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I wonder how you feel about ebikes dare
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I ask well I don't think that they're
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gonna be used for the wonderful reasons
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that keep getting bandied about which is
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you know the aging or the disabled or
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the the neophyte or whatever getting out
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there and then they're gonna wean
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themselves off now I don't see that I
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see them as motorized fat tired vehicles
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not unlike a motorcycle I've ridden them
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you go considerably faster not a little
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bit it's not a little bit and our human
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nature is not one of a little bit right
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we're not gonna say oh well twenty watts
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is really all I need that's what I'm
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gonna buy no it's not it'd be like
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saying well you know can I still get an
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iPhone 4 you know if I could just get a
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new one it would be it would be plenty
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and you know I don't need the car that
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talks to me but we we people we first
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worlders we want more and I don't think
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that the ebike thing is going to be any
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different so it's gonna be like 60 watts
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70 watts 8100 and then hack it and maybe
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I'm speaking American because I'm an
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American and here we chip we buy
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brand new $40,000 cars and $80,000
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trucks and we make them go faster and
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you know everything is about more right
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that's why I mean look at this we're
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more well actually this is a return to
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less but the truth is is that it still
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got indexed shifting and disc brakes and
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all that so it's still more than what
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could be done on the same trail so but I
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do think that the electric powered
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bicycle which the electric power far
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exceeds the riders output far exceeds
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let's not talk about knee no shorter
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right oh yeah it doesn't put out as much
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it no you don't put out as much as
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either right so the it's substantially
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greater and the potential for more for
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imple I a friend of mine works for Bosch
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and after a high-profile race at a very
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big race here in America some time back
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they were supposed to take the bikes and
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would he call it a they like GPS him to
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make sure that and he said they the guys
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were already pulling out their phones
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and readjusting and I and I don't know
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how they do that but he said that he has
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checked bikes that were going 28 miles
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an hour uphill right so I don't know how
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they do that I don't own one
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as long as I'm physically able I will
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continue to pedal but and and I think
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that e bikes are great for people that
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are not physically able and I'm talking
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about physical disabilities not obesity
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not lethargy no kid on we all we we most
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of us we started riding slow and
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painfully and we worked our way up a
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little bit a little bit stronger still
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in the slow and painful station today we
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and when you add the motor it just went
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away right because now you don't if you
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don't want to you can put it on turbo
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and soft-pedal it uphill faster than
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anybody can pedal human pedal right not
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Nino not a alien right so that's my take
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but on the other hand I truly believe
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that in a few years maybe five maybe
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eight whatever that is that the high-end
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mountain bike industry will be done it
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will be exterminated by the electric
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mountain bike because there's no logical
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reason why somebody's gonna walk into
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your local retailer or look at it online
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right and they're gonna say you know I
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got you know five thousand quid six
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thousand and I'm gonna buy a nice new
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bike and you're gonna look at and you're
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gonna go I'm an idiot if I don't buy the
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one same price with a motor right part
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of our this is an this is an opinion on
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our nature which of course is arguable
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to the end of time the human nature is
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have two choices one has a motor one
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doesn't they cost the same why would I
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get the other one that doesn't because
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this one gives me more well do you need
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more no I I'm thirty-five year old like
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I could lose a few pounds or eighty you
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know whatever but I it's dumb to pay
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that much and not get the moat I'll take
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the motor and then you test ride it of
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course and then of course the motor is
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is nice well actually I'm of the opinion
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that the the ones that have more the
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lesser fun wants to ride because they
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ride away from me but the ones that have
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a bit more natural control it's like
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being on EPO then maybe I think that's a
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better quality ride but well yeah you
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obviously are maybe more in control you
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know then most of the people I'm
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thinking of right because you're the one
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that says twenty watts or why I'm just
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making up audits I think it's what 60 or
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where it is whatever is enough is enough
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and then you will in you'll enjoy the
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enhancement right whereas I think some
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are going to enjoy the tweakin right the
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I don't know what you call it in UK but
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the geek in right okay I tweaked it and
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you know and I rewind and send it off
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and the merit the Brit and reflashed it
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and right and now and see in America it
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seems that in the UK and even in the EU
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there's a lot greater I don't know
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openness to new things recreative in the
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mountains right or the hills here we
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have a war between the religious left
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who wants nothing out there they want to
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put a chain across the roads and plant
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trees down the trails right they don't
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want anybody out there and then of
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course there's the other extreme which
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is the motorized you know mining logging
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right so we have this war going and the
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mountain bikes or someplace in the
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middle of it and all too often we're
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getting you know shut out I I don't feel
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that so the biggest potential for
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urban areas so the urban mountain biking
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areas the ones right on the edge where I
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happen to ride are the ones where
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there's the greatest potential for
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conflict but also the highest number of
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ebikes and I don't see that being a
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long-term happy place either yeah fair
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enough so so it's fair to say there's no
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there's no turnery bike in turn a
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charged or whatever in the works
