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There may be no racing yet, but that hasn’t stopped the podcasts rolling. In his first ever podcast, this week we have Laurie Greenland.
At 23 years of age Laurie Greenland is on the perfect trajectory to the very top of the sport. Junior World Cup Champion, Junior World Champion & 1 of only 4 Elite Men to win a World Cup round in 2019. George & Jack chat with Laurie via Zoom about everything from attending a Steiner School to signing with Red Bull.
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welcome to the making of the numbers
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podcast the making up the numbers
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revolution by park wall of the world's
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finest independent mountain bike
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magazine singletrack hello everyone and
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welcome to episode 3 of season 2 of the
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making of the numbers podcast I'm George
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Thompson and after the success of last
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week's podcast with Danny Hart with
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straight Makati on Zoom this week and
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once again the video will be available
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if you prefer to watch us on the
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singletrack youtube channel
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no hosting with me tonight once again is
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jet ready how are we Jack evening George
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yeah doing some gym work I'm running out
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of things to jet wash your own
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[Music]
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Lena I mean even jet what's the fence
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twice now and shed even the dog stand
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get worried so in 2019 there were 8
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rounds of the UCI World Cup for the
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world championships that's 9 races and
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out of those nine races in the elite
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men's category
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there were only four winners two of them
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were French like Bruni and a Maori para
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two of them were British and last week
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we have one of those Brits Danny ha ah
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Monsieur
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this week we're absolutely delighted to
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welcome the other one welcome to the
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show Laurie Greenland hey thank you very
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much we're all good mate where in the
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world are you at the moment and how are
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you getting on with the social distance
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then yeah just my girlfriend but yeah
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well yeah we were so last minute I saw
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Jack in Portugal I think you know last
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minute coming into the season so buying
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some chair everything that it was
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actually quite nice to know the first
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would have been delayed after that I
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seen got pretty bored so yeah I'm still
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making the most of my home trails and
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stuff this it's getting pretty boring
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learning you be managing to get some
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training done
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yeah I was lucky enough at Red Bull
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something out there the home gym so yeah
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I don't very big spaces next to me here
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but but yeah I was lucky enough that
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robe or something out of a care package
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so yeah we're we're keeping it in shape
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but I don't think it's possible for us
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to stay on that peak just where we were
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a few weeks back into until we race
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again so we're in a little bit of a
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trough hoping to come out sometime in
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summer that but yes I'm just taking it
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along I'm not going crazy yeah look we
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don't usually go that far back on this
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podcast as we try and focus on the
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racing there's no racing at the moment
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and I can't recall you doing a podcast
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previously it have you done one before
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just trying roadie do do mostly speaking
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in terms of everything yeah yeah we've
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no Gailey racing to focus on so let's go
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back a little bit forever and I know you
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and Jack get on pretty well and there's
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a few thing you want if things he wants
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to ask you about so I'll let you start
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Jack over to you George so yeah Laurie
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great to have you on the podcast like
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George said I want to start by saying
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that around the pitch you're known has
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been a very humble very modest guy but
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you're also a very very confident person
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to be around
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I've been told by people I think it was
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Polly Morris but you didn't know the
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traditional schooling system when you
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were younger caucus through the school
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days and what was different about it
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what did you experience that you think
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might have been different what most kids
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had yes oh yes so I went to a stylist
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school don't know if you've heard of
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that but it's a sort of it's quite a
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more relaxed approach for an education
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they study you kind of know reading and
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writing pretty late and it definitely is
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a more relaxed kind of environment I
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know a lot of people call their
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it'd be your words being a being an
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athlete in a blatant some extreme sports
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person from a young age it was pretty
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cool to go there so again what was that
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so what age did the Steiner school start
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so was it from high school or was it
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even before that yeah that was from when
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I was about 10 years old so I went
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through just normal traditional stay
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school yes and then one therefore so the
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next six or seven years was about 16 or
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17 when I know it was cool I I think for
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us one of those things it's definitely
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not for everyone
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yeah but especially people like me who
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kind of I reckon you'd agree that uh
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sort of the extreme sports athletes are
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pretty different mentally to a lot of
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people so to someone like me I was just
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such an energetic decision was it to
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send you there Laurie nice and do you
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think it's played quite a big role in
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the person you've become today yeah II
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thought so is so it's quite hard to say
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really because there were there were a
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lot of people so one of those places
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where everyone seems no room so I'm
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pretty sure they love myself wouldn't
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have been too far off but definitely
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just that that support and sort of
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bigger picture understanding sometimes
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for each individual was was pretty cool
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to grow where they definitely shaped
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evolve where a lot of our approach
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situations were so how influential has
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it been in terms of the racing
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we're they're very supportive towards
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your sporting aspirations
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yeah it's sort of thing that I dare I'd
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ask for a weekend not going racing all
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or thoughts like a Thursday Friday and
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it would always be a we'd have to put up
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no fight to get the time off there they
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really understood it so yeah a lot of
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them I know like in there in the school
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meeting room where their teachers hang
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out set they keep like on the notice
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boards how I'm doing even these dating
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things so I think they all like sort of
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thing with it's quite small numbers the
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teachers will come quite so personally
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invested in your future in your solar
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sails pretty cool but yeah Bristol was
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not a big place everyone knows everyone
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so it's nice yes hug up today
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yeah nice fair enough so and obviously
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you said it was a good place to go being
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into the extreme sports and just sports
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and general things like that how old
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were you when cast your mind back how
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old were you when you realize that the
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down hill was for you and you wanted to
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have a career in downhill so be honest
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for you oh yeah so I grew up over the
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road from the skate park so that's all
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bikes from a very young age was
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definitely why I decided I wanted to do
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it sort of thing where my dad going to
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mountain biking and I followed I never
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actually thought I can't remember the
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first time I thought this is what I want
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to do is just having a lot of fun riding
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my dad really says just being such a
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competitive person I think naturally you
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just want more and more more and that
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just plays into racing so it's one as
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I've always had quite serious approach
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to it
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a lot of the approach has been fun edgy
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tail fun it spins there yeah just a
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natural kind of you just followed what
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you were doing it yeah a natural came
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into this already
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absolutely how big a player was your dad
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in your eyes through downhill I know
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he's been yeah yeah massive massive
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really is the sort of thing where you
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know my daddy's he's not he's not that
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old he's quite young dad so a lot of it
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was he wanted to ride his bike you know
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you need to take me on as a sort of
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thing so
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although early days racing I race
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because sir that's what he wanted to do
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so it's yeah pretty much
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when did your when when did you start
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racing cuz I know you dad used to do all
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the Dragon series and stuff yeah but
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your roots and ran kind of starts in
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2012 or something like that I think were
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you racing under edge before that were
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you and somehow I ended up doing three
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years in the juvenile we didn't know
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what we do mister never asked about your
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bracelet thing but yeah I think I raced
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the year earlier alright okay so wide
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open team helped you through your youth
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years will you juvenile with wide open
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as well it was like just youth just a
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youth and then obviously you moved over
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to trap world racing how much of a jump
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was it jumping from the wide open to the
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track cell was it a big change
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oh it was ridiculous a is that I can
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still remember the first time I sort of
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looked at the big track world racing
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truck in there so my name on the side of
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it is a huge jump and like just from
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I've never really done much interviews
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and stuff like that in the past in the
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first tournament the first team
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interview we did was I they draw a
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cinema hall empty now and we were
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immense the black screens at the back in
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front of this big cinema with all the
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track guys from the US there I should
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say oh so no meticulous hold it um well
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yeah yeah luckily I was on my first year
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truck was there with their Greg
10:58
Williamson Brooke McDonald in here
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George run against it and any communally
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says it was a pretty cool punches in
11:06
terms of the whole setup it was big but
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a pre Cena realized that they were just
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doing the exact same thing I wasn't
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pretty chill guys look the first time I
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I kind of met you Laurie was
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cast your mind back to national champs
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2014 in ELISA yeah Saturday evening it
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must have been kind of 6 p.m. or later I
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remember it was still sunny and we were
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heading up for a trap walk and on the
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bottom section we'd come across this
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young lad who's still on the hill all on
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his own pushing up and hitting a section
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over and over and it was a line between
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two trees and it was you know it was bar
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width plus a couple of inches on either
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side and you were hitting it faster and
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faster do you remember that at all yeah
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dusty yeah it was yeah yeah I remember
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we tried to you for a bit and you
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explained why hitting that line was so
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important and as impressive as it kind
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of was the thing that struck me wasn't
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the line at the time it was the fact
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that we'd walk through the car park and
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all the other young lads were down at
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the bottom messing around trying to
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impress the girls when each other
12:19
probably making a rotten art of building
12:22
a jumper award in some some bricks and
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but you're not no interesting that
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whatsoever you were just there hitting
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this line over and over again have you
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always had that that focused with you
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racing does that come naturally yeah I
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think so I think a lot of people would
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say differently as well which is quite
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funny but that that sort of things
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always come so natural to me that night
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sort of attention to detail yeah and
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there I definitely explain myself as
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being quite particular it really kind of
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oh yeah just got a real high attention
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to detail so I think stuff like that
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sort of it's always been apart me
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everything saying okay you won that
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weekend taking the national title in
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your first year as a junior a few weeks
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later you grabbed a second marybelle
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behind version and then he took a silver
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medal at the worlds in hospital a couple
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of weeks after that also behind Virgie
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with with us the kind of initial moments
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where you thought I can do this
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yeah I guess the first time I stepped on
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the World Cup box was there definitely
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we're a bit of an explosion went on in
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my head and I kind of realized that
13:44
things were starting to kind of take the
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box this was thanks to x8 and I was
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there yes definitely definitely knew
13:54
that none of us doing this for a reason
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and there was no doubt in my head that
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that was where I was on my way to yeah
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definitely at that time when when I I
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met you in Italy 'then and I remember
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walking away and saying to benzy who I
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was with you can see the difference
14:14
between someone who's gonna make it and
14:16
people who aren't yeah that in you and
14:20
that's why I followed you from there
14:22
just to see you know in my head where
14:24
you would make it to it it's nice to see
14:27
the way you've gone if you know what I
14:28
mean ya know it's funny
14:33
I've never really realized it but
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obviously working with oli Morris this
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year he's been helping me out kind of
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all through offseason and with training
14:43
getting bike sir
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okay he's gonna come and do some lines
14:46
body but yeah he always say so that
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either say that I wouldn't believe the
14:51
amount of people that don't know what
14:53
I'm really like he says there's a real
14:57
bigger sort of kind of Sherrod I think
15:03
called being is really too late but
15:05
going but it doesn't it's not why not
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really it's how I feel so much like a
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sort of defense mechanism
15:22
yeah and I guess because you're in the
15:24
public eye it's easy for people to look
15:26
through the window get that initial
15:28
perception from you just from what you
15:30
portray yeah as you say they don't
15:33
really know who you are
15:35
whereas someone like me who spends all
15:37
that time with you knows what's poured
15:39
into it knows what you like and as
15:41
George just said like
15:43
there's not everyone who can be the best
15:45
in the world and to be the best in the
15:47
world you've got a you're gonna live and
15:49
breathe it so mmm 20 2015 year second
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year junior you do Seco second at
15:57
Lourdes second at Fort William thirdly a
15:59
gang and then boom you go on this I mean
16:02
that's an amazing room but you go on a
16:04
really amazing run when's our hide first
16:07
national champs at Franklin Monson and
16:10
first at Windham Byrd Valdez Earl you
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win the World Cups
16:14
Harry's gold at junior world champs in
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Valmont
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that's like a hell of a run tell us a
16:20
bit about what it feels like when you're
16:23
on a run like that and how you deal with
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the pressure when you're the favorite to
16:27
win a race yeah
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yes for me it's that thing once I've
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done it once it's it's really on you
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just know you know mentally they can
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happen again so for me all the pressure
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does relief I know for a lot of people
16:44
they say once you've done it once it's
16:46
really hard to do it again I seem to
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find throughout everything whether it be
16:50
myself or BM a skateboard once I've done
16:54
one thing I want to do it seems to be
16:57
easy it's happen again it's oh yeah I
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guess it's also when it's the first time
17:02
thing your team's start to realize you
17:05
can do they treat little bit differently
17:07
in it all the boxes starts just click
17:09
bone cells it's an amazing feeling when
17:13
you won that World Cup Series at what
17:16
point did you win it did you and you
17:17
want it before Val D sold before the
17:19
final round
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yeah so won it in Windham I think it was
17:26
couple weeks before I can quote remember
17:29
but there we ended up the points in it
17:32
to know everyone there won the overall
17:33
already in when Doman yeah I think
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that's why I remember so race I was so
17:38
scared about myself before world champs
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yeah it's one of those things were too
17:45
near is probably an easiest
17:48
sound ever to try and secure the rainbow
17:51
so so I'm not going to die a happy man
17:54
and less and get the ring oh no I think
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I'd take over third in the overall
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Jersey was today really good weekend yo
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man being so nervous before my run we
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more we're more nervous before that run
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or the world champs room
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yeah how did he deal with that land
18:21
you're the favorite to win you've just
18:23
won the overall yeah I knew he was
18:31
racing that kind of shifted whole
18:35
confidence run I was getting going all
18:38
of a sudden there was another kid in the
18:39
next hit straight to the air they were
18:40
in the air so definitely back in the air
18:45
first time game they're serious thoughts
18:48
not yeah that's funny he'll better
18:51
weather than mine Laurie who you main
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competitors when you were a second years
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Union yeah if you remember Andrew
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Crimmins remember him he was a royal
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fast Ozzy junior writer I was going to
19:05
ask you about this because I when it did
19:07
some research obviously before I've done
19:08
his podcast and I saw his name coming up
19:11
again and again and I had never heard of
19:13
guy either he won didn't he won some
19:16
some World Cups I think he won in Leo
19:17
going if I remember right yeah he's
19:25
still a real fast road I think he's
19:27
they're just I think for some of those
19:30
Ozzy juniors coming over to Europe for
19:33
the first time racing the big races all
19:35
the travel all the time away from home
19:38
and all that pressure if you've started
19:40
winning as well as can be it's a big job
19:44
so in those first kind of years it's
19:48
quite precarious but especially if
19:51
you're from also I think is they're
19:52
quite easy to these a lot of detail the
19:55
travel strain pressure just living so
19:59
far away it and also you have to be a
20:01
certain
20:02
type of person don't you have to want it
20:04
and you have to love it basically yeah
20:08
and the other thing is am I right in
20:09
remembering did he start writing for
20:11
Kona yes yeah so the other thing is like
20:15
he's obviously doing very well as a
20:16
junior and then if you're not on the
20:18
best contract and you're having to
20:20
travel from Australia and you're away
20:22
from home all the time you might not be
20:23
really not much money as Laurie says you
20:25
a couple of races don't go your way and
20:27
it might be quite easy starts Wyatt so
20:35
you with Trek and you've won the World
20:36
Cup Series and the world champs and at
20:39
the end of the cities and you moved to
20:40
ms monde wrecker how why did that move
20:44
come about because I have thought Trek
20:46
would have done everything to try and
20:47
keep you there yeah I guess the first
20:50
kind of thing was the track World Racing
20:54
team was wasn't going to happen to the
20:56
next year those ready team mates decided
21:01
swear kind of yes it was up in the air
21:07
to know what track would do not I heard
21:09
rumors of them being with the effort ins
21:11
but maybe no and maybe this so I was
21:15
pretty desperate to secure myself a bit
21:18
of a and a sports sooner than late over
21:20
there yeah yes also let's draw the line
21:26
but it's been a good Junior sort of
21:29
couple years and it was it was
21:32
definitely going to be a big change
21:33
going to release I thought also felt
21:35
like a bigger a big change in a new
21:38
style really I got to run things up and
21:41
I was like you're not scared to change
21:43
teams if you know what I mean yeah kind
21:47
of I was a little scared as yes there
21:52
was more effective my old team there
21:53
kind of stopping running another she's
21:56
making it were there options had on the
21:58
table a spoke so I remember speaking to
22:00
our kiss when I was in there because I
22:03
would have been on Dora world's than
22:05
just there just got such a good vibe
22:08
from the going really really enjoyed how
22:11
we was putting everything across and
22:13
yeah I've been on the team
22:16
since oh yeah he just had a real good
22:18
friendly sort of really felt like you're
22:22
on the same level as him kind of in what
22:25
you both want aired and also how how we
22:27
kind of said he wanted to treat the team
22:31
so yeah just from speaking to him
22:35
earlier just to would be the right thing
22:37
to do
22:38
nice well good memories from the
22:40
tractors those two years were yeah they
22:43
were cool man is one year so we me in
22:49
some of the truck boys ran into a place
22:51
in in Germany so we spent the whole
22:53
summer together I just say rhodium
22:58
especially with Brooke and roses Kiwis
23:00
opened my eyes up to these things we're
23:07
pretty different to anything I've sort
23:10
of done before it's real fun just there
23:13
yes it was a cool cool good fun
23:15
atmosphere with those boys I think I'd
23:17
already know the answer to this book
23:18
who's the rider on on that track team
23:21
that gave you the most help when you
23:22
were a junior
23:24
yes sir Brooke Brooke Brooke was real
23:28
cool we was there I remember on my first
23:33
thing was the first team campy he sat
23:36
down next to me decided you and followed
23:38
me races and me to handle anything he
23:40
just hit me up say he's real good he
23:43
just saw one of those dudes saying you'd
23:47
be decided to see like serious first
23:51
glance said yeah luckily just he was
23:54
real cool real help me out you've spent
23:57
must be a kind of pro career with Brooke
24:00
have you spoken to him recently how's he
24:02
doing yeah he seems obviously we were
24:07
pretty scared but when he broke his back
24:09
in Monson and in there yes first it was
24:13
a big relief especially someone I was
24:16
kind of sort of associated woke up
24:18
racing in mind my job my tray was so yes
24:22
there was a heavy place the team and has
24:25
been real cool to see his progress and
24:26
how hard he's working but
24:29
to be honest he came with Peter bedtime
24:34
you have any idea when he'll be when
24:36
he'll be back
24:38
he wanted to be back for round three in
24:41
the World Cup this year was there so he
24:45
was looking to cool about the sugar was
24:47
looking it coming back to there he
24:49
wasn't sure I don't think him I'm not
24:52
sure in the inspections they seemed
24:54
really seriously about it yet was quite
24:56
a while ago but that was a that was a
24:59
mercury set I think yeah I think I think
25:03
it's probably sort of a good idea kissa
25:06
P we come back when you are actually
25:08
completely ready
25:09
it's go time everyone knows you're
25:12
completely ready but if you come back
25:14
when you're still getting the ball
25:15
rolling and you join if you tell the
25:18
media it's only your team and friends
25:20
your family just gonna go in there you
25:23
know you might then practice and then
25:24
pulled out a dino mode and Rowleys and
25:26
then just you get used to being in that
25:29
race environment again and just be
25:31
around the time you're ready to go
25:32
you're you you're at home Serling
25:35
absolutely Donovan I'm Maria speaking
25:38
too much about that I could kind of
25:39
understand why he would do that
25:42
also the break is so 2016 got a really
25:54
solid kind of first season in Italy you
25:56
were eight at Fort William nine that
25:58
vowel nod and he finished 14th in the
26:01
overall then we all had it - probably
26:03
soul for worlds and you grab a silver
26:05
medal the whole team finished one two
26:07
three you know everyone knows about that
26:09
talk us through that weekend a bit yeah
26:13
but we can was preachers probably I
26:17
remember going in feeling like I was
26:20
really getting to grips with Stafford
26:23
got used to being in here leaked angry
26:24
got my bike real dialed in sort of Cena
26:27
that takes a bit of time when you first
26:28
kind of evokes a Sarah yeah my dad was
26:33
there and that weekend for some reason
26:35
we just
26:37
yes it really felt like the real deal
26:39
your first a neat world to slay all
26:42
systems firing semi-double zone we're
26:45
just going to such a good role on track
26:47
like he was being there traded
26:49
mastermind coming up with all these
26:51
crazy lines that no one else is doing
26:54
here though it's just a real good week
26:56
from start to finish we're working for a
26:58
while the team and my dad's up of course
27:02
good some definitely one of those ones
27:07
where the first two rains the weekend go
27:11
real well than one year you're sort of
27:14
on cloud nine for the rest it's like
27:16
especially with me any any opportunity I
27:19
get to really go fool hundred times for
27:26
a few minutes is I can it's easy so I'm
27:28
pretty aware of how dangerous it is and
27:31
the edge every time you writing them so
27:36
known for being quite at least going
27:37
camera that if you actually in practice
27:39
I often and when I watch some of the
27:42
vote rules and start to feel like I'm
27:44
licking like one of the kind of taking
27:48
this slow guys on track say no I yeah as
27:54
he said earlier he does always look
27:56
calculated and that'll feed into one of
27:58
the questions I wrote later about the
28:01
bow the soul run from last year but yeah
28:02
yeah then when you quit school yeah when
28:06
you've got you your family at home
28:08
wanting to give it you just give it 100
28:10
percent you throw your friends and your
28:13
dad just wanting you to clear absolutely
28:19
online it's like it really is an excuse
28:21
to just so fully drop the hammer on it
28:24
it kind of be a change you got if you're
28:28
going down you've got very serious
28:29
support there yeah it's just a real sort
28:34
of feeling that everyone you know wants
28:36
you to just give their 100% and it's
28:38
just like a takes the men who train off
28:41
so hurting yourself of anything so make
28:43
sure you say which is why I think you
28:46
love this really never racing
28:48
well when the dust had settled we could
28:50
just buzzing to be on the podium or was
28:53
there a tiny bit a disappointment that
28:55
you'd come ii would have been so many
29:09
interview so much precious so much stuff
29:13
go on over the offseason yes you piece
29:15
titled okay a contract race missing
29:18
crazy stuff for quite a young age in
29:21
your first year you releasing I think
29:24
gain second on that day for me looking
29:28
back on it I think was the best result
29:30
possible to enable me to kind of really
29:34
see that it was that close but also
29:36
there was a lot of work that needed to
29:39
happen and I could also do from the same
29:41
moment I sort of just got used to you
29:44
your first year I mean say no I think
29:48
that I was I kind of realized that pre
29:51
see they were saying the best result on
29:54
the day yeah cool do you think there is
29:58
something about the mom Drecker and
30:00
Baldassare yeah I guess there seems to
30:03
be a lot of people who think so instead
30:06
of fact you give results a it's there
30:08
it's definitely one of those folks that
30:10
is a it's just a rough ground eater say
30:16
girl rough tracks it seems to always
30:19
feel the best on so winter 2016 I think
30:22
you're headed out to New Zealand
30:23
something you've done regularly I think
30:26
talk us through what motivated that
30:28
decision and what you've learned from
30:30
from being out there
30:33
yeah I guess so I had been there before
30:37
just for a few weeks for my family and
30:39
yeah yes just so getting to know the
30:44
Kiwis from Georgia broken yeah having a
30:47
while throughout the earring and just
30:49
the prospects of missing winter I think
30:51
was there but the idea of that to me was
30:55
mental so yeah packed up in that for
30:57
their guy got a band I didn't have a
30:59
whole lot of cash yet so I got a van and
31:03
lived in that for for five months out
31:05
there as awesome time yeah and it must
31:10
have like developed a lot of life skills
31:13
as doing that as well as you know I
31:16
suppose keeping the fitness and the
31:18
biking going but a lot of life skills
31:20
while you're out there the other side of
31:22
the world I went and lived on the other
31:23
side of the world for five months and it
31:26
changed me quite a lot as a person
31:29
yeah I think just being on the other
31:33
side of the world without your parents
31:36
living without it being erased for the
31:39
first time is quite open oh yeah just
31:43
you learned that is pretty hard to
31:46
manage yourself when it's only you know
31:49
sort of doing your schedule and just
31:51
trying to make the most out your time
31:53
comes quite hard without without someone
31:56
at home some kind of your trainer for
32:00
example telling you when to drain when
32:02
to this and to do that and there so
32:04
living at home so with your family is
32:07
pretty hard is there - I spent my first
32:10
trip away I would say
32:13
it was more about the experience that
32:16
troops than a full-on so doing the best
32:20
thing at possibly could for the next
32:23
year it was sort a lot of experience was
32:25
done in their tool of local stuff and
32:29
yeah training wise I probably would have
32:34
been better off staying at home where
32:36
home-cooked meal every now and again I'm
32:39
trained with my trainers in the whole
32:43
it's sort of always feel like you should
32:46
only do what you really feel like you
32:49
should do I don't like to rush yeah
32:55
young kid Oh Justin pretty well world
32:58
champs it's time to go have a laugh and
33:00
Gannett get as much riding in and
33:02
five-time as I possibly could to yes
33:06
definitely was beginning to start to
33:09
understand but more than mechanics and
33:11
geometry different lengths of this and
33:14
that so it was good to just go away and
33:16
right yeah just start to get my head
33:21
around being a professional athlete off
33:24
my over but 2017 you had another solid
33:27
year with like when you first world cup
33:29
podium at lens I hide 2018 you go one
33:33
better you go third at lea going then
33:34
second at Val D so for that Val mold
33:38
finishing fifth in the overall it's like
33:41
textbook isn't it it's if there's a
33:44
perfect trajectory to kind of be your
33:46
honor Anya are you taking these things
33:48
off as you go along but kind of I guess
33:54
so mentally I set myself a goal for the
33:58
year yeah and so far it's almost always
34:03
been fully completed by the end of the
34:05
year but most of all I like to set
34:07
realistic goals for me personally not
34:11
anyone else so yeah I'm smoking quite a
34:15
lot and pass about so we're taking what
34:19
the best so if you
34:22
for these were that were my age and what
34:25
they did in the past and comparing
34:27
yourself you like right in 2019 that
34:31
person got a second and did this in the
34:33
overall that that was why I needed to do
34:36
to sort of thing right just look at what
34:38
riders have done in the past and if I
34:40
couldn't do that at the same age as them
34:44
then things weren't going well yeah it
34:49
kind of makes it feel like people have
34:51
done it you work on you do it sort of
34:54
thing obviously the sports always
34:56
progressing it's gonna be hard it's do
34:59
it but just basing yourself off what
35:01
other people done I guess kind of makes
35:04
it seem career realistic
35:06
I never thought about about that concept
35:09
before Nia yeah I was looking at when I
35:13
was obviously when I was researching
35:14
this I was looking at the previous
35:16
Junior World Champions and I think it
35:19
was Troy won it twice I think it might
35:21
have been 10 and 11 and then like the
35:24
year after so if they weren't in 12 and
35:28
you won it and was it 15 so you're kind
35:32
of there at that peak I would say now
35:34
they're at the top of the sport but
35:37
you're kind of knocking on the door
35:39
they're a lot younger than their well I
35:42
supposed to like was knocking on the
35:44
door at that age wasn't it yeah yeah so
35:48
on to last season think
35:54
someone told me may have been even
35:56
durably Dena Walker on this podcast that
35:58
he didn't trace the ixs in Mary Bob
36:01
because you didn't want to be bought the
36:04
track for the World Cup the week after
36:06
yeah he's all right yeah definitely
36:12
for me I really struggle with if I'm not
36:16
so I gained something new I hope
36:18
retracted I'm not learning something so
36:23
keeping on building I really struggled
36:26
to just smash out run off to run off and
36:29
enjoy myself so normally when I start to
36:33
get a bit comfortable and a bit so I
36:38
wouldn't say over it a bit all of the
36:42
track I tend to start crashing and I end
36:44
up going slow how it's a hard one but
36:49
for the first World Cup looking back on
36:51
it I think it probably should have gone
36:53
because it's just that first time
36:55
getting the team together it's like
36:58
getting the bank back together and doing
36:59
you first dress rehearsal yeah that's
37:03
going to be yeah
37:06
to be honest um I don't like to do do a
37:09
race on a track before the track is just
37:12
because I wanted to be fair for everyone
37:14
as well as yeah it's kind of how quickly
37:17
does it take you to kind of get bored of
37:20
a track and at what point would you
37:23
start slowing down so I've had to do a
37:27
few test sessions before the day after a
37:29
welcome yeah when you're like just just
37:34
so over it you've feet to this point
37:37
about the best you can possibly get and
37:41
you're not going to get there again the
37:43
next day
37:43
unless you've crashed in the finals or
37:45
something like that so sometimes you'll
37:47
be testing with free light poles with
37:49
there and you know new tonight they
37:52
motor our new shark or tires motor
37:55
developed or something other than you
37:56
you can just never get to that same
37:59
speed you up before and yeah this it's
38:03
so difficult so for me if I'm
38:08
three four days max and that's it
38:11
winter once Sanremo this offseason we
38:16
did we did five days out there
38:19
by the third day all sorts Ines of peach
38:21
fourth day started pushing my liking on
38:24
the fifth day I was oh right
38:26
so united some I'm not writing for the
38:29
rest of today and just Johnny head slam
38:32
the game anymore so yeah three or four
38:36
notes that too tired and start to make
38:38
mistakes and get frustrated with
38:40
yourself and you just you start to slip
38:44
because you know the trucks arrive well
38:46
the the first world cup didn't go too
38:48
bad you seeded fourth finished ninth
38:51
15th or Fort William you were twelve
38:54
seconds back on a mallory which came
38:56
back now on kind of what you achieved
38:58
last season his fair distance were you
39:00
pair in on the weather in Fort William
39:03
more than the weather going to pass
39:11
couple seasons I'd always run a neck
39:14
brace and right in the neck brace to not
39:18
write it neck brace trained easy writing
39:19
style massively in fur but that year I
39:22
think of taking it off and being able to
39:24
sort of being that much further over the
39:26
bars and that much more that much lower
39:29
on your bike yes people were open that
39:32
grace tend to write quite upright and
39:34
people without can get quite a lot more
39:36
and have spread of the virus in the boat
39:38
began to feel really different and
39:43
really sketchy to wait it before as
39:45
their yeah definitely no shame in it
39:48
mean I was really struggling at the
39:50
staff started the air to trying to get
39:53
that feeling back that seemed to have
39:55
performer the same size by some reason
39:59
it'll change so we we started kind of a
40:03
few weeks before that thought will then
40:05
woke up to try and get the sizing thing
40:07
down we got here a little bit for
40:10
falling but we really under the nail on
40:14
the head yet knows I was getting quite
40:15
frustrated so getting used to this new
40:18
so writing style and
40:21
was very conscious about a style of five
40:26
right here wouldn't it to have and what
40:29
what we were getting back from kind of
40:31
video me and the team helping out with
40:34
Jenny syrup says I was getting quite
40:36
frustrated trying to get that alright in
40:38
it sir don't think it really clicked
40:42
into at least Endora that yeah I think
40:44
that was the first time that I've really
40:47
to feel you get kind of liking when I
40:51
feel good on the bike you already get
40:52
like a sense of being almost really
40:55
cocky and especially in terms you just
40:58
feel like no matter what you do you're
41:00
not going down you just know it's all
41:02
gonna work it's like a real sense that
41:04
yes yes I haven't really been named that
41:10
so far wasn't that happy was their soul
41:13
replays I was watching back on their on
41:15
the revelry places yeah don't think it
41:18
all got go on a console at least and or
41:21
is this all linked to the heard you talk
41:23
somewhere about changing the body
41:24
position was that before last season and
41:26
is that all linked to the to the neck
41:28
brace yeah kind of the process over the
41:32
course of a few days Rooney first took
41:35
the brace off and then realized I could
41:37
sort of start to use different
41:39
techniques and positions and stuff and
41:42
just took a couple years to really get
41:45
to I guess well right now which is
41:48
they're always working pro dancer
41:51
you took 19 Endora then third English
41:55
year and then we arrived in Valdez well
41:58
yes oh well thus all high expectations
42:01
on you to win a senior World Cup after
42:03
your performances as a junior and before
42:07
the mouth saw wind did you ever feel
42:09
like you weren't going to manage it or
42:10
did you always feel like you were on an
42:11
upward curve towards the wind I don't
42:15
know I guess they go the pole booth or
42:17
rolling quite early on in the first
42:20
summer when I loved that track and every
42:22
time they get that star okay that kind
42:24
of get this good feeling that something
42:27
today could go down yeah
42:33
definitely knew that it was on if
42:35
everything went right in followed that
42:38
through to race day just had one of
42:41
those moments where you you're in the
42:42
Stargate you know I think this is this
42:48
is definitely on now and you just saw
42:52
did have just had a general good feeling
42:55
yeah I mean I was gonna ask you did you
42:57
feel like did you feel like it was yours
43:00
for the taking going into the weekend or
43:03
was that feeling that developed after
43:04
you on the track I'm all had the feeling
43:08
that it could be on so I kind of I'm
43:14
very aware that I think anyone in the
43:16
top 15 if they just lay down this huge
43:19
run then my opinion on it is any risk
43:23
it's off take the win that day all the
43:27
boxes ticked so definitely thought it
43:29
could be on I don't think I don't think
43:34
no matter how good sort of seasons local
43:38
or Greg or P for example mo had in the
43:42
past I don't think you can over this or
43:45
say it's yours
43:47
as you just said there's so many guys
43:50
who could take it when they're laid out
43:51
would run oh yeah it would be massively
43:54
arrogant I guess - hey Shoom it was
43:57
yours before you got there
44:00
do you find it does it help you or Hindi
44:03
you if you're aware of people around you
44:05
in the pits and other riders for example
44:07
saying things like it'll happen soon for
44:10
your laws or you know that this kind of
44:12
vibe that everyone was expecting you to
44:13
win eventually
44:14
does that help you build up confidence
44:16
or is it a bit of a negative pressure I
44:18
guess for me it helps me build
44:21
confidence compared to if kind of no one
44:26
said anything so yeah depends if it's
44:31
flat out in your day every day I guess
44:34
it could be a bit much but definitely
44:36
not as bad as I would say never any sort
44:40
of thing so time so no I guess
44:47
good feedback nice so talk us through
44:50
the feeling when you won that race then
44:51
I was in saying literally no putting
44:57
that one into words it is definitely add
45:00
this feeling of one day I could actually
45:05
retire a happy man whenever that maybe
45:08
you just feel like this this got huge
45:11
sense of everything I've been working
45:13
for no matter how fun it's been in my
45:16
head it's always been to reach that
45:19
level and when I woke up one day says
45:22
there's a big weight off my shoulders I
45:25
think is so fair yeah just knowing you
45:28
hadn't wasted a lot of time in the
45:30
German really slaving yourself and
45:33
making all those commitments I mean it's
45:35
hard to imagine when you're not actually
45:37
racing in the sport how much dedication
45:39
and sacrifice go into it growing up
45:43
socially I mean we've got whole
45:46
offseason
45:46
like I said been to New Zealand had
45:50
whole off seasons at home done my fair
45:51
share of but it really does require a
45:58
lot of sacrifice and just really knowing
46:01
that it was all worth it and it and that
46:04
it did feel as good as I hoped it would
46:06
feel what happens I guess until you
46:08
until you actually achieve something
46:11
that you've been working so hard towards
46:13
yeah it's almost a bit of a scare that
46:16
when it does happen it might not quite
46:18
feel like you so hoped it would to say
46:21
no it was kind of really hard to things
46:29
worse all the time it was quite
46:30
emotional for me and my family and they
46:33
just called a can I just ask you Laurie
46:38
we talked a little bit earlier about you
46:40
being on this trajectory was that the
46:43
goal for last season to win a World Cup
46:46
yeah if you spoke to definite my trainer
46:51
or my dad or all myself I'd say it was
46:54
the go hushirat' yeah if I was going to
46:56
keep up with it off what brilliant idea
47:00
it done in the past then in yeah the
47:03
goal is definitely to get one under the
47:04
bell this year nice so you may not
47:07
remember but I was actually following
47:10
you down involve us all finals after
47:12
qualifying seventh yeah go say I love
47:16
the vibe at the top I obviously don't
47:18
get to enjoy it as much as you do
47:19
but if you are coming down late in the
47:22
day there's not many riders up there
47:23
it's not as chaos today nice long time
47:27
gaps yeah I have a like a routine I go
47:31
through to help control my emotions when
47:34
I'm up there for that kind of
47:35
three-and-a-half minute gap between the
47:37
riders I won't get in the gate until
47:39
there's about two minutes to go when I'm
47:42
in there or kind of maybe have a little
47:43
look around you'll I might have a little
47:45
think about the track keep myself calm
47:47
goggles don't go on until is less than a
47:50
minute to go
47:52
that day I remember the rider before you
47:55
leave in a cut remember who it was and I
47:58
remember seeing you roll straight into
47:59
the gate go straight on and you say
48:02
three and a half minutes pedaling
48:05
backwards hands on you bars looking down
48:07
the track head kind of bobbing a bit
48:10
like you look like you're about to go
48:13
into battle and I remember even saying
48:14
to my dad who was with me at the top
48:16
like there's a man on a mission
48:20
my question is was that routine that day
48:25
what you always do or was will you just
48:28
show into it that that was something
48:30
different can you can you remember
48:32
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48:34
yeah yes I sort of could say I born up
48:39
in a similar manner I guess for me
48:41
really looking out into the mountains
48:45
and gained a bib so bringing it all down
48:48
a bit is quite important to me kind of
48:51
really as my hide in the zone and just
48:53
getting good breathing going like you
48:55
heard I fun just from like reaching out
48:59
and looking out over the hills and stuff
49:01
you you take yourself out with this
49:03
really serious nervous little bubble
49:06
that you actually sat in so you kind of
49:09
you're breaking out without a bit and
49:11
getting a bit of
49:13
you'll note from being Ray said that
49:15
Joan in the gun drawn way up on your
49:18
turbo training you might just want to
49:20
wander into worst case scenario what
49:24
would happen if he knows case that won't
49:25
go what would happen if this happened
49:28
what would happen if you know one shot
49:29
that burns and brake failed it's quite
49:34
hard to k2 that so yes really going in
49:38
early and just bringing myself down the
49:40
noxious air yeah it's the one for me and
49:44
and as xxxii was rolling around I
49:47
snapped back into into the moment in
49:50
just really sort of feel quite a lot
49:53
more relaxed and iolair nice cool so was
49:58
that run full fire from the get-go with
50:01
more speed than you'd planned you
50:03
mentioned a couple of minutes ago that
50:05
there's 15 or so riders who if
50:07
everything goes right on the delay they
50:09
could lay down that run was that the
50:12
pre-planned run that you executed or or
50:14
on the day was it was it more than that
50:18
compared to previous point in runs I'm
50:21
hadn't and also good runs of our solar
50:24
photos actually felt
50:28
tamer than any of my runs in the past I
50:32
think because it was kind of looking
50:36
back on the run for me and Rohde exactly
50:37
how I wanted to it was nothing like the
50:39
previous runs I don't know it's a lot
50:41
smoother you're gonna use my legs that
50:45
are on the track like that you've really
50:47
got trying to I know when you know this
50:50
it's so easy to start taking it all on
50:52
your arms and getting real real into it
50:55
but you've just gotta kind of taste that
50:57
back to let your legs do the work these
50:59
muscles in you could he just just
51:04
putting a bit of a different spin on it
51:07
which is compared to other tracks like
51:09
Leogane you've got be so so up and into
51:12
it and ready and you've gotta be ready
51:14
to really spring pump every obstacles
51:17
well it's just not as much of a rough
51:20
track so just being able to kind of sit
51:23
into your legs and look ahead on that
51:25
track and
51:26
this is pretty cheesy yeah they actually
51:28
felt easier than previous runs I've had
51:32
audience for sure there's a weird one
51:34
yeah it's I like your answer because I
51:37
would agree from watching the footage of
51:40
yourself I've watched it it's a hug
51:41
because my runs right after you have
51:43
tuned in and yeah yeah it almost makes
51:48
me angry because Claudio's commentary a
51:52
couple of times he comments on on house
51:55
I don't know if he says sketchy or he
51:57
says something and I completely disagree
51:59
with him my next question was did did
52:03
you feel like you nearly crashed at any
52:04
point but on the bits that are on the
52:06
camera the screens you look completely
52:08
in control
52:09
yeah no it felt like he could rather
52:11
mean visibly you could say I was just
52:16
cruising in places where the people
52:18
peddling so felt like it was actually
52:20
fairly controlled compared to sort of
52:25
the few other ones in the past is er so
52:28
see well cut run see oversee cracking on
52:30
but compared to a lot runs in the past
52:32
it was definitely held back again I know
52:35
that Claudio likes to play devil's
52:38
advocate most weekends so I kind of
52:43
that's war of a duck's back because that
52:45
he does every time he's a bad cop good
52:49
cop bad cop I think no yes
52:55
pretty surprising for me that
52:59
you can win one and be and feel like
53:02
that nicely and control yeah I guess you
53:06
just found that rhythm and once you're
53:08
off cuz you you won by almost three
53:11
seconds and for how tight race and was
53:13
last year that's a big achievement after
53:18
doing that run and the description
53:20
you've just given it how hard do you
53:22
feel it is too now go on and keep
53:25
repeating those those runs that are
53:27
going to be about yes sir
53:29
the next weekend in Linz either honest
53:31
on cloud nine it's just like throwing
53:34
whips and just be gem stroke in turns
53:37
really loving just you know like you say
53:41
on cloud nine really just say victory
53:44
lightning sideways for the me here and
53:46
how many gets home and felt really good
53:48
at the same time it was such a such an
53:52
emotional spike that sort of Monday
53:56
Tuesday Wednesday realizing that you
53:59
sort of want a World Cup it was hard to
54:01
get in the zone for things either
54:03
funnily enough I know a lot of people
54:05
have that thing like I actually had in
54:07
junior they say with a gold roll but but
54:10
that one was such a gnarly achievement
54:14
for me kind of realizing that you ticked
54:19
off such a huge oxide yeah it was hard
54:24
to get into the zone there but once that
54:28
week ended being indoor nothing we went
54:30
to rent a world Trump's them which my
54:36
race running world champs was exactly
54:38
the same I kind of felt
54:40
felt really on it and just had one of
54:44
those things like I said for bone so
54:46
were you just in the zone all the boxes
54:48
taped it's another big rough track
54:50
taking it all in the Backson it really
54:53
was going that I would say before I got
54:57
the puncture and in Monson Annie
55:00
and even after I got the puncture I
55:02
would say some of the best was there I
55:06
think I won I can't remember if it was a
55:09
top three or I won a split but I wanna
55:12
split in Montana with a rear flat which
55:16
was I know looking back on it even
55:21
though I had one flat I was so in the
55:22
zone and it was all clicking even like a
55:24
peep about my solo kind of it was so
55:28
relatable to to how I knew I could
55:31
personally yeah or how I needed to ride
55:34
for it to happen there but she's think
55:36
such as only got to the bottom there was
55:38
that that minnow everything they come
55:41
away and I just tried to say it with a
55:43
full flat and down off the brush is in
55:46
there ended up 7th of thing which was
55:52
for anyone who doesn't know that story
55:54
isn't a great result but for me that was
55:56
like my favorite of my career it's like
56:02
oh yeah just to be that in the zone with
56:05
a flat just somehow keep here or going
56:08
it felt awesome especially yeah
56:12
especially after kind of brokering
56:15
himself up only the day before is there
56:18
or two couple days before was pretty
56:22
hard to go then getting to the zone for
56:25
racing so I was quite proud of myself
56:27
that we came first or not late enough
56:30
face me
56:32
journey into that zoning and continuing
56:34
in that zone even [ __ ] was going really
56:37
badly from from some kind of start to
56:40
finish on that trip so yeah I think
56:43
think wants to know how ya feeling is I
56:47
think I can do it again so my my kind of
56:51
train of thought on Mel
56:54
memory of last season was that you win
56:56
volatile and then I saw an interview
56:58
kind of you could see the spike you've
57:01
called the emotional spy and then I saw
57:04
a thing saying how exhausted you were
57:05
the following week after and you had
57:07
focus and then mistakenly I thought
57:10
you'd gone kind of off the bubble and I
57:12
thought you know he's achieved this
57:14
massive thing this is I'm fearfully he
57:16
how would you talk us like again but
57:19
then when like you said 16 lens I hide
57:22
IRD down as being six that world 12
57:25
things to know Xiu Yin the season
57:27
seventh in the overall fifth and sixth
57:29
and Mark Wallace in eggs do you feel
57:32
like you have a place now at the top
57:33
table of downhill especially after that
57:36
World Cup win yeah I mean certainly
57:40
after the win this offseason was kind of
57:46
I could have probably pushed for a
57:48
little more money on my contract could
57:50
have probably pushed for a bit more
57:53
money in sort of different aspects of
57:56
the whole thing but I decided with my
57:58
team I didn't want to change my contract
58:02
but I wanted to get my mechanic more pay
58:04
and to hire someone that was sort of my
58:06
skills coaches Eli Peters with the
58:09
Oncourse lines buy anything for the rest
58:11
of the team as well but someone I can
58:13
work in we can week out at home decided
58:17
to try and really push
58:19
for the kind of the full bubble rather
58:22
than just my personal package I can run
58:24
away with ya decided to work on the team
58:27
and to try and really step out I try to
58:29
know where did you buy to develop as
58:32
well so I guess there was so much going
58:35
on this year and that it really required
58:37
a completely new kind of approach oh I
58:41
moved out got a flat breast or just
58:45
definitely really soak a fine-tooth comb
58:50
to it and gave me a good crackers I've
58:53
never approached here before what kind
58:55
of but seriously in that that motivated
58:58
and also I think just moving our home
59:04
getting its own bills shown here your
59:07
own actual adult life going is very
59:10
different to sign your parents house
59:12
with it kind of all being a bit of a
59:15
pulse I think just working on a loan
59:18
maturity outside the sport and outside
59:21
of cycling completely and really just
59:24
trying to share scared all my soror
59:27
organizational stuff more bass in there
59:30
yeah get the full package running a bit
59:33
smoother was sort of something that you
59:36
never been even close to done in the
59:40
past and being home a winter and if I
59:42
live on the same road as my trainer
59:44
pretty much see just yeah every gym
59:49
membership I mean I didn't have a gym
59:51
membership this offseason every session
59:53
was with my trainer says there's you
59:57
really can't like you had to be on it so
1:00:00
yes pretty cool being trusted to be able
1:00:05
to develop a body can kind of have the
1:00:09
leverage to make the team better in the
1:00:11
hole it required a lot more people
1:00:14
management for me kind of happy working
1:00:18
kind of more with my mechanicing kind of
1:00:22
skills coach we were at home sore took a
1:00:25
lot of
1:00:28
yeah I guess it's quite hard this veins
1:00:30
just so different it's a lot more mature
1:00:33
realist to make it work that yeah it's a
1:00:37
shame it didn't didn't kind of get to
1:00:40
the point why would you test it to see
1:00:42
if it was it was working cases such as
1:00:45
such a different approach well well we
1:00:47
we've got some questions obviously about
1:00:49
the bike and stuff but there's a good
1:00:51
place to take a quick break we'll be
1:00:53
back with the revolution bike part big
1:00:56
questions after these messages
1:01:04
on to the revolution back part big
1:01:06
questions then to from me to start with
1:01:08
and then to from Jack question number
1:01:10
one what's your favorite track on the
1:01:12
World Cup circuit favorite ride stopping
1:01:18
by the so because they're the memories
1:01:20
and it's just so wrong it's like hardly
1:01:25
my made from start to finish so rough so
1:01:28
it's a pure mountain biking it's a it's
1:01:33
it's in its rawest form an assist it's
1:01:36
one of those ones where people call it
1:01:38
moments track sort of thing so I think
1:01:40
just how Rama is and or is another good
1:01:49
one it's another long track but just
1:01:54
those terms in the bike tracks that was
1:01:59
there have you picked the two steepest
1:02:01
tracks there would you say yeah um do
1:02:06
you think being a kind of short a rider
1:02:09
it helps you on the steep stuff I've had
1:02:15
my opinions on what tracks seesaw
1:02:18
varieties what track see the road is
1:02:20
over the time but I feel like I'm at a
1:02:25
point now I've done weather most of them
1:02:29
like a podium that Leo young before
1:02:33
which is the polar opposite I guess I'm
1:02:38
more suited to the steeple roughest
1:02:40
stuff you have surprised myself along
1:02:43
the way these days with other venues and
1:02:46
services to be honest I'm not really
1:02:49
sure I I'm still to find the perfect
1:02:53
size down the road and what that means
1:02:55
that seems to be that anyone can win any
1:02:58
track it's really really so very cool I
1:03:01
don't really know many of the sports
1:03:02
where you could get me Danny
1:03:07
and pea bullets podium at the same track
1:03:12
it so every different type of Road rule
1:03:14
in one
1:03:16
I don't think it matters just get on
1:03:19
your bike and go for us question number
1:03:23
two which section of track on the World
1:03:25
Cup circuit do you find the most
1:03:27
difficult to race which section of air
1:03:29
track so I thought
1:03:44
sorry gone there's often struggle with
1:03:48
aiming going from a halt and ass off the
1:03:53
back eyo just hanging on so all of a
1:03:57
sudden you over the breaks in the
1:03:59
tighten and all of the sudden you've got
1:04:00
to be this powerhouse at the bonus so
1:04:02
you've really got me kind of adaptable
1:04:06
the whole way down to what what you ride
1:04:08
it you can't just say to the shooter to
1:04:11
be honest the the sex the section
1:04:14
changes in pulling the the hardest for
1:04:17
me just adapting that quickly to the
1:04:19
completely different worries yes very
1:04:22
hard any any will cook track that you
1:04:27
really want to win on obviously also got
1:04:30
me one nice if I dare change thoughts
1:04:34
moments little moments of brilliance and
1:04:37
Paul Berlin before one a time practice
1:04:42
there once and had little snippets are
1:04:45
starting to ramp up insert that I just
1:04:49
thought should be crushed this year well
1:04:51
not this year
1:04:53
he was my first year mum Drakkar on my
1:04:56
second year wondering you there and it
1:04:58
did take me back a bit I've never done
1:05:00
that well that's in something that
1:05:01
crashed rest room thinking just cast a
1:05:04
bit of a gray area richest kids there
1:05:08
just because of that robot was the crash
1:05:11
Lauren yeah is that went Arnie did her
1:05:19
she just in front right yeah yeah I
1:05:23
think I've gotten the head round it now
1:05:25
I've realized that most of the reason
1:05:28
why I'd
1:05:30
so I've gone with it in the past couple
1:05:33
years been due to my own head I think so
1:05:35
yeah we'd love to win there be a big
1:05:40
good sort of person or treatment for me
1:05:43
really struggling the past as well
1:05:45
nope nice so you're not known for your
1:05:48
performances at domestic events I don't
1:05:50
think you disagree with me there why do
1:05:53
you think that is just a UK events you
1:05:57
mean oh yeah for me during the season
1:06:02
I'm quite conscious of just keeping my
1:06:07
mind and body sort of really intact for
1:06:10
woke up so funny quite hard to motivate
1:06:12
myself for trying to point along the
1:06:16
line of my sword winces I don't know
1:06:19
when a British team anything like that
1:06:21
says I drove to the race in my burn I
1:06:24
don't get prize money if I do well they
1:06:26
don't wish isn't a part of it for me
1:06:28
anyway but it's all of these things do
1:06:31
stack up to me sort fare less compared
1:06:38
to risk to benefit kind of Europe yeah
1:06:42
so all the time I've just enjoyed a bit
1:06:45
of downtime and using them as a bit of a
1:06:48
tool to to keep in the game and keep
1:06:51
keep this kind of working towards things
1:06:54
going but but never never really feel
1:06:58
that nervous for a British run really
1:07:03
yeah I'm not so disappointed if I don't
1:07:07
do well or stuff like that but do you
1:07:10
aspire to be British national jumper
1:07:13
yeah I think here you can't be a world
1:07:16
champion be the country's champ along
1:07:19
the way so yeah this is actually a
1:07:21
really I kind of touched on it earlier
1:07:25
side I only
1:07:31
selfishly enough do things Azzam when I
1:07:33
feel like it's the right time so
1:07:36
throughout the past few years I've sold
1:07:40
not had in control on how I've looked at
1:07:43
those racism online has just decided
1:07:45
that that's how we go sort of thing says
1:07:49
one of the things I'm sure starts
1:07:52
getting a bit of a desire to do in the
1:07:53
next couple years I know her definitely
1:07:56
sat down with Olli Morrison put big gold
1:08:00
star it's the national champs this year
1:08:01
everybody was buying on giving it a bit
1:08:03
more of a go so they wrote races are
1:08:06
starting to kind of creep back into the
1:08:09
equation now I found my feet in the lead
1:08:11
many things just taking over like the
1:08:15
day job you notes no know how to race
1:08:17
now I know everyone in my team I know I
1:08:19
know how the big boys operate so just
1:08:23
I've been a bit more tiny to actually
1:08:26
spend on doing other things is there
1:08:27
it's just gonna come naturally nice on
1:08:31
to 2020 then you sign with Red Bull in
1:08:34
the offseason aside from the helmet what
1:08:37
I'd run into does it ring it's
1:08:41
ridiculous I mean all yeah sort of media
1:08:46
you support you get injured or some kind
1:08:50
of something like that is one thing that
1:08:52
those thought brand my teachers have the
1:08:56
craziest dream at night come up with
1:08:58
something insane everyone else would be
1:09:01
like what are you on about and as your
1:09:03
life yeah let's let's do it
1:09:05
say say one of these things where I'd be
1:09:09
quite come up with a kind of a solid
1:09:12
idea of pitch a couple little ones then
1:09:15
I'm kind of getting it going but yeah
1:09:18
just that really needs to come up with
1:09:19
something crazy and maybe how does the
1:09:23
budget and the kind of people that
1:09:25
really want to back is it's amazing
1:09:27
feeling so such a door and you know it's
1:09:30
insane so nice yeah yes
1:09:36
wow that's cool so obviously Racing's
1:09:41
postponed were there any specific goals
1:09:43
you've set for loosen up before we found
1:09:45
out we weren't going anything you want
1:09:47
to share with us that you have
1:09:50
definitely touched on this in the past
1:09:52
with other people as well but once
1:09:56
you've done done it once then you know
1:10:02
you can do it you stopped kind of the
1:10:06
whole peeking and dropping your season I
1:10:09
can't have rounds won't be like bro I
1:10:12
need to get top ten at this one I'd have
1:10:14
round two I'd be like right hit that win
1:10:17
so it's the sort of thing where you you
1:10:21
see some speed control for you as
1:10:23
especially if your energy and stuff like
1:10:25
that and it even goes down so on dross
1:10:28
how you treat you kind of eraser on so
1:10:31
if you're sort of in the past I've
1:10:34
definitely been kind of knowing they
1:10:38
saying sections and I have to take it
1:10:40
slightly easier than others so I can
1:10:42
manage the sprint finish jump after all
1:10:45
so taking easy through the woods for
1:10:48
William so you've got some lungs to
1:10:49
spring the bomb but now I've had those
1:10:53
extra a couple years and now I've had
1:10:54
that extra experience and also had a run
1:10:58
that was 100% from top to bottom and it
1:11:01
got me a wind just for me seems so much
1:11:06
less strain on my brain and to work out
1:11:08
which rounds I shouldn't give it 100%
1:11:12
mr. silly as that sounds but sometimes
1:11:15
especially for your for your overall in
1:11:17
the points you know you should kind of
1:11:20
structure it but just know now that
1:11:24
every race is going to be a hundred
1:11:26
percent every term every Rock every burn
1:11:29
sort of just just makes it quite a lot
1:11:32
easier to work out in your head if
1:11:34
you've got one thing to remember just go
1:11:38
for it I think it's going to be easier
1:11:39
than this big list of sort kind of
1:11:43
things to do so yeah I'm really looking
1:11:46
forward to just being able to give it
1:11:48
100%
1:11:49
all those I just makes it seem so simple
1:11:51
to me just getting the Stargate go as so
1:11:58
as how is you
1:12:04
so we've touched on how much testing
1:12:06
you've done this winters to get the new
1:12:07
bite ready a new frame twenty nine up
1:12:09
from six fifty be at the back in terms
1:12:13
of the bike and the testing and
1:12:15
everything were you ready to go racing
1:12:16
or has this delay giving you a little
1:12:18
bit of an advantage doing
1:12:20
yeah the bike got to a stage where I was
1:12:25
happy to race it on the last day of
1:12:31
offseason riding that I had planned
1:12:33
before going to loser so it was it was
1:12:36
really tight weird problems already with
1:12:40
the virus and the prototype frames we
1:12:42
had punt arriving because that factory's
1:12:46
got shut down before we did hear or see
1:12:48
so we we've kind of been battling with
1:12:50
this virus thing from I guess quite a
1:12:53
lot longer than then a lot of other
1:12:55
people are our side of the pond run also
1:12:57
yeah again the bikes in time was really
1:13:00
stressful and there
1:13:02
yeah a few things just took a while to
1:13:05
get going that it was was pretty cool
1:13:09
being able to work with with all the
1:13:11
boys they were so on it was ridiculous
1:13:14
were so switched on and kind of it
1:13:18
definitely wasn't for lack of trying so
1:13:20
it was it was hard but we managed to get
1:13:23
it dialed on on a CI I planned my whole
1:13:27
off season in October scheduled every
1:13:30
downhill riders gonna have and I was
1:13:34
happy on the very last times the field
1:13:37
season riding on schedule with an hour
1:13:40
of daylight left
1:13:43
yeah for me and one of those people that
1:13:47
if I'm confident feeling that cockiness
1:13:50
on the bike almost it's a funny word to
1:13:52
use this or how just up how much in part
1:13:57
of you heading to the new forum Laura
1:13:59
and what other kind of men benefits you
1:14:01
were trying to achieve with it because
1:14:02
the the previous version was pretty was
1:14:05
ahead of its time with the geometry yes
1:14:09
so I guess the main thing we decided and
1:14:13
moderated decided was there they wanted
1:14:16
it to be a little a little more
1:14:19
progressive in the bottom out and a
1:14:21
little more subtle and easy going off
1:14:24
the top so just getting that small bump
1:14:26
sensitivity really really kind of fluid
1:14:29
and progressive enough to say the big
1:14:32
hits and that was most of the they kind
1:14:37
of strategy behind it was it's a similar
1:14:40
looking bike it's similar looking lynxes
1:14:43
it's all quite similar but it's just
1:14:47
what this nude sort of thing going on it
1:14:50
looks badass when it's cool bit kick but
1:14:53
yeah just it's a slightly bit bigger
1:14:56
they wanted to go a little bit bigger on
1:14:58
the both sizes but yeah the kinematics
1:15:01
are slightly different and
1:15:04
yeah it's pretty cool feeling that sort
1:15:08
of first taps out run you doing about
1:15:11
leave kind of help develop from
1:15:13
scratches so no worrying at times that
1:15:15
you might not get to where you think the
1:15:18
boat should be raised or no matter that
1:15:20
go to production so it's weird it's not
1:15:23
all about you anymore you're definitely
1:15:24
worrying a little bit about what
1:15:27
feedback comes out you only mouth
1:15:29
because that bike will be on the shop
1:15:31
floor some day and we all thought if it
1:15:33
doesn't sell it'll say yes it was a it's
1:15:40
just difficult to get right things
1:15:43
project where were you testing on that
1:15:46
last day you know when you said you were
1:15:47
happy where was that in looser oh yeah I
1:15:49
was in testing I was like there you
1:15:53
light right with her yeah pretty much
1:15:56
you mentioned Fox you that you're on the
1:15:59
new 14 hands how are you getting on with
1:16:00
us
1:16:01
yeah good man I think that was that was
1:16:03
one of the real helps and getting this
1:16:07
new Biturbo know would scale some new
1:16:09
equipment which was probably slightly
1:16:10
more seeing it with her with what we
1:16:14
want Eden yeah the guys at fault pretty
1:16:16
much just only in in a matter of days
1:16:19
that was taking us weeks to do so it's
1:16:21
like yeah they after kind of mean like
1:16:29
in going down such a road in the
1:16:31
offseason having them kind of cast a bit
1:16:34
more knowledge on the new Fox stuffs got
1:16:37
sure offsets and that sort of stuff so
1:16:39
having them kind of custom knowledge on
1:16:42
what parts of the bike doing that can be
1:16:45
effective over than the actual
1:16:47
offset so having them help with balance
1:16:50
now allow and gain getting those last
1:16:53
few final touches was real cool is
1:16:55
they're crazy what those guys can do so
1:16:58
many ideas when the frame will be
1:16:59
available to the public the Nouman
1:17:01
director well they wanted to get out
1:17:04
before the end of this year I think they
1:17:06
at least wanted to have a boat that
1:17:08
could go to production but given all
1:17:11
this going on right now it's going to be
1:17:12
really hard of the next
1:17:16
development of one of the probe mics
1:17:18
hasn't arrived yet you to teach the
1:17:21
whole thing so I think but it's a hard
1:17:25
one
1:17:25
it's like the question of when are we
1:17:27
gonna go we're all I'm worried about now
1:17:33
is just sort of making sure I'm doing
1:17:39
the right things at home and I'm happy
1:17:40
with that bike I know it can race on
1:17:42
that so no yeah no yes whatever Oh
1:17:46
everyone's been working so hard to get
1:17:48
to the point that we're at and now that
1:17:50
we I mean to be forced to take a break I
1:17:52
think everyone's just grabbing a brush
1:17:54
forever fresh air yeah so I'm assuming
1:18:00
we do go racing this year what goals can
1:18:03
you share with us what's right I guess
1:18:15
outside of just simply race runs an
1:18:17
inducible media stuff really okay say
1:18:21
words a lot more kind of homo for making
1:18:24
that more professional and everything
1:18:26
way to organize so just starts to become
1:18:30
a bit more kind of on my game at home
1:18:34
really
1:18:35
Stein's here and against at home
1:18:38
professionalism thank you sir be good
1:18:41
nice just set every weekend and work on
1:18:44
my media and so rather than making a
1:18:48
goal that you're not in control of which
1:18:51
would be for example win the overall
1:18:53
because obviously there's other things
1:18:54
that you can't control what anyone else
1:18:57
does your goals more just something
1:18:59
you're in control of ride yeah then
1:19:02
every restroom
1:19:03
yeah I think so
1:19:07
if you're riding a hundred percent every
1:19:08
run you wanna win everyone say sir
1:19:11
yep give me this I guess it's the
1:19:13
different way of say you know yeah
1:19:19
there's no beating around the bush I
1:19:21
just want to I want to drop out the
1:19:23
Stargate go into the win every every
1:19:25
every weekend I feel like what I've done
1:19:29
over the offseason is the best I could
1:19:32
have done to try to achieve nice yeah
1:19:34
nice any venues that you don't like the
1:19:37
look of that are on the calendar
1:19:38
obviously we've lost courier and we've
1:19:41
lost for William but the rest ya know
1:19:44
the rest of them um I'm quite a big fan
1:19:47
of that yeah I'm really like the last
1:19:50
four races they kinda stack up real good
1:19:52
after the break you know you've got sort
1:19:55
of four really good track saying
1:19:57
erroneously now to be honest um I was
1:20:03
pretty stoked at how he's looking the
1:20:05
whole way through it but I think you've
1:20:06
got a lot of diversity
1:20:07
I wouldn't like every track to be like
1:20:10
motor solo like every track to be like
1:20:12
there's a say opening bit diversity
1:20:16
means the best man that's gonna win yeah
1:20:19
absolutely stayed for it it looks to us
1:20:22
like MS Monde recovers as a kind of
1:20:24
grace help at the World Cups how
1:20:25
important do you think that is yeah I
1:20:30
mean the race is deadly pretty pretty
1:20:34
essential I think some some teams go
1:20:37
beyond my teams got a pretty fancy
1:20:39
service car as a massive canopy and two
1:20:42
pots off to the side I've seen any to
1:20:44
murder yeah yeah yeah it is amazing
1:20:47
these records have with pre I think it
1:20:49
all comes to play when when the
1:20:52
weather's bad I think as long as you've
1:20:53
got a good enough setup that when the
1:20:57
weather gets really bad you can handle
1:20:58
it then then it's fine but notice it's
1:21:03
always cool being in a dome its place
1:21:05
but it's definitely not essential you
1:21:07
know you see you see how the syndicate
1:21:11
set of course when Josh was winning as
1:21:13
an athlete you know that they were doing
1:21:16
well I guess I think that they do know
1:21:19
how easy up Stella remember
1:21:22
so normal there's nothing crazy says you
1:21:26
kind of know you can do it smooth us out
1:21:28
but yeah it's cool kind of having that
1:21:32
cool space when my friends and family
1:21:34
come it's amazing to soar space where
1:21:37
everyone can get involved in there yes
1:21:41
it's pretty cool it's amazing making it
1:21:44
cool
1:21:44
well hopefully we'll all be back at the
1:21:46
rest is soon thanks ever so much for
1:21:48
taking the time to come on the show
1:21:50
tonight Laurie he's been fabulous
1:21:52
chatting to you and best a lot for 2020
1:21:54
and beyond
1:21:54
why 8023 now yeah 23 it's still
1:21:59
improving every year I think it's pretty
1:22:01
safe and so the future is looking pretty
1:22:03
bright for you yeah yeah I've got you
1:22:07
back for the win this year May so God
1:22:15
yeah we'll see ya
1:22:18
hopefully we get a few and at the end
1:22:20
yeah yeah cards gonna be hard to be
1:22:24
ready when it comes birthing care same
1:22:27
febrile State Fair cheese boys
1:22:29
well where's the best place for people
1:22:30
to keep track of your progress is it
1:22:31
Instagram yeah I guess Instagram of the
1:22:34
few weeks of fun planned kind of a bit
1:22:37
more structure to it because it's the
1:22:40
only thing that I can do to to maintain
1:22:42
my sort of presidents on this okay yeah
1:22:46
I guess we're gonna have to start doing
1:22:47
that's how me cuz I like I said at the
1:22:50
start like that the roadie deep voice
1:22:53
that song keen in there and live live a
1:22:56
life outside of rhodium when you're when
1:22:58
you're off the bike as well you know
1:23:00
I've definitely not been so many trucks
1:23:03
out millions of bits on social media but
1:23:05
I do really enjoy it mostly because I
1:23:08
don't have time to say yeah definitely
1:23:12
got a bit talking with my hands in the
1:23:13
state to do summer project to Red Bull
1:23:16
and several others as the yellow zone go
1:23:19
I think it's at Laurie Greenland
1:23:21
underscore yeah uh help Jack Giada
1:23:24
trying to mention you know same as what
1:23:28
I've said the last couple of podcasts
1:23:30
got me around there which is Geralyn was
1:23:33
going to be
1:23:34
then I've got the mountain-bike live
1:23:36
series on YouTube just chat read in I
1:23:38
think I'm gonna put out like like Laurie
1:23:41
said we've got to do something at the
1:23:42
moment so I'm gonna put out like
1:23:44
training at home kind of day in the life
1:23:47
video potentially next week yeah yeah
1:23:49
kind of falling through what I do want
1:23:51
to on a training day so I put that out
1:23:54
maybe next week yeah where it's hard for
1:23:59
me so I'm finding myself somewhere it's
1:24:17
13 cities we're at making up the numbers
1:24:23
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