Making Up The Numbers Podcast | Vali Höll & Thibaut Dapréla

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to episode six of season two of the
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making up the numbers podcast I'm George
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Thompson and asking the questions with
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me once again tonight is sr some tour
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one visions jot reading
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how we doing Jack I think I saw
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yesterday that there may be some light
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at the end of the tunnel when it comes
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to well cut racing have you heard
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anything yeah I mean there's chatter on
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the grapevine that we we should best
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expect a season from early September
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maybe August onwards so yeah I'm just
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working with my coach to kind of be as
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ready as possible for August and
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crossing our fingers for that what I
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think everything so cool well yeah just
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plate right here really isn't it there's
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nothing else you can do so once again
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we're recording this episode of I assume
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and the video will be available on the
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singletrack youtube channel and what i
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sure we have for you tonight our special
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guests have been the dominant junior
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riders in World Cup downhill racing over
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the past couple of seasons Valley Hall
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is the two-time junior women's world
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champion and the two-time Junior Women's
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World Cup overall winner and in 2018 she
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completed the perfect season when in
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every round of the World Cup and World
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Championships in lanza HUD tebow de
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varela is the two-time Junior Men's
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World Cup overall winner in 2018 as a
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first year junior he was top three at
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every round of the World Cup when he
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five of those rounds he also won a
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further five rounds in 2019 and amassed
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over double the number of points of Kaia
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her in second place welcome to the show
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guys
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[Laughter]
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two best prospects in downhill thank you
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vali let's start with you
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because your wrist stats are just
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absolutely mind-blowing I went on routes
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and rain which is what we use kind of
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for the research for this show
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56 races 45 wins never finished outside
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the top three and you've only been third
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once you've never had a flat or a
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mechanical never crashed in a restaurant
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I did actually crashed in the Ogami in
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2018 and there's still one that was said
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quite lucky and last year in men's I had
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a flat tire when I crossed the finish
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line well I didn't recognize it when it
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was riding sir lucky I believe you kind
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of started racing against boys and you
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won those races as well were those
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prompt one of the early those in the 56
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that I've been talking about or was that
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prior to kind of the ixs stuff I think
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it was like the axis rookies Cup I think
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it's it's also included and it's
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actually a quite funny story because he
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was my first eh race and there I was
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going there with my dad and he said like
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yeah you have to race against the boys
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and definitely you're not gonna win he
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knew that was quite competitive from ski
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racing and at the end of the day I'd be
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down the voice so yeah what we you're
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obviously like a winner what are you
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like when you lose
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are you a pleasure to be around mmm I
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don't know I mean I'm not that pissed at
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the moment it's small I'd wanna think
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about it like three hours later I'm like
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damn it I don't know it just gives me a
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really big push to be even better the
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next race and then I'm like yeah I'm
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gonna beat them by a big margin and
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that's my goal and is that downhill oh
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is that losing at anything so say I
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don't know Christmastime you family are
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playing cards or whatever do you have to
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win at that as well are you is it just
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downhill Bert
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well I think my bed is even more
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competitive when it comes to family
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games yeah maybe so Tibo we right in
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thinking that you started racing
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downhill in 2006
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steam as a youth not really
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I always riding mountain biking down
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here even when I was younger I was just
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doing BMX races so as you can ride can
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try the proper races in downhill before
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14 in France so I decided to do only BMX
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races as you can do watch championships
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right your pen caps and even French
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scripts
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so until 15 yeah 15 years old it said to
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do only be a mix and then move to to
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darling that was what I loved the most
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and was my main goal okay engineer for
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the World Cups yeah we good at the BMX
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racing yeah for for 3 years I was a the
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best in Europe like almost like an
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offense in the 8th of the world well
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approximately and in France I was a lot
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of French caps and was yeah yeah firstly
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you had a solid background in racing
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before you move to the downhill race
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yeah I think I've done more babies faces
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than darling for sure ok yeah how old
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you when you started racing the BMX
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my first way was when I was 7 years old
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Wow
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and then yeah after I just tried to do
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cross-country then like we have some of
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like a French races when you're where
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you have Daniel cross country krill and
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like yeah those four disciplines in the
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same bait and I don't know if you have
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that in England but no I guess the
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closest thing we've got so that is what
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paying organisers what's it called The
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Melvins yeah yeah that's it so yeah
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we've got one events a little bit bit
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like that oh cool so I am I'll look
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through your Instagram today and found
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some photos of you riding a lap here in
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2017 the the one player on at the races
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we the fastest to use rider in France in
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2017 we win in the youth races on that
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lap yeah yeah I think mm I will up here
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in 2016 and 17 yeah
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think only one races because I I tried
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to push a bit too much because I would
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like to be on the podium with with dial
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it on French cap and I crash massive
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crash yeah I think it's the only loss so
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did the comments our fleet manager
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Parekh did he kind of talents for you is
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that how you got the ride with comment
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sir no before I was think max call me or
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I did I think it was more the reference
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brother but yeah like we were they were
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all one year before they were like oh
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yeah we were talking a bit not for
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contract and nothing just we were a bit
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friend and red in the summer southern 17
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I decide to try the the bike yeah and
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the bike was working super good so I
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decided to go with them and even because
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the team was already super good and yeah
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it was a big the best choice in for the
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moment in my life I think
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nice yeah I was going to ask you did you
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instantly love the bike what what are
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your favorite things about the way the
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supreme rides know all the year long
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everybody was trained at 20 1929 their
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wills yeah and on the logic I
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I could have put them but it was a
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strange moment to do that because I was
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really young and if I do like when you
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are young you're not is supposed to have
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29 ballet you know yeah so it said to
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stay with 27 and it was the first time I
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tried 29 and I loved it yeah he was so
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fast and the bike was really dynamic
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compared to the luck here and
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was what I really like on the bike
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because it was a more similar than the
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Ebonics by yeah so that was the main
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point for my nice so you've had some
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great success as a junior rider be in
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lots of elite with your Reyes times I
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remember coming to congratulate you in
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loser at the start of 2019 when you'd
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had an absolute storm of a restaurant
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and you conferred in the elite category
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won the Junior category of all the
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elites been as friendly when you've been
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doing so well as ever everybody being
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cool or are you sensing a little bit of
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rivalry of anticipation have you got
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moving into Italy no not really
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everybody's really yeah yeah yeah yeah
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that's kind of our school isn't it
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everybody's just kind of like yeah
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nothing nice with me awesome well I'm
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sure a lot of people are really excited
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to watch your first World Cup season
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that's for sure yeah I was too but I was
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not supposed to ride the first few
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rounds so with my knee but now I think I
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would be for anybody Holly let's start
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with the World Cups for you 2018 year at
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the first year junior the perfect season
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you won all seven rounds of the World
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Cup and World Championships at what
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point did the pressure of the perfect
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season start when do people kind of
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start talking about it I was actually
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quite unexpected it wasn't really
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planned cuz I just came into the World
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Cup and what's main characters gonna try
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it and then somehow I won the first race
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and the second one and the Frog won
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it just rolled that way and I was like
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wow it's actually quite easier and then
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yeah when I crashed the first time in
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the ogon the first year I was like well
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okay it's really hard to be like always
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consistent and always have a race run
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with without any crashes
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and then I don't know even with the
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crash I won but I knew that you really
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have to concentrate on what you're doing
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and it's not that easy life like a
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thought and I think it was like the race
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after after Monson egg because it was
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the breast and I never was and the
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breast was like the race why I thought
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well if I could win it there would be
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like the first like first you need a
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junior year and the first perfect season
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and yeah that was super fun and the
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conditions were terrible in the breasts
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weren't they was one of those races that
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you could have quite easily lost
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I was super wet now you drained so hard
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it was super cold and you couldn't see
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like from the stockade it was like all
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fall and you couldn't see anything yeah
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what was it standout performance in 2018
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which which one of those wins did you
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ride the best which one were you the
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most you know happy with it's hard to
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say I think like Winnie leo going with a
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crash yeah listen I'm expecting for me
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for sure because I fought like cool I
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have a home race but I totally [ __ ] up
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my run but Indiana still won so I was
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really happy about that one what did you
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do after you crash did you panic and go
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like hell to the finish thinking you
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could still do it or did you just kind
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of get back on and just ride down
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thinking you throw that away you know I
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was like super hectic it was like the
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last turn before you enter the motorway
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section so like I lost all the speed and
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I was like sprinting and I can't
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remember to run from from that crash on
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and there there's a guy from Austria
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he's like always checking all the splits
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and he said the last lid I was faster
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than Rachel earthen Wow on the chase yes
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I can't remember maybe I have to do that
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more often moving on to the World
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Championships then that season did you
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feel a lot of pressure going into lenser
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high
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I was really exciting because it was my
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first time like going with the national
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team like we don't really have a
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national team but first time like racing
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for your country
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you have you have to chose a I got a
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special bike the first time that I was
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super sick and it's just a different
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wipe like everyone's more focused but at
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the same time I don't know really happy
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about everything because it's different
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people stay with different people to
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stay with the national team and some
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people stay with the teams are a little
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bit different but I for sure like the
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atmospheres is amazing here so you won
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seeding by 11 seconds in London eyes how
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did that affect your mental preparation
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for your race room mmm
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actually won like all races before so I
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wasn't really confident and I knew that
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I could do it but at that point like I
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said all like seeding rounds and raised
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when I did they were perfectly when is
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the time I'm gonna crash like really
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crashed or get a flat tire or Jane snaps
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or I was just waiting for something bad
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to happen but it didn't so you're a
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little nervous going into the room
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thinking yeah it was like the first time
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you have like a different kind of heart
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beating you know that like it's like
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really from your stomach and it's like
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beating so hard like oh my god what's
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going on yeah they totally different
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kind of nerves there did you find that
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went away as soon as you left the start
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next I always find if I ever feel like
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that as soon as I've put the first pedal
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stroke in it goes away did you did that
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happen or did it follow you down the
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track I think it's always when the guy
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in the start had the French guy always
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says like in minutes then it's like go
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time it's good so you you went on to win
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the race and buy another big Marg in 11
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seconds when we talked to Tony last
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weekend about winning her first World
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Cup and she said the overriding feeling
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was relief given the pressure and the
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way you were feeling how did you feel
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when you won the rest
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I was awesome like all my family was
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down there and I had a perfect season
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but at the same time I was like thinking
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god I have to do that next year again
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yes you can't do better you can only do
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worse
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sounds like wow I go what did I do not
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actually like everything was fine and I
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still have motivation to train even
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though I didn't get beat or something
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yeah
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maybe a tough question have you spent
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any of the last two seasons riding
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within yourself in your restaurant
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because you you have kind of known that
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you're very capable of winning the race
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have you been riding under your limit
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yeah for sure
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and that was the time like I got beaten
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because I knew like I won I won the
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seating and I knew like I don't have to
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give my very I mean it may sound a
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little bit hidden from me saying that
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but I knew like I don't have to give
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like 100% to win my category and then
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like my mindset was totally totally off
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like I wasn't taking practice seriously
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I didn't do like a lot of runs I didn't
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do time practice and stuff like that
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which was like super stupid but I think
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it's good to have two new years to to do
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that kind of [ __ ] yeah and then you
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you go to the race and then you get like
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the hit in your face and you see what do
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you have done wrong so yeah Millard beat
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me in rally so by only like one second
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but it was just because I didn't take it
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serious yeah yeah okay well as you just
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said important lesson learned and that's
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that's what those junior years are for
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think about 2018 you joined common cell
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you joined it at the same time as a
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Maori did everyone in France know that a
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Maori was going to be a special rider I
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don't really know but I think everybody
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will know that Murray was really really
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fast and because when you seem on on the
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track he was always really fast on some
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sections but
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sometime you had so many mechanicals or
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I don't know problems yeah and when he
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moved to the comments on linoleum I
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think the the Bible fits in perfectly
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and yeah fishing was there and just go
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faster on all the tracks so the reason
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the reason I asked that is prior to the
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kind of 2018 season I was a revolution
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bike park and here in the UK and I was
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talking to Joe Braden and he predicted
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that a Maori would win the World Cup
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overall in 2018 and the reason I kind of
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always stuck with me is I remember
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calling someone on the way at home and
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them saying to me who's a Maori peer on
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and I came second in Valdez so I think
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last year and it was kind of now when
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you look back it's like oh it's a
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married parent but at the time he wasn't
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that well-known to everyone so I just
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didn't know if in you guys he was like
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in to the French riders you were all
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just like oh yeah he's just gonna be
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great in a few years time I think it was
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one of them as well like when you're
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around it I think it was 2015 Lourdes is
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that right when did he podium was it
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2015 or 2016
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no was 1660 and he was riding so well
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and then he broke both arms in Cairns
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and then he came back at the end of the
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season and podiums in Endora think of
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all the song when you around it when
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you're at the races you see all that and
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that talent and you know it's there
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whereas if you just watching Red Bull
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and you just get him what's pushed into
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into your face off the screen you'll
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miss those things of who's showing real
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potential including come about and
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that's why breed and wolf will have seen
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that going so 2018 you're a first year
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junior as well and as we said on the
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intro you've finished top three and
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every round winning in the shin belly
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solve our Lord monsoon and LA breasts
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was it a surprise to you just how
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dominant you were
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yeah it was because my main goal was to
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be consistent and to try to win won
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races or more if it was possible you
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know after a lodging when I won the race
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I saw that there was maybe capable of
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winning multiple races so just continue
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to try my best to to win more races and
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which was with your standout performance
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that season no was good yeah which was
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your favorite one your favorite well I
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think it was lodging because I loved
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that track because it's kind of an on
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track with lot of rocks and like like
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French French track you know yeah yeah
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yeah I think it's this one and yeah and
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maybe even no because I love destructive
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yeah at what point in the season had you
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won the overall Oh into some 18-year
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high a was here at masa ten maybe I had
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to do a podium and and just won the
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overall so yeah I was so happy so will
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will championships in Lenser hide you
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seeded fourth in you were ten seconds
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back on Kade
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he finished fourth six seconds back on
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Kidd looking at those stats alone and it
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gives the impression that you you know
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you'd be begging Caden during the season
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that you weren't quite there that
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weekend was that was that the case I
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think this weekend I was maybe too
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confident yeah and I was body says
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before I was not really focused in
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practice was not taking the risk to to
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try to go faster some sections and yeah
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was not I was not wish I was not with my
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team I was with the French team just
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going with the team during the day and
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that was I wasn't letting my confidence
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oh yeah just so many little things that
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may not a good weekend so it was a
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really bad weekend for me did you feel a
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lot of pressure after winning the
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overall
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no no I think I like the pressure that
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words make me going faster and I think
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that make me sad I do watching catch it
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I was like no almost no pressure
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yeah the opposite yeah yeah yeah I need
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the pressure nice so Valley moving on to
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2019 you won round one in Maribor by 10
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seconds which is a huge margin really
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when we remember that for the elite men
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the top 50 were within 10 seconds of
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like so the question is what was the
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biggest surprise winning Maribor by 10
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seconds or they're not winning in 4
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willing
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oh I crashed in for William so uh I
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don't know I was actually quite happy
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that the kind of winning streak even
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though he was just in Julius was like
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over funny because I it was good somehow
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I mean I was stupid pinch that at the
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end that I crashed under the mistaken
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only like no yeah I was only three
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seconds back you didn't know it crashed
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I did because uh it was before there the
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rope gap and then after the rogue ever
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like slid out before the water yeah yeah
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so it was like super messy because that
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like zero speed and you have to pedal
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all the way out but yeah I mean I'd like
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two big mistakes in one race run so
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maybe like I did all the mistakes from
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last year yeah it was happy they was
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finally over that's something like that
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goes on longer and longer yeah the
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pressures gonna mount and people are
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watching and once it's over you can just
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carry on yeah and I was super happy for
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Anna that she could also win because I
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could feel that last year was hard or
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like you could see that they also wanted
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to win but it like never happens so I
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was super happy for them that they both
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could get a podium yeah she had a joy in
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Fort William you've raised three times
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and only won once so that is the track
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that you've got the worst record on do
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you feel there's a reason for that
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is there something you don't like about
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for William or something you find hard
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or has it just been one of those things
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not just think of the track is so
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physical and like you know slow we don't
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have that long tracks it's like super
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steep so you don't race for that long
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and for William is like super flat it's
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like nearly four for the girls it's like
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five minutes so I guess even for juniors
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and girls is super hard for for the arms
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you could arm pump and you look kinda
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lose the focus and then you make
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mistakes pretty pretty easy yeah
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I mean I love the trickster yeah is it
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good one but it is very hard and yeah
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whenever we raise the national some of
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the some of the riders they have to take
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maybe six to seven minutes to get down I
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wouldn't want to ride that track for
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seven minutes
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that's me must be pretty tiring there
25:46
George yes yeah I would love to I would
25:50
love to see you guys try ride for seven
25:51
minutes I think I've got a six or six
25:59
six forty something something like that
26:02
I think that's my best run down there by
26:03
I find of all the tracks we race in the
26:06
UK and I've raced on Dora and fell this
26:10
soil as well Fort William is my least
26:13
favorite track I've never never enjoyed
26:16
racing it I just don't find it an
26:19
enjoyable track to ride I think yeah
26:23
it's like a you know you guys are
26:25
professional I'm not a professional
26:27
rider I'm an amateur rider well I find
26:31
that it's hard by the time you get to
26:34
the deer gear I don't have the strength
26:36
and the fitness that you guys do and by
26:37
the time you get to the deer get that is
26:39
like a run anywhere else in the UK
26:42
pretty much you know that that that half
26:44
of track and then it's not as bad now
26:47
but a few years ago the day after that
26:50
before they put the new section and that
26:52
was really really hard it was really
26:54
hard on the body and then you come into
26:57
the jumps at the bottom which I'm okay
27:00
with them now I'll do them now but years
27:02
ago when you're not that level rider and
27:05
you're dreading hitting those jumps and
27:07
they're at the bottom and you can barely
27:08
feel you know your arms ease you got arm
27:11
pump or whatever anything I'm gonna have
27:12
to try and hit a 30-foot gap here I I
27:16
can't feel my wrists you know I can't
27:18
feel am I gonna be able to hold on so as
27:20
a kind of amateur ID
27:22
it's just I'm always glad when I'm
27:24
coming home from there really
27:25
restful weekend and it is one of those
27:27
tracks where if you're not just flowing
27:30
and carrying speed yes in every rock in
27:34
the wrong place and it's just beat in
27:36
your arms open when you get into that
27:38
Speedway you know it's right
27:39
it just gets so much easier yeah so yeah
27:42
I can relate to that George
27:44
so Valley you bounce back from Fort
27:46
William and you woman Lea gang by
27:48
nineteen seconds which must have felt
27:51
great after crash in the year before was
27:53
that your favorite performance of 2019
27:56
it was in France of course why's that
28:02
cause I I was the fastest lady on the
28:06
other day so that was pretty sick and it
28:09
was actually quite an expecting because
28:11
it was not another race run like were
28:14
you like wad that was sicker there was
28:16
something impressive I don't know it was
28:20
just a normal race run and I didn't
28:21
really check the time I didn't know that
28:23
that one was even faster than any
28:25
qualifying from marine I think Tracy and
28:29
then later today I just watched the life
28:33
on a TV in the truck it's run and then I
28:37
just saw the Tracy was slower and I was
28:39
like what that's weird like what's
28:42
happening and then Marino and I was like
28:50
I must do something wrong like there
28:54
must be something on the track and stuff
28:55
but I don't know I just there and tried
28:58
the track really we we fastest as well
29:01
in lenser hide yeah I was - yeah so you
29:06
twice last season you were the fastest
29:10
female racer
29:12
you must kind of leave with an extra
29:15
buzz when you when you've been when
29:18
you've done that
29:19
I don't know cuz uh but you can't really
29:23
compare it like hundred percent cos
29:25
there are always people who say ah dat
29:27
trick was different or it was more
29:29
slippery or it was more bumpy oh and
29:32
stuff I can't remember lens I did rain
29:37
and then it didn't rain and rain it was
29:39
just a nightmare LaHaye was fair and
29:42
square like it was legitimate when I'd
29:49
say has a junior woman ever won an elite
29:54
time George do we know it was it was on
29:59
call so she has but it's been a long
30:02
time and since it's been done so okay
30:07
you want again invalid but you were
30:11
second to million Valdez sold by a very
30:14
small margin did anything kind of go
30:17
specifically wrong in volley saw yeah
30:20
there was like the day where I didn't
30:22
take stuff seriously like the whole
30:24
weekend though I was not taking it
30:26
seriously I wasn't really concentrating
30:29
on the track I was like not in a good
30:32
mood I don't know they were like so many
30:33
know things that made the weekend really
30:36
really bad for me right and yeah I mean
30:40
you learn from that things and I'm happy
30:42
that it happened so I know that I have
30:44
to approach the weekend differently and
30:47
always try to have a good mind sent even
30:49
though like Riley saw in the rain is not
30:52
fun
30:53
no sir and it's super scary but I still
30:55
have have to find a way to be a happy
30:58
person
30:59
yeah all right I heard just used the
31:02
word scared of all the soil in the rain
31:05
and it's not often you hear top level
31:08
racers admitting to that emotion what do
31:16
you think team are you scared of it oh
31:18
yeah I was so scared and I did really
31:22
bad the race to Melissa Lee yeah I've
31:27
learned a very important lesson the year
31:29
before you you two may remember but it
31:32
it rained halfway through men's Qualys
31:34
in 2018 and I tried to play it safe I
31:38
didn't crash but I was in some spots so
31:42
painfully slow just to stay on my mind
31:44
and I think I was 67th in quali also
31:49
then last year it did exactly the same
31:52
thing so I had I didn't have full spikes
31:55
with me but I had some cuts that still
31:57
had the side nobles arm and I had the
31:59
right tires on and I'd learn from the
32:01
year before and I qualified 7th and it
32:04
goes back to what Valley said before
32:06
like something that can be so [ __ ] at
32:09
the time you can learn from it and whine
32:12
the clock forwards and just get so much
32:15
from it so yeah I'm stalling the where
32:17
is yeah it's lethal so I knew you didn't
32:24
really like comparing your your times to
32:26
the elites valley but let's talk about
32:29
Crankworx because there you did actually
32:33
real it race in the elite category and
32:35
it was you know we can compare those
32:37
times legitimately the air downhill
32:39
you're a third behind you'll Kitner in
32:41
georgia a still three seconds off the
32:43
wind but more interestingly the Canadian
32:45
Open you're a second not point six back
32:48
on Tracy with Miriam a further not point
32:50
six back in third
32:52
um how did it feel to be kind of
32:55
competing in this on in being in the
32:58
start yet with them with those ladies
33:00
I was super cool first of all it was the
33:03
first time I was like in life to me yeah
33:05
I think that was like a big bonus for me
33:07
and after getting third at the air air
33:11
the agent Whistler I was actually the
33:14
only one who was riding a gauge by so
33:16
maybe for next year I don't know but uh
33:20
yeah it was super cool like going up the
33:23
chairlift and you see like all you hear
33:25
is warming up pom-pom and Tracy and it
33:29
was unreal like it was like super cool
33:32
atmosphere and there and you dropped in
33:34
and you sit in the hot seat and the best
33:36
races in the world like right down the
33:38
hill and you're just waiting and see the
33:40
time go faster it was unreal
33:44
but by the time we'll chumps can't came
33:47
around and you I think you'd run the
33:49
overall given that you run the overall
33:52
twice and already be junior world
33:54
champion was that an easier rest than
33:56
the previous season mmm I think the
34:00
track is like a little bit harder than
34:03
than to hide you know super long and
34:06
actually like that we can add so many
34:08
big crashes literally I think a lot of
34:10
people crash that weekend and like beat
34:12
themselves up right so like and even
34:16
like you have one extra day of training
34:18
so there's like worries to crash again I
34:21
was like super sore on Sunday but I was
34:25
like enjoying it and I won the
34:28
qualifying with a big margin even though
34:31
I crashed so I knew like I have a big
34:33
gap and this time I was playing like
34:35
safe I wasn't giving hundred percent but
34:38
I knew like I'm I have to be focused
34:40
I'll make the same mistake that in Bali
34:42
so and just play it safe and I know I
34:45
could win again and I was super stoked
34:47
about the performance and like the
34:49
consistency that's so Tebow you hit 2019
34:57
like a wrecking ball within the first
35:00
three rounds we then went to round 4
35:03
invar mode which is obviously common
35:06
cells home territory I imagine you were
35:09
putting a lot of pressure on yourself to
35:10
not only win but win big and women with
35:14
some style yeah my main goal at the
35:19
beginning of the single season was just
35:21
to be consistent and yet try to do a
35:23
perfect season with wing all the races
35:26
but I just I won the first three rounds
35:30
and then I go to well no I was super
35:34
good on the bike and I just say okay
35:36
forget that and just try to go fast as I
35:39
want you know just riding as I can me
35:43
not being under what I could can do and
35:47
yeah the first two speed I think it was
35:50
fast it'd be too much maybe yeah
35:53
nice ni you wouldn't save him by 13
35:57
seconds than you
35:58
and then you were 10 seconds up more at
36:03
the split before you crashed in the race
36:04
room after winning seed him by such a
36:08
big margin what was the thinking behind
36:10
your restaurant were you trying to get a
36:12
time to rival the elites or were you
36:15
just going for it
36:16
no I was really focused I really I was
36:21
really checking the lines doing
36:23
everything I can to do the best ahead as
36:25
I can but not fully to compare with the
36:29
with the edits but was just to try to do
36:33
the fastest run I can even if it was the
36:36
only time I can do it in the year
36:38
because the the next races I had to to
36:42
win again to try to win the overall but
36:44
yeah after the jam part I just crashed
36:49
because I forgot to take the break and
36:52
yet just massive crash I think it could
36:56
have been worse if I got a tree or
36:58
something that yeah and did he clip a
37:01
petal on the tray no not really I don't
37:05
know what's happened but I think I just
37:11
Co was going too fast and just try to go
37:16
next the bike and yeah was horrible was
37:22
it just after that gap into the
37:24
right-hand corner yeah exactly
37:26
was it the hole there was a big hole
37:28
into the turn was it the hole yeah it
37:31
was just before the ball I think I just
37:33
try to just too fast
37:36
yeah too fast and then I didn't have the
37:38
place to break and then I think I could
37:42
have I can't I'll turn first yeah it was
37:45
like a it's a fairly flat each corner
37:48
isn't it and there's always a chef all
37:50
aware that you could lose yourself in
37:53
and yeah if you don't have time to slow
37:55
down it's gonna be easy to refresh so
38:01
your national championships were in out
38:03
doers I seem to remember the track beam
38:06
was a part of the Megavalanche track
38:09
no no it was maybe oh maybe but it was
38:14
so flat
38:16
yeah like grass corners and rocky trends
38:23
yeah it was this trench track like
38:26
really not even enduro but I don't know
38:29
like ticket put typical type in old
38:31
french trench track yeah yeah right you
38:38
won the junior title
38:40
Remi Tehran when the elite men's race
38:43
but you set the fastest time of the day
38:45
so you also took the elite win is that
38:47
correct yeah so like a Maori and Loras
38:54
of Sat that race out Remi must be
38:57
thinking the jerseys mine for the taking
38:59
here brought his young teammate kind of
39:02
swoops in and takes it how pissed with
39:04
you was he know was okay because you
39:08
know he's a really nice guy so there's
39:12
competitiveness and it was amazing to
39:16
win a race and edit yeah okay when I
39:19
heard that huh Murray lorries we're not
39:22
coming and even like yeah I say okay dad
39:25
coming so I'm going to to show that then
39:28
I start coming so I try to win all the
39:33
week it was this Remi beam national
39:36
champion before I don't know I think
39:39
maybe I don't know maybe in junior right
39:43
okay don't know in edit I think Louie
39:46
corner all the races I think was it
39:49
didn't the year before was it not guy
39:51
tongue Vivi's that was the yeah the
39:54
muddy one wasn't it yeah so do you get
39:59
to wear the sleeve in 2020 then do you
40:01
get to yeah I have to but I think I will
40:05
not really worried yeah
40:07
because it will change over George
40:09
before were you gonna race him oh yeah
40:11
sorry I don't know yeah I don't know we
40:15
see it's not a really problem
40:19
back to the World Cup then you won five
40:22
rounds in total in 2019 and a master of
40:25
a double the number of points of Kaia
40:26
her knee second place which was the
40:29
standout performance for you in 2019 I
40:36
think even if I crush I think it was
40:39
well no yeah yes he was yeah yeah I
40:44
think it was the best week I was I think
40:47
I did everything I had to do during a
40:51
wick race you know I think it was I was
40:56
prepared as if I I will be in hell it
40:59
yeah
41:00
like the lines everything I think way it
41:04
was the best we can even if I crash yeah
41:06
yeah opieop so yeah what will champs
41:10
2019 you see did faith and finished
41:12
fifth only two seconds off the window
41:14
how did that leave you feeling was it a
41:16
different emotion to 2018 yeah
41:20
completely because after one or I will
41:24
lose it it was a good race but then I
41:27
don't know why it goes crazy in the in
41:32
Valdiserri where I crash I almost I
41:34
heard my wrist
41:36
yeah and a lot of crazy finger up and I
41:41
had a flat tire in Linda hide first
41:44
corner so on nothing like federal and
41:46
then in most time after the first bit I
41:50
just snapped the shame and so I was
41:54
unlucky for the last round so who didn't
41:59
even surprise me it was just normal
42:03
yeah yeah and then when I I saw that the
42:07
chain was gone I don't even try to push
42:09
just go to the bottom of the track and
42:12
see what the time don't even push I just
42:15
take it easy in any risk yeah maybe
42:21
you're like with the new Aaron Gwin you
42:23
will well coop overall but it can't you
42:26
know you haven't be successful at the
42:28
World Championships
42:29
yeah yes I'm sure
42:32
would take like so that black career
42:34
yeah for sure
42:36
I love you but yeah it's a hope one day
42:43
I can win a war championship yeah even
42:46
close
42:47
so I'm back to common so what has it
42:50
been like being on the big common
42:51
soldier in the last two years amazing
42:54
you know the team has been so successful
43:00
since I Murray is coming and me and it's
43:07
a big evolution since we since the
43:10
beginning like in the 2017 winter
43:15
everything has changed a lot
43:17
due to this winter you know we move with
43:20
Markov and we switch the ways and a lot
43:26
of little things but the team is going
43:29
bigger and bigger and you see the
43:31
difference and it's amazing to work with
43:34
everybody and it's it's great it does
43:39
always seem like a nice vibe in the Pips
43:42
Miriam
43:43
armory and yourself have won a lot of
43:46
World Cups and Remy's won a World Cup in
43:49
Andorra it's pretty rare for a World Cup
43:52
team to have four riders who vol.1 World
43:57
Cup races Jorge do we do we know how
43:59
many beforehand woman between them I
44:01
done a chance to work out you enjoyed
44:04
you speculate and I'm weather between
44:06
you you've won more than menara law oh I
44:09
think yeah because I'm worried as well
44:11
maybe six six workers Miriam maybe fifth
44:16
me ten yeah easy and I'm and one for
44:21
Remy I think it's something like that if
44:23
you had the war Championships for very
44:25
young she has won yeah I think we good
44:28
so you're the collected goat really then
44:34
so one thing I do know about your team
44:36
is how involves the head engineer Arthur
44:40
is I always kind of see him up on the
44:42
hill looking at lines
44:44
he's under the team tent at the races
44:47
talking with you guys he's a real gem
44:50
he's a nice guy and he's even been and
44:51
asked me what I think of the bike and
44:54
helped me out of events how valuable is
44:57
a as input into that team because that's
44:59
something that people watching on the
45:02
Red Bull would have no idea hey he's a
45:06
quiet guy but he's thinking a lot much
45:11
sometime but he is such a nice guy and
45:14
he helped us a lot on so many aspect
45:18
like on Dubai like on the lines
45:23
sometimes and like you know on
45:27
everything I think even in on the team
45:31
process yeah yeah I think like yeah he's
45:38
engineer so he's so intelligent and he
45:41
has so many idea and yeah help us to to
45:45
to grow and even to go faster but not
45:49
just faster even like yeah he's I don't
45:54
know to explain it but yeah he's really
45:56
Apfel yeah whenever I walk past you can
46:01
or whenever I pop in you can tell he's a
46:03
that is a vital part of what's going on
46:05
in that year and you can see he's always
46:08
trying to make the bike the perfect bike
46:12
and you can see why that Supremes been
46:13
being such a winning machine one one
46:18
thing I didn't ask you about was that
46:20
French World Championships team is quite
46:24
kind of renowned for they put a lot into
46:28
that where they have line spotters on
46:30
the hill they have a big team of people
46:32
trying to win how different was it to
46:35
beam on the common cell team on on a
46:38
weekly basis yeah being on the French
46:45
team with that yeah they put a lot into
46:48
train that their National Federation a
46:51
tional Federation put a lot into trying
46:52
to win World Championships was it
46:55
different being on the console team or
46:57
you know you the common cell team has
46:58
been the most successful team probably
47:00
over the last two two seasons was it any
47:03
different really yeah it was really
47:05
different you know because even if they
47:07
put a lot of work we have our like other
47:11
during their own season we are we with
47:13
the out him so we change everything to
47:17
do with the French national team yeah
47:20
and if they are doing a great job with
47:22
the lines the videos and everything yeah
47:25
you can change everything in one week so
47:27
I don't know if it's the good option or
47:30
not but they are doing good job but I
47:34
think here it's better if we stay in our
47:36
team and continue to do the job with you
47:39
even if it's not the same but but
47:44
they're really helpful for the Lions for
47:46
sure yeah yeah I completely agree it's
47:50
you wouldn't see a Formula One team do
47:53
everything the same for 19 races exactly
47:55
local race of the year send a driver off
47:58
with different staff and yeah you just
48:00
wouldn't do it so yeah I can completely
48:03
understand where you're coming from
48:04
Valley do you do you look at teams like
48:07
the big common cell team and think that
48:11
looks fun of course I mean the strontium
48:19
is awesome I've everything I need to
48:20
have a mechanic like there we can travel
48:23
everywhere we want I can test on new
48:26
products I want to and even which made
48:29
my mechanic it's such a big help because
48:31
for a girl like you're not really into
48:33
all a weird suspension thing or like
48:36
testing stuff or so it's good that you
48:38
have someone who is like doing this
48:40
stuff for you but like in the second
48:42
year like last year here and I really
48:44
wanted to test stuff and change stuff
48:47
even though like we had different
48:48
opinions but I just wants to try out
48:50
what feels good and what is bad yeah and
48:53
of course like especially like a world
48:57
champs that you only see the French team
48:59
like nearly every five meters the French
49:03
uniform on is like filling you with two
49:09
people racing from Austria
49:11
it was a bit weird and there I was like
49:14
across the sea Robin L was racing with
49:16
me the first year 92018 so I could
49:20
follow her all the time but some day the
49:24
French chef trainer said that he's never
49:26
really happy that Cecilia's riding with
49:28
a non Frenchie I was so there was like a
49:32
weird situation but she seems pretty
49:34
cool and she just continued and riding
49:36
with me so I was happy to get some
49:40
before we move into the future talking
49:42
about the future there's a few things we
49:44
wanted to ask you about and firstly who
49:47
did you both look up to when you were
49:49
kind of aspiring to be wilcott racers
49:51
who's who's the hero
49:56
when he first girl first for sure Rachel
50:01
Matheson yeah okay and have you matter
50:03
yeah yeah and what was that like
50:06
do you gets tossed was it a bit
50:08
starstruck or oh so I was like over the
50:12
moon
50:13
I can't even like stand next to her girl
50:15
I'm like so super excited and that it's
50:19
just like crazy to talk to her she's
50:21
like super super into racing like super
50:25
focused and just different mindset and
50:28
approaching things different and like
50:31
makes everything to be the best on the
50:33
day and be everyone that's so impressive
50:36
and what do you think it'll be like when
50:38
you race against her I don't know she's
50:42
gonna be nice do you think it'd be quite
50:46
a big thing to be kind of tiny said last
50:49
week that one of the things for her
50:51
psychologically was that she wanted
50:55
Rachel to be at the bottom of the track
50:57
we're in for tarney to come down to see
51:00
you know so she wasn't in control of her
51:03
own destiny almost I think it was yeah
51:07
is that is that what you think about is
51:10
that do you think I was always a nice
51:15
girl
51:16
the last two years I don't know how that
51:19
feels like that but it's not a big thing
51:20
do you want to say looking forward to
51:24
the day you're like you've got Rachel
51:26
you know you're you I've qualified first
51:29
and they're all waiting for you to come
51:32
down is that something you're I
51:34
definitely make one day for sure but I
51:37
think I don't know how many how many
51:39
years Rachel will be still racing in
51:41
there and you have like so yeah you have
51:44
tiny and all those amazing races we're
51:46
like such good bike riders and I think
51:50
it takes a bit I'm not gonna like going
51:53
to leaves and start winning it's not hi
51:55
works I need to to work hard for that
51:57
and there I'm just super happy to be
51:59
finally up there with them can't wait
52:02
Conan Tebow who was the era Slayer
52:06
it's a Erin green yeah for sure
52:09
yeah I'm a big fan I can say that and
52:14
yeah happy mom is fine yeah yeah maybe
52:19
not the first year because I try to talk
52:22
to him and everything but I was a bit
52:24
too shy and it was not here you know you
52:27
don't see him a lot on the guys well
52:31
already yeah and last last year the
52:35
first race in Maribor just yet I go to
52:39
him in the pits and we we start to chat
52:42
and yeah it was so simple and yeah we
52:45
took few minutes you know and then again
52:48
in the young with the gondola and then
52:50
into the other race and know a few
52:52
minutes you know it's that it's not my
52:54
friend but we talked a bit and yeah it's
52:57
a really nice guy
52:58
yeah so yeah what's the the one thing if
53:02
you if you had to pick one thing that
53:04
you've both learned over the last two
53:06
years of World Cup racing what's the one
53:09
thing that you would you would pick out
53:12
Valley that's a big question it is most
53:16
important lesson you learn yeah the most
53:18
important lesson you've learned
53:21
is it the complacency thing you
53:24
mentioned before I don't know it's
53:28
really hard I think I need to think
53:30
about but it's definitely like use the
53:33
time you get on practice day and do time
53:37
practice even though like maybe you
53:39
don't want to or you tired but really
53:41
like use the time on the first day and
53:44
like watch other people do lines even
53:48
though like you don't have that much
53:49
training time but really use the time
53:51
and stop and watch other people where
53:54
they when I ride cuz I mean it's
53:57
different if you have a big team in the
53:58
film and and you have people telling you
54:00
he's trying that one but when you're
54:03
alone like I really need to stop and
54:04
watch other people and then I think
54:07
that's a big thing that could help you
54:08
yeah Chiba yeah there is not a main
54:13
thing that there is so many little
54:16
points I learned during the two season I
54:19
think it's the two seasons that I
54:22
learned the most in my life you know on
54:25
the bike off the bike during the race
54:28
after the race so to me there is no one
54:32
point I think I can stay there with one
54:35
main point but no I don't know maybe
54:41
yeah the lines for sure taking more time
54:44
on the track that could be the best
54:47
thing see what I wanted to ask you and I
54:50
wanted to ask you earlier and I forgot
54:53
just talking about idols has reminded me
54:56
so obviously moving into Ally what's the
55:02
vibe gonna be like in the pits the first
55:04
time you be armory welcome when you both
55:06
had a good run I don't know if it will
55:10
happen right now you know maybe we will
55:13
take few years yeah hope no you knows
55:15
but what do you think you'll say I don't
55:19
know I don't know I don't know when you
55:24
do is he a super competitive kind of guy
55:26
because we've had we had we were talking
55:29
about this last week that Danny Hart
55:31
said to like on a podcast that he really
55:34
struggles
55:35
be all happy for the people at the
55:37
bottom because he's there to win
55:39
and then a lot of other riders can be
55:41
quite sporting and be cool about not
55:45
winning what summer he like when he
55:47
doesn't win I think he like on his face
55:52
you can see that he is happy even if he
55:54
didn't want but after the race you can
55:56
see that he is not happy really you know
55:59
you saw him but he is a good guy too so
56:03
it's not like he is not not talking to
56:07
you or saying [ __ ] is not like that
56:10
absolutely not so stay nice and just the
56:14
next phase difference and second back
56:17
when you're when you're all riding
56:20
together say we're not does he let you
56:22
go first him yeah did they let you go
56:26
first him Remy
56:28
he's always first in the timing
56:31
everything he's doing maybe the double
56:33
like a more runs than has no crew knows
56:38
everything he's doing more like he's
56:41
never tired always energy is the best
56:46
time he is doing during the team
56:48
competes at 7 p.m. during the night but
56:52
for we are in sorry more on the other
56:54
structure of the YouTube what you've you
57:03
finished 2019 with a trip to Wales I
57:06
know you wrote a revolution bike park
57:09
under Bike Park Wales not many people
57:11
come to Wales in December we don't
57:13
really go to Wales in December me and
57:15
Jack what prompted that trip because
57:17
it's pretty tough Wales in in December
57:20
yeah but the goal was to ride in tough
57:23
conditions right French which is from
57:29
words I don't know where is he exactly
57:31
but yeah II think it was pretty but the
57:36
weather was not too bad I don't know why
57:38
I was really cold in by Tom Wales and in
57:40
revolution I think in the mid day was
57:43
very like but like the typical weather
57:47
like
57:48
windy no D it wasn't extreme it was just
57:52
you making me shiver think about it it
57:56
was really good to write in the roots
57:58
and mud and like short tracks but really
58:03
different than in France and even it was
58:06
very nice cool
58:09
and with that succinct link to
58:11
revolution back part will kick take a
58:13
quick break and we'll return with the
58:15
revolution by part big questions after
58:17
these messages
58:23
on to the revolution bike park big
58:25
questions then question number one and
58:28
let's do ladies first if that's all
58:30
right with the tea bro what's your
58:33
favorite track on the World Cup circuit
58:34
I know the answer I'm gonna yeah go on
58:39
Bali it's gonna be Lia going I'm
58:41
guessing
58:42
oh nice actually she I don't know yeah
58:50
it's a trick what where there's like not
58:54
really a lot of scary stuff like you can
58:57
go like set outs and the big jumps and
59:00
the big grass corners and stuff I like
59:03
it it's nice we have a track here called
59:07
mole free in Wales
59:09
George you live written more free well
59:11
yeah yeah yeah so the top of Lachey the
59:14
first minute is almost exactly the same
59:17
is more free a little bit more turns but
59:19
but yeah just open and faster yeah the
59:23
Masters worlds this year is due to be in
59:26
Pro loop and I don't know if you've
59:28
raced prelude to you know yeah the ribs
59:33
were crushed in youth category so that's
59:38
that a little bit like leisure as well
59:40
no it's more like a normal track you
59:44
know nothing
59:45
no it's normal track like bite Borak
59:48
yeah fresh spots I don't know where
59:50
they're going to do the race but it
59:54
looks like I watched a helmet coming it
59:56
looked pretty good fun it looks like a
59:57
good fun track like I thought AJ looks
1:00:00
like quite a good fun track as well so
1:00:02
Tebow your favourite track on the World
1:00:04
Cup circuit yeah
1:00:09
why just yeah because it's long steep
1:00:13
physical technical so many lines and
1:00:17
it's not like really even if it's
1:00:21
raining it's not too bad like buddy so
1:00:24
you know it could have been really sorry
1:00:26
but no I know for sure because the
1:00:31
the top of the truck is a bit flat so
1:00:32
it's good to have everything on the same
1:00:35
track
1:00:36
[Music]
1:00:37
variety alright guys question to which
1:00:41
section of track on the World Cup
1:00:44
circuit do you find the most difficult
1:00:46
to race question I think it's like in
1:00:53
value so like at the end where you have
1:00:55
to really hard right-hand corner like
1:00:57
the Steve stone yeah man make order
1:01:01
where Greg and I went off track last
1:01:03
year yeah like super tight then you get
1:01:08
in quite you can't get in quite fast but
1:01:11
it's super hard to stay on track I think
1:01:13
and you're super tired like your hands
1:01:16
are dying how do you approach that
1:01:18
valley if you know that that's coming up
1:01:20
and you really you know well I'm just
1:01:24
praying for me okay I need to really
1:01:34
practice that one okay to get better and
1:01:36
to get more confidence for sure
1:01:40
yeah and same for me exactly the same
1:01:44
yeah 100% yeah I need to practice it
1:01:47
right the bottom of the track is
1:01:49
horrible Mohammed or terrible on the
1:01:51
track so yeah same question number three
1:01:56
was the biggest crash you've had so far
1:02:02
me me I take few big crashes but think
1:02:10
it was yeah in one oh yeah the race I
1:02:17
think two times a big crash on the head
1:02:21
yeah oh yeah I think is the one the race
1:02:25
the race crash no Valley mm I think he
1:02:32
wasn't mountain man like I fell down
1:02:34
that rock where Brooke crashed down like
1:02:37
yes exact same spot like it was even in
1:02:40
the same day like junior practice a few
1:02:43
hours before because I think there was
1:02:45
like a small route before you go down
1:02:48
and then everyone like slid out they
1:02:50
were like more juniors like Antoine
1:02:51
Vidal like they all crashed the same day
1:02:54
and like fell down the rocks oh yeah it
1:02:57
was scary to hear that they proved also
1:02:59
crash make sense focus it can go so
1:03:02
quickly on to 2020 then valia I believe
1:03:07
you you weren't planning on race in the
1:03:08
full season this year is that is that
1:03:10
correct yeah and you were going to miss
1:03:13
two World Cups with which two were you
1:03:15
gonna miss I was wishing and for William
1:03:20
and was that a I know you want to finish
1:03:25
school but was that kind of partly a
1:03:28
psychological thing did it take the
1:03:30
pressure off knowing that you wouldn't
1:03:32
be competing for the overall well not
1:03:35
really but school right now it's just
1:03:37
way more important and racing bikes cuz
1:03:40
it's it's important that you have
1:03:42
something and my parents like really
1:03:44
want me to finish school and for me to
1:03:46
because you know it can happen so
1:03:48
quickly you can crash and never go
1:03:50
racing again and you still want to make
1:03:52
something out of your life after I mean
1:03:54
you have to be a lucky lucky lucky racer
1:03:57
like speed or or he evidence to to build
1:04:00
something in your racing career to live
1:04:02
from that after you finish racing so
1:04:05
yeah just wanted to get school done and
1:04:07
then you can focus on racing yeah I
1:04:09
wanted to go into this with you so I I
1:04:12
was shocked when I heard that
1:04:15
school commitments meant that you
1:04:16
wouldn't be competing in in the first in
1:04:18
a full World Cup season after showing so
1:04:21
much potential as a junior is it
1:04:23
completely your choice or is it
1:04:25
compulsory to stay in school your age no
1:04:30
it's like like a normal thing like
1:04:32
school ends in the end of May so end of
1:04:36
June so what William yes I mean I didn't
1:04:40
go to school for twelve years to to you
1:04:44
know to not finish it that would be
1:04:46
stupid okay just when I get it done
1:04:48
forever and then I don't have to go
1:04:50
there again would you have had the
1:04:54
choice to walk away from it this year
1:04:57
and do a full race season if you'd
1:05:00
wanted to well I could do the a finals
1:05:03
like in September but as we have two big
1:05:05
gap like we have three races in
1:05:07
September so I would have to wait like a
1:05:09
full year to do the exams but it's hard
1:05:12
to like you know remember all the stuff
1:05:15
you learn like this so there would be
1:05:19
like stupid not to do a lot of young
1:05:22
races in the UK or you show any kind of
1:05:25
degree of pace nothing compared with
1:05:29
what you've achieved so far with all the
1:05:30
podiums and all the race wins they tend
1:05:33
to completely forget about the
1:05:34
importance of school and focus on their
1:05:36
riding and their racing so yeah I think
1:05:39
it'll be really good for those kids to
1:05:42
see what the example you're setting as a
1:05:44
top athlete do you still enjoy the
1:05:47
school work or is it kind of just
1:05:49
something that you just want to see the
1:05:51
end of now for sure like it's it's a
1:05:54
little bit boring and it's hard to get
1:05:58
focused when you know like you go racing
1:06:00
and you go home on Sunday and you're
1:06:02
back to school on Monday I think now
1:06:04
with floor you can pom pom like you have
1:06:06
so many good races we like finish school
1:06:09
and have a degree I think that motivates
1:06:11
young people to to get school done and
1:06:14
then you can be like a smart racer yeah
1:06:18
I started racing World Cups in 2010 and
1:06:21
I was already into my second year of
1:06:22
university then doing optometry so ya
1:06:25
know I know the frustration folios
1:06:27
wanting to go
1:06:28
and having to do your school but being
1:06:32
able to be an optometrist alongside the
1:06:34
racing I've done has just been so
1:06:37
effective and I would have run out of
1:06:39
money a long time ago and not being able
1:06:42
to build up my racing career without it
1:06:45
that's for sure do you kind of have
1:06:47
plans or any idea of jobs you want to do
1:06:51
a long side racing or is it more
1:06:53
something that you want to have after
1:06:55
racing well I think it's always good to
1:06:59
have like a backup and I think you kind
1:07:01
of owed it to your parents like they put
1:07:03
so much money and helping you to go
1:07:05
racing so it's the only thing you can do
1:07:08
like get a degree in school and then you
1:07:12
can earn money from yourself if you
1:07:13
don't earn it for racing it's so yeah I
1:07:17
mean I will have my degree in May so I
1:07:20
will see how how a thing like goes on in
1:07:23
Austria with like going to study if it
1:07:26
even possible like in yeah so I will see
1:07:30
if I start this year or next year like
1:07:31
gonna see how everything progressed with
1:07:34
the stupid virus ah yeah yeah I think
1:07:37
it's like you said a lot of young people
1:07:39
don't appreciate how short a downhill
1:07:41
career can be and how little money can
1:07:45
be involved unless you make it to the
1:07:47
very top of the sport like those people
1:07:49
you mentioned so it is really good to
1:07:52
get that back up lock down at a young
1:07:55
age and I don't think you want to beg
1:07:58
your parents all the time until you're
1:08:00
like Sohni a does something so yeah
1:08:06
that's that's really impressive and it's
1:08:07
it's a really mature earth Julie I used
1:08:09
to study in any anything specific at
1:08:12
school at the moment or is it just
1:08:13
general example I would like a sport
1:08:16
school so we had like sports science
1:08:18
which was super interesting because you
1:08:20
learned everything about like how the
1:08:22
body works how training works yeah I
1:08:24
think I could learn a lot from that and
1:08:26
there bring it into into racing it's
1:08:29
been a nice crossover our fair play
1:08:31
that's really impressive
1:08:32
Tibo what is your current situation with
1:08:35
school where where are you so how's it
1:08:37
working in France for you
1:08:38
yeah I'm continue school
1:08:42
my first year after the bacchanal know
1:08:45
if you know that yeah I don't know maybe
1:08:48
Valley know is how we how do you pull
1:08:50
that like after when you finish school I
1:08:55
don't know yes the back of the head yeah
1:08:58
yeah yeah and then you go one more year
1:09:02
two more year or five more years if you
1:09:04
want no it's my first year one more year
1:09:08
after that for the moment I'm going to
1:09:11
do two more years to have a license yeah
1:09:15
yeah are you still doing anything
1:09:17
specific
1:09:18
it's out to manage a firm yeah yeah yeah
1:09:24
yeah it's kind of that yeah awesome
1:09:27
and how is the coronavirus stuff
1:09:32
affecting both of you in terms of exams
1:09:35
and studies what's the situation
1:09:37
I let you go first a bit full helpful
1:09:43
for me because I just have like distance
1:09:46
school so I'm not doing it so good
1:09:53
things so not too bad for the moment
1:09:57
because it's a bit boring it's good to
1:09:59
school even if you had to and it's
1:10:01
important sometimes it's not pretty
1:10:04
great a hundred percent it used to drive
1:10:06
me up a wall but yeah you just gotta get
1:10:08
it Donnelly yeah no yeah it's not too
1:10:11
bad
1:10:11
just doing it when I hire half to four
1:10:16
the eye exam it's only the next year so
1:10:18
there is no problem for the moment
1:10:20
that's cool yeah my first World Cup
1:10:23
season obviously I was nowhere near that
1:10:25
level of you guys I was just this super
1:10:27
excited I think I must have been 20
1:10:30
maybe 21 I was just super excited to be
1:10:33
there and I missed Fort Williams and
1:10:35
exams and yeah the frustration is
1:10:39
next-level what's the situation with you
1:10:42
in exams values everything on hold or is
1:10:43
it still going ahead like it was super
1:10:46
weird like we get like when the news
1:10:49
came that the corona wanna virus is
1:10:51
gonna affect us really bad like we got
1:10:53
like kind of kicked out of school like
1:10:55
quickly and Austria is not really well
1:10:59
prepared with all the distance learning
1:11:01
right all the online platforms and
1:11:03
wasn't really working like the first
1:11:05
three weeks like we didn't hear anything
1:11:06
from how teachers goes like all the
1:11:09
platforms
1:11:10
it really works there it was nice fast
1:11:12
because we had like coronavirus holiday
1:11:14
so we enjoy pretty well but then you
1:11:17
come to the point where you know you
1:11:19
have your iPhones and it's actually
1:11:21
pretty shitty if you don't see your
1:11:22
teachers and yeah so there it's like
1:11:26
really tough but like on Monday we have
1:11:29
to go back to school like only our class
1:11:31
like we are only 20 people were in
1:11:34
school to have like a few hours of like
1:11:38
preparing for the for the big exams
1:11:40
Sarah so your exams are still going
1:11:43
ahead yeah see in the UK what they've
1:11:46
done I think I'm right here George is
1:11:48
that all the GCSE which is the 16 year
1:11:51
old exams and all the 18 year old exams
1:11:54
they're not taking them they're just
1:11:55
getting given grades their teachers
1:11:57
predict yeah there's a lot actually
1:12:00
supports doing that I think also yeah
1:12:10
also I I think another like Belgium I
1:12:13
think they also did it and I was like
1:12:16
why don't we do it like I mean with I'm
1:12:19
sorry for so many years already like why
1:12:21
can't we just get the degree in a night
1:12:24
bye-bye news all around I mean not that
1:12:28
easy
1:12:31
you both like you both 18 it was a long
1:12:35
time ago but I remember being 18 and all
1:12:38
I wanted to do when I was 18 was party I
1:12:40
guess that's what all your friends are
1:12:43
doing how do you deal with that being
1:12:46
you know for us for me it's easy because
1:12:51
I don't really like to party I think
1:12:53
I'll learn how to party in World Cups
1:12:55
yeah because before me yeah my friend of
1:13:03
doing that but they knew that I don't
1:13:06
like that and I'm not going there
1:13:07
because I had to train and
1:13:09
cat Hurley and you know relax in the
1:13:13
night everything so yeah it's not a
1:13:16
problem for me I'm not a party game
1:13:18
really I cannot see what a first year
1:13:22
was a big party year for juniors coming
1:13:36
into those woke up after parties you see
1:13:39
all your big hair is like getting drunk
1:13:44
[Laughter]
1:13:47
charge so the genius - yeah of course
1:13:54
so deep do you have any hobbies away
1:13:57
from biking yeah me yes thank you like
1:14:04
each model for sure a finger as on the
1:14:08
races motto and like wake surfing yeah
1:14:14
and like a small car
1:14:18
you know like electric car yeah how are
1:14:26
you still ski obviously right still a
1:14:30
big part of my life actually because I
1:14:33
spend a few years racing skiing and then
1:14:36
yeah just like going back home to skiing
1:14:39
in the winter it's just they're super
1:14:41
primates so good yeah nice
1:14:45
so Valley Tony said last week she was
1:14:48
super excited to see how you're gonna
1:14:49
get on in your first year and I think
1:14:52
her words were she was sad she'd be sad
1:14:54
to see if you first will cook season in
1:14:56
elite would be taken away from you
1:14:58
because it was a really special time for
1:15:00
her it has to be the most wide up and
1:15:04
the female category has ever been for
1:15:06
sure you've got Rachel as you said best
1:15:09
rider of a generation recovering from
1:15:11
another injury injury tarney with two
1:15:13
injuries she's second twice in the
1:15:16
overall and second twice at world champs
1:15:19
Myriam 2017 overall winner and 2019
1:15:22
jam and then you've got Tracy who's just
1:15:25
won the overall last year for the first
1:15:26
time marine who's pushed her very close
1:15:30
and is clearly a huge talent
1:15:32
we've got yourself adding into the mix
1:15:34
plus a big group of other riders who
1:15:36
really stepped up to the mark last year
1:15:39
and filled those spaces and yeah it's
1:15:42
going to be very competitive are you
1:15:43
excited to jump up to aletan and get in
1:15:47
the fight yeah it's a I can't wait it's
1:15:50
super impressive and it's also like so
1:15:53
cool to see like how good the girls got
1:15:56
because like the last past years it was
1:15:57
only like Rachel and then you had like
1:15:59
second effort who were like sloppy and
1:16:02
they're like fourth and fifth but now
1:16:04
it's like so hard to even like get on
1:16:06
the podium and now we're like everyone
1:16:09
is recovering everyone has time to
1:16:11
really prepare and train it's gonna be
1:16:14
intense
1:16:16
you know I think that when there would
1:16:17
be like more intense women racing then
1:16:21
the next few years
1:16:22
wait and the reason I listed all that
1:16:25
stuff is for my next question what what
1:16:28
are your aims going into the season well
1:16:30
I think I'm just gonna approach it like
1:16:33
it they was my first junior year like
1:16:35
just trying to be consistent like
1:16:37
learning and trying to adapt as quickly
1:16:40
as possible and yeah just giving like
1:16:44
the best from from the bottom to the
1:16:46
finish line and not like Antonius way
1:16:48
knew like you can show up it you just
1:16:50
have to give you very best and if that's
1:16:53
not enough you have to train more yeah
1:16:55
nice it's a strong attitude fingers
1:16:59
crossed this is not going to happen but
1:17:00
how annoyed will you be if world champs
1:17:02
on your home track is cancelled I mean
1:17:06
it's a really big thing to have like
1:17:08
roots or even like woke up in your
1:17:10
hometown because all your family is
1:17:13
there like like small like newspapers
1:17:16
and stuff like so many people want
1:17:18
something from you and it's not like I
1:17:21
write every day cuz they're I mean Leo
1:17:24
gang is a cool track but not really good
1:17:26
for like training down home because it's
1:17:28
not like technical so you rather go to
1:17:30
Schladming where you have like any love
1:17:32
yeah routes and big jumps and stuff so
1:17:36
don't think I have advantage maybe I
1:17:38
read them motivate this summer like
1:17:40
every day it's not where you can gain a
1:17:44
lot of hundreds maybe maybe I would go
1:17:48
with the skins and try different stuff
1:17:51
vivo you start see 20/20 with a crash at
1:17:54
the breed Cup in early March what
1:17:57
happened and what damage did you do to
1:17:59
the knee ah just the posterior ligament
1:18:02
mmm that almost broke like almost just
1:18:06
purely things this thing yeah oh yeah
1:18:12
Liam so only for like don't even crash
1:18:17
only on the right corner just slide and
1:18:20
go to a rock on the side of the track
1:18:23
and it was so painful and me a few days
1:18:30
later just take AJ do an x-ray and it
1:18:33
was really bad so the doctor say that
1:18:37
had the form of to be ready yeah Oh
1:18:43
check if I had to be to having surgery
1:18:51
yes I thank you surgery or not but
1:18:54
hopefully like I didn't do it it was
1:18:58
really good because now it's going
1:19:00
really quick and the knee is almost
1:19:03
ready
1:19:04
I can move on Lonnie and I can do like
1:19:09
little little squats I can pedal and I
1:19:12
can do some gym gym workout too to get
1:19:16
the Denis stronger and then we on the
1:19:20
downhill bike the quickest I can when
1:19:23
which round were you hoping to come back
1:19:25
for normally it was for the four from I
1:19:30
think no I think was for we young was
1:19:38
possible nada
1:19:40
we thought the knee is going I think I
1:19:43
could have done the maribor race I think
1:19:46
with few risks but
1:19:48
I could have done that I may be legit
1:19:50
but it's maybe it was too much risk for
1:19:53
for first racing edit you know yeah so I
1:19:56
think I will have wait one more time
1:20:00
how's the knee injury how has that
1:20:03
impacted you Rams coming into this
1:20:05
season basically has changed nothing to
1:20:13
my goals because I always have the same
1:20:16
goal I was really prepared for the
1:20:18
season
1:20:19
yeah was feeling good but with the the
1:20:24
gap we have in the summer I knew that I
1:20:27
could have like train more and take the
1:20:32
time I lost during the few months
1:20:35
yeah was injured so yeah it doesn't
1:20:38
change the other thing just that I
1:20:40
missed few races and the experience I
1:20:43
could get for the first few rounds will
1:20:46
not have done I've done for the last few
1:20:49
rounds but now I don't know we will see
1:20:52
there is a race issue a lot well it
1:20:56
looks like we might have some as we said
1:20:57
at the start they do his talk yesterday
1:20:59
I saw that there might be some racing so
1:21:01
that would be good let's finish with
1:21:03
some questions for each of you then
1:21:05
let's start with some about racing
1:21:07
valley last week tani said that she had
1:21:10
to really work on her first sector of
1:21:13
track she said that she was always a bit
1:21:15
too chilled at the start and had slow
1:21:17
first splits and you said that earlier
1:21:19
on tonight as well is that the main
1:21:21
thing you think that you have to you had
1:21:23
to improve on in 2020 yeah I think just
1:21:28
go flat out on top and they're just
1:21:32
trying to give my best and I think it's
1:21:35
hard to see cuz I mean I was racing
1:21:38
against unions and I was always like up
1:21:41
at the Spitzer I never know like where
1:21:43
my weakness was but I think I was really
1:21:44
strong at the end but you can make up
1:21:47
time already on the top and tried to
1:21:49
keep the flow right answer the fish
1:21:51
would be even better is there any other
1:21:54
areas you thought you needed to work on
1:21:56
well I think it's just my lease all the
1:21:59
whole track
1:22:02
you find me
1:22:04
and save her what about you Edd's the
1:22:07
bottom of the track for sure because
1:22:09
lows like one second this part of the
1:22:13
track yeah I stopped being like already
1:22:17
2 seconds at the first pitch so he had
1:22:18
the bottom of the track and improve all
1:22:22
the tracks in general you know yes so
1:22:29
how'd you train you know your approach
1:22:32
for either of you changed knowing you're
1:22:35
now going up against the elites rather
1:22:36
than based in the juniors I'll let you
1:22:38
keep it off yeah for me not really cuz
1:22:41
I'm still in school so I have the same
1:22:43
amount of time do I get the last two
1:22:45
years
1:22:46
yeah so actually like now with the virus
1:22:50
and not being in school I have all day
1:22:52
long time to Train it's refocus you can
1:22:55
do like one session in the morning one
1:22:56
session in the afternoon and also get
1:22:59
like the recovery like going into the
1:23:00
sound or like doing ice baths and stuff
1:23:02
like that that's cool to like try to
1:23:05
time outs I know how it is when I'm done
1:23:07
with school and be like a pro and really
1:23:10
like do everything and do everyday
1:23:12
something for now like you're in school
1:23:15
on 2 4 or 5 o'clock and then you could
1:23:17
go to gym you're super tired better you
1:23:20
have to go home and like study and stuff
1:23:22
so can't wait until a lifetime and try
1:23:25
the pro life and then I guess see what
1:23:31
you've been working on your navy but
1:23:34
what were there any plans to change up
1:23:37
the way you do your training you know
1:23:39
this you have more time because the time
1:23:41
of school was shorter so I have more
1:23:46
time to Train yeah just do more session
1:23:50
like one in the morning one in the
1:23:52
afternoon and between in between go to
1:23:55
school so yeah it's really really
1:23:58
benefit and it's so good like you feel
1:24:04
that you're stronger on the bike and if
1:24:07
you faster you don't know until the
1:24:09
first race but now it's really good and
1:24:13
you know yeah I can't wait to do
1:24:14
only that in the day know that because
1:24:18
you have 24 hours in the day so yeah
1:24:21
yeah the most stuff but in the game
1:24:24
focus they like the conversations we've
1:24:27
had with people over the last few weeks
1:24:30
it seems to be two approaches to the
1:24:34
lockdown or the the extended off-season
1:24:37
should we call it and you guys have the
1:24:40
same approach as I do in the it's just
1:24:43
more time to Train and restructure and
1:24:45
find better ways to make yourself a
1:24:47
better rider and then I won't name any
1:24:50
one but we've been hearing that other
1:24:53
riders are just seen as a little bit of
1:24:54
a holiday time off work and you do just
1:24:58
wonder when we do get given the green
1:25:01
light how much it is gonna show the guys
1:25:04
who've gone right this is time for us to
1:25:06
be a super prepared and use all of it
1:25:10
for a benefit compared with people
1:25:12
who've gone I'll have a two-month
1:25:14
holiday and and chill out so yeah it's
1:25:18
gonna be interesting do either of you
1:25:22
use a sports psychologist towards you
1:25:24
your mental preparation so anything
1:25:27
you've done yeah I I do two of you have
1:25:32
you done any kind of stuff like that
1:25:34
before
1:25:34
no no nothing okay well how important do
1:25:39
you feel that is towards racing nowadays
1:25:43
it wasn't really just for racing like
1:25:45
internally because you talk about your
1:25:47
whole life and then trying to balance
1:25:49
like school and family and and your
1:25:52
racing career and then sponsors and
1:25:55
stuff cuz I think it comes right it hits
1:25:58
you pretty pretty hard from like Racing
1:26:01
youth and then eh um you get so much
1:26:03
like exposure from from from social
1:26:07
media and sponsors and so many people
1:26:09
like start talking to you you can't
1:26:11
really prepare for that and it just hits
1:26:13
you and then but you're still in school
1:26:15
like have a normal like youngster life
1:26:19
and sucks it's it helped me to balance
1:26:22
stuff and a great separate like racing
1:26:24
from school and like my normal I think
1:26:26
going out with friends and stuff so
1:26:28
it was a big help did you find it hard
1:26:31
to say no to things I at the beginning
1:26:35
yeah and it was it was tough because of
1:26:39
court like you're super so when people
1:26:41
want something from you or like say all
1:26:43
it's so interview and stuff but like if
1:26:46
it's like before your race run or stuff
1:26:48
like that or like distracting you from
1:26:50
concentrating on the race oh you had a
1:26:52
bad head training day a bad qualifier
1:26:54
and then people want to start yeah
1:26:56
want to talk to you all the time like
1:26:58
it's it's hard to say no cuz because
1:27:01
they know people say uh
1:27:02
like she's pissed off and she's never
1:27:05
getting because she's not talking to me
1:27:06
instance it's it's it's good to have
1:27:09
someone who tells you that you can't say
1:27:11
no and it's not because you're Aryans
1:27:14
yeah just because you've not got time
1:27:16
there did you did you find that it it
1:27:19
helped with race day preparation dealing
1:27:22
with nerves and things like that
1:27:24
yeah I think you have a lot of people
1:27:27
can help you like even if it's the
1:27:29
physio stuff like like I was working
1:27:33
with the body mechanic which helped me a
1:27:36
lot cause here like some breathing
1:27:38
techniques and stuff just to calm you
1:27:40
down or I think even the night before
1:27:42
your race from like you can't get sleep
1:27:45
and stuff so it helps you like just
1:27:46
breathing and really like trying to calm
1:27:49
down that's good
1:27:51
yeah I agree I was lucky enough to get
1:27:54
put with a sports psychologist when I
1:27:56
was at uni and you're dead right the
1:27:58
work I did with him wasn't just helpful
1:28:00
for racing but it's also so helpful for
1:28:02
just day today yeah Tibo do you ever
1:28:07
think that's sports psychology is
1:28:09
anything you will want to utilize in
1:28:11
your career or is it not something
1:28:13
you've ever thought about I'll follow my
1:28:15
mind I don't like to talk to people
1:28:18
someone that I don't know you know yeah
1:28:20
okay for the moment it's my dad we will
1:28:24
doing that like when I'm not with you
1:28:25
say yeah I come on like my even my
1:28:31
mother maybe more for me the family is
1:28:36
okay for that oh I don't I don't need it
1:28:39
I don't know if I need it but I don't
1:28:43
yeah yeah it's odd to me to to maybe to
1:28:48
speak to someone so yeah it's kind of
1:28:52
free and follow my mind ya know I think
1:28:56
a lot of people sport psychology is one
1:28:58
of those things that one while you feel
1:29:01
good you don't feel like you need it and
1:29:03
then two until you've tried it you don't
1:29:07
know whether whether it's helpful or no
1:29:09
so you guys have helped him with your
1:29:12
your kind of Racecraft you just
1:29:15
mentioned you your dad there who kind of
1:29:17
helps you with you erase preparation in
1:29:20
your your your kind of strategy with
1:29:22
racing yeah for sure
1:29:24
has been there all the time when I was
1:29:27
racing mix it just take me to the races
1:29:29
like in Belgium for be mixing like all
1:29:34
around Europe so it take it took a lot
1:29:38
of time from from his work to for me and
1:29:42
even new category to fall down him even
1:29:46
if it was more in French in France and
1:29:49
now that and it was like kind of my
1:29:54
mechanic in your category so it was
1:29:57
really stressful for him because yeah
1:30:00
you don't want to have a mechanical or
1:30:02
something up and on the bike from u-dub
1:30:06
you know yes now is really chill just
1:30:10
he's coming to like almost every races
1:30:13
to to see me and to see the elites and
1:30:17
everybody races because he loved the
1:30:19
sport and it's good to me to have my
1:30:21
family under on the race too I know
1:30:25
to relax and and I like to have my
1:30:27
family on the race nice and valid you
1:30:30
can still come to the events and yeah
1:30:34
it's the same like my dad always drove
1:30:37
me to the races and wasn't it was the
1:30:39
driver was the chef was the mechanics
1:30:42
yeah and I think we are super lucky
1:30:45
they're like parents who support one and
1:30:48
even like even if you're in a big team
1:30:50
they still come and like celebrate with
1:30:52
you and watch you and just good to know
1:30:55
that they're here
1:30:56
even though you're done when you need
1:30:57
them anymore but it's good after the
1:30:59
race there you can go to them yeah
1:31:02
that's awesome so you both dominated
1:31:05
your categories as we've said but apart
1:31:07
from maybe Crankworx Valley you've never
1:31:09
been on the live feed
1:31:11
certainly the World Cups how excited are
1:31:13
you both for that day you qualify in the
1:31:15
in the live feed and get to race in
1:31:18
front of the world I can't wait yeah if
1:31:23
it happens you know if I'm top twenty
1:31:25
year it will be amazing more visibility
1:31:29
and just great to see you run one more
1:31:32
time
1:31:32
you know many times you can see you
1:31:35
mystics or maybe good lines you don't
1:31:38
know but figures really - it's not just
1:31:41
great riding but great - to learn into
1:31:45
to study your riding that's one of my
1:31:49
favorite things about it afterwards
1:31:50
being able to have a look at you run and
1:31:53
then also before there's something about
1:31:57
knowing that all your friends and family
1:31:58
are gonna be watching as opposed to if
1:32:01
you've qualified 25th or whatever and
1:32:03
you know you're not gonna be on the live
1:32:05
whereas if you're gonna be on TV and
1:32:07
your mates at home I'm gonna be watching
1:32:09
with a beer it just fires you up a
1:32:10
little bit more it's yeah I think that
1:32:13
life timing like what my parents do when
1:32:16
they can't come or fly over to the races
1:32:18
like just waiting until the split time
1:32:20
like like you go for the splits on that
1:32:23
must be terrible because you can't see
1:32:25
us like it's just waiting for the splits
1:32:27
to come and then you go to the finish
1:32:29
that must be terrible I think those
1:32:31
minutes yeah I think my mom still has a
1:32:36
heart attack every time she waits
1:32:37
someone xsplit you guys do you guys know
1:32:45
if you will be in Group B practice that
1:32:47
you first elite woke up or did you know
1:32:50
that yeah yeah I think I will not
1:32:54
because I'm you know you said points
1:32:56
yeah I'm top 20 I think between 20 and
1:33:01
25 so I don't think so I hope so I hope
1:33:05
no but well do you think your rank
1:33:09
now I think I'm and B practice but I can
1:33:13
do their time training because I'm truly
1:33:17
a world champion so you go into elites
1:33:20
like junior world champions can and
1:33:22
taking God's time practice practice
1:33:25
that's yeah let's finish with a little
1:33:30
bit of chat about your race bikes you
1:33:31
were both on twenty nine as last season
1:33:34
did you have to adapt your riding style
1:33:36
for the for the bigger wheels all you go
1:33:41
first oh yeah oh yeah for myself it's
1:33:43
been kind of weird because I loved the
1:33:46
29 first but then during the two years I
1:33:49
work I ride it it just like change my
1:33:53
position on the bike and was not great
1:33:57
because I was so tight and yeah nothing
1:34:00
good and this winter we moved to the 27
1:34:03
on the backend I just have a new life
1:34:07
yeah for sure do you were planning on
1:34:10
racing like a mullet for the state this
1:34:12
season yeah yeah the old team is going
1:34:16
on the mullet and it's so great you know
1:34:18
it's I think it's faster even if it's
1:34:21
not faster it's just funnier and you
1:34:24
feel better on the bike just more
1:34:27
natural and you don't have this big
1:34:29
wheel out in your house every time and
1:34:33
you can even up the jumps you are like
1:34:36
it's more funny easier yeah and you can
1:34:40
push more and be more in control with
1:34:43
the bike so yeah to me it's a big
1:34:46
evolution really yeah I was racing the
1:34:51
first to new year with the 27 and a half
1:34:53
and then in the offseason we spoke to a
1:34:56
29er which was funny actually because
1:34:59
when we got good testing frame like I
1:35:02
got sick and I was in France so I
1:35:04
couldn't ride cuz I was like throwing up
1:35:06
on time so Matt my mechanic which is
1:35:08
like nearly the same size as me like was
1:35:11
testing the bike and he was like ok you
1:35:14
can ride this so I haven't touched it by
1:35:16
you know and he ordered all the carts
1:35:18
and I was just trusting him I can ride
1:35:21
that bike so
1:35:23
I was thinking Valley that was like you
1:35:26
stupid why would you trust him like you
1:35:28
never touch the bike when I wrote it
1:35:30
like I was super stoked it was just so
1:35:33
much safer and you fell more likes their
1:35:36
lies and stuff yeah I was getting on
1:35:39
with it really well even though I'm not
1:35:41
that tall so uh yes dope but I hid my
1:35:44
bomb on its answer we would you've been
1:35:47
on a full 20 minute well are you gonna
1:35:49
be on a full 29 of the season
1:35:51
yes we tried the mallet but it's not
1:35:54
working with the frame I think they have
1:35:55
to do like a different linkage yeah in
1:35:58
the rear so this year we go with Tony
1:36:00
Lana
1:36:02
so aside from wheel size have either of
1:36:05
you kind of changed your setup much from
1:36:08
when you started racing World Cups so
1:36:10
now or is the main thing that you try
1:36:13
the wheel size I changed I try quite a
1:36:18
lot of thing you know
1:36:20
so did hear more coming back to the
1:36:24
basic but that was the first year maybe
1:36:26
like more stable like a less like stiff
1:36:33
bike because the last year of my bike
1:36:36
was really dynamic and really stiff so
1:36:39
we had this year more like soft and more
1:36:42
more people yeah well we went a bit
1:36:49
stiffer like with my setup because I
1:36:51
just got stronger
1:36:53
like I just develop a lot the last two
1:36:56
years so you can't compare my setup from
1:36:59
the first good to know
1:37:00
yeah it's trouble to ride your the bike
1:37:02
that you were riding at the first race
1:37:04
in 2018 if you roll in today for sure
1:37:08
like you know it's cool it's cool to see
1:37:11
the progress thank you why you gain when
1:37:13
you train and stuff absolutely you've
1:37:16
whitey since you were 13 right yeah so
1:37:19
if you have you ever ridden any other
1:37:21
bikes really maybe just out of kind of
1:37:34
curiosity
1:37:36
ya know I'm pretty like partnership for
1:37:42
so long because I mean it was like a
1:37:43
six-year country when I signed it
1:37:45
oh my parents sign it for me sir I
1:37:47
didn't even know if I'm gonna like do
1:37:51
World Cups or like keep racing and to
1:37:53
have that possibility with just want him
1:37:55
to get YT into the team it's pretty sick
1:37:59
so I'm pretty happy that everything
1:38:00
worked out yeah cool so the the comments
1:38:03
all you we're gonna be you're gonna be
1:38:05
riding Tebow and it's like completely
1:38:07
new frame a new design or is it the same
1:38:12
one that kind of Jax ride in but with a
1:38:15
different link under Miller yeah I don't
1:38:22
know it's not a completely new bike just
1:38:25
like her add that for the 27 bucks right
1:38:28
okay like the link it I think it's a bit
1:38:31
different the the side of the back yeah
1:38:35
and meshing some little force as they
1:38:38
hang different hanger you know but still
1:38:41
pivot and yeah but the happy boot is a
1:38:45
bit lower I think they're just like you
1:38:49
just adapt for the
1:38:51
refining it every year well look best
1:38:55
best of luck to you both when we do
1:38:57
eventually go racing and thank you very
1:38:58
much for coming on the show I have a
1:39:01
terrible memory so I particularly
1:39:02
enjoyed this episode because I can
1:39:04
genuinely remember all the races that
1:39:06
we've talked about anything beyond about
1:39:08
two years and I start struggling so
1:39:11
really enjoyable to do this one where's
1:39:14
the best place for people to kind of
1:39:15
keep track of your of your progress is
1:39:17
it Instagram yeah yeah yeah and it's
1:39:21
flat Valley Hall and a brother brother
1:39:24
yeah exactly
1:39:26
cool Jack yeah I'm just the same nothing
1:39:30
changed got the Instagram there and then
1:39:32
the mountain bike life series on YouTube
1:39:34
so if you're watching it well we're
1:39:45
making up the numbers racing thanks very
1:39:47
much to our sponsors for the podcast
1:39:49
hope technology
1:39:50
bikepark Schwalb and singletrack
1:39:52
WorldCom I'd just like to end with a
1:39:54
couple of quick thank-yous firstly we'd
1:39:57
just like to thank everybody from for
1:39:58
the messages we've received over the
1:40:00
last few weeks from people all around
1:40:01
the world saying how much you're
1:40:03
enjoying the show it was never in the
1:40:05
plan for us to put an episode out every
1:40:06
week this season but once the lockdown
1:40:08
started we thought it would be a good
1:40:10
opportunity to give everyone who loves
1:40:12
racing a bit of a downhill fix every
1:40:14
weekend and it's great to hear that the
1:40:15
show's helping you gonna get through
1:40:17
these difficult times and secondly add
1:40:20
just a quick thank you from me - Neil
1:40:21
White whilst Jack and I have our own
1:40:24
questions obviously for all the guests
1:40:26
we have on the show Neil's busy working
1:40:28
away in the background research in
1:40:29
frozen submitting questions of his own
1:40:31
and I just want to say thank you to him
1:40:33
for all his hard work and patience
1:40:34
particularly when it comes to explaining
1:40:36
[ __ ] off sir
1:40:37
I want ask again I promise we'll be back
1:40:40
with another episode very soon thanks
1:40:41
very much for listening

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