out of the box so obviously if
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you're a bit shorter you might find you
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have issue with Tire Buzz cuz big rear
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wheel okay so out the box it's a mullet
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but if you wanted you can run a 29 so it
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doesn't still compatible and then like
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spec Wise It's very similar to the G one
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bike so we've got Haze Dom minion A4
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brakes on it which fantastic if you used
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those brakes fantastic for brakes we've
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got a performance Elite suspension front
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and rear so the basically the best it
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doesn't have the fancy kushima
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goldion it yeah grip two SLX drive train
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12-speed OBS and we've got an XT shifter
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because that's where your performance
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comes from
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why haven't you put the cables through
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the headset because um people don't like
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it all right that's like the well so
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the're all external which is a good
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retainment of the previous way is it
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yeah yeah so the idea is like we want
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the bikes to be easy to work on so
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external cable routing means like if so
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the 161 is meant to be a private a race
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bike yeah yeah so if you're at a race
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you do your practice you do your quales
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or whatever you come down to the bottom
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of the trail you get to your pit and
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you're like oh booger my hose is leaking
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I need to change a brake so it's nice
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and easy you can do it all externally
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private a doesn't have a mechanic yeah y
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so make it super super easy to work on
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it's great for bike reviewers too
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because they can swap parts over dead
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easy nothing to worry about threading it
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through yeah um yeah so easy to maintain
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is is one of the reasons for the
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external cable routing okay that's also
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a reason why all the hardware is
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one-sided Hardware so you only need an
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allen key on one side to nip it up
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so some bikes you need like double to
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tighten it up but we've done it all
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one-sided okay and that's the same with
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the flip chips we made the flip chips
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super easy to use because what's the
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point of having a feature you can't
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actually use so on the trail you could
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swap to long and short dead easy the
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brake mount turns around too so you
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don't need any other Hardware okay if
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you wanted to ride around with a mullet
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wheel on the back of your back as well
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you could change the mullet while you're
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riding around but I don't think many
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people want to do that might have one in
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the boot at the trail head maybe yeah
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yeah yeah stash in the bush yeah fine
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yeah and then we've got really nice soft
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uh compound uh frame protectors too
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that's good yeah we run the chain really
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close to the chain set stop it from
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flapping about yeah cuz uh what What's
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your opinion onal pedal K pedal Kickback
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well chains are heavy people chains are
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surprisingly heavy aren't they and
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that's what's always if you have anybody
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watched like slow-mo video Yeah of
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anyone riding a by ever yeah yeah that
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yeah and that's what's yanking on your
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pedals yeah so we've put done this to
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stop that yanking on your pedals so it's
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AIT little bit less fatiguing on uh long
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dist a little bit you can't see it from
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there but there's a little bit of uh
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inside rubber on the that bit as too as
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well get out of it Well Done Right good
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yeah super quiet these bikes excellent
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anything tell you what I like I bet the
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um there's a distinct lack of Torx head
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bolts which is my new Enemy by the way
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I'm just deciding to campaign against
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Torx
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around the more the normal bolts and the
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all slips out cuz it's tap it's
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just better stop it you could in theory
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with um a decent multitool like um
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what's that Crank Brothers one that pops
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out with a oh I want to an acronym but
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it'll be wrong something 15 I think it's
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called in picture here SOS no no it's
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not anyway well that that you could
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basically take this Bart obviously not
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the bottom bracket and things like that
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but you could service it with minimal
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all so right that's another reason like
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we want it like the worst thing would be
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to buy a bike ride it for a little bit
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and then have to fix it replace
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something wait for a certain part or
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whatever so we make them bomb prooof so
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you can ride them nonstop always ride
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them hard pop them away dirty just like
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Ross does well yeah this is his isn't it
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isn't he going to have this when he goes
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later on well that's why wrapped it
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because we know he's going to crash well
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well touch wood chip board touch that he
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does or doesn't right how much much
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pound is it it's uh £
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3,989 okay it this is the spec the only
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spec the only color which is ever green
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yep but during Black Friday we we're
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doing like um an upgrade so you'll get
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um free so no additional cost okay
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carbon fiber wheels on it so they're the
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new proven hcore wheel set so they
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actually only launched like a month ago
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so proven has been on the market for a
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while this is the new uh an updated
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version and has a new hcore technology
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in it which makes them crazy strong
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they're super super strong they're so
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strong we've trusted uh Ross with our
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like version to test it's all about
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avoiding what's the word when there's
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little bits of all in them the opposite
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of compaction I don't know yeah yeah so
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we we trying to avoid paracity in that's
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good one yeah I like that it's cold and
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well that's what the engineers tell me
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they could just be winding me up you're
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learning Yeah so basically on uh we're
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getting into all sorts should have
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brought wheel with me we got whiteboard
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so we could if you um on carbon rims uh
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not just our rims but most carbon rims
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the issue is uh when you're um putting
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up your carbon fiber and your resin into
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the mold it's really difficult to ensure
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that it's all fully compacted and all
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the airs come out okay so what can
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happen is little voids can appear in the
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um the junction between the sidewall and
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the rim bed and if that happens that's a
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weak point if you whack it on a rock as
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you ride in it cracks so HC cor this new
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technology it basically a it's a
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pultruded Loop of carbon fiber yep and
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because of the way it's manufactured it
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there is no um paracity in it it's solid
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carbon fiber high carbon low resin we
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put that into that area while we're
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layering it up put it through the
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regular process and it's just Rock Solid
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there honestly crazy strong but yeah
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that's the endural wheel you'll get with
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that for no extra cost what's that like
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a grand on its own or something they're
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11,49 retail um but if you wanted to buy
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those Wheels they're on Black Friday at
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the moment for which is not just Black
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Friday December November the 20 whatever
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Black Friday month all the time
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basically in it webs anyway so that Rim
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reminded me of basically it's like blind
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baking a flan base put in your uh your
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weighted balls in it in it so you don't
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have
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any air you want I want to get some of
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those weighted balls ceramic aren't they
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I don't know have no idea they're in a
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jar in cupboard no idea insert info here
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well that's a pretty uh compelling deal
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isn't it well yeah I reckon for under
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four grand right it's I think it's
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please prove me wrong in the comments uh
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or try at least that you can't get a
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bike for four grand under four grand
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with this spe so basically the best
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suspension you can get if you're not
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bother about Kashima decent drivetrain
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decent Wheels really good tires amazing
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brakes well thought out frame and wheels
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the carbon wheels with a free lifetime
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crash replac a lot of people are going
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to be spending say a lot not a lot of
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people spend anything but there's a few
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people who would get spend that money on
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a carbon bike with alloy wheels totally
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daed right get an alloy bike with
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plastic Carbon wheels can't call them
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plastic carbon fber what you come
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composite so alloy bike Carbon wheels
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and that will be the fast thing which is
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a feature that's maybe will happen one
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day if I pull my finger out
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so yes there you go and if you don't
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want 160 mil travel we've been told to
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hurry up so I'm going to speak slowly
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yeah if you don't want where you go for
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your holidays uh I I don't go on holiday
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I work work work done done there's a one
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141 as well and it's very similar
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specification it has a 36 instead of a
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38 Shram GX drive train on it obviously
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14150 mil travel and although they look
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like the same frame they're not they're
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completely different frames even a
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different linkage too so they're not
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compatible with each other okay uh the
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141 isn't dual Crown ready though I
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we've not tested it to be dual Crown
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ready but there's no reason why it
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shouldn't be so what's the maximum
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travel you're allowing on the 200 mil
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get in yeah 200 mil so you can race it
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downhill then you race Enduro and if
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you're super fit you can race cross turn
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it too there you go it's an everything
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bike bu one
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today if you want to yeah it's fine go
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for it why not right are we sign it off
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don't lean on it it'll fall over won't
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it well that's that's what that's one we
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on is it no I'm pointing at the other
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fresh good stuff CU you're you want me
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to all right yeah what we're going to do
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like a clap I think we should do that
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and as we land we land on the
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sofa oh for God's sake come that
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outa what yeah this is going to be
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horrific it is yeah so I'm going to put
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that down like that right J you don't
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fall
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oh yeah the bite might fall on me land
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so jump ready 1
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two hello oh my mega sa again indeed
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talking of sacks we have some clothing
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from Fox hold those up in the air wave
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them like you just don't care Adventure
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Brown they're uh CoCo Brown I think
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definitely coco or something y they are
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they're waterproof which is like water
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is that what called water defend is that
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the name I think they are hang on they'
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be um a pretty penny I think defend
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three L water pant what's the 3 L for
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three layers probably which means it's
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slightly got like a a little bit of a
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lining to M so it's not too cold and
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clammy against any bare flesh you may
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have inside 32 in Waist those think they
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do them in black as well 179 sheets to
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you or anyone yeah I like this do 99 P
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the ratchet strap to make for micro
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adjustments especially good for
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Christmas is it yeah because before
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Christmas you're thinner and then after
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Christmas you're I am bigger I do so
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much riding at Christmas so I got the
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other way really bloody house don't you
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and it's got some nice pockets as well
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with storm what you call them storm Zips
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yep and at the bottom there are some get
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your shoes on and off type things so
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give those a go time of year in it like
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very cool is there any reflective
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material on I don't know well you'll
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soon find out just come out of the
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pocket packet pocket I might go home in
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them if it starts to rain but it won't
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do I do like them they're a nice color
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these are lady gloves so you can inspect
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those but please do not wear oh man
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those are defend gloves think they're
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just normal AR these waterproof too is
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the defend the waterproof yeah be some
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kind of
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dwr mhm is that durable water repellency
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think it is uh all the gloves are $34.99
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these are a little bit more Hefty mhm
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those are quite a nice little shimy
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little fox face on there oh wow they're
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going to be roasting well it was 3° this
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morning on the way in really yeah not
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the not the band I felt three de I F I
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actually felt the temperature drop as I
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was going past that lake huling with
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Lake it yeah range of fire they are yeah
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they're going to be super super hot
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they're quite a thick material and I
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like this grippiness soing yeah so you
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can grip your brakes and stuff um I
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imagine because it's got that little bit
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on there is that conductive so you can
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use your MobileOne yes yeah it will be
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they've got to be haven't they can't not
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have them true feel uh how can you Tik
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to without that uh which I have on other
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Fox gloves and they are nice yeah they
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do look good fo gloves like it open up
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that box wonder what could be in
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there it sorry it's chips oh no it's a
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helmet loads of pads spare pads for
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different cheek sizes so hopefully this
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is a winter friendly crash
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hat with side coverings what do we call
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them fenders like what's that type of
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helmet it's called as well it's a drop
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frame Pro is its proper name it's a half
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isn't it it's a yeah yeah that looks
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nice that so they've got they've filled
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in a bit more holes than last time they
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did it I think they probably still do
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the drop frame normal which had a you
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could see your whole ear I think from
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memory mhm um I'm interested in that
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keeping me warm but still been able to
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breathe it's got some sort of myips as
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well in here myips evolve core is that
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there you go that's uh loads of colors
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that's about all I know just that's just
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around this morning I'm about the loop
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now there's a few different types of
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mips yeah that is
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259 99 it's quite light as well that you
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know that's surprisingly light dayare
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you to wear it what size helmets do you
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normally wear um I don't know let's find
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out I don't know what the that's not
16:29
rtion things he doing at the back no
16:31
that's not going to it's got a magnetic
16:34
though which I like on you you squish it
16:36
on I'm deeply medium you got
16:42
it suits you that should wear it for the
16:46
rest of the day yeah right fine is it
16:48
glasses friendly can you hear me as well
16:50
oh yeah it's all right your ear is right
16:52
where the hole is there that's really
16:54
good for like when you're on the road
16:55
and stuff y or when you m a show drop in
16:58
had doesn't feel like it's chipmunking
17:00
me too
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much no if if I want that Vibe I could
17:04
insert some of these that was are
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thinner aren't they right yeah so that's
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good is it how much is that sorry
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$259.99 not bad I mean it saves your
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life Yeah well
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yeah 25 quid elements save your life I
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wouldn't go for a
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uh value argument exactly yeah buy one
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if you want if you got the money you
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don't have to it's not essential can I
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ask a question yes please where would I
17:29
get one of these from single TRW
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world.com sshop how much are they no
17:34
idea Michael shouted us 13.99 1.99 look
17:37
at that and you can f I reckon you can
17:39
fit a full T and that for people who
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are low low eyesight or looking on a
17:46
very small phone what does that say
17:48
what's the uh Legend written on that bad
17:51
decisions make great stories there you
17:52
go and does that come is there a story
17:54
behind that I think wasn't it from a
17:57
contributor for or someone or that was
18:00
Charlie that that was it Charlie yeah
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God Rest his
18:06
soul he's not dead no he's not he's just
18:08
covered in bum but somewh he is yeah
18:10
he'll be here probably lurking behind
18:13
some ITN news presenter somewhere trying
18:15
to get some more
18:17
coverage probably across the Atlantic
18:19
right excellent well thank you for
18:20
coming in I don't think we've got
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anything else you need to know want to
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say there is this sh that's not meant to
18:26
be announced I don't even know what it
18:28
is what you're talking about right
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that's all for now uh like subscribe I
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don't know whatever if you enjoy this
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goodness right let's Tik Tok dance
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before we to end what's a Tik Tok dance
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I don't know is this what is Tik Tok I
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don't
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know they're uh Tik Tok aren't they from
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um um no robots aren't they Tik Tok from
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byy bitty what's that book Rogers no oh
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oh twey twey Tweaky right so well that's
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the new social thing we're going to work
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on is Tweaky Tweaky yeah that sounds a
19:04
bit odd get developing that one right
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what's up bck that could be the
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notification yep and he used to have a
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doctor around his neck that was actually
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a
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thing yes you did see this is what
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happened when you had nothing else to
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watch we all had shared Collective
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memories good luck young people you
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dispersed
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diaspora right let's go bye for now
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thanks for coming in see you next week
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in this week's Fresh Goods Friday we
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have
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Fox already gone wrong right helmet
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yeah Fox winter stuff right in this
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Fresh Goods Friday we have Fox winter
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apparel including a drop frame Crow hat
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a mug and Andy from Privateer he'll be
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showing his his new thing
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bik FR Friday
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731 I'm not going to say a number so
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takes up a valuable two10 of a second
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every other word each
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okay
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sayate
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right in this week's fres Good Friday we
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have
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[Laughter]
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right I'm can have that one that
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way around look
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mhm in this week's special Goods Friday
20:49
we have Fox winter apparel including the
20:51
drop frame pro helmet some single track
20:53
mugs and Andy from Privateer will be
20:55
showing us his new bike
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