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In this episode George, Jack and Emilie wrap up the Val Di Sole World Cup and reflect on the season so far, then they’re joined by Norco Factory Team’s Gracey Hemstreet, the Canadian sensation who’s having a fantastic first season in Elite; before rounding out the show with a few predictions for Red Bull Hardline and World Champs.
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hello and welcome to season 5 episode 4
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of the pod which also happens to be
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episode number 50 and in this episode
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we're going to be wrapping up the
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valdisol World Cup and reflecting on the
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season so far then we'll be joined by
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Gracie hamstrie the Canadian sensation
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who's having a fantastic first season in
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Elite before rounding out the show with
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a few predictions for Hardline and World
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Champs but first
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pink bike kindly shared a couple of
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episodes of the pod in their July
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Roundup so big thanks to Brian and
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Christy for that but in the comments I
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know never read the pink bike comments
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but I did and Mr Christian was asking
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who's the guy with the rich Northern
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accent who's the guy who's been racing
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in Portugal didn't have any questions
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about you Emmy but just me and jack it
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seems
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um
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but it made me think that the pods
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become pretty well established now to
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the point that I don't I don't introduce
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myself anymore I don't introduce you
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guys we just get on with it but we've
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added a lot of listeners over the last
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year and maybe got a bit too comfortable
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so maybe we should intro ourselves for
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the new listeners
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who wants to go first
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I can go first I don't mind yeah yeah
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so my name is Emmy is not actually my
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real name Emily sieguntala is my real
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name yeah I'm from Switzerland I'm
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getting 37 this year we're just
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threatening and I've been racing down a
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walk up for 15 years and I retired two
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years ago
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so yeah that's it how many World Cup
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podiums was it
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oh George
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sixteen fourteen sixteen fifteen I can
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remember you told me and I was like oh
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wow yeah maybe it was more than that I
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remember it was in the you know there's
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an episode with ma from probably about
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two years ago
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at the end of the season and in there we
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detailed it didn't we I remember that
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so yes probably about
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I can't remember I think it was I
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thought it was 14 then but then I think
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it's more now I think it's maybe 19 or
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20. I think 16 because I was like really
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you did good you did good I did I did
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okay yeah I did okay and that was a
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lovely introduction Jack
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um okay I'm prepared anything so I'm
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just going to speak
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um it's like a little interview yeah my
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name is
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um I've been racing World Cup Downhill
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since 2010
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I kind of fell into it I'm an
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optometrist by trade and while I was at
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University I got quite good at mountain
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biking so I had a bit of a crack at the
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World Cup stuff
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um
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I am retiring from World Cup down or at
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the end of this year so I'm enjoying my
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uh kind of road to retirement in this
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final World Cup season
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um I own my own World Cup team
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um my brand is called One Vision we've
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been operating since 2015.
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um and when I do retire the team will
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continue and I will move into more of a
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performance coach and team manager role
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um because my other business is a
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coaching business for mountain biking
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called gravity school which is one of
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the main sponsors of the race team and
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the way we work it is we bring in Riders
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who do well on our gravity school and
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they then
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um represent the pro race team at World
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Cup Southern National so
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yeah I guess that's mean I'm not sure
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really best World Cup result
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uh best World Cup result is 18th at Lens
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hide
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um I've had a few top 10 qualities but
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obviously the Finals results are what
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really matters I've won Nationals in UK
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Portugal Germany
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um Canada so yeah it's not been too bad
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George what was your best result World
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Cup Emmy
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third third I qualified second a couple
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of times but it's all in the rain yeah
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um but yeah third one's the best like
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three times third I think or fourth
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round third excellent and I'm George
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Thompson I started racing no hang on let
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me rephrase that I started riding
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mountain bikes pre-suspension I then
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took a 17-year break from exercise and
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came back to bikes in in 2007.
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and I've known my 10th season of racing
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downhill in the veterans category here
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in the UK and I've never been on a
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Podium which probably won't surprise you
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if you uh Hey one day and Grant I would
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I would have been on the I mean moving
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up into Grand vets next year and I would
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have been on the podium at the two
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Nationals two of the three Nationals
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over here so far this season so success
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is coming it's coming it's coming who
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said success doesn't coming in when
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there's only five riders in the category
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I'm with the show then so Jack round
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three of the World Cup valdisol tell us
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a bit about how it went for you
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um yeah I mean it's always been one of
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my favorite tracks for a long time it
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was my favorite track
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um and and now I kind of it's a close
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tie with monsteran
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um so I got into it pretty easy at the
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start I mean Dan were riding together
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um did three rooms with him and then by
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the end of the Third Run I was like
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right I've had enough of that um he was
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absolutely hauling so I kind of uh
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wanted to do my fourth run on my own do
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some sections and then was gonna do a
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fifth run uh which would have been a
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full run and on the fourth run I just
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tweaked my shoulder it's just a nothing
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crash on my left side and my handlebars
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must have snapped and it just pulled my
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bad shoulder forwards and it just went
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proper Tweaky
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um and I saw one of the physios who
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actually works for for Gracie on Norco
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team um and she had a look and basically
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added a bit of an impingement in the
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ball socket joint and she ended up
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treating me throughout the weekend so
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that I could ride and taping it up
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because it was it was playing up a bit
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um
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so I actually stopped riding after the
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fourth run partly because of what
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happened to Dan which we're going to
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touch on in a minute yeah and Saturday
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night I didn't even no sorry Thursday
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night after practice I genuinely didn't
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even know if I was going to bother
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riding on Friday
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um it rained we then kind of got into
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things on Friday the three practice runs
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which went through [ __ ] average and then
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okay and then my junior came down in his
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quality
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um and he came
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um ninth again something we're going to
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talk about did a really good time and I
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looked at my mechanic and I was like
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well he's not [ __ ] beating me today
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I'm not running down forever just yet
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and his Bollywood was 10 seconds faster
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than the practice time I'd just done
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so I knew I knew I needed to level up
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but I knew that anyway
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um and I managed to have a good running
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quality came 52nd beat Owen by one point
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I think 1.8 he'll kill me if I've added
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too much on there
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um so I was dead happy and just went and
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enjoyed finals and or old finals and
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semi-final whatever you want to call it
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um didn't really have any aspirations of
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getting in the top 30 I looked at the
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time I would have needed to make up
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and thought well that's a bit much for
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this weekend so I'm just gonna kind of
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ride my bike and see where I end up and
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I was 47 I was happy with my run uh
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conditions were all over the place so
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Tire Choice was was tricky
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um and yeah solid weekend for me on a
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personal level
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cool and great result for you Junior oh
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and Rick who you've just mentioned he
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finished ninth he must have been pleased
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with that yeah absolutely I got his
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poorly wrong actually he's 11th in the
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quality which it was nice to see him
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back that up after qualifying eight and
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Leo gang
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um and we were far less excited this
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time it was more just right yep good
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look at the top top ranked Brett wanna
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if you come out of Valley solos the top
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ranked Brit yeah he is now that even
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despite not qualifying in lanzai which
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was the first one when he was still kind
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of trying to figure stuff out he's now
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the top ranked Brit and he's he's
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consistent with two races now he's been
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in there with all the factory team
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Riders so
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um
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it's one of them I I said on the podcast
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which his dad reminded me about the
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other day I I said it ended last year
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that I'd signed the fastest second year
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Junior and I think a lot of people
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probably heard me say it and thought no
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well I told you yeah you can pick him
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I'll give you that yeah in July
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um Owen is now the highest ranked
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British Junior so and he's going to go
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from strength to strength so yeah seeing
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him do that run
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um in the race and come ninth was it was
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great he felt like he had more in the
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tank
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um and we're just building nicely the
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the aim is to to see him on at least see
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him on a Podium before the end of the
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season if if not potentially push for
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push for a win so he's going from
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strength to strength and uh the nice
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thing is as well is his qualifa his his
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race time
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which he did on the same day as our
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qualifying would have put him 59th in
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the league so we now knows going into
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2024 he has the pace to qualify because
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he's just done it so so yeah big shout
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out to all when he's been working hard
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and it's so nice to see it clicking and
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we'll keep we'll keep grafting yeah bad
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news though for Dan
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uh there was a horrible like Gap
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line on a new section a track and you
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you gapped into a hole and the hole like
9:48
went up straight away on the way out and
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proper G out style and it was his fourth
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run no sorry his fifth run he was doing
9:55
a full run he'd been riding so well in
9:57
the morning everybody being kind of
9:59
coming up to me and saying he was he was
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absolutely flying and was looking like
10:02
one of the top Riders and I knew that
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because I'd been following him and he'd
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been dropping me so I knew he was going
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well
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um
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and he just got booked out of this Hall
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and ejected off the bike and just
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smashed into a tree
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um and uh yeah unfortunately he's broke
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two vertebrae on his end it was told
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three but on his NHS follow-up when he
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got armies for sure to possibly a third
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and broke his wrist
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but all of the fractures are stable so
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there's no surgery needed uh which which
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is obviously a
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um a good thing in the in the bad
10:34
situation and
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yeah I mean we I've just told him to
10:40
to take the time he needs to recover I
10:42
don't really want him to be trying to
10:44
push back to come back for Andorra or
10:46
the other two World Cups which are in
10:48
six seven and eight weeks time because
10:50
it's just too it's too soon the major
10:52
injury like that I've already told him
10:54
that from my side I'd like to see him on
10:57
the team again next year with him and
10:58
Owen leading leading the elite and a
11:01
push for our team when I stepped back
11:03
from the World Cup so is is ride secure
11:05
if he wants it and uh
11:08
we just need to say make a full recovery
11:09
because it's a serious injury and it
11:11
needs to be taken seriously so yeah it's
11:13
a real shame he was just starting to
11:14
click click again and uh but that's the
11:17
nature of the sport we know the risks we
11:18
know what we sign up for yeah well get
11:20
well soon done
11:22
yeah for sure good news to hear and uh
11:24
hope to see you back riding soon so then
11:26
you've been on from Valley saw to the
11:28
mega Avalanche and you are you had what
11:30
can only be described as a huge
11:33
it's been all over socials to talk us
11:36
through it
11:37
yeah I mean Mega avalanche's biggest
11:39
event of the year for our main sponsor
11:41
as awesome so shout out to them we were
11:43
with them all week and they look after
11:44
us so well me the team and all the rest
11:46
of the athletes so it's like it's it's
11:48
almost like a crankworks for Enduro
11:50
bikes I was thinking about it last week
11:53
but it's there's open practice you can
11:55
there's loads of different races there's
11:57
the chainless race the pump trap they're
11:59
qualifying and then there's the main
12:01
Mega and the e-bike stuff so it's a
12:03
great week
12:04
um you won the chain list didn't you
12:06
yeah yeah I've been third second and now
12:09
first so I was only planning on doing
12:11
the one run but then they'd put like a
12:12
street section in at the bottom and we
12:15
obviously hadn't practiced it and I did
12:17
my first time and I was like I I was
12:20
really bad through the street and Owen
12:22
crashed and he went again because he was
12:24
desperate to beat me and I was like I
12:26
kind of stood there 100 minutes ago
12:28
again and then my legs were just like
12:31
moving towards the chairlift and I was
12:33
like
12:34
where are you going and it was just like
12:37
my inner competitiveness I was sat in
12:39
fourth by that point and he was going
12:41
again and I was like he's going to beat
12:42
me because
12:43
that street section I was so bad so we
12:46
kind of went up again and I went six
12:48
seconds faster and I had a really nice
12:50
run to be there and it's the closest
12:51
event there to a downeris so we always
12:54
quite enjoy that one so it was nice to
12:56
uh to do well at that but yeah anyway so
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wouldn't I qualifying heat uh with a
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kind of top 10 time
13:03
um with a good battle against some of
13:05
the other Lads um in my heat
13:08
um front row for the Mega and then the
13:10
snow conditions were just like there's a
13:13
lot of snow this year same as 2021 but
13:15
it was so warm
13:16
we were
13:18
I was [ __ ] myself like properly
13:21
properly kind of like scared at the top
13:23
and the only way I can really deal with
13:25
that is kind of going into
13:27
a bit kind of kind of the zone I'm in
13:30
before download but a bit more intense
13:32
like the only way I'm gonna attack that
13:34
Glacier is if I've kind of Switched
13:36
everything else off and all I'm thinking
13:38
about is just attack don't let any of
13:40
these guys get in front of you
13:42
um
13:42
so they're delayed the start and by the
13:44
time we went about 20 past nine the snow
13:46
was quite soft and it's one of them you
13:47
just got to judge it as you get going
13:49
and I got going down the first straight
13:51
and I was in the first pack and coming
13:53
out the first corner I was about six
13:55
sixth or seventh but we're all together
13:56
and it it was clearly obvious straight
13:58
away don't go in anyone else's Rook like
14:00
it was so soft you could ride it well
14:02
but if you cross someone else's Rook you
14:04
were probably gonna like get a wobble on
14:06
or whatever
14:07
um so I got first Corner good made a
14:11
pass coming out the second corner and
14:12
got myself into fifth and then you go
14:13
down the longest straight which is what
14:15
they use for the speed test
14:17
and the other guys were kind of slightly
14:20
to my left and I was like well
14:23
I'm holding really good speed I can see
14:25
I'm catching them I'm gonna hold right
14:27
because if I do that I'm gonna get a
14:29
really nice line into the next two
14:30
corners and a couple of little blind
14:32
crests went over the first one no bother
14:34
and then as I went up and over the
14:36
second one all of a sudden I just they
14:38
were just rock sinkholes in front of me
14:41
where the snow would melted away and the
14:44
glacier was the rocky Glacier underneath
14:46
was just exposed and
14:47
I could see they were deep and I could
14:49
see you you did not want to go in but
14:52
this all happened George within like
14:53
yeah a small second place and I just I
14:57
don't even remember taking my foot out
14:58
but you can see from the video I
14:59
subconsciously dropped my right foot to
15:02
try and steer away from this hole but
15:05
straight away it's clear I'm not gonna
15:06
miss it so I just have to like jump and
15:08
you can see I just get the bike in the
15:10
air enough to miss it it was just you're
15:12
gonna crash choose how and I just
15:15
blocked him was like
15:16
like but obviously you got about 50 mile
15:19
an hour so as soon as I jumped
15:22
you you lose your contact with the snow
15:24
and when you go back in it's just going
15:25
to monitor so it yeah it just chewed the
15:28
front wheel in spat me over the bars and
15:30
the photo sequence shows I'm I'm
15:32
crashing for about 100 meters yeah
15:35
I felt my back like crunched as I went
15:37
over and yeah panicked when I got open
15:40
but thankfully I got up and could walk
15:42
and then I I think initially my thought
15:45
was like right you're right get your
15:46
bike go and I picked my bike up and I
15:48
bent my steer a tube
15:50
like we took the bike apart today and
15:52
like bars and stem and frame are fine
15:55
but the actual stereo tube of the fork
15:56
is bent like 20 degrees or whatever wow
15:59
so I picked it up and gone well that's
16:01
that over and then I realized GoPro had
16:03
gone goggle ends are gone I was like in
16:05
shock and I was like
16:06
what do I do and then I was like well
16:08
I've got no phone nobody here is going
16:10
to help me they're all racing I've just
16:12
got to get off this Glacier and I
16:14
gathered myself and like by this point a
16:16
few people had gone past but we were
16:18
that far in front it was like taking
16:20
ages for people to get down because they
16:21
had [ __ ] snow conditions
16:23
and I ended up having this hilarious
16:25
exchange with John R Jones who's a great
16:27
friend of mine we've been friends for
16:29
years by the time he got to me he
16:31
battled through this [ __ ] snow you know
16:33
he started at the back didn't he or
16:35
something no no he's just behind me
16:37
it was quality started at the back yeah
16:39
that was it but the thing is even two
16:41
rows behind us in snow like that they're
16:43
gonna be 30 40 Riders further back and
16:46
the snow they'd had was horrendous so
16:47
he'd obviously been working hard to get
16:49
down this Glacier and by the time he got
16:51
to me he couldn't breathe and I was I
16:53
didn't wish I had a rest because I'm
16:54
just like garged down I had a crash
16:56
stood up so I ended up walking off this
16:59
Glacier with my foot bike faster than
17:01
Jonah could get on
17:03
Hello I'd keep going and he was like I
17:06
can't believe oh this is so funny so
17:09
yeah just yeah got myself down and got
17:11
out of there and I saw my chiropractor
17:12
yesterday long story short I got very
17:15
lucky
17:16
um yeah and I'm starting to feel a bit
17:17
more about myself again but yeah I don't
17:20
think I'll ever do it again because like
17:22
we weren't told there were all in the
17:24
glacier it was over a blind Crest there
17:26
was nothing I could have done to avoid
17:27
it there were no warning poles or
17:29
anything and the reason I'm retiring
17:30
from World Cups is because I want to
17:32
minimize the risks in my life and move
17:34
into another discipline where there's
17:35
arguably bigger risks because it's an
17:37
unknown variable yeah I think I'll leave
17:40
well alone George you've done all right
17:42
yeah 100 like I got unlucky to find the
17:46
uh the hole but I got lucky to not be
17:48
more seriously injured so so Emmy busy a
17:51
few weeks for you in the pivot team Matt
17:54
Walker won the ews valdefasa Bernard won
17:57
crank works new with a course sweeper is
18:00
that the right word at Swiss national
18:02
champs I think so you you should tell me
18:05
the English word for it
18:12
because oh I had to like
18:15
do a lot of things like I had to like
18:17
get all the Rocks outside the line
18:20
because
18:21
it's it's a national race there's not a
18:23
lot of Marshals there and they don't
18:25
really like they're not really aware
18:28
that Boulders like that on the line is
18:30
dangerous yeah so I was just like taking
18:33
rocks off the line and stuff like that
18:36
like just before racing started yeah
18:39
um so I didn't actually had to do a full
18:41
run which I was really happy about
18:43
because it's quite a long course in
18:45
physical course so I was just like ah I
18:48
can just stop me in there we don't have
18:50
anything like that over here do we jack
18:52
doesn't it like an opening Rider type no
18:55
no but is there is this UCI races that
18:59
you don't know it's super National Zion
19:01
yeah but I think the the more more
19:04
usually happen they might send a rider
19:05
down first to check that nothing's been
19:07
come on track overnight just enough and
19:10
then a rider down at the end to check
19:12
there's nobody still left on the track I
19:15
think yes over here is that all the
19:17
marshals have to be in line of sight of
19:19
each other yeah yeah but that's the rule
19:21
but it never happens it's real for us as
19:24
well like there's not there's nothing of
19:25
Marshalls so they don't see really the
19:27
rocks and stuff and especially in
19:30
Cincinnati there's a lot of Road
19:31
Crossings like where people actually
19:33
drive through the track
19:35
so yeah like the Marshalls stopped the
19:39
cars obviously but if you can have a
19:42
rider calm down and say okay now in five
19:44
minutes this race is gonna start so let
19:47
all the all the cars through and then
19:50
once you get like word that the first
19:52
ride is starting then you just stop the
19:54
cars you know what I mean yeah yeah so
19:56
yeah that's a little bit what I had to
19:57
do but I could do all the practice which
19:59
is fun
20:00
it's
20:02
um dry and thought and and yeah the team
20:05
had an amazing run at kran course I
20:07
wasn't there for it because I had to go
20:09
back to work
20:10
um that was the last something didn't
20:12
say my introduction I worked as a
20:13
teacher part-time so I had to do some of
20:16
that it was the last week before big
20:18
summer vacation yeah but yeah
20:21
um Jacob also won the Dual slalom Jacob
20:24
Juliet yeah yeah so that was that was
20:26
sick to see because you had a little bit
20:28
of top luck the past years and also this
20:31
season in leoga had like the worst
20:33
weather ever for his race man uh for his
20:35
qualifying around sorry and our Junior
20:38
danger his brother won the Juniors as
20:40
well
20:41
so that's a really good week for for the
20:44
team and also with Matt
20:47
um winning his first uws is a long time
20:49
coming for him for sure so yeah come on
20:53
just Champs fourth in a row
20:56
um so that's what I was going to ask you
20:58
I was good I was I never got to the
21:00
actual question did I though I started
21:01
on something else oh yeah how many times
21:03
has cam won it so she's won it four and
21:05
you've won it seven
21:07
is that right yeah seven downhill yeah
21:10
and one for four cross
21:12
one for four across my first ever and
21:15
last race in that discipline and I had
21:18
two cross-country Engineers as well so
21:21
is she hunting you down
21:24
well I told her she's hunting me down
21:27
but she's gonna be well she has four now
21:30
she needs three more it means she will
21:32
be 36. right she wins every single one
21:36
so yeah she could do it she could but I
21:39
don't know she wasn't really Keen about
21:40
the idea to continue with four more
21:42
years yeah so yeah no but it was cool
21:46
because
21:47
um like there's a lot of friends that
21:49
was also racing Swiss Champs that I
21:51
usually don't really get to have like a
21:53
shot a shot at doing like a Podium or
21:56
something in walk-ups yeah
21:59
um so yeah that was a friend of mine
22:01
that I'm coaching he's
22:03
a little bit like my little brother I
22:05
would say and he he's been raising the
22:08
European World Cup so far and he was
22:10
like around 90th something and he's
22:13
totally primitive you know he's has not
22:16
much money and it's just like a really
22:18
talented writer but not really
22:19
like having all the right stuff to get
22:23
like up there he qualified for a walker
22:25
before but I was only only once and he
22:27
got second wow so Vice national champ so
22:31
is his name is it Junior Hernandez or
22:34
something like that yeah yeah Junior
22:36
Paris Hernandez yeah yeah so he
22:39
he's uh he's got second so everyone
22:42
literally everyone literally everyone
22:45
there was talked for him because he had
22:48
lots of like injuries and stuff and yeah
22:50
a little tears when I saw him on the
22:52
podium because obviously like I feel so
22:54
someone has been trying for so long even
22:56
at National level you know it's a big
22:58
achievements for some people so yeah it
23:00
was it was literally
23:01
really happy about all this and probably
23:04
more than Cami winning to be honest but
23:06
she knows that
23:14
Emmy let's start with Sasha Ernest a
23:18
first World Cup and she wins Junior by
23:20
12 seconds with a time that would have
23:22
been good enough for fourth in
23:23
illegalway who were on the track soon
23:26
after the junior women
23:27
that's an incredible performance she's
23:29
the Kiwi National Champion were you
23:31
aware of her before Val we saw have you
23:33
seen a ride
23:35
of course George I know we have every
23:38
every female rider that's like out there
23:42
no um actually when I was in in New
23:45
Zealand there was like national champs
23:47
at cornet Peak yeah and I've heard of
23:50
her and I've seen her Instagram and
23:51
stuff because of course she's like races
23:54
the same races as Jenna and Jenna's
23:57
sister as well
23:58
and um
24:00
I I didn't realize she was really she's
24:03
really tall like she knows like a little
24:05
bit like same same body type as Kami can
24:08
of like long legs and I was amazed like
24:12
I know you know we all seen a race van
24:15
nuven ride and she has like totally
24:18
opposite side and more aggressive tiny
24:20
like I was yeah and and um and Sasha
24:24
like makes everything looks easy and
24:25
even in Lanza had went before she had a
24:27
crash everybody was like who is this
24:30
and I was like yeah like I I was I mean
24:35
Jenna would tell you if you come to
24:37
European tracks it's not always easy to
24:39
adapt but she made it look like easy you
24:43
know so I wasn't surprised that she came
24:44
back and while this is on actually won
24:47
but obviously the way she did it was
24:50
was quite impressive because she's kept
24:53
getting loose in practice Jenna was
24:55
helping me film and she was filming her
24:57
for a Blog and she was like getting all
24:58
over the prison were like ah she's gonna
25:01
crash again but uh no she met two she
25:04
had two solid runs and one by a lot
25:06
which is possible on this track we all
25:08
know because it's so Technical and it
25:10
was like kind of a little bit wet as
25:11
well yeah yeah like she wasn't qualify
25:14
him by five seconds as well so it was no
25:16
fluke the the win you know
25:18
none she's being like beating
25:21
everybody's maybe a bit more Thai like
25:23
at home but they've been they've been
25:24
battling each other and to be honest
25:27
like at national champs in their
25:29
qualifying if I'm not mistaken they
25:31
didn't just blew it as well you know at
25:33
times but then Jess was like oh no
25:35
that's not gonna happen the finals but
25:37
obviously like and Jess has been
25:39
podiuming you know so it's not surprise
25:40
for me so I went and looked at a roots
25:42
and Rain
25:43
um big shout out to Seb Frost by the way
25:46
he was battling cancer at the minute so
25:48
get well soon
25:50
um yeah I went and looked at her roots
25:52
and ran and 26 races she's won 19 of
25:55
them and they were all pretty decent
25:57
level races like crank works and
25:59
Nationals
26:01
You Can Tell She's legit
26:04
oh yeah and like also the way like she's
26:07
looks so good on a bike yeah and um like
26:10
she said she's when she talks you it
26:12
seems like she just doesn't really care
26:13
she's like oh yeah I'm just riding
26:15
whatever typical kiwi you know so I
26:18
think it's a good attitude going into
26:19
Junior's not take yourself too seriously
26:21
and like yeah I've seen it before people
26:23
like get really tense for races because
26:25
they see the outcome and everything and
26:27
they're not like that at all so erase
26:30
van luvin was second with Lisa boola do
26:32
in third and Aries was actually I think
26:34
she was more thrilled for Sasha winning
26:36
and I think Sasha was like you just said
26:37
she was just pretty chill
26:40
yeah but that's the keyword Spirit as
26:42
well the love when they come overseas
26:45
Sasha probably for her first
26:48
International like or at least walkout
26:50
race
26:51
and have two cameras in front it's just
26:53
they're just really proud of it and you
26:55
could see Aries was like stoked so yeah
26:57
yeah that was cool to see so in junior
27:00
Men Christian Hauser had just gone
27:02
fastest in sector one when he had a
27:04
horrible crash in that open section just
27:06
before the Riders go back into the woods
27:08
fastest qualifier Ryan Pinkerton crashed
27:11
in sector two and lost at least four
27:13
seconds but still grabbed second which
27:15
meant bodycon took the win without
27:16
winning a sector but again another
27:18
consistent Rider who's leading the
27:21
overall now but he looks like a prospect
27:23
doesn't he
27:25
yeah definitely there's a few of those
27:26
Juniors that that really look like
27:28
they're gonna you know enter the elites
27:31
next year and settle in well so it's
27:33
Yeah Yeah you mentioned Ryan Pinkerton
27:35
in the last episode Jack you must have
27:37
been impressed with that run have you
27:39
seen it I haven't actually
27:42
um no simply because uh when the
27:44
Junior's uh are doing their race we're
27:47
we're doing our our quality it's just
27:49
dramatic it's it's enough to get over
27:51
and watch Owen so I haven't I've heard
27:53
about it yeah so you know what it was
27:55
like like 10 years ago people could
27:57
crash and still get on podiums but I
27:59
think now in any category if you
28:02
have a big error yeah you're not going
28:04
to get on the podium but so to come back
28:06
and
28:06
claw it back and lose that amount of
28:09
time and still get a second I mean he
28:10
would have won by quite a margin yeah
28:13
yeah he's got incredible role Pace you
28:15
can see that from what he's up to in
28:16
practice and if he can uh
28:19
if you can add consistency to it and
28:21
start to minimize the mistakes then then
28:23
yeah cool so Elite women can be one
28:26
qualifying but then had a big crash in
28:28
practice on Saturday morning just how
28:30
shaken it was Jeremy
28:33
ah I don't know if I can talk if I want
28:36
to talk about it and have a big drama
28:39
now she was actually she's actually so
28:42
pissed off
28:45
um well
28:46
she crashed like she broke a helmet so
28:49
wow she was just like yeah she was just
28:51
like oh [ __ ] I'm gonna have a concussion
28:54
or what's going on like I'm gonna get a
28:56
headache
28:57
um nothing like that happened but um she
29:00
had her wrist was full
29:02
and
29:03
um she was just like generally like
29:05
soapy stuff so I'll just happen to have
29:09
sent her a few picture of the track and
29:13
um there's it just had rain through the
29:15
night so it was like kind of like patchy
29:16
you know yeah some places really wet
29:19
some places were like not really wet so
29:21
I was just like Center Pitch oh yeah
29:22
look like the inside there is a bit wet
29:25
or whatever and then she just happened
29:27
to change line in that really rooty
29:30
um right hand the corner at the in the
29:33
middle of the track after like the wall
29:34
the rock wall yeah and so she switched
29:38
from the inside which is usually doing
29:40
to the outside because it was dry
29:42
on my advice and in crash there so she's
29:45
told me she was like
29:48
and I was like oh my God like obviously
29:53
it was a nightmare
29:54
and then yeah just let her be and
29:57
whatever I'm just like are you okay
29:58
she's like I don't know so it was
30:00
literally like a big crash it was not
30:02
really like just because you've so some
30:05
people have seen well the soul like it's
30:07
really steep so from there to the Berm
30:10
nuts underneath it's like almost
30:12
vertical there so you have a big drop on
30:14
if you crash straight on your head but
30:17
she got really really lucky so she felt
30:20
fine like also she wasn't sure to do
30:22
summies she was like I might just push
30:24
the gay and then she felt fine while she
30:28
was
30:29
um warming up
30:31
and then she decided to go and she got
30:33
second so it was pretty cool she said
30:36
she didn't really speak to me at all she
30:38
just like went and do not have a lot of
30:40
time you have half an hour until the
30:42
final and then she got another solid
30:45
rundown which was
30:47
not mistake free you know she did a
30:51
mistake
30:52
um right after where she crashed like
30:54
when you exit the section to go to that
30:56
big step down there's like where Gracie
30:58
crash actually in a race yeah it's like
30:59
that right-hander and she got a foot out
31:01
there so you lose a lot of like momentum
31:05
going to a flat section you know yeah so
31:07
only being two point something off the
31:10
win with that mistake I think is is a
31:13
decent run so I think she was quite
31:14
happy considering but obviously
31:18
yeah she's still looking for that win
31:19
you know so
31:21
um that was a frustrating weekend for
31:23
sure considering everything but the
31:24
outcome was good well we're talking
31:26
about Cami two quick things number one
31:28
some was she on Spikes all week
31:32
yeah yeah I know yeah they interviewed
31:34
her for schwalby after the race and to
31:37
be fair I was as well because Texas
31:40
and then obviously when it's wet
31:43
all weekend wow you were on four she has
31:47
combination I was dancing between Falls
31:50
and cuts what I did was
31:52
I was cuts and I was started on dryers
31:54
then went to cuts and then full spikes
31:57
when it ran the following morning
31:59
um came back down to cuts for quality
32:02
and then full spikes back on again
32:03
because it rained overnight did two
32:05
practice runs on cuts and it was drying
32:07
up on full sorry and then I went back to
32:10
cuts for the semis and in hindsight it
32:13
was probably ready for dry tires by then
32:15
in in my opinion but the thing is like
32:18
cut Cuts or Falls give you such
32:20
confidence when it attracts like that
32:22
like if you get on well with it and I
32:24
know why cami's doing it
32:26
um and it can work really well
32:28
sorry were you gonna say yeah I think
32:30
yeah I think she's she's done that in
32:33
the past as well in dry conditions if
32:35
I'm not mistaken like when it's really
32:37
really uh Dusty and she I think she
32:40
started on on what magic matters which
32:43
is like a mixed type of tire
32:45
and she like that it's just you want to
32:48
try and then obviously when the forecast
32:51
was coming in she was like oh yeah I'm
32:52
switching because I'm like getting used
32:53
to them which is a good thing because
32:56
you it's not okay it's gonna rain so I'm
32:58
I'm good with this style whatever
32:59
happened and if I like them on the dry
33:01
I'm gonna like it even more if it rains
33:04
um and she had she had won a lot of
33:07
races in on these tires so she's always
33:09
feels confident
33:12
um when she had them on so I can see why
33:13
all my team she will be dirty dance they
33:16
just cuts off holes yeah most of them
33:19
run we yeah when we took the dryers off
33:22
and put them on we were all like wow we
33:25
feel like we've got some paper on our
33:26
tires like because it was so loose yeah
33:28
they were just biting into the ground
33:30
that the dry Tire wasn't able to bite
33:32
into as hard so the second thing I'm
33:34
coming was following on from eleanora
33:37
Farina last season I believe her and
33:39
Monica have got an elite male Rider on
33:42
the team who's riding with them in
33:44
practice is is that correct
33:47
well yeah but he broke himself another
33:49
Soul so that's that
33:53
the end of that is it
33:56
um tell us a bit about that I mean I can
33:58
obviously well why are you doing it he
34:00
has multiple
34:01
um he has multiple roles in the team
34:03
he's actually
34:05
um a former Walker brider right from
34:07
Switzerland and he was racing a little
34:10
bit before I started
34:12
and he was very qualified and everything
34:14
he was like um good Rider especially
34:16
like technical writers so they started
34:19
to work together more for him being his
34:22
her technical coach yeah
34:24
um like working on again on basic stuff
34:27
because cam is not a Martin biker you
34:30
know since very long yeah so
34:33
um working on like calling technique and
34:35
stuff like that and maybe like really
34:37
bike skill specific stuff like that you
34:40
do Jack as well as in your coaching
34:42
school
34:43
um stuff like that with him but he's a
34:46
suspension technician as well for data
34:49
Swiss right so he works a little bit
34:53
with
34:54
um cow's mechanic as well or some like
34:58
technical suspension specific stuff and
35:01
also rides weather because they are kind
35:03
of like the same speed now he could be a
35:05
little bit faster depending on the
35:06
tracks but some of them because he does
35:09
know the tracks that well he was just
35:11
riding behind her then he can also help
35:13
second that suspension because he's
35:15
riding the track so it's like multiple
35:17
roles it's not only someone that just
35:19
writes to like help her getting over
35:22
jumps or whatever which is doesn't do
35:25
um and Pace wise okay that helps as well
35:28
but as multiple aspects to that which
35:31
could be helpful for everyone in your
35:33
team not just her yeah cool
35:36
um
35:37
Valley was second in quali but she
35:40
didn't have Cecile or Cedric Trackside I
35:43
understand so she went on on a track
35:45
walk after quality changed the lines up
35:47
and it worked she won semis and then won
35:49
finals you said by 2.9 that's sign of a
35:52
maturing Rider isn't it having the
35:54
confidence to go and do that
35:57
um well I think
35:59
I think Bali is just like now not making
36:03
mistakes anymore which is the big
36:06
difference to me and lines in my opinion
36:09
in valisol it doesn't really matter too
36:12
much what line you do you just need to
36:14
be confident and write them fast and
36:15
also try to minimize mistakes because it
36:18
costs you so much energy and then you're
36:21
just gonna make more and she just
36:23
she looked good in practice
36:26
um to be honest I think Cami looked fast
36:27
in practice which is a little bit
36:29
different than usual like usually the
36:32
years before cam always kind of took
36:34
some time to get up to speed and this
36:36
year has been the opposite she's won
36:38
if I'm not mistaken every quality or
36:40
maybe not in little gang but she was
36:42
like very fast straight away yeah and
36:44
for Bali a bit different like she took
36:46
more time to like get up to seat but
36:48
then when she's there she's just like
36:50
peaking at the right time and especially
36:53
not making mistakes so I think she might
36:55
really like that format a lot and it
36:58
suits her like mental preparation better
37:02
so she can just like grow and stuff and
37:04
she doesn't have the pressure to perform
37:06
like in one run she can like take
37:08
confidence run after run
37:10
but yeah for sure excuse me maturing and
37:12
she we all know she's very talented on a
37:14
bike and if she would start to make no
37:17
mistakes then it would be hard to beat
37:19
her and that's the case right now so
37:21
yeah it's it's she's been consistent so
37:24
far we'll see how it keeps going on
37:27
so Jess blew it was gloveless and she
37:29
was green until the little store
37:32
um but then she finished in third Marine
37:33
was fourth just not point two back on
37:35
Jess and Nina was fifth again so fifth
37:39
again just 0.2 back on the rain very
37:42
tight amongst those three but for the
37:44
overall is it a two horse race this
37:46
season now is it came in Valley
37:49
it wasn'tified it seems that way but we
37:52
forgot about someone for at least for
37:54
worlds is Rachel yeah yeah
37:57
um
37:58
we'll get on to that a bit later on but
38:00
I think yeah no I think for the overall
38:03
for now it looks that way but like you
38:05
said just
38:06
had a mistake and I think she was close
38:09
and qualifying and in sammies as well
38:13
and Marine not forget she's getting back
38:16
to where she was
38:18
um she needs some more comfort and she's
38:20
not really feeling like herself just yet
38:23
but she might come to that
38:25
and Nina obviously had a knee that's
38:27
annoyed her and she is thinking World
38:30
Champs I think in her head right now but
38:33
when that's passed she might like get up
38:36
there with with both of them so it would
38:39
be interesting to see because World
38:40
Champs is such like in the middle of the
38:42
Season how that impacts everything was
38:45
definitely
38:46
um two groups right now but I think it
38:48
would mix it up like it could mixed up
38:50
at the end of the season for sure yeah
38:52
and I wanted to ask you about Lisa
38:54
Bauman a fellow Swiss Rider fifth in
38:57
quality seventh in semi eighth in finals
38:59
she's having a great season
39:01
yeah she's a young Rider comes from
39:04
cross country originally and then Enduro
39:08
um she still like has the cross-country
39:11
Enduro body type so she's struggling
39:13
sometimes on the longer tracks but she's
39:17
very good at from the endurance side and
39:19
cross country side as well on technical
39:20
tracks uh less by parking so yeah she
39:24
did nine Silent Valley so last year yeah
39:27
so it's not supposed to do well again
39:30
this year the fifth like it was it was
39:32
impressive to see and and also her she's
39:35
obviously on that team on Cecil's team I
39:38
don't know why but people tend to like
39:41
push but then crash also a lot so Lisa
39:44
had a couple of crashes in the past and
39:46
couldn't like qualify because of it
39:48
but yeah now she's um confirming that
39:51
she's um definitely number two Swiss
39:53
writer and she's not that far off so
39:54
that's cool to see as well
39:56
talking of crashes let's move on to the
39:58
men's race because there are some
39:59
spectacular ones philat will look to be
40:02
riding well but then he went over the
40:03
top of a berm Rooney crashed into a tree
40:06
in Sammy's Charlie Hatton was lucky not
40:08
to break his leg with a with a nasty
40:10
crash but if there was an award it would
40:13
undoubtedly have gone to jailbread and
40:15
who blew his hands off the bars and
40:16
quite possibly the worst place you'd
40:18
ever want to blow your hands off the
40:19
bars coming off the ski jump at the end
40:20
he somehow served it in the sense that
40:23
he didn't die but he did go over the top
40:25
of the Berlin crash out can you think of
40:27
a worse place to lose your bars yet
40:29
yeah it's horrible in this he did really
40:32
well to not have a horrible accident and
40:34
yeah I mean if it happened somewhere in
40:36
the trees with obstacles everywhere
40:38
it would have probably been worse
40:40
because he wouldn't have had the time to
40:42
save it and he didn't he did a great job
40:44
of saving it
40:45
um you know fair play to him
40:48
um I didn't realize what happened at
40:49
first
40:51
and then it was only on social media
40:53
later on that I
40:55
I saw what had happened and I was like
40:57
holy [ __ ]
40:59
and just thinking about what you're
41:01
saying about the crashes like
41:03
we were watching semis and like
41:06
I was down the bottom and
41:08
there was more crashes than usual and
41:10
like
41:11
it has to be the format like because
41:14
when you think about it there's off the
41:16
top here there's four groups of riders
41:18
up there for the semi-final there's
41:21
the group that I was in involved us all
41:23
which is going to be a very small group
41:25
maybe only one to five Riders who are at
41:29
peace with the fact they're probably not
41:30
going to be top 30. and they're going to
41:32
roll down
41:33
dude everyone be happy with their time
41:35
job done you've then got a very
41:39
dangerous group of riders where they're
41:42
probably not going to get top 30. well
41:44
they're going [ __ ] try
41:46
so they're going to be very very erratic
41:50
I've got a group that probably should
41:53
make top 30 in can if they keep their
41:55
heads and then you've got the subgroup
41:58
in there of the ones that do keep their
41:59
heads and the ones that don't
42:02
then you've got the final group of your
42:04
Lloyd brunies your Troy Brosnan's your
42:06
Tebow deprellas who all they have to do
42:08
is stand a bike and they're going to be
42:09
top 30. and I think it has to just be
42:12
the format
42:13
causing this crazy area in the middle of
42:16
like
42:16
30 to 40 Riders were all going oh [ __ ]
42:20
I really want to do the next one yeah
42:23
and then kind of losing their cool a
42:24
little bit so we're seeing more crashes
42:27
than we used to and
42:28
it might be entertaining but I don't
42:30
think it's a good thing because it's
42:31
putting it Riders at risk yeah
42:35
one of your guys Emmy had probably the
42:38
best serve I've ever seen Jacob do it
42:42
about that yeah yeah asking me these
42:47
Bowl balls are still intact because
42:49
he's bouncing the sea no
42:52
um is he's had some bad luck man like
42:55
already like I was saying before in Leo
42:58
gang he reigned and he was just like
43:01
they had that Interruption he was like
43:03
third Rider after the Reign and now
43:06
again he had like the worst condition
43:08
ever in valisol for
43:12
so he was a bit annoying he still
43:15
galloped like decent result because he
43:16
got 18th in Summit so it was like really
43:19
really good and then he's riding like
43:22
he's taking some confidence but
43:23
obviously he was
43:26
um so Bernard or these guys that started
43:28
before had a big Advantage comparison to
43:31
like the mid-pack guys before it dried
43:33
again so but yeah I'm really proud of
43:36
Jacob like keeping it upright in his
43:39
conditions twice yeah and yeah dead but
43:42
it came really hot in there and it was
43:44
probably one of the most slippery part
43:46
of the track was like really hard packed
43:48
but yeah that was good to watch for sure
43:50
so tell us about Bernard then first two
43:52
World Cups probably not where he wants
43:54
to be but then he goes and wins crank
43:56
Works got a bit lucky with the weather
43:58
in Valley Salt nearly won it was he
44:01
pissed when Troy beat his time
44:03
obviously he's always pissed when he's
44:06
getting beaten he wants to win
44:08
everything
44:10
um no but like
44:12
yeah would you wanted to win it with the
44:14
Asterix always there though oh yeah
44:17
obviously he he just wouldn't care I
44:20
mean he was probably unlucky a couple of
44:22
times like everyone else you know like
44:25
in in legit
44:26
back in like a few years back when the
44:29
pirella won he was like
44:32
best wet Rider like you got to see
44:34
extension everybody else got like smoked
44:37
so he was just like he's always good
44:39
when it's kind of like hard makes like
44:41
conditions but he got lucky there it was
44:44
still wet you could see like his plate
44:46
and stuff but obviously it was not as
44:47
weird as for when Jacob went and stuck
44:51
and all these guys and yeah of course
44:54
like when you see people then you
44:56
started believing yourself you said oh
44:58
maybe I'm gonna win it because you see
44:59
that it's not improving but then the
45:01
rain stopped and invalid solid doesn't
45:03
get too long until the track starts
45:06
drying out again yeah you know so yeah I
45:09
think you can he can be pleased with his
45:11
result obviously he always wants more
45:12
and that's what's making like a great
45:14
athlete but
45:16
um I think it's his best result so far
45:18
and he needs to take that so Bernard's
45:21
in the hot seat with seven Riders to go
45:23
benoir and Danny have just pushed him
45:25
really close so he sense burner's time
45:27
isn't going to hold Troy beats it and
45:30
then Tebow beats it and we need to chat
45:32
about
45:32
because he won sector one he takes his
45:36
hands off the on the bridge to shake
45:38
them out then he wins sector three and
45:40
crosses the line with his eyes on stalks
45:42
we've got the deprella of 21 back
45:44
haven't we yeah we got to give him a
45:47
massive shout out the most entertaining
45:49
run on the weekend like we were at the
45:51
bottom on tent hooks I I said to my guys
45:53
I was like Egon crash like
45:58
shout out t-ball like amazing
46:01
performance and I I I'd been watching
46:04
you in practice and there was just so
46:06
much aggression you can see so
46:08
frustrated that he's not back to where
46:09
he was and
46:11
um I think that run is exactly what he
46:13
needed because I it I reckon he'll relax
46:15
now and I did speak to him after the
46:17
race you could tell he was quite calm he
46:20
was like yeah I feel I'm pleased I was
46:22
there and I it was almost like a weight
46:24
off his shoulders so I think the rest of
46:27
his season is going to be quite
46:27
interesting Jackson was the only other
46:30
Rider to win a sector and he made a huge
46:32
mistake out of the gate and then
46:34
clearing sectors two four and five jack
46:36
you picked it I did and we all weekend I
46:40
just said I was like he's gonna win like
46:43
it was just like he's like the Energizer
46:47
Bunny who's who's just like got wild and
46:50
like dude are we in like an almost
46:53
coming into like in I was thinking about
46:54
this today like a new age of downhill in
46:57
the sense that
46:58
there was a big change when G started
47:01
came in well that was before my time
47:03
kind of really but when G brought
47:06
strength
47:07
started training properly and then
47:09
that's been carried on with Guinea yeah
47:11
and then it's gone on from gwinnie to
47:14
Emery and loik kind of yeah both strong
47:18
solid and you look around and there's a
47:21
lot of riders like that now you look at
47:22
Matt Walker people like that then you
47:25
look at Jackson and Jordan
47:26
and they don't look like that you know
47:28
they're still eight times
47:30
will they go like that though because
47:33
they see I was watching Jackson's run
47:35
and it looked like he was getting on
47:37
lines that other people couldn't get on
47:38
because he was just so light and just
47:40
able to yeah himself around yeah yeah I
47:43
think I think you're right there's
47:44
certainly going to be an element of that
47:46
and I was talking Tara Malloy about it
47:47
at the nagar and we were talking about
47:48
Ronan Dunn and obviously shout out to
47:51
Ronan who's also having an incredible
47:52
season it's nice to see him kind of
47:54
stepping up and being consistent at that
47:56
level but Harry was saying like ruining
47:58
this trail bikes like it's new you don't
48:00
use it because these guys they ride
48:03
downhill
48:05
almost daily
48:07
all that and I remember when I first
48:10
started and I remember you chat with
48:12
like Joe Smith and I can't remember you
48:15
know whoever else in the winter and
48:17
there'd be they'd be over it you'd
48:19
always hear by August to be over it
48:21
there's none of that [ __ ] now these guys
48:24
are doing their hobby at the highest
48:26
level and all they want to do is ride
48:27
downhill so then like Jordan Williams
48:29
don't go in the gym
48:31
like apparently they're starting to
48:33
introduce it into his program now
48:35
whatever the hell that means but they
48:38
just ride bikes and the skill level that
48:42
these guys have got compared with was
48:44
all [ __ ] and the rest of them like it
48:47
just kind of looks like it's going to be
48:48
a little bit hard to compete with
48:51
um because they're just so comfortable
48:52
on their bikes and like you said they're
48:54
just able to ride lines and move around
48:56
almost as if they're in like a a
48:58
different gravitational field or
48:59
something it's mad to watch Trackside it
49:02
really is so I've had a message from
49:04
Steve Jordan Williams's dad and if you
49:06
pick Jackson again I don't think you two
49:08
are going to be friends
49:10
my face halfway through Jordan's run
49:13
Jordan was down on the splits he come
49:16
over and bollocked me and then went back
49:17
to getting stressed
49:20
um but yeah I mean
49:23
it's going to be an interesting season
49:24
and something I think will happen this
49:26
year is I don't think the same person
49:29
will win more than one World Cup right I
49:31
think we will have seven different uh
49:33
eight different winners
49:35
so
49:36
Jordan one mistake then crashed into the
49:38
net in I saw him at Clan goklin last
49:40
weekend and he got his GoPro caught in
49:42
the netting
49:43
and uh I think that was restricting him
49:46
getting out was he riding last week he
49:49
did practice on his e-bike his bikes
49:51
weren't there so he did practice on his
49:54
e-bike without a battery I wonder why
49:56
but he did he didn't mess but he's still
49:58
pretty buzzing with the start to the
49:59
season you know you've got to be You've
50:02
Won you won the third the opening World
50:03
Cup which was your first Elite World Cup
50:05
second back of the next one was it was
50:08
it a second exactly and then last
50:09
weekend he was third at the fourth split
50:11
so he like he's right there and and
50:15
that's mint so it's not gonna be easy
50:18
it's not supposed to be easy like
50:20
it's elite level sport the highest level
50:22
so if it was easy you wouldn't bother
50:24
with you no finals on the podium again
50:27
that's every round this season do you
50:29
think he'll win one before The Season's
50:31
out yep he's he's in my eight for sure
50:34
absolutely yeah and I think I'd put
50:36
money on him winning the overall
50:38
you reckon yeah yeah for sure he's he's
50:41
um he's a container for the overall as
50:43
well I think because he's consistent
50:44
just waiting for everything to align to
50:48
get that win but also because like I
50:50
think he's right like is writing
50:53
better than usual beginning of the
50:55
season it's just didn't have that run
50:57
for finals yet but I think he's really
50:59
on form so we'll see maybe he will get
51:02
his seventh title that'll be that won't
51:04
be a surprise you know another another
51:08
Podium for Loris after winning the semi
51:10
again consistent Rider who seems to to
51:13
be taking advantage of the semi-final
51:15
format but he'll be wanting more won't
51:17
he I think he he'll be on your list of
51:18
the eight winners Jack absolutely yeah
51:21
definitely but I don't think he's going
51:22
to win the next one
51:24
will Champs
51:26
no I excluding World Champs is going to
51:29
win the next World Cup I've got a
51:30
different different guy for that zandora
51:32
is that the next World Cup yeah okay
51:35
are you gonna tell us are you yeah the
51:38
perella's Gonna Come Out Swinging
51:40
home World Cup for common style he's
51:42
coming off the back of that last one my
51:44
money's on on the next World Cup cool
51:47
and I I must issue a massive apology to
51:50
Luke Rooney my predictions are a curse
51:52
16th in quality 50 13 semi 14th in
51:55
finals he just never seems to get going
51:57
really did he
51:59
no
52:01
I don't know this is weird but in
52:03
practice it looks so good like I was
52:06
there like since the beginning of season
52:08
it never looked that good to me in
52:10
practice like even like sometimes in
52:12
Snowshoe he was like struggling so hard
52:15
to write in practice and then he just
52:16
did so well in the race and I don't know
52:19
why he just like I don't know maybe
52:21
you're really cursing in person because
52:24
because he's he's just don't form like
52:26
he just won French Championship that's
52:28
not easy to ask and he looks so good
52:31
there as well so he it's gonna come for
52:33
him for sure so we're running out of
52:36
time because we're gonna have Gracie
52:37
waiting in a minute but just two quick
52:39
things I wanted to ask you about firstly
52:41
how did the Riders get on with semi and
52:43
Final on on a much more physical track
52:46
were there any complaints about it or I
52:49
think I've said my feelings of and I
52:50
still go on Emmy what do you think
52:53
um well
52:54
I think this makes the emotion people
52:57
sometimes like it and I don't think well
52:59
this Soleil was like people didn't say
53:03
it was like so much worse than the other
53:05
ones it's more so maybe the focus side
53:08
of things that sometimes a little bit
53:09
hard more than a physical it's just like
53:12
trying to like get into the zone for
53:14
your run and get really focused and then
53:16
you do it and then you have to go again
53:18
yeah right after so that's some things
53:22
like Cami said she's like find it really
53:25
hard to do because she find it kind of
53:28
hard to get in that zone that she can
53:30
perform that well so now it's kind of
53:32
normalizing oh yeah we're just gonna do
53:34
restaurant so yeah that's more so the
53:37
problem
53:37
um physical obviously it's it's hard
53:40
but then you can also ride a little bit
53:42
within your limit and yeah
53:47
is
53:49
um the physical side of it didn't didn't
53:50
force me at all because like we trained
53:53
for it so that was just what it was I
53:55
was I was fine physically but because of
53:58
the change in weather and the way they
54:00
cram everything into that that day where
54:02
we have practice semis and vinyls the
54:05
track conditions have changed and were
54:06
changing so we only had time for two
54:09
practice runs in the morning and on that
54:12
second practice run I'd stopped in one
54:15
spot to just look at some lines and
54:16
start thinking about what am I doing
54:18
about tires going into the semi's run I
54:20
was chatting with Laurie I looked at my
54:22
watch I was like [ __ ] my run is in 56
54:25
minutes
54:27
I'm still on track I need to go and see
54:29
my mechanic change Wheels decide what
54:31
tires we're going to use get back to the
54:33
top go through my process and be in the
54:35
start gate I genuinely wasn't ready I'd
54:38
done quality looked at the time got to
54:40
30th and was like
54:42
it's four seconds if I have a good
54:44
morning I can do that and I literally
54:46
finished that second practice room and I
54:48
was like no chance like I just don't
54:50
feel ready to put a rundown so
54:53
whereas if we'd have longer to practice
54:55
and just the One race run I would have
54:57
felt way more prepared to put down my
55:00
absolute best so my semi-finals wasn't
55:02
my absolute best because it just wasn't
55:04
time
55:05
I'll ask the second part after we've
55:07
spoken with Grace but we'll be back with
55:10
Gracie hemstry after these messages I am
55:12
delighted to Welcome to the podcast the
55:14
18 year old first year Elite who's
55:16
making huge waves in the elite women's
55:18
category Gracie hamstreet hello
55:21
hey
55:23
nice to meet you how are you doing good
55:25
how are you
55:26
yeah very well thank you yeah very well
55:28
awesome here in sunny in a nice sunny
55:31
evening in England it doesn't look quite
55:34
so nice where you are there
55:36
yeah it's pretty sunny
55:38
nice oh it is actually nice yeah so tell
55:41
us tell us a bit about where in the
55:42
world you are right now
55:44
um yeah I'm in for any BC right now
55:47
um we just got here like two minutes ago
55:50
perfect timing but um yeah it's our
55:53
Nationals this weekend so yeah and I
55:55
believe you're setting up a new bike for
55:57
worlds is that a new new bike as in a
56:01
prototype or is it a fresh version of of
56:04
what you've been riding this season
56:05
uh it's a new new bike so oh yeah so
56:09
that's fresh so it doesn't need to kill
56:12
a downhill bike
56:13
yeah the engineers have been working on
56:15
it for like two years now I think right
56:18
and yeah I finally hopped on it so and
56:20
does it look different different to the
56:22
one you've been riding vastly different
56:24
yeah yeah totally different yeah
56:27
I pivot yep
56:31
all right cool so the first thing I need
56:33
to ask you about and and uh I've spent
56:36
the best part of a decade trying to get
56:39
the nickname G-Force established for
56:41
myself but but no one was having it yeah
56:45
like I said even in the DJ days no I
56:48
couldn't even get it then but no one was
56:50
having it and I saw it on your helmet of
56:52
Aldi solo I was like no she can't oh
56:54
yeah
56:56
how did you how did that nickname come
56:59
about uh sometime last year I don't know
57:02
my name my nickname was like G hammy
57:05
because my last name's Sam street but
57:07
then yeah I don't know just came about
57:09
to do this is yours is yours g-race yeah
57:13
I'm served I thought it was G4 sorry
57:18
I can still be G-Force
57:25
the kind of person who could get like
57:27
going for you George
57:33
all right Gracie
57:35
um
57:36
so the good thing or the lovely thing
57:38
about having young people on the podcast
57:42
um is that well obviously it's a first
57:45
for you so maybe there's a story that no
57:48
one's heard and uh yeah that's that's
57:50
pretty cool to have you
57:52
um so you grew up in BC and you got your
57:54
first bike at the age of nine is that is
57:57
that correct
57:58
oh mountain bike I was riding at like
58:00
three but yeah
58:05
yeah and um so your dad and also your
58:09
granddad that I see a lot at the races
58:11
like we're like having a big role at the
58:14
coolest gravity Parks is that correct
58:16
yeah my dad and then the coastal crew
58:19
boys and then yeah
58:21
yeah
58:23
so you live pretty close here yeah did
58:25
your dad set cause Gravity Park up was
58:27
he one of the people who set it up in
58:29
the first place yeah yeah he was like
58:32
the main Builder well there was a lot
58:34
involved a lot of people involved but
58:36
yeah he was the main guy and then like
58:38
Curtis Robinson and Joe and Duncan
58:41
and yeah
58:42
lots more people that when was that how
58:45
long how long kind of how old were you
58:47
when that was happening
58:49
uh Amazon
58:50
eight when the building started
58:52
happening and then nine in 2014 it
58:54
opened
58:56
yeah sorry Emily I'm 2014 you were nine
59:00
[Laughter]
59:03
it's funny
59:05
yes
59:07
you want to talk about that this is
59:10
definitely the bad thing about you
59:12
having young people on the show to
59:13
realize how old you are
59:16
yeah
59:17
um so yeah we talk about course Gravity
59:19
Park um how often do you go right there
59:22
I think I not really able to do that
59:24
because I see your amazing post about it
59:26
but I guess you go there pretty often
59:28
hey
59:29
pretty much every day yeah
59:32
it's in my backyard so mine as well
59:37
um tell us a bit about growing up there
59:40
like around this type of like riding uh
59:43
because obviously the whiskers in Canada
59:45
has produced some incredible riders in
59:47
the recent years like obviously
59:49
um Steve Smith's spinach Brandon seminar
59:52
Mark Wallace of good Jacksonville
59:53
telling us about growing up in that area
59:58
yeah it was pretty amazing like yeah
1:00:01
we've traveled all around the world but
1:00:02
my favorite place is home because yeah
1:00:05
just all the riding is yeah just amazing
1:00:08
and all the people are awesome so yeah
1:00:11
it was great I looked up to
1:00:14
pretty much everyone I lived around and
1:00:16
like Curtis and Brandon obviously and
1:00:19
Finn and yeah it's just awesome to be
1:00:21
able to ride with them yeah it's great
1:00:23
can I can I ask who is yeah who is the
1:00:26
who is your favorite rider that's all I
1:00:28
wanted to know
1:00:30
Brandon definitely yeah he's like my
1:00:33
biggest Idol he's pretty safe
1:00:36
oh cool cool so you started
1:00:39
um racing 2015 at the kids race of
1:00:43
crackers is that correct yeah
1:00:47
so that was my first was it like during
1:00:49
during Whistler or is that yeah yeah it
1:00:53
was a beeline race
1:00:58
so how old were you there we were 10 10
1:01:01
years old I think 10 yeah 10 or 11. yeah
1:01:05
is there like like a age range you're
1:01:08
allowed to compete there or is it like
1:01:10
open for pretty much everyone that can
1:01:11
go down be a line
1:01:14
um oh my God there's like five-year-olds
1:01:16
racing it
1:01:20
like so young to like
1:01:23
as old 15 I think yeah pretty much
1:01:26
pretty much
1:01:29
so yeah the first in the first edition
1:01:32
you participate you came six and then
1:01:34
the following year you you won it is
1:01:37
that so yeah yeah I think so remember
1:01:39
just a long time ago but yeah yeah I
1:01:41
guess you're tense so it's like a long
1:01:43
time ago but um so did you when you did
1:01:47
you remember that at all did you like go
1:01:49
there and got six and you're like oh
1:01:51
that's that's cool but I want to win it
1:01:53
next year or is there already were you
1:01:55
already quite competitive back then
1:01:59
but uh yeah definitely I was like oh man
1:02:02
I got a one next year so we're just on
1:02:05
my bike basically every day then just
1:02:07
having fun ended up going well
1:02:10
cool so 2018 you started racing BC cups
1:02:15
and I'm looking at the results and you
1:02:17
won your first race but you were the
1:02:19
only rider in the 13 to 16 cat
1:02:21
aggressive I went and looked at how you
1:02:23
would have done in the other categories
1:02:24
and 17 to 29 yeah you've won that 30
1:02:28
plus yeah you'd have won that and then
1:02:30
there were some other categories some
1:02:32
UCI categories 19 to 29 and 30 plus yeah
1:02:35
you'd have won both of us in fact you
1:02:37
would have finished third in Elite and I
1:02:39
think you were 14 or 15 at the time
1:02:42
yeah yeah I think so I didn't actually
1:02:45
know that that's crazy so were you
1:02:48
conscious of how well you were doing
1:02:50
not really I don't think so I was just
1:02:53
having fun and
1:02:55
yeah there's no one in my category so I
1:02:57
was just kind of writing by myself but
1:02:58
yeah it was fun that kind of makes it
1:03:01
even more incredible because you've not
1:03:02
got anyone to push you so you're just
1:03:04
going now doing your thing
1:03:07
yeah totally I was just yeah writing on
1:03:11
that line of thought George I'd I hope
1:03:13
you've not written it into the podcast
1:03:14
and I'm going to ruin a later question
1:03:16
but Grace did you have any brothers or
1:03:17
sisters or
1:03:19
yeah another brother and a sister okay
1:03:21
my brother
1:03:22
yeah my brother wrote a lot when he was
1:03:24
younger and then yeah yeah yeah he wrote
1:03:27
at Whistler a lot and my dad would drive
1:03:29
in there like all the time and that's
1:03:31
where the kind of the idea of Coast
1:03:33
gravity part came about because they're
1:03:34
like oh man so it's always on the coast
1:03:36
like this so yeah yeah yeah so how old
1:03:39
are they
1:03:40
my brother's 25 and my sister's 21. okay
1:03:45
and did your sister ride as well no no
1:03:48
okay
1:03:50
any kind of riding you were doing was
1:03:52
with the family was with your dad and
1:03:54
your brother I guess so that I guess
1:03:56
that must have helped quite a bit when
1:03:57
you were younger yeah totally yeah and I
1:04:00
just grew up with like all the coastal
1:04:02
crew boys and everything so yeah they're
1:04:04
practically family as well
1:04:08
I went and looked on the map to find out
1:04:11
where course gravity bike part was
1:04:12
because I knew it was like you know it
1:04:13
was on the west coast I knew it was near
1:04:15
Vancouver somewhere and it
1:04:18
I was like oh I wonder how far it is
1:04:20
from Whistler and on the map it didn't
1:04:22
look that far but then I did a like
1:04:24
Google Maps from one to the other and it
1:04:25
was like nine hours five minutes but it
1:04:27
did seem to root all the way through
1:04:28
Vancouver and stuff like that so how
1:04:31
how far apart are they actually is it
1:04:33
commutable yeah do you go through
1:04:36
yeah yeah yeah so from like where I live
1:04:39
you have to take a ferry to the mainland
1:04:42
like they're connected but it's pretty
1:04:45
weird
1:04:46
um so yeah you take a ferry and then
1:04:48
it's like
1:04:49
three hour drive to Whistler so it's not
1:04:51
too bad right so you could do that in a
1:04:53
day and come back yeah totally I did
1:04:56
that a lot
1:04:58
yeah okay so sticking with uh moving
1:05:02
through your kind of timeline and going
1:05:03
to 2019 uh you were national champ for
1:05:06
the first time
1:05:07
um tell us a little bit about that
1:05:09
weekend because it sounds like that was
1:05:10
quite a close race with Emmy land
1:05:12
George's put there that you were you won
1:05:14
by 0.17
1:05:16
yeah yeah
1:05:18
um yeah when we're like racing BC cops
1:05:21
and everything me and Emmy really
1:05:22
battled it out for a while but um yeah
1:05:24
she's in general now but
1:05:26
yeah that was cool it was awesome to win
1:05:29
that but yeah I didn't really get to
1:05:31
race with the sleep on at all because I
1:05:33
was couldn't because I was so young but
1:05:35
um yeah no it was awesome
1:05:38
okay cool and then you also went to
1:05:40
crankworks you did the garbanzo finished
1:05:42
fourth in the 13 to 18 category I've
1:05:45
done that rest myself a few times how
1:05:46
did you get on for that long
1:05:48
it's not not too well I was faceless I
1:05:52
was sitting down for quite a lot of it
1:05:54
because I was so dead
1:05:56
um yeah people are good at that that's
1:05:59
that's hardcore I can say
1:06:02
yeah so fourth in the Garbo second in
1:06:04
the ADH
1:06:06
um first in the Canadian open downhill
1:06:08
that wasn't a bad week at all
1:06:10
um happy with that hanging lesson
1:06:13
yeah yeah I stopped it's very happy
1:06:16
okay and then obviously at the start of
1:06:19
2020 you'd headed out to uh Rotorua for
1:06:22
crank works and covered hit
1:06:24
um how did you at that age and Keen to
1:06:27
get on with your racing career how did
1:06:28
you cope with the lockdown
1:06:31
um yeah so we're in Rotorua and then we
1:06:33
flew out to like back home and then
1:06:36
like the air everything shut down like
1:06:39
the day we got home so it was pretty
1:06:40
crazy we just got home in time and then
1:06:43
yeah I just kept riding and
1:06:46
yeah just stuck at home at the bike park
1:06:49
and yeah it wasn't too bad because where
1:06:52
I live it's like
1:06:53
pretty quiet and remote but yeah there's
1:06:56
worse places to be stuck I guess
1:06:57
definitely yeah okay so were you quite
1:07:00
frustrated through that time and were
1:07:02
you kind of desperate to get back to
1:07:04
compete you know or were you kind of
1:07:06
quite at peace with oh well I can stay
1:07:08
home and ride and what kind of yeah I
1:07:11
was just I was just kind of cruising I
1:07:13
wasn't good like I wasn't in
1:07:15
two competitive then but um okay yeah
1:07:18
what's happened
1:07:20
were you still in school at this point
1:07:23
yeah yeah
1:07:24
so when did when did you actually finish
1:07:26
school
1:07:27
uh last year at the big in January last
1:07:30
year in January yeah
1:07:32
wow
1:07:35
I went online and then yeah I graduated
1:07:39
half the semester early so I could
1:07:41
finish World Cups so that was helpful
1:07:43
Phil you have a career path ahead of you
1:07:45
don't you yeah yeah
1:07:51
so in 2021 when things got going again
1:07:53
first year Junior but you didn't have a
1:07:55
factory deal at that time and you only
1:07:57
came over and raced maribor World Champs
1:08:00
um of all the soul and lenza Hyde
1:08:02
um what what were your first impressions
1:08:04
of the world World Cup circuit during
1:08:06
2021
1:08:07
yeah first impression well that was
1:08:10
pretty terrified because
1:08:12
um going to Europe but um
1:08:15
yeah Marvel I like went full out in my
1:08:20
quality and got first and I was like oh
1:08:22
my God what like I I had no idea and
1:08:24
then yeah I got
1:08:26
yeah the finals wasn't very good because
1:08:28
they all smoked me like PB and easy
1:08:30
Isabella and
1:08:32
but yeah I know it was amazing I loved
1:08:35
it it was a good experience what bike
1:08:37
were you riding then
1:08:39
I was on a common style Supreme okay
1:08:43
can I just ask what what terrified you
1:08:46
kind of about it was it the tracks or
1:08:48
was it just the whole aspect of God
1:08:51
these are my heroes to kind of oh my God
1:08:54
I'm racing against which one of those
1:08:56
two was it
1:08:58
um yeah the tracks and then
1:09:00
um just the whole scene like seeing
1:09:02
Miriam and everyone that I looked up to
1:09:05
like my whole life is like oh my God I'm
1:09:07
here it was crazy
1:09:10
and how does it feel now to be like in
1:09:12
Italy alongside them
1:09:14
it's still kinda
1:09:16
I don't know it's hard to believe yeah
1:09:19
it's insane
1:09:22
okay so as you mentioned you qualified
1:09:24
first in maribor finished fifth did you
1:09:26
did you have a crash or any issues in
1:09:28
that run or was it like you just said
1:09:30
did you just kind of get beat and you
1:09:31
were like whoa okay yeah I got smiled to
1:09:34
France
1:09:37
yeah so then on to world's qualified
1:09:40
second and finish the bronze medal
1:09:44
um was that was that like
1:09:46
how did you feel obviously that's a big
1:09:48
achievement getting the
1:09:50
uh yeah it was it was awesome I
1:09:52
definitely wasn't expecting it like
1:09:54
that's like my favorite track I think
1:09:56
but you know I just loved it and I had
1:09:59
fun it ended up going well yeah
1:10:02
okay and then after that it was on to
1:10:05
Leo gang where again another group
1:10:07
qualify with third and you you did one
1:10:10
better in the finals with the second
1:10:12
did you return home like super happy
1:10:14
after those races what was the feeling
1:10:16
when you when you headed back at the end
1:10:18
of the season yeah totally I was really
1:10:20
happy just like completing three races
1:10:22
and
1:10:23
fairly well and then yeah I knew I was
1:10:26
gonna do second year Junior and I was
1:10:28
very I was motivated that's for sure
1:10:31
yeah
1:10:32
when you when you were racing as a
1:10:34
privateer in 2021 did you kind of feel a
1:10:37
lot of pressure to produce some results
1:10:39
to try and get some sponsorship for the
1:10:40
following year or or were you was that
1:10:43
not a factor
1:10:45
I think I was thinking about
1:10:48
yeah opportunities can I win yeah it was
1:10:52
awesome yeah for sure yeah
1:10:55
so Gracie on 2022
1:10:58
um you do like you said opportunity
1:10:59
comes and then you stand with noko
1:11:03
um
1:11:03
you actually became the first Canadian
1:11:05
Junior woman to win World Cup so you won
1:11:08
your first World Cup in Lords
1:11:10
um I actually remember that because I
1:11:12
obviously I was coaching Jenna Hastings
1:11:15
and I remember
1:11:17
um you were there in front of barrier
1:11:19
kind of like doing your warm-up and
1:11:21
stuff and it was Jenna's also's first
1:11:23
ever World Cup so she was terrified
1:11:25
probably the same as you were tariff by
1:11:27
the year before
1:11:28
and obviously Lord Lord is no joke but
1:11:32
you you won that by six second and a
1:11:35
time that would have been good for sixth
1:11:37
night and
1:11:39
[Music]
1:11:39
um
1:11:40
I everybody would probably remember the
1:11:43
sick tabletop they did on the finished
1:11:45
Finish Line jump because obviously it's
1:11:47
not enough to win by six seconds you
1:11:49
need to like putting more Style on the
1:11:51
finished gender any other writer male or
1:11:53
female out there I was pretty impressive
1:11:56
let me tell you nobody remembers that
1:11:59
Kenny was like oh who's this
1:12:03
she remembers the table she was like
1:12:05
getting sick of me showing her that she
1:12:07
was like who's this yeah you know and
1:12:10
then um yeah so tell us a bit about how
1:12:13
you found Lords because it's a tough
1:12:15
track an European track like the dirt is
1:12:18
not like at home like and everyone
1:12:20
struggled because it was like top this
1:12:23
week so tell us about Lords and how it
1:12:25
was first World Cup of this year for you
1:12:28
yeah first World Cup and season last
1:12:31
year
1:12:32
um I know 20 yeah
1:12:34
yeah I wasn't really going on with any
1:12:36
expectation but I definitely trained
1:12:39
really hard like I was aiming for first
1:12:42
obviously
1:12:43
um
1:12:44
and yeah no the track that check is
1:12:47
honestly terrifying I'd say the most the
1:12:49
scariest one of them all just because
1:12:51
when it rains yeah yeah the dirt
1:12:55
yeah that no
1:12:57
fan not a big fan of that for sure but
1:13:00
um
1:13:01
it was insane I don't even like
1:13:03
it didn't even hit me that I won until
1:13:06
like a week later I was like oh my God I
1:13:08
actually did that but yeah it was crazy
1:13:11
this is awesome yeah I can remember well
1:13:14
actually because I was up there for my
1:13:15
warm-up but I know you're a mechanic
1:13:17
Lewis yeah I know you and I I was just
1:13:21
starting to set stuff up with my
1:13:23
mechanic and you and Louis were to my
1:13:25
left and I didn't know who you were at
1:13:27
the time but I knew him and then Emmy
1:13:29
you were there and I remember Lewis
1:13:32
coming back over just like jumping
1:13:34
around so happy that you'd won uh yeah
1:13:37
I've forgotten about that until let me
1:13:38
just jog my memory there
1:13:42
yeah and you won again in round two of
1:13:44
Fort William
1:13:46
um are you have you been to Fort William
1:13:48
in the first year
1:13:49
on was it your phone support William
1:13:51
that was my first time yeah
1:13:53
that's funny because how did you like
1:13:56
the track there because I remember the
1:13:57
first time I came to Fort William I was
1:13:59
like what is that yeah I was like oh my
1:14:03
God it's so physical like I could barely
1:14:05
hold on in the jumps like it was
1:14:07
terrifying I don't know how I went uh
1:14:10
like Phoebe had a crash that she should
1:14:13
have won yeah I don't know it was kind
1:14:15
of a fluke that must have been a booster
1:14:18
to beat the local girl
1:14:20
yeah I felt pretty bad like I don't know
1:14:24
oh yeah she should have won but hello
1:14:26
well that's really simple
1:14:29
yeah yeah
1:14:30
I think you're pretty consistent like
1:14:32
third in Leo gang in the rain
1:14:35
um and you won again in Atlanta Hyde I
1:14:38
think
1:14:38
um you showed everyone that lenza height
1:14:40
is kind of track that suits you this
1:14:43
year as well so how comfortable you um
1:14:46
you weren't a woman's um Elites um I
1:14:49
think all these results like being so
1:14:51
consistent even if you said like
1:14:53
some of the races were maybe not like
1:14:56
Lords maybe it wasn't the truck that you
1:14:58
particularly like still winning like
1:15:00
must have given you incredible
1:15:01
confidence
1:15:02
for your career in general
1:15:05
yeah yeah totally I like I never expect
1:15:08
to win but then it just happens and it's
1:15:10
yeah well obvious engineer but yeah
1:15:13
that's pretty cool and the consistency
1:15:17
as well yeah sorry
1:15:20
I thought it was so consistent you know
1:15:22
like you were just like even if you had
1:15:25
maybe you could see my kids third place
1:15:27
in Logan maybe you struggle a little bit
1:15:28
that way but you still got third you
1:15:30
know like so it was like
1:15:32
so consistent you were like okay like
1:15:34
even if I mess up a little bit I can
1:15:36
still be top three so that that's
1:15:37
different and just like fighting to get
1:15:40
third you know yeah exactly that my
1:15:42
confidence definitely went out last year
1:15:44
and then
1:15:45
yeah it's pretty crazy actually I
1:15:47
crashed in there again in my finals but
1:15:49
I still made it I didn't find us and you
1:15:52
got third yeah
1:15:55
let's see well I guess it was really
1:15:58
muddy and like you could crash and still
1:16:00
get a decent result because obviously
1:16:03
like I always compare because you race
1:16:05
against Jen last year she threw up in a
1:16:07
helmet in a race run a couple of seconds
1:16:10
like crazy things happened in the in the
1:16:14
junior race for sure did you want to add
1:16:17
something to it yeah I was just gonna
1:16:19
ask were you spending any time during
1:16:21
that second year of Junior looking at
1:16:23
the elite women's times and were you
1:16:25
were you aiming to be competitive in
1:16:28
that category as well if that makes
1:16:29
sense or or was that not your focus were
1:16:31
you just focusing on the junior woman
1:16:33
well I was obviously focusing on the
1:16:35
junior but yeah I'd always take a look
1:16:37
at the elite
1:16:39
yeah some noises were pretty close well
1:16:41
Gorge was the closest yeah I was pretty
1:16:43
impressed by myself I was like wow
1:16:45
that's cool but um yeah I know
1:16:47
definitely looking at the elites too yes
1:16:50
that gave you nice confidence coming
1:16:51
into this year mm-hmm
1:16:55
so
1:16:57
um George put some all the results from
1:17:00
your last junior year on on the script
1:17:03
there says like loads first Fort William
1:17:05
first Logan third lands a height First
1:17:08
Wellness second it's not true first
1:17:10
month and then third and Valley solid
1:17:12
first so let's you can see how
1:17:15
consistent you were it's like not much
1:17:17
there and I I know for a fact it wasn't
1:17:19
maybe all smooth for you but um without
1:17:22
going into them all like which was
1:17:26
um your best performance you think
1:17:28
um
1:17:30
of out of like your last junior year
1:17:33
yeah
1:17:34
um I'd honestly say Lords was pretty
1:17:37
good
1:17:39
um
1:17:39
and then
1:17:42
play about the soul as well yeah I had a
1:17:45
good one about as well
1:17:47
you can win the first race of the season
1:17:49
and then the last verse of the season
1:17:50
that's a pretty pretty good way to go in
1:17:52
it yeah yeah I'm sick
1:17:56
um favorite track of these
1:17:59
are they Englander High definitely
1:18:01
favorite yeah for sure I knew that is
1:18:05
the jumps the jump the jumps in the
1:18:08
Middle where she can hit the big lap and
1:18:10
make me scream because she's done the
1:18:11
biggest way that I've ever seen maybe
1:18:13
that's why yeah yeah it's like I don't
1:18:16
find it scary at all it's just really
1:18:18
fun to ride and
1:18:20
um yeah yeah I really like it lots of
1:18:23
jumps they're actually off camera but at
1:18:26
the top is terrifying that's always a
1:18:28
scary part but
1:18:29
um other than that so I like it
1:18:33
okay so you won the overall pretty
1:18:34
convincingly
1:18:36
um we had 440 points and Phoebe got 350
1:18:40
something in second
1:18:42
um did you win the overall before the
1:18:44
end was it were you already safe or no I
1:18:49
wasn't sick till the last race and then
1:18:51
Phoebe had a crash in crawlies and then
1:18:54
at the top of my race run she didn't
1:18:56
show up and then me and Lewis were like
1:18:57
oh well I guess I just won the overall
1:18:59
and then yeah then I dropped in so
1:19:03
yeah
1:19:04
oh yeah that's that's that's a weird
1:19:08
um position to be in like last year when
1:19:10
yeah
1:19:11
um I'm already didn't know if she won
1:19:14
one or not for one point and then Finn
1:19:16
didn't start so he was like oh I guess
1:19:17
that one and then he crashed in his run
1:19:19
but you you still won the race so I
1:19:21
guess you must have dealt with that
1:19:23
pretty
1:19:24
pretty easily hey yeah
1:19:29
would you say you're strong like
1:19:31
mentally
1:19:33
yeah yeah I'm pretty strong by the time
1:19:36
I'm not stressed I try a lot of stress
1:19:38
and just have fun and uh yeah and I'll
1:19:40
think about pressure of anything yeah
1:19:43
like so okay so this is where my next
1:19:47
question is going like World Champs in
1:19:49
the Jay
1:19:51
um obviously from years old you're
1:19:53
probably the favorite or one of the
1:19:55
favorite
1:19:57
um did you feel additional pressure
1:19:59
Champs
1:20:03
not totally no
1:20:06
Dad no that's a no I was just gonna have
1:20:08
fun but I did have that was like my
1:20:10
first World Cup like with my Red Bull
1:20:12
helmet and everything and I was like a
1:20:15
little a little more stressful but I got
1:20:17
used to it
1:20:19
yeah so you see the third and finished
1:20:21
second behind
1:20:23
um Jenna but then obviously there's
1:20:25
Isabella crash and
1:20:28
um something happened to the Phoebe as
1:20:29
well so there's a lot of time to third
1:20:31
where
1:20:33
um Valentina from Colombia got third
1:20:37
um how did you come away from that race
1:20:39
like were you happy with silver or I
1:20:41
guess it's a pretty good achievement but
1:20:43
I guess from your season maybe you
1:20:45
wanted the stripes
1:20:47
yeah
1:20:49
yeah I left the finished crowd trying
1:20:53
that was that was pretty sad I like
1:20:55
didn't have the best running
1:20:57
but it was all right Jenna deserved it
1:20:59
she was killing it all year so
1:21:01
it was great for her did that motivate
1:21:04
you
1:21:07
um
1:21:08
yeah definitely well I was kind of just
1:21:10
not I was motivated the whole time I
1:21:12
just I just got you know kind of got me
1:21:15
down a little bit but then it's okay
1:21:17
let's start let's go again so
1:21:20
so yeah I just kind of forgot about that
1:21:22
one but in the off season when you were
1:21:25
training was that the motivation or
1:21:28
um
1:21:30
like World champs yeah
1:21:34
um no not really just kind of be
1:21:37
consistent and have fun yeah
1:21:39
so you Midway through you mentioned it a
1:21:42
few minutes ago this this Red Bull
1:21:44
helmet Midway through 2022 you received
1:21:47
it from Brandon
1:21:50
did you have any idea it was coming
1:21:54
um yeah I did a little bit
1:21:58
um
1:21:59
like do you know I don't know if you
1:22:02
guys know Nick Genovese but he's from
1:22:03
mindspark Cinema
1:22:05
um he just like texting me okay can I
1:22:07
follow you around all day I just wanna
1:22:10
yeah I want to follow you around my
1:22:11
camera I was like okay sounds good and
1:22:14
then my whole family showed up that day
1:22:16
as well I was like oh all right and then
1:22:19
when I was going out for whip off GF he
1:22:24
was like Hey Macy just letting you know
1:22:26
you're gonna have a good day today and
1:22:28
I'm like
1:22:29
all right yeah I know what's happening
1:22:32
so yeah
1:22:34
I know but it was definitely I was still
1:22:37
so shocked I don't yeah I didn't really
1:22:40
have a reaction I was just
1:22:42
mind blown didn't actually yeah it's
1:22:45
amazing there's a SRAM video the one
1:22:48
probably the one you've just mentioned
1:22:49
Nick Jennifer yeah sure offers him so I
1:22:51
watched that this morning it's called
1:22:52
steps to the top and you were presented
1:22:55
with that helmet but and that was a
1:22:57
lovely moment but what stood out to me
1:22:59
was was your whips
1:23:01
I think Emmy's mentioned them already I
1:23:03
was watching it and I genuinely said
1:23:06
[ __ ] you now when else this first time
1:23:09
well I've seen you doing them in
1:23:12
practice at the races and stuff but I
1:23:13
was like wow
1:23:15
I've got to be careful our phrase this
1:23:17
and we might shoot me down here I've got
1:23:20
to be very careful if any doesn't my
1:23:21
wife will probably from the other room
1:23:23
but it's not like you're good
1:23:25
for a girl there's none of that is it
1:23:27
you are genuinely legit good at it is it
1:23:30
something you practice a lot
1:23:34
um I don't know I just kind of I've just
1:23:37
always follow the boys at the bike park
1:23:38
and they'd be doing it so I kind of just
1:23:42
like got along and started doing it too
1:23:45
so yeah I just grew up kind of looking
1:23:47
so how old would you say you were where
1:23:50
you could like when you could start
1:23:52
whipping fat you know well
1:23:57
I'd say like 12 or 13. wow
1:24:01
all right maybe a little later
1:24:03
yeah we'll accept that yeah is it too
1:24:06
late for me Jack is it too late for me
1:24:08
to learn something's too late for you
1:24:09
George what were the gun at school
1:24:12
[Music]
1:24:14
so Brandon presented you with that
1:24:16
helmet
1:24:18
do you ride with him a lot because he's
1:24:20
a bit he said he you know he was the
1:24:22
hero growing up
1:24:24
he's a bit of an enigma to us over here
1:24:26
because he's just incredible bike rider
1:24:30
yeah but he you don't hear him on
1:24:33
podcasts he's not a big social guy I
1:24:35
mean when I say the social guy he
1:24:37
doesn't do any selfie type stuff you
1:24:39
know or vlogging or anything like that
1:24:40
he Matt he posted the videos the amazing
1:24:43
videos he does so you can't find out
1:24:44
that much about him out of outside of
1:24:47
competition and the videos he produces
1:24:49
are you good friends
1:24:51
no not really you sure yeah
1:24:54
yeah no one on the coast seems to know
1:24:56
what he's up to he's always busy doing
1:24:58
something but yeah I probably don't know
1:25:00
any more than you do
1:25:03
yeah yeah I thought from that video it
1:25:06
seemed like he knew you pretty well when
1:25:08
he was giving you the help yeah well I
1:25:10
grew up like riding with him at the bike
1:25:12
park and stuff but yeah yeah that's
1:25:14
about it and tell me what what's that
1:25:16
like as an experience riding with
1:25:17
Brandon seminar
1:25:19
oh yeah that was really cool I was yeah
1:25:22
I mean it's still intimidated by him but
1:25:24
it's very intimidating yeah I would
1:25:26
always be scared to like go off like
1:25:28
next time on a shuttle or whatever but
1:25:30
yeah he's an awesome dude and super nice
1:25:32
yeah you taught you stuff
1:25:36
um
1:25:40
not really I just wrote with him lots at
1:25:43
the bike park you've always follow me
1:25:45
and
1:25:46
yeah give me tips and stuff but yeah
1:25:49
very sick does anybody like who did you
1:25:52
learn from
1:25:56
um I just say like the boys that I'd
1:25:59
partylap with basically I didn't really
1:26:02
have I didn't yeah I didn't I haven't
1:26:05
had any coaching at all ever but yeah it
1:26:09
would just be bike park laps yeah it's
1:26:11
kind of indirect coach isn't it when
1:26:12
you're always riding with people who are
1:26:14
good faster yeah emulate what they're
1:26:17
doing and learn from it it's especially
1:26:19
when you're a young person because you
1:26:21
can just absorb it all and
1:26:23
you know yeah totally definitely not a
1:26:25
bad environment to to grow up learning
1:26:27
that's for sure yeah
1:26:30
so the end of 2022 uh Norco announced
1:26:33
that they were pausing their Factory
1:26:34
team which I think was a surprise to a
1:26:36
lot of people definitely a surprise to
1:26:38
me when I saw that come out yeah me too
1:26:41
well that's our question so they only
1:26:44
then went and unpause it a few weeks
1:26:46
later
1:26:47
um was that kind of a little bit of a
1:26:49
traumatic
1:26:50
a couple of weeks for you did they give
1:26:52
you any assurances that you were still
1:26:53
going to be supported or was it an
1:26:55
unknown time period for you
1:27:02
the week before it went on pink bike
1:27:04
like it was it was bad actually yeah not
1:27:08
good
1:27:10
um but yeah I had other like
1:27:12
opportunities but then
1:27:15
I don't know I just kind of it then like
1:27:18
a week later
1:27:20
like hello management and everything
1:27:24
came in and then
1:27:26
yeah it was just they kind of hit the
1:27:28
restart button and everything
1:27:31
like this was better from there before
1:27:33
and then to go right and then I just
1:27:36
felt comfortable with the team and
1:27:38
yeah it's pretty sign it was almost
1:27:40
internal changes at Norco that meant
1:27:42
they decided to
1:27:44
reignite the team once they've got
1:27:46
settled okay awesome totally yeah good
1:27:50
so into 2023 uh you went and won the
1:27:52
test event at Lords
1:27:54
um did that give you a good boost going
1:27:55
into the season
1:27:57
uh not really
1:28:05
I don't know it was all right
1:28:07
yeah okay just yeah well the track was
1:28:10
terrifying I just thought I was gonna
1:28:11
die yeah that sounds good yeah I can
1:28:14
agree with that Lord's in the way yeah
1:28:16
very unpredictable and there's not
1:28:18
really a tire that will do the job so
1:28:21
yeah for sure
1:28:23
yeah okay so
1:28:25
World Cup start and Lanza Hyde you got
1:28:27
faster through the week you qualified 11
1:28:30
329 three fourth in the semi 3 13 7 and
1:28:34
then sixth in the final but again it was
1:28:36
a faster time you were only 0.4 off the
1:28:39
podium it's solid progress were you
1:28:41
happy with your weekend
1:28:42
yeah I was really happy and seeing
1:28:44
Rachel win I was like lost in the same
1:28:47
thing I've ever seen but um yeah no it
1:28:50
was I was really happy about it though
1:28:52
tell us a bit about lining up against
1:28:54
Rachel and
1:28:57
that's insane like she's
1:29:00
like I've looked up to her like my whole
1:29:02
childhood they're like oh man I want to
1:29:04
be like her one day and then seeing her
1:29:06
there yeah raising her yesterday was
1:29:09
yeah surreal because I imagine you never
1:29:12
thought that day had happened because
1:29:14
she you know no never
1:29:16
yeah
1:29:18
she could almost be retired you know she
1:29:21
went away for a good while I nobody knew
1:29:24
she was definitely gonna come back no
1:29:26
yeah amazing what she did that's so
1:29:29
impressive yeah
1:29:31
definitely so then until later again
1:29:35
qualified fifteen eights and eighth in
1:29:38
the semi and seventh in the final
1:29:41
um
1:29:42
under a second of the podium so
1:29:44
more good consistency and getting faster
1:29:46
throughout the weekend but also
1:29:48
qualified sixth third in the semi
1:29:51
seventh in the final getting faster each
1:29:53
run does Emmy did you say earlier did
1:29:55
you crash in your finals right
1:29:57
yeah I did
1:29:59
and what's the feeling now that you know
1:30:01
out the front door it was a big crash it
1:30:05
was a big run yeah
1:30:09
it's pretty much the best friend of my
1:30:10
life I think I probably would have
1:30:11
gotten second but yeah no I was so
1:30:16
yeah I'm still pretty mad about this but
1:30:19
um yeah I know the podium and
1:30:20
everything's it's coming I'm just
1:30:22
gotta be patient why did the crash
1:30:25
happen
1:30:27
um I don't know I got like
1:30:29
I almost crashed in the corner before it
1:30:31
because I was like trying to not use my
1:30:33
brakes and then yeah almost slid the
1:30:35
front and then I think I just went to
1:30:37
inside right like by the tree and then
1:30:40
just caught a root and then went over
1:30:42
the bars
1:30:43
Okay so
1:30:46
do you feel you were kind of pushing
1:30:48
harder than you should have done to try
1:30:50
and Hunt that Podium or was it was it
1:30:51
just one of those things it was one of
1:30:54
those things I was feeling so good I
1:30:56
wasn't feeling out of my comfort zone at
1:30:57
all I was like
1:30:59
especially in the right amount no that
1:31:01
was a good feeling yeah cool Okay so
1:31:04
we've seen you know you're pretty good
1:31:06
at the semis getting good semi-final
1:31:07
results are you a fan of that format
1:31:10
I actually like it yeah it's like
1:31:13
it kind of takes me a bit to get up to
1:31:16
Pace in general and then you know just
1:31:19
kind of gives you
1:31:21
kind of like a second chance almost but
1:31:24
not really yeah get more information on
1:31:26
the way to the finals run I guess yeah
1:31:28
totally yeah are you looking forward to
1:31:31
going back to the the old format at
1:31:34
Worlds with seeden and then just the one
1:31:36
restaurant or would you rather yeah or
1:31:39
do you don't care
1:31:41
okay it's like that's what it is
1:31:44
I get the feeling you're just ready to
1:31:46
race your bike and yeah or whatever it
1:31:49
is
1:31:51
totally
1:31:53
so currently sitting seventh in the
1:31:56
overall yet the first Podium clearly as
1:32:01
you just said it's on the cards very
1:32:02
soon anytime soon what are the
1:32:04
aspirations for the rest of the season
1:32:06
what can you share with us
1:32:09
yeah I wanna
1:32:11
yeah something like kind of collecting
1:32:13
by the store in my writing I just like I
1:32:16
felt so good I don't know why but um
1:32:18
yeah I just want to keep that pace going
1:32:20
and try and get a tough
1:32:23
but that's the goal anyway but we'll see
1:32:25
what happens
1:32:27
I didn't actually hear that sorry
1:32:29
connection dropped what what did you say
1:32:31
the goal was my connection top five
1:32:33
overall
1:32:34
nice yeah I think that's very achievable
1:32:37
for sure from what we've been
1:32:40
um
1:32:40
Gracie are you gonna try to do something
1:32:42
about the first split
1:32:45
yeah that's right I don't know what's
1:32:48
going on there I mean I don't know
1:32:53
yeah Gracie's get like have a tendency
1:32:56
to like start in a race quite like chill
1:32:59
like she's she's a chill yeah no no she
1:33:02
just cut it cut it till then
1:33:04
laid-back person and that's how she
1:33:06
started to run and then started getting
1:33:08
faster but yeah definitely
1:33:10
if you can approve on this first split
1:33:13
that people need to get scared need to
1:33:17
be scared because you're gonna you're
1:33:19
gonna get some results for sure yeah you
1:33:21
need to work on it I was just about to
1:33:24
say like you you're talking to you this
1:33:26
evening you do seem like an extremely
1:33:29
relaxed person do you feel like do you
1:33:33
feel like you almost
1:33:34
a quite relaxed leading up to the run
1:33:37
and it takes you that first sector to to
1:33:40
go oh yeah we're going now and by then
1:33:43
yeah
1:33:45
yeah I'd say that's about correct
1:33:48
um and yeah my semi-final I like it was
1:33:52
the gnarliest run I tried to like push
1:33:54
right off the start and then almost
1:33:56
crashed so hard I was like oh man I
1:33:59
don't know anything yeah I don't know
1:34:00
what to do about it but do you almost
1:34:02
like on it yeah you're like finding your
1:34:04
rhythm in the road and then you're like
1:34:05
oh there it is yeah you tried to force
1:34:09
the issue
1:34:12
maybe we should try and ride with Tony
1:34:18
yeah
1:34:19
maybe she'll knock you along
1:34:22
but yeah maybe I can keep that
1:34:26
and then it's Hardline this weekend
1:34:29
um you know giving you a Red Bull
1:34:30
athlete and as we've talked about quite
1:34:31
a lot
1:34:33
um jumping is definitely your your Forte
1:34:35
is is an event like Hardline something
1:34:37
that you kind of like the look of for
1:34:39
the future for yourself totally yeah I I
1:34:42
got asked if I want to do it this year
1:34:44
but I don't know we had some testing and
1:34:46
stuff and I don't know enough to make
1:34:49
flight ready for it I'd rather just
1:34:52
I don't know be prepared somehow and
1:34:54
make it I don't know safer for myself
1:34:58
yeah it's pretty gnarly we don't wanna
1:35:01
get destroyed
1:35:02
yeah we've just been talking in part one
1:35:05
of the podcast about
1:35:07
um this new breed of of downhill Racers
1:35:10
who are coming through you've got
1:35:11
Jackson and Jordan in in the in the
1:35:14
men's Elite field and how
1:35:18
um they just ride their bikes a lot they
1:35:20
don't do as much to work perhaps just
1:35:22
some of the more established Riders how
1:35:26
are you in that same school
1:35:30
um this last winter I was in the gym
1:35:34
about like
1:35:36
80 I was not really like yeah I was not
1:35:40
really riding my bike very much just
1:35:41
because it was like
1:35:42
oh fully snowy for like two months and
1:35:44
then yeah yeah the team didn't go
1:35:47
anywhere and then
1:35:49
yeah I was just when I jumped like two
1:35:51
hours a day
1:35:52
giving where you're from do you do any
1:35:55
snowboarding skiing are you into that
1:35:57
kind of thing
1:35:58
surprisingly not at all I skied once
1:36:01
last year and I was on the ground for
1:36:03
most of the day so definitely it's
1:36:06
definitely not my forte yeah
1:36:09
cool well thanks for making the time to
1:36:11
come on the podcast we'll let you get
1:36:13
back to uh well just getting this bike
1:36:15
set up it's been a pleasure um getting
1:36:18
to know you and best of luck for the
1:36:19
rest of the season if I can get a media
1:36:22
Plus for worlds
1:36:23
um I need to give a mention to Suzanne
1:36:25
lens at the UCI and maybe you can spot
1:36:27
that out for me Susan I'll maybe drop by
1:36:29
and see how you're getting on um
1:36:32
yeah amazing thanks so we'll be back
1:36:35
with more after these messages so before
1:36:38
we get into Hardline and worlds um the
1:36:40
one bit I wanted to ask you about
1:36:42
valdisol that we didn't get time to
1:36:43
before oh yeah it was um the Drone shots
1:36:47
a lot better in baldisol but are they
1:36:51
off-putting for the Riders it is it
1:36:54
sometimes with cameras it looks like
1:36:56
you're closer than you actually are is
1:36:58
it something anyone commented about I'll
1:37:00
let you know when I do a finals George
1:37:03
they don't I don't think
1:37:06
cam didn't say anything
1:37:08
right like valisal was closer it
1:37:12
couldn't be much further than Leo gang
1:37:14
it was like literally in the sky
1:37:17
but but
1:37:18
well it's not I don't think she noticed
1:37:21
it like but cam doesn't really notice
1:37:23
when someone like yeah you shouldn't be
1:37:25
sure someone familiar well I do all the
1:37:28
time like Bernard Bernard was telling me
1:37:30
how he like heard Elliot in his finals
1:37:33
run
1:37:33
Elliot was like on the side of the track
1:37:35
and he was like but he was where nobody
1:37:38
was but yeah some people noticed more
1:37:40
than others I'm the most distinctive
1:37:42
voice around as well yeah yeah
1:37:45
probably but yeah I don't think I've
1:37:47
like I haven't heard about people being
1:37:50
like annoyed by it something that
1:37:52
actually from valve us all we touched on
1:37:54
the commentary didn't we
1:37:56
um in lenzside and Leo gang yeah
1:37:59
I from from a personal perspective have
1:38:02
to give obviously a big shout out to
1:38:04
Rick and Cedric on their improvements
1:38:07
when they're commonplace on myself
1:38:09
because they were very nice
1:38:12
um with a point where Cedric said I was
1:38:16
I looked in but incredibly strong
1:38:19
athlete he said and then they referenced
1:38:21
me to giathen now if that isn't a
1:38:23
massive compliment yeah I don't know
1:38:25
what it is
1:38:28
so yeah from my side of things well done
1:38:31
boys keep going the biggest funds now
1:38:34
yeah but I wonder why though because
1:38:36
like they also talk a lot about the
1:38:38
pivot bike and everything like they're
1:38:40
like complimenting and the bike and burn
1:38:43
it and whatever and yeah yeah
1:38:47
I don't know like no but I I was like oh
1:38:50
wow they're saying a lot of good things
1:38:52
about this pivot bike that's uh nice you
1:38:55
know like they did not shy about
1:38:57
expressing about like certain people or
1:39:00
no no I found quite surprising it'd be
1:39:03
nice and nice is nice whereas previous
1:39:07
years certain people have not been nice
1:39:09
and what was it like him yeah like a
1:39:12
monkey no I don't mind that that's funny
1:39:14
and I deserve that like that was in 2011
1:39:17
and I definitely deserved everything Rob
1:39:19
said that day it's more like
1:39:21
um like cloudy always you it's always
1:39:24
like just like why are they trying so
1:39:26
hard why are the peddling so hard it's
1:39:28
like
1:39:31
Cedric actually said something like that
1:39:33
in
1:39:34
um
1:39:36
Blind Side I think it was untied when me
1:39:38
and Dan did our semi's about you know
1:39:41
what you know they're pushing so hard
1:39:43
from the gate in like a negative way and
1:39:44
it's like well of course we have a three
1:39:46
minute race run yeah
1:39:48
yeah but no I thought personally I
1:39:52
thought much better so as we mentioned
1:39:54
when we were chatting to Gracie it's
1:39:56
hard line this weekend first question
1:39:59
are you excited for it
1:40:01
not at all won't watch it
1:40:04
I am I almost forgot it was on but yeah
1:40:07
now now
1:40:11
um no I'm excited for it yeah there's
1:40:13
nothing on or there's Canyon Canadian
1:40:16
champ and Jacob and Dane Jewett are
1:40:19
racing so I'll follow that as well but
1:40:21
yeah for sure excited to see I just
1:40:24
remember girls riding
1:40:27
I just remembered like it might have
1:40:31
been when we had Bernard on our last
1:40:32
maybe it was at the end of last season
1:40:34
and I said to you I haven't we were
1:40:36
talking about Hardline I said I haven't
1:40:37
watched the final yet but I will go and
1:40:39
watch it and I realized today I never
1:40:40
went back and watched the final of
1:40:42
Hardline I don't know why it just it
1:40:45
doesn't seem to excite me
1:40:47
I'm not interested and the reason the
1:40:50
way I was thinking about it is
1:40:52
you know Tyson Fury you know the boxer
1:40:55
he announced a I don't know if you do
1:40:57
you know Tyson Fury I mean yeah he
1:40:59
announced a fight this week against a
1:41:01
guy who was in the UFC
1:41:04
and it
1:41:06
it's interesting to people who aren't
1:41:08
that into boxing as to what's going to
1:41:11
happen in this fight but if you're into
1:41:12
racing
1:41:14
I felt that hard Line's a bit the same
1:41:16
way like the best Riders aren't there
1:41:18
yeah I'm a fan of racing kind of he's a
1:41:22
bit like well let's see what these
1:41:23
Riders hit 90 foot gaps and things like
1:41:25
that
1:41:28
to me it's almost more the process to
1:41:31
get to the race and it's almost more
1:41:32
interesting yeah um of course I I'm Die
1:41:36
Hard fan of any like sporting event in
1:41:39
general so I think it's pretty cool to
1:41:41
watch and I know it's very important to
1:41:43
burn into his my friend and teammates so
1:41:46
obviously I'll like root for him but
1:41:49
obviously if he wasn't racing maybe I
1:41:51
wouldn't be that interested you know but
1:41:53
obviously now with like the female
1:41:55
writers trying to like at least hit
1:41:57
stuff and and everything and all the
1:41:59
coverage it it makes it also interesting
1:42:02
it's quite something different but um I
1:42:04
would understand if you wouldn't be into
1:42:06
it obviously a lot of people that I like
1:42:08
or friends out there yeah I'm not sure
1:42:11
if like mid-season just before worlds is
1:42:13
is the right place for it the only rider
1:42:16
in the top 10 standings who might be
1:42:18
there is Laurie but with worlds in Fort
1:42:20
William where he won a few weeks ago at
1:42:23
the national would you risk it if you
1:42:25
were in I know he's a Red Bull late but
1:42:27
would you risk it you wouldn't think so
1:42:30
no depends if he sees it as a risk
1:42:32
that's the thing if he's comfortable
1:42:33
with the track and it's not windy
1:42:40
does he say it as a risk
1:42:44
to some people Heartland is almost more
1:42:48
important than worlds like at least for
1:42:50
someone like Bern and he he he sees
1:42:53
value in that that maybe other people
1:42:55
don't see and I I respect that you know
1:42:59
um but yeah definitely Maybe
1:43:03
another day would be better but I guess
1:43:05
they try to like make it in the summer
1:43:08
to for the weather to be better I don't
1:43:10
think it really succeeded so far but
1:43:13
um yeah that may be one of the reason
1:43:15
why
1:43:16
yeah with the season finishing sort of
1:43:18
land it's probably October's no it's
1:43:20
going to be like nearly November by the
1:43:22
time it fail to get around to it
1:43:24
probably Jack I've probably asked you
1:43:25
this before but I can't remember the
1:43:27
answer would you race it if you remember
1:43:28
you have asked me and my answer is now
1:43:31
no and I asked you if I could go and I
1:43:34
think it was 2016 and he didn't give me
1:43:36
an invite so
1:43:38
but you would yeah 2016-17 when I was in
1:43:42
the mid to late 20s and I was having
1:43:43
better Seasons absolutely but I wasn't
1:43:46
cool enough to join the party so
1:43:50
you've just been talking about Emmy
1:43:52
is a strong female to contingent Riders
1:43:55
there just blew it I think it's there
1:43:57
I've already seen tiny jump in the
1:43:59
cannon which is pretty impressive I
1:44:01
think Louise Ferguson might be there as
1:44:02
well how long do you think it'll be
1:44:04
before we see a woman taking part in
1:44:07
Hardline
1:44:08
it really depends also on the weather
1:44:11
and the way they can prepare for it if
1:44:13
they had a great week not much wind and
1:44:15
they can practice like full runs I don't
1:44:18
see why they can't do it obviously
1:44:20
the roll Gap hasn't been jumped by any
1:44:24
female yeah I think
1:44:26
um it's probably the most intermediate
1:44:28
intimidating feature with the two big
1:44:30
doubles because obviously of the
1:44:34
I don't know I always thought maybe you
1:44:36
always thought we always wonder why it
1:44:38
would be so hard but I guess the Canon
1:44:40
is quite a hard impact and the girls
1:44:42
made it like no problem so you would be
1:44:45
surprised that I think it's more the
1:44:47
time that you have and the fact that you
1:44:49
have to mentally like overcome fear so
1:44:52
much like if you come back another year
1:44:54
then you have this ticked off this
1:44:56
ticked off and it was just like take a
1:44:58
little bit more time and you don't wanna
1:45:00
like Russia as well but yeah definitely
1:45:04
Hardline has come far also for the the
1:45:07
first time the boys raced it until now
1:45:09
so it would take a little bit of time
1:45:11
but I wouldn't be surprised it would be
1:45:13
like next year or or soon at least on
1:45:17
the on that video of Tony posted the run
1:45:19
into the cannon and didn't want that
1:45:21
that great she was kind of hot pain I
1:45:23
think you think you come around a corner
1:45:24
oh yeah it was just wet it's just wet
1:45:27
and rough like yeah so it's not it's
1:45:30
it's yeah it's it's not a highway it's
1:45:33
just definitely hard to generate speed
1:45:35
but
1:45:36
um it's cool to see burner try to like
1:45:38
have the ladies out and he's always been
1:45:40
like this with me and and and also try
1:45:43
to like make progression for the ladies
1:45:45
also happen which
1:45:47
you can criticate him on a lot of stuff
1:45:50
but I think it's pretty cool that he's
1:45:51
doing that maybe you should go
1:45:55
me film you mean film filming with my
1:45:59
phone you mean
1:46:00
but it's Bernard's won it three times I
1:46:03
think he's three times before he clearly
1:46:06
loves it you've just said you know how
1:46:07
how much he values it have you spoken
1:46:09
with him this week
1:46:11
I never speak to him in hard Lane with
1:46:13
his assistant to do not some no he's
1:46:16
just in his in the zone and he's just in
1:46:18
there and um I'll
1:46:20
I'll send him comment on his stuff but
1:46:23
no he's just he's in his little world
1:46:25
yeah cool well
1:46:28
I think we're going to get another show
1:46:29
in before World Champs in Fort William
1:46:31
but just in case we don't let's end the
1:46:32
show with some chat and some predictions
1:46:35
Junior men and women Lisa Bula do won
1:46:38
the national there in mayor with a 521
1:46:40
which is a very fast time for a junior
1:46:43
woman would you make her the favorite or
1:46:46
would you go Sasha Earnest or a respawn
1:46:49
lumen
1:46:52
um well Lisa has been there so that's a
1:46:55
huge Advantage but then Gracie hasn't
1:46:58
been there and she won it the first time
1:47:00
she's been there so you know if you have
1:47:01
the talent
1:47:03
um you can definitely do it but I'll
1:47:06
definitely either search or Lisa Eris
1:47:10
um style might be maybe a little bit too
1:47:13
aggressive on such a long track I could
1:47:16
be wrong
1:47:17
but I know myself I had to like adopt my
1:47:20
writing style and be a bit more like
1:47:22
efficient and economical on the bike to
1:47:25
make it the whole way yeah so we'll see
1:47:28
but definitely and the Valentina
1:47:33
the Colombian Rider she's also
1:47:37
fast and she's been there before and she
1:47:40
wants it so hard because she got third
1:47:42
last year so she could pull one off you
1:47:43
never know and these four are like a
1:47:46
little bit better than the rest of them
1:47:47
but um I'll say maybe Sasha or Lisa have
1:47:51
a little bit of an edge
1:47:53
and in Julian man Henry Kiefer took the
1:47:55
win at the national with a 436 again a
1:47:59
very fast time
1:48:01
who would you who's your money on Jack
1:48:04
how is it too hard yeah it's any of
1:48:07
those top Boys in it they've been
1:48:08
shuffling around
1:48:09
um yeah I don't follow that category as
1:48:14
in enough detail to to properly kind of
1:48:17
bet on one
1:48:18
um it would be nice to see one of the
1:48:20
British guys on the podium that's for
1:48:22
sure I think
1:48:23
performance wise with we're not looking
1:48:26
at a British gold medal in that category
1:48:27
[Music]
1:48:33
sing
1:48:34
the the big the big good run but they
1:48:38
have so many contenders
1:48:42
Napoleon oh national champs which shows
1:48:46
how much depth they are
1:48:49
um so there's also a few first years
1:48:52
that are really really fast and I
1:48:55
wouldn't be surprised if one of the
1:48:57
French is just suddenly like comes out
1:48:59
of nowhere but Chris Hauser obviously
1:49:03
um for me is a favorite also because of
1:49:05
his size and how strong he is and he if
1:49:08
he keeps it like 95 he can probably win
1:49:12
it you know because I think he's
1:49:14
for sure we'll speed the fastest out
1:49:16
there but maybe about Canadian boys
1:49:18
we'll see maybe Ryan and Ryan I had
1:49:24
um was second in mental before he
1:49:27
crashed into the tree so he's also kind
1:49:29
of like a big guy you know so if he gets
1:49:32
his knuckled because he has a broken
1:49:34
knuckle if he gets his knuckle like in
1:49:37
shape before
1:49:38
he could he could maybe be close to a
1:49:41
Podium who knows you know there's a lot
1:49:43
of containers out there so that's pretty
1:49:44
cool to see
1:49:45
Elite women
1:49:47
I've put four names down here Rachel
1:49:50
Valley come in Nina
1:49:54
can you see anyone
1:49:56
outside those four
1:50:00
well Gracie just told us that she's a
1:50:02
hamster
1:50:04
so she felt like she'd got second if she
1:50:06
hadn't had that crash so she's clearly
1:50:08
feeling like it's clicked so
1:50:11
yeah I mean you've gotta you gotta go
1:50:13
with one of the big Penny maybe I mean
1:50:17
if Connie feels confident enough to go
1:50:19
to highlight which I was like mindful
1:50:22
enough
1:50:23
um and she's I know how well she wants
1:50:25
to do that she can have the same
1:50:27
mentality there hopefully same problem
1:50:30
as Rachel maybe Fitness to her standards
1:50:34
obviously yeah you know because she's
1:50:36
always been a very fit Rider and Rachel
1:50:38
was like out of this world fit back then
1:50:41
when she was winning I don't know maybe
1:50:43
Tony can also be a container I mean she
1:50:47
said on the last episode didn't she that
1:50:49
that was the dream the Fort William
1:50:52
World Champs
1:50:55
I'm guessing Miriam won't be back
1:50:58
no
1:50:59
no I've talking to her and yeah it's
1:51:03
still kind of like started school for
1:51:05
now I'm trying to get into exercise and
1:51:08
stuff and trying to not rush it because
1:51:09
every time
1:51:10
sometimes it goes sometimes it doesn't
1:51:12
but um she definitely won't be back
1:51:15
until she can like properly like perform
1:51:18
which
1:51:20
it'll be hard until the end of the
1:51:22
season but we never know because we had
1:51:23
uh we have until October but
1:51:25
yeah
1:51:27
that's that's sad to see well very best
1:51:31
to Miriam does anybody want to do a
1:51:33
prediction do you want to do a
1:51:34
prediction Jack the women's yeah
1:51:37
oh
1:51:39
I'm I'm seeing I'm seeing Rachel like
1:51:42
Vegas
1:51:46
um I don't want to anger anyone I'm
1:51:48
gonna I'm just gonna keep yeah yeah
1:51:53
but I don't have one I genuinely don't
1:51:55
have one like you
1:51:58
nobody is going to be surprised if
1:52:00
Rachel comes out and as well nobody
1:52:01
because how long has she been Racing
1:52:03
Fort William she will be training for
1:52:05
the event like come on let's be real
1:52:07
like I got a kid and
1:52:10
and still draining loads like so that
1:52:13
ain't gonna stop up
1:52:15
um nobody's gonna be surprised if she
1:52:16
comes out and does well and nobody's
1:52:19
gonna be surprised if the other ones
1:52:21
you've listed cam Valley Nina nobody's
1:52:24
gonna be surprised if I do well either
1:52:25
so
1:52:27
yeah do you think do you think Rachel
1:52:29
retires if she wins it
1:52:32
that thing is the shed haven't they like
1:52:35
if she can she can come out and perform
1:52:37
well and get great results it's great
1:52:38
marketing for their bike brand so why
1:52:40
would she not do so even if she just
1:52:42
dips out dips in and out of races for
1:52:44
the next X amount of years it's just
1:52:47
good marketing so it just makes sense
1:52:49
whereas if you ask me the question about
1:52:51
whether G should come back my answer
1:52:52
would be no because like
1:52:55
looking at the men's at the moment like
1:52:57
I've been consistently now the second
1:53:00
oldest
1:53:01
to be in
1:53:03
the semi-final there's Minar over and
1:53:05
then there's me Brayton Blinky and
1:53:07
remoterion and that kind of Ridge Rider
1:53:09
all there and if G came back he'd be
1:53:11
older than others and how long has he
1:53:12
been out of touch with it now whereas
1:53:14
for Rachel it's a little different like
1:53:15
just proves you can come back and just
1:53:17
be in the mix so why would she not
1:53:19
so Elite man
1:53:22
I've put some names down yes Loris
1:53:25
Jordan Jackson
1:53:27
and then Laurie who won the national
1:53:29
with that 425 t-bar
1:53:32
Charlie Hatton
1:53:35
I genuinely think Jordan's gonna win
1:53:38
like
1:53:40
I genuinely think he's gonna win I know
1:53:43
how much she wants it I know he rides
1:53:45
that track well he had great Pace at the
1:53:47
national there until he punctured
1:53:49
um
1:53:50
yeah like that that's where I put my
1:53:52
money obviously there's a large number
1:53:54
riders that can do it but I think if he
1:53:57
has a good one on the day I think he's
1:53:59
he's he's going to be going to be the
1:54:01
man to be
1:54:02
okay maybe Tebow I don't know I feel
1:54:06
like I've never seen people develop in
1:54:08
any prediction I've ever did
1:54:10
but I don't know like I feel like like
1:54:12
you said maybe Endura but I think maybe
1:54:14
if Jordan doesn't do it maybe table will
1:54:17
because I remember like uh seeing them
1:54:19
both Armory and him
1:54:21
riding last year and I was like what the
1:54:24
hell the difference like they were on
1:54:26
different speed oh yeah it's crazy
1:54:29
so if he keeps it together it could be
1:54:32
close yeah it is that type of race where
1:54:35
if he can hold it together for one run
1:54:37
yeah he could win it I'm gonna curse
1:54:40
Danny Hart
1:54:41
[Laughter]
1:54:52
how ironic would it be like that's what
1:54:55
I think back in the peak of his career
1:54:57
he could just never quite wrap it up at
1:54:59
Fort William imagine if it wasn't now he
1:55:02
did it out in Canberra
1:55:04
different different area though
1:55:06
different era and also you didn't even
1:55:08
have knee pads on
1:55:10
Danny not doing the national
1:55:12
first trip up there fresh
1:55:15
yeah I'm thinking so is Greg still a
1:55:18
contender I was just about to say a
1:55:20
minute ago imagine if Greg goes out and
1:55:21
[ __ ] wins it never been one on a
1:55:23
mullet well William's still never been
1:55:25
won on a mullet
1:55:27
really yeah because for demands yeah
1:55:31
yeah I'm a reward on a full 29 last year
1:55:33
most of them do switch over to full 29
1:55:35
too yeah yeah before worlds we've got UK
1:55:39
national champs are you racing Jack
1:55:41
I am definitely yeah
1:55:43
um gonna be down there competing myself
1:55:45
and uh
1:55:46
obviously helping Owen try and Chase
1:55:49
that title in the junior category so
1:55:50
yeah it's gonna be a good weekend
1:55:52
looking forward to it hope we get some
1:55:53
good weather excellent well I'll see you
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