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and any future ones so what have we got
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for you in this episode well in May 2020
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we did our first show with Valley Hall
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and Tiba de prayer two Young Guns who
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dominated their junior categories and
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were about to embark on their first
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Elite Seasons then in September 2021 we
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did a follow-up show Tiba had just
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crashed out in Snowshoe and in his
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chances of the first and in his chances
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of a first Elite overall but Valley won
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both snowshoot but Valley one bus
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nursery races to take her title in this
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episode we'll be catching up with them
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both about their 2022 seasons but first
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Emily seagantala it could have been the
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goat talking about 2022 or maybe it was
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Jordan Williams first podcast which made
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the the last episode so popular or maybe
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it was your jet lagged team rumors what
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have you got for us this time
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and I think he was not like teamers you
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mean there were they were true
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wow
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I don't remember what I said I said
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something it was it Andy Corb on on she
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said all kinds of stuff about cam she's
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gonna be furious
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I loved my memory since last episode and
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I also lost my memory of the actual
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episode because I wasn't there because I
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forgot remember yeah yeah yeah so
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um actually
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sleep maybe I'm going to talk about that
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a bit later but I heard something about
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um the no proof
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team yeah okay so obviously
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um Luis Ferguson was a knock proof
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already yeah so I heard it gonna take
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her on
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oh like full time yeah and they might
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take another girl on as well oh wow
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that'd be cool another team with
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multiple
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um female Riders so that's what I've
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heard and I have no confirmation of this
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but I think maybe bear Whitman will
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leave saracen with um
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Harry yeah
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right yeah that's a new one I didn't
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know that
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so that's a big change Always delivering
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George you are delivering that
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Jack have you got have you got any
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um did we talk about that new proof one
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last time because I knew about that I
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think we talked about it
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only after this after we'd finished
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recording okay yeah I could have drawn
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that one in last time I forgot about
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that one I'm [ __ ] for gossip I'm too
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busy I love Gossip dogging me wrong but
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I'm [ __ ] pioneering it because I yeah my
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brains elsewhere but yeah you're right
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it's it's so exciting thinking about who
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could be going where so I was going
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through looking at the final standings
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for 2022 and I picked out a few Riders
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who might be on the radar of pro teams
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so in the women's matild Bernard she was
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making a real impact until she got
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injured I think she was on like a Scot
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team but but not the factory one
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what do you know about her Emmy I think
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she comes from BMX is that is that right
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yeah yeah she's coming for BMX so uh the
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first time I've seen her is when I was
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still on Scots ages ago right she was a
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little kid back then she was like I
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don't know maybe seven eight year old
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yeah just like manually in the whole
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street I like some guys pump track and I
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was like who is that she's like amazing
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skills and I was never seen a girl
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manual that well and she was like eight
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or nine
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and um yeah so she's
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went after BMX she'd like switched to
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mountain biking yeah and also she's
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still very young she's kind of like me
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like a really tiny writer so it's like
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on some tracks it was it works better
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than others and she has a first injury
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as well and um yeah I think she's still
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looking for for a team right and she
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asked me about some contacts and stuff
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and hopefully she can find something I
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think Scott wouldn't take her on because
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they have marine and yeah age difference
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is not very big so I wouldn't plan on
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that but maybe I don't know someone else
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will see she's um
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she's a very young and talented writer
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so it would be good if she finds
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something yeah definitely Louise
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Ferguson we've you've already mentioned
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she got 14th in the overall off I think
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she well she did four races I think but
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the first one didn't qualify just kind
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of finding a favor so 14th off three
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races is is a really good result and
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then there was Anna Newkirk who if I
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remember rightly was Valley's biggest
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competitor in junior there was Anna and
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Millie and yeah
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yeah and I think they have a low budget
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film Center so I think it's it's working
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well for now they have the new Swiss
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brands from ixs Biggs who like is
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developing a new download bike so it's
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pretty
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I think it's it's pretty challenging for
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them to develop that bike with two girls
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I think it's it's a pretty cool project
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so yeah I could see them going going on
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with that excellent so Jack you're a few
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weeks into fatherhood now how's it going
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are you still getting enough sleep
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yeah man it's going really well I did
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just nod off there but
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no I'm kidding yeah it's going great
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um yeah everything's still going really
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well so we're still really enjoying it
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so he's almost on the bike I reckon next
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time you ask me that would have been a
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first ride
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excellent so let me ask you a
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hypothetical question I was looking as I
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say I was looking through the kind of
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results and and
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um if you could have one of these Young
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Riders on on your team next season they
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all finished around 50th in the overall
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as a team manager which one would you
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take so there's Henry Kerr
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pal boss gets Kaya Hearn Guyton these
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and Simon Chapel there which one of them
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would you have and why well it's I've
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got to be careful I'll answer this
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because I'm good friends with four of
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them I don't know Simon I'm sure he's a
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nice lab I've known Henry forever
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because obviously he's from the UK yeah
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um
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I'll I mean I'll level with it I
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actually spoke with Powell a few weeks
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ago right and asked him if he would be
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interested in riding for the team so I
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guess that answers the question he's a
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first year Elite he's had some really
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good results he's shown top 10 Pace
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um he's definitely going places
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but
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with that high top 10 months and Anne
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Henry Kerr almost on the podium at valve
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the soul yeah so for me it would be out
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of those three
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um gay town and Simon are really
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talented as well but yeah um I would be
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choosing from those three the
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interesting thing about Simon is he did
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very little as a junior
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um as a junior he was on um United ride
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oh
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um
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couscous team yeah and
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next to not qualifying quite a lot of
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the time and since kovid he's he's been
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getting some results so it's interesting
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to see that
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um you know it's not always these
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Juniors that are set in the world alike
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that then go on to have
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um professional careers as Elite Riders
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so it's going to be interesting to see
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how he can carry that on
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um
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oh yeah which Emmy if you were to pick
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in one of those which one would you pick
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these hypotheticals uh Power for sure
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yeah it's like it's like my little boy
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crush
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I really like him I think he's we always
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talk to him and we are like I think he's
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always smiling and I don't know he has a
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great personality and he's like so
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like I like his style on a bike and he's
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like a tall guy as well for like a
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junior but I think he like makes most of
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like his
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yeah his teacher and
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yeah I don't know I just like the way he
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rides and I mean the other guys I don't
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know Henry that well and Kai is I'm also
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good friend with his sister but I think
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yeah is my favorite for sure I know
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Henry quite well because he's his dad
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race is in our category at the races
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well he doesn't really rest he hasn't
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really rest since Henry's been on
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propane but shout out to Greg
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um and I think Henry's he's done a bit
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like you jack he's done his degree now
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yeah so I big respect to Ben Reed as
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well for for sticking by Henry while he
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went through University a lot of Team
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managers would have just sacked him off
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um but Ben's supported him on that team
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for four years Henry's got a master's
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degree I believe in engineering but he's
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a switched on kid he's gone all the way
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through his uni while racing alongside
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of it after Miss races for exams and
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stuff and and I believe this year was it
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was either this year or last year was
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his first race fully back on it after
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graduating and it just shows that uh the
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distraction that those qualifications
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put on you by the way he's he's come out
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this year getting the top 20s and
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showing that he is capable of pushing
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the podium so yeah he's a lovely kid
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he's a great graduate some exciting to
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see what he can do moving forward
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without wanting to give anything away
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given that you're trying to pull a team
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together Jack is there anyone else out
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there who you think is is underrated
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they've got all the skills but they
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haven't managed to put it together yet
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or is it just this is racing it's about
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putting it together
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um there definitely will be
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um I'd need to look at a list of names
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because I'm [ __ ] with [ __ ] like that off
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the top of my head but yeah for sure
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there will be some riders in that in
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that Park who
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you know Ronan Dunn was one of them yeah
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until Snowshoe he was always one of the
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most impressive Riders on the track and
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it was always going to be a case of it's
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a matter of time until you know wrecks
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himself or he has that breakthrough
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result and thankfully it was the second
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one so yeah but there will be more and
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uh it's the big problem I have with this
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sport is
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there's just so few places for those
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Riders to be supported and be developed
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and whatever happens with the changes
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from Red Bull into Discovery and Warner
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Brothers taking it over I just hope that
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whether it turns into a kind of Formula
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One formula two kind of system or
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whether they just become more teams able
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to take more Riders I just hope it
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increases the amount of support
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available because it's such a good sport
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there's so many youngsters coming
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through now it's ridiculous I don't have
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time to coach them all like
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if I was in a week to coach and I'm
11:19
rejuvenile news riders that want
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coaching so it's so exciting for the
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sport and it's so sad to think that by
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the time they get to second year Junior
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unless dad's willing to fund it and able
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to fund it yeah they'll just have to
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fade away and it's it's a shame so
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hopefully that'll change yeah and Emmy
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is there anyone you can think of
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um there's a suicider his name is
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Yannick Beckler he's like
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qualified a couple of races uh last year
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this year was injured for most of the
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thing but like he he was like showing
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like top 30 top 40 pace and he has
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literally like no support he was this
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year on like that Scott B team but yeah
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I mean it's still like quite an amateur
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team and
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um yeah this is a bit of a sad story his
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father had big accident
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and he's in a wheelchair now so like it
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was life altering kind of experience
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last winter so I think for him all in
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all it was a really hard situation to be
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in because his father was like very
12:17
active on the motorbike on the bike
12:18
he'll go with him at all the races be
12:20
his mechanic you know so it was a hard
12:22
situation and he didn't make world's
12:25
team as well and I was like well that
12:27
whole [ __ ] storm went the Federation
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happened because I didn't agree with
12:31
that decision and he he showed in value
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so that he could qualify so I think it
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ended up like
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I don't remember but he qualified around
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30 40th so it was it was a good response
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on the bike but um yeah I think he's
12:45
he's working as Austin Dooley as well
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whom yeah the Americans
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uh maybe raw speed I don't know but he's
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very consistent for his age like
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and that's that's very impressive to see
12:57
so it's a bit different than maybe a pal
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which has raw speed but can't really be
13:01
consistent and Austin is the opposite
13:03
and we roll with him in Whistler as well
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so he's like a sweet kid and
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he could be like a very good in the
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future as well you make a fair point
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about Austin the other thing to like
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support what you've just said about the
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consistency raw speed thing is 2021 he
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didn't have that pass so now he's faster
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with consistency so if he makes that
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jump again all of a sudden he's going to
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be knocking on the door in the top ten
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so interesting what you were saying
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before Jack About You Know The Young
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Riders coming through I I never stopped
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believing in Luke Williamson and he won
13:35
the the last National of the year at the
13:36
revs clinched this national series with
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it and I hope that gives him the
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confidence for next season because I
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think there's a rider in there that that
13:43
could be top 30 at World Cups no there
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is for sure like I say this to most of
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the lads our coach and girls I coach
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like
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you know Luke was what was he qualified
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13th or something like that fought with
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him like
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once we all get to that level like me
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and Dan have been riding together for
14:02
three years and if you put the stopwatch
14:03
on it me and Dad will be very similar he
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came 10th at Marigold because that
14:07
weekend everything went well it all
14:09
worked my point is there are so many
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people on that list of about 100 Riders
14:14
who can do it but everything's got to
14:17
align at that time so yeah Luke is fast
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enough Luke can do it but how do you do
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it on the day that's the exciting thing
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about it so in the last episode Jack you
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you announced that you were
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unfortunately a part in Wales with
14:31
common Sal and that other teams were too
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um do you think that might mean the end
14:36
of the common sale 100 team because that
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would that would be quite big news if it
14:40
does
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as far as I'm aware that team is
14:45
is gonna kind of change I think some of
14:48
those Riders are going to go on to a
14:49
common cell team run internally right
14:53
um and whether the the team run by peace
14:57
then becomes a team with different
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sponsors I think that's what's happening
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but that's about as much as I know I
15:03
don't really know who's going where or
15:05
for Who's involved with what but yeah as
15:07
far as I'm aware that team won't look
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the way it does next year well from cam
15:12
I have some influence about that because
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obviously comments are talks and I think
15:16
she's a good friend with them with the
15:18
any guess brothers so
15:20
um I think melee was searching for a
15:22
team because she didn't know if peace
15:24
could go on with another team but come
15:26
and sell is definitely not with peach
15:28
anymore yeah and so
15:30
um I think it was Millie and who else is
15:34
on a team Suarez is leaving I think yeah
15:36
so Angel Suarez Millie and Hugo Frick
15:40
Stallone and then Thomas is stack and
15:41
Greg Williamson
15:43
okay so
15:44
um
15:45
freestyle is going with someone else of
15:49
common salt to the team I think it's uh
15:51
maternity guess maybe and I think it's
15:53
home as well I think maybe all three of
15:55
them are like stylish team and stuff so
15:57
merely
15:59
um is trying to like see if if pitch is
16:01
still be able to put a structure
16:03
together with another brand
16:05
and I know Greg's mechanic and from what
16:07
I'd heard
16:08
Greg's been talking to a large number of
16:12
people about his options and last time I
16:14
spoke with him no decision had been made
16:17
so I'm I know what Greg's like I'm sure
16:20
we'll find something but he knows what
16:21
100
16:23
I was also wondering about Charlie
16:24
Harrison it's been a rough few years for
16:27
it with for him with injuries he was
16:29
eighth at Snowshoe last year but then
16:31
broke his finger at Fort William this
16:33
year and hasn't kind of shared anything
16:35
on Instagram since then I think when
16:37
when Loris joined Trek in 2021 if I
16:40
remember correctly Reese's spot on the
16:42
team was under threat because they were
16:44
they had four Riders
16:47
um which is is quite unusual an American
16:49
brand how important is it to them to
16:52
have an American Rider
16:54
a pivot American yes so you can answer
16:58
that question better than we can well
17:00
you can guess I think the track there's
17:03
a very important to Now American Rider
17:04
and to
17:06
in my opinion it's as a mountain bucket
17:09
it is easier or it's like an advantage
17:12
should be an American Rider on the
17:13
market because most brands are like the
17:16
American Market is very big yeah so
17:18
that's why we had Elliot for years but
17:20
for us it's a bit different because
17:22
pivot gives a like all almost all the
17:25
Liberty to Bernard so Bernard decides
17:28
who he wants to be on the team
17:30
and if someone's American it would be
17:32
better but with the dynamic that we have
17:35
with the kiwis on the team
17:37
and the UK part sometimes
17:41
um yeah you don't need it as much
17:43
because Eddie is like very much credible
17:44
so they found someone English speaking
17:47
that can do the job
17:49
but yeah I don't know about Charlie
17:51
either I've heard rumors is going to
17:53
stop racing I don't know so I remember
17:55
when we had I think it was when we had
17:57
to reset and this was before you even
17:59
joined the podcast Jack it was the end
18:01
of season one I'm sure he said like
18:03
Charlie's Family of firemen or something
18:06
like that and while he's gonna go and be
18:08
a fireman but he's extremely religious
18:11
isn't he and I remember reading posts
18:13
along the way whenever things have kind
18:15
of gone wrong injuries or whatever where
18:17
he's kind of been a bit Nosh long just
18:19
like whatever remember gwinny back in
18:22
the day he always used to say well I
18:25
don't really care I've got God and my
18:27
family and I'm all good and that I get a
18:30
feeling Charlie's a little bit like that
18:33
um and he's as you've said he's had a
18:35
few rough years he might just be looking
18:36
at it and going [ __ ] this I won't do
18:38
this anymore
18:39
because [ __ ] I know how that feels half
18:41
with you last year when my shoulder
18:43
feels like it's gonna fall off my body
18:44
you're like why are you even why am I
18:46
even doing this anymore but I do [ __ ]
18:49
love it so much so I'm I'm gonna keep
18:51
going if I can so but you know he might
18:54
just have enough
18:56
so if either of you heard anything
18:58
further from ESO in the last couple of
19:00
weeks not a thing no
19:03
not Scooby George nobody's gonna [ __ ]
19:05
clue
19:07
we've got to trust the system aren't we
19:09
they're a massive company so
19:11
really random team rumor
19:15
really really random
19:17
win Masters to replace Rob Warner where
19:20
did you hear that I can't remember you
19:22
have too many beers no I don't know
19:24
where I heard it from but it makes sense
19:26
it yeah I mean
19:28
think about what a a muppet Rob was back
19:31
in the freecast today it's a good one
19:32
obviously but with the training he then
19:35
had he's become the Red Bull Rob Warner
19:37
so you win's pretty media Trend already
19:40
so he's got the Charisma as well yeah
19:43
I'm one of the gmbn guys doing it it's
19:45
just no he's got he's got the the race
19:48
knowledge as
19:53
he basically like is interested by it
19:57
everything has to do with our Sports so
20:00
I think you do a good job yeah
20:02
you have a word with that for the next
20:05
episode I could
20:08
talk to each other
20:11
that's a lot of nonsense
20:15
too busy skiing right
20:18
okay and developing houses from what it
20:20
was if you can if you can't call that
20:22
skiing because it's more like doing
20:23
backflips on skis and crashing he's a
20:26
[ __ ] scary in there it's fun enough but
20:28
he just started but they're like these
20:30
these guys are insane they just like
20:32
barely know how to to do a chord like
20:34
yeah just do like double backflip
20:37
Fearless everything he does Fearless
20:39
absolute Legend
20:41
So the big news over here in the UK
20:44
since the last last episode dropped was
20:47
the guys at Revolution announcing the
20:48
closure of the park in January due to
20:51
disease affecting the Japanese Larch
20:53
trees that make up two-thirds of the
20:55
forest yeah it was it's a heartbreaking
20:57
video to watch I was on the first uplift
21:00
the guys ever did in 2011 and I've been
21:03
friends with them ever since and they've
21:05
supported me and the podcast from the
21:07
start and I just wanted to say a big
21:08
thank you to James Sasha Finn Tim Joe
21:11
and Linda for that I was going to do a
21:13
special episode of the Pod with them
21:15
well with them all last year go and
21:17
record it including Rock
21:19
um to celebrate 10 years of the park
21:21
um but like many ideas I have and many
21:24
promises that get made around the
21:25
podcast three it didn't get done but I
21:28
am hoping once the guys have a bit more
21:30
news that we can get that show together
21:31
and talk about the future as well Jack
21:34
you you were at revs yesterday and I'm
21:36
there next weekend tell us a bit about
21:38
about the park and what it means to you
21:41
and why you choose to do so many of your
21:43
coaching sessions there yeah I mean I
21:45
think I was the same as you George I was
21:47
there at the start I don't I think I was
21:49
there on Auckland there but honestly
21:50
that long ago I can't remember
21:53
um just been going there all the time
21:55
and I was I was thinking about this the
21:57
other day because
21:58
when I'm there now I'm usually there
22:00
working
22:01
um and I was standing in the forest so
22:03
that I had got some videos of the kids
22:05
come through and I'm standing next to
22:07
one of my free lap things and just
22:08
looked around the woods and I was like
22:09
[ __ ] this isn't going to be here in like
22:11
two months time and it properly like got
22:13
ultimate because I remember like
22:16
Winters doing laps down Far Side has
22:19
genuinely helped me have the career I
22:22
have had because like in the UK we we
22:24
don't have that many places to do good
22:27
training on the downhill mountain bike
22:28
and over the years between say 2013 and
22:33
covid basically I'd spend a lot of days
22:35
going the revs and just lapping Fireside
22:38
yeah on the GoPro and just doing the
22:40
runs and that kind of value that that's
22:43
given to me is potentially like you know
22:45
a big part of my career and now it's
22:47
obviously helping me coach these future
22:50
young athletes who are going to
22:51
hopefully have great careers themselves
22:52
and to think that from January it's not
22:55
going to be there anymore is is but it's
22:57
what you said it is heartbreaking
22:58
because this is a tiny Sport and there's
23:00
only a few bike parks in the country and
23:02
we're losing one of them so so yeah same
23:04
as yourself huge shout out to everyone
23:06
involved all the staff all the the
23:08
people there and they will be missed
23:11
definitely okay well we we all hope the
23:14
guys can can get something together be
23:16
that in the NOG or or elsewhere as they
23:18
they do sure to sure do produce some
23:20
fantastic Trails on a brighter note
23:22
we'll be back with 2022 Elite women's
23:24
world champion for Valley Hall after
23:26
these messages
23:28
Valentina Hall welcome back to the Pod
23:30
how's it going thanks so good
23:33
excellent straight out of CrossFit
23:35
straight onto the Pod was it was it a
23:38
tough session
23:39
I think so we do lots of metcon right
23:42
now so I'm not used to heavy breathing
23:44
what's metcon which is like a bit more
23:47
endurance based stuff so it's good for
23:50
me though it's fun
23:51
it's fine okay is it does anyone like
23:53
doing CrossFit is is this a Cecile
23:56
Ravenel initiative or is it something
23:58
you know something you've chosen to do
23:59
no I think my mechanic influenced me a
24:02
bit more on that so
24:04
yeah I was surprised I still would never
24:07
do CrossFit so she never really used to
24:10
go to the gym at all
24:11
but she changed a lot like now they even
24:15
go for fun to the gym and uh good it's
24:17
gonna say she looks like that through
24:19
just riding oh yeah that would be
24:22
amazing so you've also been doing some
24:24
dirt jumps with the BMX Champion Morris
24:27
mulders was this just for fun or is that
24:30
part of a bigger plan
24:32
who knows
24:35
[Laughter]
24:37
Rampage here we come
24:40
but I think it's more not Rampage wise
24:43
it's more in the other direction maybe a
24:45
bit
24:46
more hardtail time than
24:49
all right cool
24:51
all right Valley so 2022 then um it
24:54
started pretty well second place at
24:56
taruka and then second place at the Brio
24:58
World Cup in France where you did have a
25:00
mechanical and then you arrived in Lords
25:02
with the number one plate as you're
25:04
going along this Elite Journey
25:07
um you're certainly ticking things off
25:09
already
25:10
um were you happy with where you were
25:11
coming into the 2022 season
25:15
um yeah I mean it was a super early
25:17
start when was it Portugal was in
25:19
February I just woke up in March like
25:22
not a lot of well I guess I had way more
25:25
bike time than I used to have before so
25:28
there was like no excuse to not do well
25:31
um definitely like I was still buzzing
25:33
from from the last rounds in Snowshoe
25:35
and I just wanted to do well and
25:37
maybe put a bit too much pressure like
25:40
add big expectations so um well fourth
25:44
place at the first World Cup was not
25:45
what I wanted to but it was so tight as
25:47
well so honestly I couldn't complain but
25:51
yeah I mean not what I wanted to be
25:54
honest yeah sure did you have a strategy
25:57
coming into the season because we think
26:00
we heard somewhere that you wanted to
26:01
focus more on winning individual races
26:03
rather than just being consistent and
26:05
going for podiums is that true
26:08
um well I guess it just wants to test
26:10
like how far I can push because I don't
26:14
maybe it's a bit it was the wrong
26:16
strategy I think because I still need to
26:19
work on my consistency a little bit more
26:21
but I just wanted to see how much I can
26:24
push but I kind of over pushed it like
26:27
four times in a row and that it really
26:29
sucks that I woke up because you can't
26:31
really do many mistakes because every
26:33
time you you know [ __ ] up a final you
26:35
just have less less options for good
26:39
overalls um yeah
26:42
um I don't really know what I did
26:44
um I think I just had the wrong mindset
26:47
like I wanted to win so bad and wanted
26:50
to impress other people and all my
26:52
sponsors that I somehow just couldn't do
26:55
my race runs okay
26:58
so you just mentioned Lords um you were
27:01
the fastest qualifier and that was with
27:03
the time that would have won the race
27:05
but then you finish fourth 1.6 back
27:08
green at split three but then lost a
27:11
little bit in the final two sectors what
27:13
happened there obviously you were
27:15
disappointed talk us through it
27:17
um well
27:19
such a long time ago I don't know
27:25
it was the first spot in the last Corner
27:27
that's 100 sure I was so scared about
27:29
crashing in the last Corner again yeah
27:31
so I like Slammer breaks super hard and
27:35
yeah I don't know I just
27:37
I did some weird things where every time
27:41
I did well in qualifying I changed lines
27:43
for the next day and I did it in Lord
27:45
again and it didn't work out again so
27:48
maybe that's something I should not do
27:51
in the future like stick to my lines if
27:53
I weren't qualifying and I feel
27:55
comfortable why I change it right yeah
27:57
let's go faster yeah you've answered
27:59
your own question there I think
28:01
okay
28:03
um so second at the national at Fort
28:04
William to mina
28:06
um
28:08
and then from there I think did you have
28:10
a like a week-long trip to dovey bike
28:12
park is that right with Red Bull exactly
28:15
yeah
28:17
big time so I was quite quite shocked
28:21
but uh well it is what it is then we
28:24
went for Red Bull Camp it was the first
28:25
time Rebel hosted this kind of uh
28:27
athlete Camp thing it was quite funny
28:30
because like all the Juniors were
28:32
invited like Phoebe and uh Gracie and
28:36
Rachel was there so the goal was to do
28:39
time runs but it was just the weekend
28:41
before the World Cup in for William so I
28:43
was not really Keen to push and save my
28:46
energy because for William is so
28:48
physical that I did not really wanted to
28:50
push and also I didn't really want to
28:53
get my ass kicked by Rachel
28:56
so it was good for my uh for one
29:00
I guess self-confidence to to not show
29:03
my time and just enjoy riding and have
29:05
fun and do some whips and yeah yeah sure
29:07
have you ridden in the UK much before
29:09
what what did you think to the bike park
29:11
at dummy oh it's like it's my first time
29:13
already at the Derby bike park so um I
29:16
love it it's called The uplifts are
29:18
quick and you have so many different
29:19
tracks to write so it's good I'm going
29:22
going tomorrow I've only been once
29:24
before surprisingly given we're not that
29:26
far away I've only been once as well
29:28
yeah the last time some um one of the
29:30
lads I was riding with Brooke is
29:32
collarbone on the third run so I've
29:33
literally I've done two runs down it so
29:35
I'm most excited for it see what's been
29:38
that long since I've been there it was
29:39
pre-covered yes yes
29:42
they have so many new tracks like it's
29:45
insane yeah
29:47
I'm just always working I just never
29:49
have time
29:50
so even worse
29:53
that has given me more time I don't have
29:55
boobs
29:58
like today I was just like [ __ ] it I'll
30:01
go ride like
30:02
Sarah's got this [ __ ] locked down so I'm
30:04
just yeah it's been great I'm gonna have
30:06
more
30:08
so
30:10
VM I'm a little bit confused here I
30:12
can't remember if it was the national or
30:13
the World Cup I think I saw you at Birth
30:15
but one of them I saw you on Thursday
30:17
and Friday I think if it was the World
30:19
Cup and we chatted briefly and you you
30:21
didn't seem very happy at all
30:24
was that the World Cup I was like the
30:25
national
30:26
probably both
30:28
[Laughter]
30:33
you seated second at the World Cup event
30:35
crashed out in your race run but still
30:38
got fifth
30:40
um tough weekend
30:42
yeah
30:45
I don't know it just crashed again but
30:47
it was my first crash I didn't really
30:49
I didn't really think about it much I
30:51
was just like okay I crashed it's fine
30:53
still on the podium I was not far back
30:55
on for on the top three so that was
30:57
actually thick
30:58
um
30:59
it's also good to know that like even if
31:02
I crash
31:03
just carry on because you can still do a
31:06
decent decent result and when I crashed
31:09
in for William because it was quite
31:10
quite far at the top I was like so
31:12
pissed for like a minute long and
31:14
thought about stopping and if I would
31:16
have carried on it would have been a
31:17
better result but I guess that's what
31:19
you learn I went back and watched it
31:22
before we thought well this afternoon
31:24
and uh you crashed just after you got
31:27
under the gondola wasn't it you do that
31:28
right as you go into the Gambler and it
31:30
was the next left that you went down in
31:32
but you were a bit you had a couple of
31:34
moments just before that it was like it
31:36
carried on and then you you went down
31:38
but you were pushing weren't you
31:40
yeah I tried to have the fastest
31:42
Mercedes-Benz split whatever it is I was
31:45
like I was going so fast because I knew
31:47
Nina would be so fast on this track so
31:50
like I gave it up and it felt sick like
31:52
it was I don't remember like riding that
31:55
fast so it was good until I crashed so
31:57
yeah right when I went I think I went
31:59
and looked at the splits and I think you
32:00
and her were pretty much neck and neck
32:02
until you until you went down so Nina
32:06
put down that was possibly the run of
32:08
the Season about 5 14 down down Fort
32:11
William she seems to have some some
32:13
secret sauce on that track but obviously
32:15
you you've got it as well
32:17
well who knows I mean all the teams like
32:21
SP like I think most of the writers
32:23
spend some times before they woke up on
32:25
this track so I guess the more runs you
32:28
do on it
32:29
the better you are because it's just so
32:31
long and you you can test yourself and
32:33
prepare really well so I wonder how it's
32:35
gonna work for next year and we have
32:37
Wall jumps there
32:38
gonna see some
32:40
really tight race kits and
32:44
you're not wrong
32:46
and you say to August next year so
32:49
everyone's gonna have loads of time to
32:51
practice because normally when it's in
32:53
May it doesn't open that long before so
32:55
there's going to be a lot of people
32:56
there right up until August I imagine I
32:59
wonder if Rachel come back for it I've
33:00
never even considered it until just now
33:03
pretty sure she will but I don't know
33:05
but I have a good feeling she'll try
33:08
she's been strong in the past though
33:11
so yeah
33:12
so
33:14
um you
33:15
a national champ in simmering and I
33:18
think you also you're also national
33:20
champ as a junior
33:23
um I've done national champs this year
33:25
and I think it's a pretty cool yes
33:26
um what does the national title mean to
33:29
you
33:32
um well it's a hard question because I'm
33:34
not really a big fan of our national
33:36
team Federation whatever because well it
33:39
makes two of us
33:41
[Laughter]
33:47
so on one hand I actually don't really
33:50
care it's more like
33:52
I don't know sometimes it's even an
33:54
issue because
33:56
then you need a jersey then you don't
33:58
have the jersey in time you get to find
33:59
better UCI like it did last year then I
34:02
was wearing the national Jersey by
34:04
accident at Nationals so I got another
34:07
fine last year so I got two tons of fine
34:09
for wearing it and not wearing it and I
34:11
was like oh I'm over it so I didn't
34:13
raise last year and then this year I did
34:16
race because we ordered the jerseys
34:18
already with the national sleeve so I
34:20
had to race
34:22
yeah obviously
34:24
how much pressure was that sat in the
34:27
start line knowing the jerseys has
34:28
already been produced well
34:32
it was all right there was not there's
34:35
not so much competition in Austria yet
34:37
but uh in five years it's gonna look
34:39
different because there's some really
34:40
really fast girls coming up and I'm so
34:43
stoked because they're so steezy on the
34:45
bike and finally there's something
34:46
coming and uh it's it's great to see
34:50
yeah we're gonna talk about I think
34:52
we're gonna talk about these camps a
34:53
little bit later
34:55
um coming back to Fort Williams I think
34:57
we talked about that on uh come and Ice
35:00
podcast as well
35:01
um I think you made some changes to your
35:04
bike
35:05
um at four or after Fort William
35:08
um
35:09
what were you looking for what what did
35:12
you what did you do
35:13
yeah so I guess everybody saw that we
35:16
are on some black box products and uh
35:19
it's the first time for me that I get
35:21
involved in all the testing and
35:22
obviously it takes some time to develop
35:25
a good product and probably the first
35:28
few versions are not where it should be
35:31
for World Cup racing
35:33
so I just had to like get used to it and
35:35
yeah I think we were a bit wrong at the
35:39
first two World Cups it was just way too
35:40
stiff for me coming from a 35 to a new
35:42
38.
35:44
being super stiff for for a girl as well
35:47
like a really struggle with arm pump and
35:50
I just couldn't ride I think you can see
35:52
it on the videos pretty well that I'm
35:54
like bouncing off all the Rocks which
35:56
were on that track so uh I struggled a
35:59
lot and then yeah I just gave Matt my
36:02
bike the weekend before before Leo going
36:05
to ride it in a bike park because that's
36:07
what we did when we were on YT here at
36:09
the exact same bike as I had and he
36:11
exactly knew how the bike is is reacting
36:13
and with the new session he didn't had
36:16
the chance to so I just gave him the
36:18
bike and then after the day of riding he
36:20
was like ah now I get it what you mean
36:23
there was a bit of a miscommunication
36:26
for a few weeks but we got that dialed
36:29
and I think at the end of the season we
36:32
also got some some new stuff for for the
36:35
black box and we just uh yeah we worked
36:38
into the right direction we also started
36:40
using the Telemetry system and he could
36:44
react better on my feedback and I was a
36:47
bit more patient and it worked out at
36:49
the end cool
36:52
um then um Leo gang your home Soul race
36:56
um tell us about the pressure that
36:59
brings
37:00
well like everybody knows Leo gang and
37:04
me were best friends that's amazing I
37:06
love it
37:08
like it's so cool and it's nice to have
37:10
a home World Cup like not many people
37:12
get the chance to race at home and it's
37:14
pretty close to home like I know all
37:16
they live people and like the Martians
37:18
on track they all know me and it's fun
37:20
like even some teachers
37:22
the their Marshalls at the weekend so
37:25
it's fun to stop and talk to them but on
37:27
the other hand like there's so much
37:29
pressure like you have all the the media
37:32
there like your face is on every wall
37:33
like everybody expects you to do well
37:35
and I don't know why people expect me
37:38
already to win most of the races I'm
37:42
only 20 but they were already talking
37:45
firstly that I'm gonna win everything
37:47
but I'm but I'm not because I need to
37:49
learn how how to how to race and
37:51
how to get the racecraft so
37:54
yeah I think the home workout was just a
37:56
little bit too much too much for me and
37:59
yeah crashed two times in my race run
38:01
and I was really really devastated like
38:04
it was the first time in my life that I
38:06
cried because of racing I think the last
38:09
time I cried was when I was
38:11
eight when my grandma died so it was
38:13
really I'm not really a
38:17
how you say like I'm not really
38:18
emotional
38:20
and I just broke down and it didn't help
38:22
that my mom was coming into the finish
38:25
and I just couldn't stop crying it was
38:27
insane like I was so sad and then I
38:30
think the week after it was crank Works
38:32
in sprook and I was like so down that I
38:35
didn't even wanted to raise crank works
38:36
like I wanted to go home and stay in bed
38:39
and I don't know just be alone but yeah
38:43
I guess that's something you learn but
38:44
it's also cool that
38:46
sport can
38:48
be so important for you and
38:51
but you can also have super nice moments
38:53
which you know make you forget the sad
38:55
moments it's okay
38:57
of course as the more you commit the
38:59
more you have reward but also the more
39:01
you can be hurt if it doesn't work out
39:04
for sure
39:05
um so you mentioned Innsbruck quack
39:07
Works
39:08
um you won that race
39:11
uh I think Tracy Tracy was racing did
39:14
she win qualifying yeah
39:22
she's gonna win the race
39:25
and then you went to do some AWS
39:29
I got 10th there I know the answer to
39:32
this question but I'm asking anyway
39:36
so how was the first AWS experience and
39:40
also are we going to see you do more of
39:41
this next season oh it's like I think uh
39:44
training with Cecilia Ravenel you can't
39:47
not do an AWS like you will always end
39:50
up pedaling somewhere so it was sick
39:53
like it was also really good for me to
39:55
like turn you know
39:57
put my attention to something else and
40:00
like experience something else and
40:02
yeah face A new challenge because before
40:04
I never did an endure race I did one in
40:06
Israel but it was only like what was it
40:09
like 500 meters climbing so it was not
40:11
not big and it's intense like wow um
40:16
um I definitely did not pedal every time
40:20
there was like apple in the stages I
40:22
just put my seat post up and then later
40:24
I talked to the girls and they were like
40:25
no we were sprinting I'm like oh this is
40:27
your first year
40:29
was enjoying my day
40:32
um but sick like I'm Keen to do more I'm
40:35
actually planning to do the ones in
40:36
March this year in Tasmania and uh I
40:40
think if I prepare for it properly and
40:42
and focus on it I think it can be quite
40:45
fun
40:46
yeah I think when I looked at the uh the
40:49
times and I think you lost like a minute
40:50
or something on the last stage and if
40:53
you haven't I've never done like the
40:55
longest lap I did is for William which
40:57
is like five minutes 20 maybe
40:59
and this one was like 15 minutes like I
41:02
had no idea how to Pace myself like you
41:04
can go for a coffee if you want to yeah
41:07
I don't know
41:08
but if you haven't lost that I think
41:10
you'd have been fifth or sixth something
41:12
like that which would have honestly it
41:14
didn't even check but yeah yeah it went
41:16
a lot I think something about I feel I
41:19
think if it might have been if you'd
41:20
have done the the same as the fastest
41:22
person on that stage you would have come
41:23
from or something like that I didn't go
41:25
into huge detail on it but yeah
41:27
so lensahide big crashing quality but
41:31
when you finish P6 in call event you
41:34
finish P5 in the race but you were 11
41:36
seconds back on Muriel
41:38
tell us about lenser hide well that the
41:41
track was sick I loved it but I had the
41:44
biggest crash in my season in qualifying
41:48
oh my God I don't know what happened
41:50
there it was insane I was like so sore
41:54
and then crashed again in my race run
41:57
and that was the point where I was like
42:00
what the heck is going on like honestly
42:02
I have no idea like I was questioning
42:05
myself so much like I was beating up
42:08
myself so much because
42:10
why is it happening like what I am doing
42:12
wrong
42:14
and I did not know the answer and I was
42:16
so yeah I was so pissed and over it that
42:20
I just had no more expectations coming
42:22
in sondor like nothing I was just
42:24
cruising in Andorra and like I didn't
42:27
give a [ __ ] about any results anymore
42:29
because it's gonna be [ __ ] anyway so
42:32
but it wasn't so no I mean you
42:35
so you've done four races like you said
42:38
you third in the overall but you've been
42:40
fourth fifth sixth and fifth
42:42
did you lose heart at all well it sounds
42:45
like from what you're saying you did
42:46
lose heart and what what what effect did
42:49
that have
42:50
did it free you up or did it
42:53
yeah definitely because before the
42:56
season I always write down a plan like
42:59
what my expectations are and first race
43:01
should be top five which I was and the
43:04
next one should be top three and I was
43:06
like even out of the top five
43:08
and it was just not going going where I
43:12
plan and I never really
43:13
had that happening like okay last season
43:16
was kind of the same I struggled but it
43:18
was my first probe Elite season because
43:20
the first year I was injured so it was
43:22
like a learning process I thought second
43:24
year easy now I know how to do it no I
43:27
don't know how to do it and
43:29
yeah
43:31
I was just so over it I don't know if if
43:34
you would talk to my parents or or to
43:38
Cecil you would they would I don't know
43:40
I was just
43:41
so down like I was so tired of it of of
43:45
wanting to do well and wanting to show
43:48
everyone I think the biggest problem for
43:50
me was that I wanted to show everyone
43:52
that I earned this spot in the World Cup
43:54
like I earned my repo helmet I run to be
43:57
here
43:58
that I didn't really
44:00
care about what I really want to do and
44:03
I just want to ride my bike fast and
44:06
I guess in Andorra that's just what I
44:08
did because I had no expectations and I
44:10
was so tired of what other people could
44:12
think
44:13
that suddenly I was just
44:15
you know riding free
44:19
nice so as you just said on door
44:22
everything did change for you
44:24
um just to recap that fourth and
44:25
qualifying and then you went seven
44:27
seconds faster in your race run
44:29
getting your first win of the season
44:32
um
44:33
how did that feel when you crossed the
44:35
line and you got that win
44:37
I was I didn't really when I crossed the
44:39
line I was just so stoked to Not Crash
44:41
okay where it's run after four runs
44:44
without crashing which is which felt
44:46
amazing but it didn't really thought
44:48
about like the result and then yeah
44:51
obviously Miriam crashed out she she was
44:55
faster the last split before it crashed
44:56
but
44:58
yeah that's that's how it is that's how
45:00
racing goes and I was I was stoked to to
45:03
win because it felt so great and the
45:06
cooler part actually before was that our
45:07
Junior Tegan we got third so it got the
45:10
first time on the podium and just the
45:13
yeah how happy he was like really
45:16
influenced me and I really wanted to
45:17
have the same and feel the same
45:19
happiness like he did and I think just a
45:21
good momentum that I brought up to the
45:24
Stargate like helped me to write
45:26
smooth and fast I guess nice did you
45:30
like the new tracking on door
45:33
um actually not really it's like scary
45:36
because you need to go so fast and it's
45:38
so loose and there's nothing really
45:41
technical it's like I prefer the old one
45:43
way more but we will see what they do
45:46
for work jumps there but I don't know I
45:48
would prefer a bit more Tech to be
45:51
honest yeah okay so Snowshoe I think you
45:54
described your performance as slow as
45:57
[ __ ] is that correct
45:59
oh man it was so wild I didn't crash
46:02
when I was actually sick yeah for sure
46:05
um you were 11 back on came and seeding
46:08
and 16 back in your race but I mean they
46:12
they were insanely difficult conditions
46:14
Greg last week said it's the greasiest
46:16
conditions he's ever known did you find
46:19
it really difficult I mean we all did I
46:20
think right yeah it was insane like I
46:23
had no no practice run where I like
46:26
finished without like going offline or
46:28
crashing I got it was insane and also
46:31
like I just can't ride ruts like I don't
46:34
know how it works and I don't know like
46:37
I also feel like every time I'm like
46:40
overwhelmed with a racetrack I totally
46:42
forget about working on my suspension
46:45
okay and that's also something I need to
46:47
think about next year like even if I
46:49
struggle on track so try to dial the
46:52
bike because
46:53
we didn't touch the bike once and maybe
46:55
it could have helped me to write better
46:57
in the greasy conditions but yeah also
46:59
something I had to learn and like I mean
47:02
everybody knows Kami is a queen in the
47:04
mud so it's it's impressive and I hope I
47:07
can improve a little bit more on that as
47:08
well
47:10
so then we moved on to Monson and
47:12
obviously Kami had broken a collarbone
47:15
Miriam crashed in qualifying and you won
47:17
that by nearly 14 seconds that must have
47:21
given you a nice confidence boost after
47:22
the week before I was sick like I just
47:25
love the tracking
47:27
track is so cool when we had trackwork I
47:29
was a bit scared when they added the
47:31
extra section because I thought oh my
47:33
God the race only is going to be six
47:34
minutes long
47:35
actually my first time around was like
47:38
five minutes 40 or something I was like
47:40
oh my God this is gonna be so hard but
47:42
then yeah yeah I nearly went a minute
47:45
faster in my race run which is which is
47:48
kind of cool to see and also for I think
47:51
for a young athlete it's pretty cool to
47:54
win uh a race track like Andorra for
47:57
example but also to be good in in
48:00
Mountain Land because it's so physical
48:01
it's so long and people normally think
48:04
ah they don't have the experience or
48:06
blah blah or the fitness and for me
48:08
which was so cool like I really enjoyed
48:10
the racetrack nice just so you know um I
48:14
have quite a lot of tracks that are six
48:15
minutes long
48:21
Fort Williams nearly seven now the first
48:23
time I want to announce probably like 6
48:25
32 or something is it my first year the
48:30
crash a few times I couldn't hold up
48:31
honestly I honestly I think about those
48:33
the girls or whoever like is racing
48:36
because it's like so hard so physically
48:39
yeah
48:40
to hold on your handle but we're like
48:42
six minutes it's insane I think they
48:44
deserve also a price for surviving so
48:48
yeah I had I hadn't raced since well
48:51
last season and my first race this year
48:53
was the national at Fort William and I
48:54
haven't had any bike time or anything
48:56
and it was just it was just horrendous
48:58
it was just I'd done no gym no nothings
49:01
for all the off season no exercise
49:04
whatsoever and then just turned up at
49:06
Fort William with a bike and you it it
49:10
was just stupid I don't know why I did
49:11
it because I didn't really enjoy it but
49:13
it was like an achievement how do you
49:17
hold on like you're not struggling with
49:19
like arm pump because like every time I
49:21
come to Fort William like I can barely
49:22
hold on my elbow so it goes very slowly
49:25
down
49:29
it's not quite that bad but it was and
49:33
in my seeding run I was like I could not
49:35
I honestly don't know if I can do a full
49:37
run without stopping and then I went
49:39
that slowly that as I came through
49:42
um you know that bit where the wall ride
49:44
is near the bottom yeah I actually
49:46
thought to myself I'm not even out of
49:47
breath here this year
49:51
and I'll cross the line and it was this
49:53
the time was awful it was like seven
49:55
minutes or something it's terrible but
49:58
yeah wait you did it though yeah
50:01
okay so dipping back to Montana
50:03
um you were obviously then last woman
50:05
down with after the great quality uh
50:07
taking your second win and it did look
50:09
very composed Miriam had gone early did
50:13
you know she'd flattered before you
50:14
dropped in or not told you yeah so when
50:18
I rolled to the Stargate Matt looked at
50:20
his phone and looked to me and looked at
50:22
his phone and I was like oh my God
50:23
there's some information and then Matt
50:26
was like looking like looking at his
50:28
phone looking to me he's like do you
50:30
want to have some information he's like
50:31
well of course I want to have some
50:33
information if you're looking on your
50:34
phone all the time so like he told me
50:37
that uh Miriam had a flat tire and I
50:40
didn't just ride like I did last like
50:42
yesterday before and I didn't know that
50:46
Nina was going so fast
50:48
that was like riding like super smooth I
50:51
had so much fun but then I was like
50:53
thinking oh maybe I go too slow maybe I
50:55
need to go faster maybe I need to
50:56
because so I was like thinking so much
50:58
in my race run and then when I crossed
51:00
the line it was only three seconds
51:03
so it's always like you never know if
51:05
you could have pushed out or not like
51:06
honestly like you always try to give
51:08
your best but it's not helping to to
51:11
kind of know that
51:13
if you write well you can actually win
51:16
but you're not allowed to go too slowly
51:19
because everybody else is pushing so
51:20
hard as well so yeah yeah I was stoked
51:22
because it was also the first time I was
51:24
like doing welding quality and not
51:26
[ __ ] up my restaurant so
51:29
nice yeah Cami always said that it's the
51:32
best feeling when you qualify first and
51:33
then you win the race as well because
51:35
then when you cross the line you know
51:36
give one now so that's pretty special
51:39
yes if you came into Worlds week with uh
51:42
also a very blank bike you always have
51:44
kind of sick bikes for this one as well
51:46
pretty sick
51:48
um does that help you like to get your
51:50
number at hospice to have like a sick
51:52
bike and a sick kit for worlds
51:55
um I actually don't really like having a
51:57
new bike because it's all new and it's
51:59
like I don't know I'm always scared
52:02
about scratching stuff and also like I
52:05
don't want to have all the attention
52:07
like I don't really like you know like
52:10
having those articles about my bike and
52:12
blah blah because then for me I still
52:14
feel like a yeah it just puts a bit more
52:17
pressure on me and people have
52:19
expectations
52:20
so I kind of prefer to not after but I
52:24
guess now it doesn't really help like
52:26
you can't avoid it and it's sick though
52:28
like
52:28
all my sponsors put so much work in it
52:31
to make me look cool every single race
52:33
and really appreciate it
52:35
well I mean you're not the only one to
52:37
have a brand new
52:39
uh sick bike so I think it's only right
52:41
that you get one everyone gets one
52:43
almost so um even I used to get one and
52:46
I was like a pencils you know you
52:49
deserve one Valley don't worry for
52:52
example we
52:53
so many bikes like nearly every every
52:56
third race we got a new yeah this I
52:58
understand that I can understand your
53:00
point I could think but you don't like
53:03
when you have like a slow start to the
53:06
season you're like oh I I don't want to
53:07
have all the new stuff like give me some
53:10
when I'm doing well so yeah it's all
53:13
right yeah I understand what you mean so
53:15
what was you see the seated forth
53:18
um Miriam in a great run you're like
53:20
eight seconds back on her
53:23
um so we talked about you racing on your
53:26
uh in front of your home crowd in in Leo
53:28
gang but there was different like how
53:31
was it for you to race in front of the
53:33
crowd that was like cheering your main
53:36
competitor
53:38
um for me it was fine like it felt like
53:41
so much better than like racing in yoga
53:43
obviously you don't have so much media
53:46
attention you still have to do a lot of
53:47
stuff but it's not as bad as as it was
53:51
for Miriam obviously there was a lot of
53:53
pressure on her and I felt like I was a
53:56
bit piano dog also qualifying didn't
53:58
really go my way but also is watch him
54:01
so it's it's always like you don't
54:03
really care but you do care if you're so
54:05
far behind because I thought I had a
54:07
good run but then I saw the time I was
54:08
like nope it was not a good run sir had
54:11
a lot of work to do on this Racetrack
54:14
and yeah I had Batman memories from last
54:17
area because I crashed in the last
54:18
corner and had a concussion and stuff
54:20
like that so I don't know I just really
54:22
tried to to work on the track and spend
54:25
time on it and
54:27
yeah that's what I did on the extra day
54:29
of practice so yeah I was literally we
54:32
tested all the time when I was like
54:34
walking the track and filming she was
54:35
always there and yeah so obviously I see
54:39
you right and you look good all all
54:41
around and literally found 10 seconds
54:43
from qualifying to Eurasia and said like
54:46
that's a pretty crazy um Improvement
54:50
and you are also fastest on the first
54:52
three sectors so that's not unusual for
54:56
you to be fastest at the top of a track
54:59
um what's the plan to like go full gas
55:02
and try to hold on to the end or what is
55:05
the strategy going into the Run no there
55:08
was no plan at all
55:10
[Laughter]
55:13
I mean I always used to have a plan like
55:15
it's crazy like people just go I'm just
55:17
gonna raise my run
55:20
so that's okay yeah
55:23
every time I had a plan I [ __ ] it up
55:26
anyway so I was like it's just words
55:28
like you know there's another chance
55:31
next year whatever I don't really care
55:33
blah blah
55:34
I don't know then I went to this Target
55:37
and it was kind of chilled and then
55:41
I was hoping for a medal but in my head
55:44
it was more like a third place metal
55:46
kind of style
55:47
and when I was in the gate 10 seconds
55:51
before Matt normally Matt says nothing
55:54
and he was like get them that's what he
55:57
said
55:58
and then suddenly my brain switched and
56:01
I was like so into like [ __ ] yeah let's
56:04
go I don't care if I crash like
56:06
and then I was going so fast there's
56:09
like one section where you're like a
56:11
compression and you go steep down and
56:13
like you hit the burn like I felt so sad
56:16
that one oh it was so cool and I was
56:19
actually like four seconds up and then I
56:21
lost like nearly all the four seconds at
56:23
the last place because they're like okay
56:24
I hated those bike parts it was like a
56:27
steep bit with like Park turrets I lost
56:29
like quite a lot there and like
56:32
I always did the jumps fine in practice
56:35
like always perfect in my restaurant
56:37
like a case demo so it was a bit you
56:41
explain the best looking on those ones
56:43
to be honest from everybody else
56:45
like yeah but I cased it like I even
56:47
ripped my pants so I was scared but you
56:51
still like by Ma is like the best
56:54
looking girls on the bottom jumps for
56:55
sure no thank you so yeah across the
56:59
Finish didn't crashing last turn great
57:01
and there was still
57:03
coming yeah coming was still on top I
57:06
guess
57:07
yeah
57:09
yeah
57:10
just close my eyes and waited until calm
57:13
and finished and
57:15
suddenly I was world champion
57:17
yeah so tell us a bit what what
57:20
does it mean to you to be
57:22
to win worlds in the Elite field because
57:24
obviously you weren't was before but
57:27
that must have been pretty special
57:29
no it's it's sick because it was like so
57:32
unexpected like I said I it was not on
57:36
my agenda because
57:39
it I thought it's gonna happen when I'm
57:41
like I don't know maybe 24 25 like you
57:45
know I'm a bit more mature and
57:47
I've I don't know I didn't expect it
57:50
coming with with 20 so it's
57:53
I'm stoked like I'm not gonna give it
57:55
away like I'm happy I'm keeping it and I
57:59
don't know Stripes stay forever and I
58:01
also feel like it's insane how much
58:03
attention you get from people for
58:05
winning trust One race and your world
58:07
champion and when I won the overall last
58:10
year obviously there was a bit of black
58:11
involved but there's way less attention
58:14
on winning the overall even though for
58:16
an athlete it's so much
58:19
better and like if you're doing the
58:22
overall you're the best writer in the
58:23
world and if you want to watch and you
58:24
just perform really well on that one day
58:26
so it's kind of a hard Mission but the
58:29
media laws World Champs so whatever it's
58:32
sick like I like it
58:34
no it's true I noticed that with Cami as
58:36
well like in Switzerland everyone talked
58:38
about her when she won worlds and this
58:40
year after the overall it was way less
58:43
um blessed media so yeah you're totally
58:45
right on that so after watching there
58:48
was still a race that's also a little
58:49
bit unexpected to have a
58:51
woke up finding out the finals after the
58:54
war Champs
58:55
um he was second in your role
58:58
um your frustration The Strife
59:00
supplement that must have been pretty
59:01
cool
59:03
um so you weren't a star gate and I
59:05
don't know if you knew I guess maybe you
59:07
knew that if you when you take the
59:09
overall
59:10
but if you get seconds you won't
59:14
and I guess it was so pretty drained
59:16
afterwards week so tell us a bit about
59:18
this experience that moment well maybe
59:20
I'll tell you first a little story that
59:22
I think I'm the only world champion who
59:24
didn't party at the welcome party
59:26
because I was puking them you were sick
59:29
no or something
59:31
so like two hours after the world Champs
59:33
Podium I just started puking and spent
59:36
the whole night on the toilet and died
59:39
there was like a year a weird virus
59:41
going on in this year and a few teams
59:44
headed before or during the week and my
59:46
whole team had it during the week and I
59:49
was so scared to get it just on race day
59:51
and like I just got it like two hours
59:54
after the podium and I was like I was
59:56
like already changed to go to the party
59:59
I even went to the party and then I had
1:00:00
to rush back because I was so sick yeah
1:00:03
I remember that yeah
1:00:06
and I was like what
1:00:10
so yeah I didn't celebrate my world
1:00:12
Champs party which was really really sad
1:00:15
and yeah I was just so
1:00:19
tired coming into Valley so like there
1:00:21
was so much going on like so much media
1:00:24
attention I had to do so many interviews
1:00:25
on the way to Valley Sole and I had no
1:00:29
time to kind of process what just
1:00:30
happened because yeah we packed together
1:00:33
the next day and was like so
1:00:35
still super tired in fact the day after
1:00:38
and then we already had to go to Valley
1:00:40
Sole and I had to do so many phone calls
1:00:43
and interviews and it's sick because I
1:00:45
really enjoyed this kind of stuff but
1:00:48
also to be honest like I didn't care
1:00:51
about the last World Cup obviously yes
1:00:53
you want to do well I knew there was a
1:00:54
chance
1:00:55
but I had my stripes like that was so so
1:00:58
cool and I always said it anyway like
1:01:01
Tommy deserved overall 100 even before
1:01:04
the crash because she was she's writing
1:01:07
so so well
1:01:08
and yeah I don't know valisole was the
1:01:11
gnarliest drug I've ever seen and I ever
1:01:14
had to write that it was so so rough
1:01:16
like I've never I've not been scared but
1:01:19
it was not fun to ride at all like it
1:01:21
was so [ __ ] and I don't know I cruised
1:01:25
down in qualis and then I think Pom-Pom
1:01:28
had a flat tire Nina as well and
1:01:30
Tommy didn't even start or they should
1:01:33
just like yeah she just went for the
1:01:34
gate
1:01:35
and then like I had to start last and it
1:01:38
was sick like it could where my my
1:01:40
rainbow stripes and stuff and but I was
1:01:43
so tired like I think the virus and just
1:01:45
mentally I was so drained that I was
1:01:49
just losing time at the end of the track
1:01:51
and I just didn't want to get hurt and
1:01:53
came into of course my result at the end
1:01:56
I don't even heard I think oh yeah so I
1:01:58
got third it was for the neural and I
1:02:01
was just happy to be alive and and that
1:02:04
the season was over and then we had a
1:02:07
sick party and the day after I was sick
1:02:09
for two months now so great right into
1:02:13
the season
1:02:15
um I think you said
1:02:17
and tell me if I'm wrong but um valisol
1:02:20
is one of your least favorite tracks
1:02:23
is that right
1:02:24
yeah I think when we I know yeah feeling
1:02:28
you didn't really enjoy it as much as
1:02:31
the others but I think was it the only
1:02:33
one in your Junior ones where you didn't
1:02:34
win or something like that
1:02:36
that's why I don't like it
1:02:39
I don't know I think that's what I said
1:02:41
but I wanted the first first year but no
1:02:44
I actually really like it because I
1:02:46
prefer more technical tracks because I
1:02:48
feel like I can do better on them than
1:02:49
on like
1:02:51
fast forward ones and yeah I don't know
1:02:56
maybe because I crashed in World Champs
1:02:58
hard and I struggled at the same section
1:03:00
a bit and
1:03:01
I don't know I think you really need to
1:03:03
find the groove and turn your brain off
1:03:06
a little bit which I still can't really
1:03:08
do yet
1:03:10
well I just need to be confident with
1:03:12
riding faster on all your stuff I guess
1:03:14
that's how I should do it so you've
1:03:17
already kind of answered my next
1:03:19
question and I'm quite surprised about
1:03:20
it because my next question was going to
1:03:22
be cami's been super consistent this
1:03:24
season until the crash she's racing
1:03:27
valdi solo with a double plated
1:03:29
collarbone did any part of you think
1:03:31
[ __ ] cam deserves to win this and I was
1:03:34
I was thinking she's gonna say no no no
1:03:37
I want it but you were pretty you did
1:03:40
things you should win it the overall I
1:03:42
even said it like before like before she
1:03:45
crashed because like just the
1:03:46
consistency is insane and to be honest
1:03:49
I'm a bit jealous with their consistency
1:03:50
because I just can't do it I just keep
1:03:53
crashing all the time and it's so cool
1:03:56
because also I think mentally she's like
1:03:58
so confident and I am definitely not and
1:04:03
I guess that just comes with with
1:04:05
experience and routine and
1:04:07
just like to find your mojo I guess if
1:04:10
you if you're happy you're riding really
1:04:12
well and that's something I
1:04:14
I really admire yeah because also with
1:04:17
with it's interesting to see with uh
1:04:20
Pom-Pom like she's also quite often on
1:04:22
the edge like she's also crashing quite
1:04:24
a lot even though she's the same age as
1:04:26
Kami and Kami just keeps writing her
1:04:28
thing and it it's always good and
1:04:31
perfect and it's cool like if you can
1:04:34
find that
1:04:35
the perfect
1:04:37
how do you say like your perfect way to
1:04:40
ride it's it's amazing and yeah I I
1:04:43
didn't find it yet maybe I found it a
1:04:45
few times this season but
1:04:47
yeah consistency would be great
1:04:53
okay so I mean we've talked about it a
1:04:55
lot already but yourself Cam and Miriam
1:04:57
you've been in a little group of your
1:04:59
own this year and you all certainly got
1:05:01
something out of the Season uh cam won
1:05:04
the overall you a world champion and as
1:05:07
you said you got your stripes and Miriam
1:05:10
won the final round in valder Saw to
1:05:12
finish the season on the high for her to
1:05:14
put the win alongside her lenser hide
1:05:16
win
1:05:17
um
1:05:17
looking ahead to next year do you think
1:05:20
it'll be the three of you at the top
1:05:21
again or do you see oh we should not
1:05:23
forget about Nina Nina was like second
1:05:25
the last few races you know and Nina is
1:05:27
so strong and she's still like
1:05:30
really improving her writing skills
1:05:32
because
1:05:34
um
1:05:35
a dangerous one yeah it's gonna be gonna
1:05:39
be tough even if Maureen and Tanya
1:05:41
coming back like it's a pre-packed top
1:05:44
five already and
1:05:46
then we have the Juniors coming up
1:05:48
Phoebe and Gracie and Jenna and uh
1:05:53
yeah I'm cover so um it's going to be
1:05:55
hard for some of the older Elite Riders
1:05:57
to actually stay stay in and qualify
1:06:00
that's why I retired
1:06:01
[Laughter]
1:06:03
at the right time and also like I can't
1:06:06
wait to see some
1:06:09
style in the restaurants because like
1:06:11
the new generation they have some good
1:06:13
stuff like it's gonna be sick to watch
1:06:15
yeah for sure do you feel like
1:06:19
um
1:06:19
Nina and
1:06:21
um oh my brain's gone dead who else did
1:06:24
you just mention French been injured
1:06:25
marine marine yeah thank you do you feel
1:06:29
like um Nina and Maureen are kind of a
1:06:31
little bit like yourself in the the pace
1:06:34
is there and it's just waiting for that
1:06:37
consistency and finding the Rhythm and
1:06:39
then all of a sudden they'll they'll
1:06:41
start getting success as well well I
1:06:43
feel like Nino is consistent she only
1:06:46
crashed the first two races and then she
1:06:48
was there all the time like
1:06:51
it's it's uh yeah
1:06:54
scary
1:06:55
they're all so good but they all they
1:06:58
all have that confidence like it's so
1:07:00
cool to see him and also what I really
1:07:02
like about like Nina that she's so happy
1:07:05
for other people to do well as well like
1:07:07
when when I won months and then or World
1:07:11
Champs like she was so happy for me and
1:07:13
I was like oh my God like it's so cool
1:07:15
it isn't happy for me because obviously
1:07:17
I still struggle with that but I guess
1:07:19
it's just the way I am it's my
1:07:22
personality and I I'm happy for everyone
1:07:24
doing well but first I need to like
1:07:26
finish process what I just did and then
1:07:28
I can be happy for someone else yeah and
1:07:31
you know it's just like a super happy
1:07:32
happy human being and uh with Marine
1:07:35
like I didn't really see her watch
1:07:38
racing since I'm in Elite last season
1:07:41
last season she was also injured so yeah
1:07:44
she was consistent When Rachel was there
1:07:46
right like she was up there yeah
1:07:50
it was starting to build for sure yeah
1:07:53
so
1:07:55
yeah it guided that crashes a lot so
1:07:57
whether she's getting injured or not
1:07:59
like change she just crashed and didn't
1:08:01
get injured and after she crashed in
1:08:03
getting all the time so yeah we'll see
1:08:06
how long she takes to mentally get
1:08:08
strong
1:08:09
yeah and then maybe Rachel coming back
1:08:12
for some races that would be sick well
1:08:14
imagine it's gonna be super sick
1:08:17
so yeah wow it's um it so surprised me
1:08:21
but you're still only 20 years old if
1:08:24
you look at the last two seasons what
1:08:26
you've been through and what you've
1:08:27
achieved
1:08:28
all the people well not all of them yeah
1:08:31
all the people you've mentioned that
1:08:32
you're racing now probably would put
1:08:34
them as part of kind of Rachel's
1:08:35
generation you know Tony Marine maybe
1:08:40
not Nina but Miriam
1:08:42
um and cami's the same age as as Miriam
1:08:46
um
1:08:47
tell us a bit about the talent coming
1:08:49
through because people When Rachel was
1:08:51
racing in it people said
1:08:54
um we're never going to see this level
1:08:55
of domination again and I think we are I
1:08:59
think you're gonna dominate like Rachel
1:09:01
did but tell us
1:09:03
I don't think you quite think about that
1:09:05
idea so tell us about what you think
1:09:07
about the the people coming through I
1:09:10
mean
1:09:12
I mean it's just like two year and I
1:09:14
think I said
1:09:15
did I sorry that's fine like I I don't
1:09:19
know for me it feels like
1:09:21
I don't I never really thought about it
1:09:25
because I'm still struggling so much
1:09:27
with with myself and like having like a
1:09:30
proper race weekend that I never thought
1:09:32
about like
1:09:34
maybe doing like a perfect season like
1:09:37
she did I think it's so hard at the
1:09:38
moment because
1:09:40
even I think if Rachel had not a great
1:09:42
race run she still won for like nowadays
1:09:46
it's like impossible if you don't get
1:09:49
your
1:09:49
100 or like your race run you're not
1:09:52
gonna win I think maybe someone else is
1:09:55
crashing out and then then you're lucky
1:09:57
to win but
1:09:59
maybe you're then second because someone
1:10:00
else is going to be better and just I
1:10:03
think the field is so much more stacked
1:10:06
and the level is so much higher that
1:10:09
it's gonna be really really hard like
1:10:11
for sure so that's something I want to
1:10:14
ask you Vali we've we've we're hearing a
1:10:17
lot that you're having to work quite
1:10:20
hard on your own mental feelings at the
1:10:24
races and feeling like you've got um
1:10:26
what it takes to do what you want to do
1:10:28
and you've said that
1:10:30
other athletes have this confidence that
1:10:32
you don't feel like you have
1:10:34
do you feel it makes it harder for you
1:10:37
to have that with all the pressure
1:10:38
that's put on you externally because
1:10:40
ever since you were a junior people have
1:10:42
talked about how successful you're going
1:10:44
to be and as with George's questions
1:10:47
just asked suggesting that you'll be
1:10:50
super consistent and whatever the next
1:10:53
big athlete do you feel like it makes it
1:10:55
harder for you to just get your head
1:10:56
down and do your thing with all this
1:10:58
external Buzz yeah for sure first like I
1:11:02
thought I don't really feel it but now I
1:11:05
definitely do because I know how people
1:11:08
are are talking or writing stuff on the
1:11:12
internet and it's like yeah but now like
1:11:14
I already have all the titles you can
1:11:16
have so it's like I take them all off
1:11:18
like are you happy now that's why you
1:11:21
know
1:11:23
I probably didn't think it until this
1:11:26
you won worlds this season and the
1:11:28
reason I think it is because like worlds
1:11:30
is such a confidence thing
1:11:32
it you look at who wins in the men's for
1:11:36
example loik and Greg I'm sure it's to
1:11:38
do with once you've won it it relieves
1:11:40
the pressure you can sit in the start
1:11:41
gear and you don't have that that
1:11:43
pressure on you and you've in your first
1:11:47
two seasons you've won the two big
1:11:48
prizes for other races to get even get
1:11:51
there the Juniors to get there they're
1:11:53
not going to do it in the first two
1:11:54
seasons they're not going to do it
1:11:56
but not certain times like Jackson and
1:11:59
Jordan are in the men's and that would
1:12:00
podium in in the women's the ones that
1:12:03
are coming through I'm not saying
1:12:04
they're not going to be competitive but
1:12:06
they're not doing what you did yeah and
1:12:08
and that's why I think I you can see it
1:12:10
it's almost like they've got you're just
1:12:12
gonna get you know when you get to your
1:12:14
Peak you're just going to get stronger
1:12:16
you might have two or three World titles
1:12:18
or overalls by the time you get there
1:12:20
and you're going to get that confidence
1:12:22
that Rachel had of going out and like it
1:12:25
doesn't matter whether I almost win or
1:12:27
not because I've got these other wins
1:12:29
behind me and that's why I think you'll
1:12:32
you'll dominate I mean you're only 20.
1:12:34
it's
1:12:36
you live in it every day but when you
1:12:39
kind of step out of it you can see it
1:12:40
building up and you've done so much it's
1:12:43
it's it's really exciting but you're
1:12:45
excited about the future
1:12:47
the kids are going through sure yeah I
1:12:49
feel like I've I had to talk with Sven
1:12:52
with our photographer and it was really
1:12:54
cool because like see value now you take
1:12:56
the wall the the titles you can get now
1:12:59
you can just write like you can like you
1:13:01
don't have to think about winning those
1:13:04
things now it's just like [ __ ] ride
1:13:07
and I just yeah I had no energy in value
1:13:10
so let's do this but uh I think the next
1:13:13
few years is going to be exciting I'm
1:13:15
just gonna improve more in Italy like
1:13:17
I'm gonna get stronger and fitter and
1:13:19
yeah I yeah just I feel like I found my
1:13:23
mojo at the end of the season and I hope
1:13:25
this just continues going on and like I
1:13:28
can't wait it's gonna be sick yeah do
1:13:30
the nice thing for you is you can look
1:13:32
back at the last two years knowing that
1:13:34
you've achieved the World Cup overall
1:13:36
and the World Championships having not
1:13:39
ridden and raised how you want to
1:13:42
both seasons and you've still managed to
1:13:44
do it so
1:13:46
you can now do exactly what you've just
1:13:48
said you can go on and have the career
1:13:50
you want to have a race in the way you
1:13:52
want to knowing that you've already
1:13:53
ticked those things off and you can just
1:13:55
enjoy it pressure can almost like filter
1:13:58
away now
1:13:59
I hope so that's the way to look at it
1:14:02
because you've already done it how long
1:14:05
have you got run left to run with track
1:14:08
s uh we have one more season with Trek
1:14:10
yeah cool flowers um brand manager I'd
1:14:15
be I you would be the number one person
1:14:17
to try and sign
1:14:20
yeah so it talks about them
1:14:24
your thoughts about the future of Ali
1:14:26
with
1:14:27
um ESO discovery
1:14:29
and everything
1:14:31
um
1:14:32
yeah what do you think of the whole
1:14:33
situation what's your vision for the
1:14:36
for next year and the years to come
1:14:38
well obviously um I'm a bit brainwashed
1:14:42
by Rebel so everything I do is amazing
1:14:44
and I really loved it because I mean
1:14:47
that's how I grew up also like the first
1:14:49
time I watched Donald racing was on
1:14:51
Rebel TV so that's the only thing I know
1:14:52
so obviously I am a bit scared because
1:14:56
yeah I don't know if it's gonna work or
1:14:58
not or if my grandparents can still
1:15:01
watch it or if they need to find a
1:15:03
different way to watch it and also
1:15:05
commentary I mean the Lost Road Warner
1:15:07
so that's gonna be really painful for
1:15:10
the the age Community because he was
1:15:12
just the voice of the age it's yeah it
1:15:15
is what it is like everybody knows that
1:15:18
and also like a lot of my friends
1:15:20
austrians and Germans they're always
1:15:22
watch it in English because it's just
1:15:24
way more exciting than like listening to
1:15:26
a German
1:15:27
uh commentary so yeah I don't I don't
1:15:32
really know like I really like to see
1:15:34
that there's a bigger brand stepping
1:15:36
into and you know it's going to be maybe
1:15:38
more interesting for other sponsors
1:15:40
outside of the industry like the right
1:15:43
maybe we can get like
1:15:46
you know better salary like make it more
1:15:48
exciting bring it closer to to the
1:15:51
normal people and
1:15:52
I also heard a few rumors that you know
1:15:55
maybe there's a bit more money in the in
1:15:56
the sport that we also gonna race in
1:15:58
Australia again like Asia or like South
1:16:00
America like make it a proper World Cup
1:16:03
and not just the European Cup that would
1:16:04
be sick like
1:16:08
yeah
1:16:09
we'll see I mean I haven't heard much
1:16:11
more but I think for next year basically
1:16:14
a lot of things are going to stay
1:16:15
similar
1:16:16
but um
1:16:18
in the midterm I'm excited to see if
1:16:21
there are going to be some big changes
1:16:23
about
1:16:23
um venues and stuff because
1:16:25
obviously that's one of the reason I
1:16:27
stopped racing because the bunions were
1:16:29
always the same no for 10 years so
1:16:33
um yeah so we'll see it's gonna be
1:16:35
exciting
1:16:37
um tell us a bit about
1:16:38
um your download performance camp that
1:16:41
you were running this season I've seen
1:16:43
some stories and stuff and content about
1:16:45
that um you guys had a great time and
1:16:48
I've known there's gonna be some sick
1:16:50
Riders from from Austria in the next few
1:16:52
years
1:16:53
no I was sick like my plan was always to
1:16:55
do like uh like a camp thing or like do
1:16:58
something for
1:16:59
for the Austrian future because there's
1:17:02
just nothing happening with our national
1:17:03
team and I I got yeah I got really
1:17:06
pissed about it because like why is it
1:17:08
so hard to to organize something it's
1:17:10
not hard to like you know send out an
1:17:13
email and invite them for a weekend so
1:17:14
that's what I did like I sent out on
1:17:17
Instagram like girls could apply and I
1:17:19
chose uh five girls and invited them to
1:17:23
Tower Charlie and ride with me for three
1:17:25
days it was
1:17:26
it was just like one day after arrived
1:17:29
after mountain man so I was a bit tired
1:17:31
and chat like but it was it was fun and
1:17:34
uh yeah it was sick because like just
1:17:37
the speed those girls already have in
1:17:39
the bike park like they stick behind my
1:17:41
back wheel in the bike part like it's
1:17:43
insane and it's so cool that they
1:17:45
already have
1:17:46
that confidence with jumps and I think
1:17:49
it's really hard for
1:17:52
Prada for older athletes let's say to
1:17:55
like learn to get faster where they
1:17:57
already know how to how to ride fast
1:18:00
they just need to learn to write
1:18:02
technical stuff and
1:18:05
yeah I don't know like the style they
1:18:07
all have like no one can do can jump
1:18:09
straight anymore like they're all
1:18:10
whipping or the suicide or like scrap
1:18:13
and it's so sick it's so cool like I
1:18:16
love it and I'm gonna do one next year
1:18:18
as well this year was only for German
1:18:20
speaking girls and next day I want to do
1:18:22
it a bit more International just need to
1:18:25
find a good date so
1:18:27
nice yeah that's exciting stuff
1:18:30
um so it it's been two seasons last year
1:18:33
and the year before where you started a
1:18:36
bit slower slowly and then you finish
1:18:39
the season
1:18:40
on the high note and with the bank so
1:18:42
have you made a plan for 2023 yet
1:18:46
no plans for next year
1:18:50
I don't know I I'm like focusing now on
1:18:52
my ews in March because I don't want to
1:18:55
die
1:19:00
and then I don't know it's still so far
1:19:03
to go until June to of course
1:19:06
um yeah I think
1:19:08
I don't know like everything is fine if
1:19:10
I'm not getting injured or don't you
1:19:12
know if I get healthy finally I can
1:19:15
start training properly like
1:19:17
I have a good good training team around
1:19:19
me with Cecile and it's it's amazing I
1:19:22
get really well like we've met I have a
1:19:25
really good relationship now and we work
1:19:26
a lot on on the bike and you know it's
1:19:29
just getting more professional and I can
1:19:30
give more feedback and it's sick like I
1:19:33
love my my job in my life so it's fine
1:19:37
excellent a lot but thanks for making
1:19:39
the time to come on the Pod uh very much
1:19:41
appreciated enjoy the off season I hope
1:19:44
you can get well and uh best of luck for
1:19:46
next season
1:19:47
thank you
1:19:49
excellent we'll be back with Tebow
1:19:51
deprella after these messages
1:19:53
I'm delighted to welcome back to the Pod
1:19:55
one of my most favorite Riders to watch
1:19:57
Debo diprella how you doing yeah good
1:20:01
thank you how are you oh yeah all good
1:20:03
thank you whereabouts in the world are
1:20:05
you right now
1:20:07
man yeah is that is it Corsica
1:20:11
uh no this uh this is this weekend I'm
1:20:14
going to Costco sorry French cap and
1:20:16
your French cup and yeah we're traveling
1:20:19
for the past months but yeah I'm at home
1:20:22
for a few days cool so we we last caught
1:20:25
up around this time last year you were
1:20:27
coming into the off season with with the
1:20:29
ankle and thumb injuries did they keep
1:20:31
you off your feet for long
1:20:34
uh yeah last year I was uh how to be
1:20:38
injured for the accident because he is
1:20:41
good in the accident to to enjoy and do
1:20:44
a few different things
1:20:45
but this year again I just had a little
1:20:48
surgery but just take two weeks and now
1:20:52
I'm back on the bike so it's a way
1:20:53
quicker than last year yeah yeah so you
1:20:57
know it's perfect I can enjoy now I
1:20:59
think it was I think it was Christmas
1:21:00
before you were back on the bike last
1:21:02
year is that right
1:21:04
ah yeah yeah yeah it was really late
1:21:08
so a bit of time has passed now when you
1:21:12
look back at the 2021 season how do you
1:21:15
feel about it
1:21:17
uh uh was really good compared to this
1:21:20
year
1:21:22
but uh no I don't know a lot of
1:21:27
[Music]
1:21:29
emotions and a lot of things you know it
1:21:32
was a amazing season and it will be in
1:21:37
my mind for a long time for sure because
1:21:39
uh it reads a lot of problems and good
1:21:42
races so with good memories and yeah
1:21:47
I'm not feeling crazy you ended up
1:21:49
second in the overall
1:21:51
do you still look on that back do you
1:21:53
look back on that now as like a a
1:21:55
massive achievement or are you still a
1:21:57
little bit disappointed that you didn't
1:21:59
manage to get first
1:22:01
no it's been over a year now and didn't
1:22:04
think about it anymore I'm just more in
1:22:06
the future right now you know yeah so we
1:22:08
did already one season after this 2021
1:22:12
in 2022 I did not nothing crazy this
1:22:16
season just in nothing pretty good so
1:22:20
now I'm really in the future and trying
1:22:21
to work and get better
1:22:24
cool
1:22:25
just uh coming into uh 2022
1:22:29
um after everything we talked about
1:22:31
right now
1:22:33
um did you have a plan for the 2022
1:22:35
season other than just go full gas like
1:22:38
you always do
1:22:40
no I didn't have any plan just uh try to
1:22:43
be as good as the 2021 or just maybe be
1:22:48
a bit better on some point but at the
1:22:50
end I was at the beginning of the system
1:22:52
I was not really prepared because uh
1:22:54
I've been late on the bike and less
1:22:56
prepared because of these little
1:22:58
injuries but they were quite long for
1:23:01
the little detours but uh
1:23:05
then I'll just try to write the the best
1:23:09
I can but maybe not
1:23:11
as much risk as I took maybe the year
1:23:14
before but he
1:23:16
has not worked because I did some less
1:23:20
good result just in four wheeler was
1:23:22
very good and then I didn't mistake I
1:23:24
crashed and uh I was slow sometimes the
1:23:28
the threading too safe and
1:23:30
a lot of mistakes but I learned a lot
1:23:33
again this year maybe more than last
1:23:35
year even yeah
1:23:37
yeah so talking about the races one
1:23:39
after another like the season first
1:23:41
started in taruka I think in Portugal
1:23:44
um you had a flat tire in your in your
1:23:47
race run
1:23:49
um but I'm already Miriam in Hugo we're
1:23:52
all like really on Pace and one there so
1:23:55
I guess like this was also a good start
1:23:57
for for the team for the knockoff team I
1:23:59
had a good good atmosphere I'm coming to
1:24:03
the first World Cup
1:24:04
yeah for sure this race was really good
1:24:06
uh in the quality it was really fast but
1:24:09
I crashed the last corner but at the end
1:24:10
my time was really quick and then uh was
1:24:14
uh for the final I had a good run but I
1:24:17
I had to stop and do a rerun yeah
1:24:19
because uh crash crap the guy crashed
1:24:21
really bad and then this run uh maybe we
1:24:25
didn't have to check the bike and stuff
1:24:26
and I had a flat tire so it was a
1:24:30
a big shitty but it's like that you know
1:24:32
and then coming to um Lord I was uh very
1:24:35
excited I feel ready but uh just one
1:24:38
week we followed I had covered so I just
1:24:42
arrived I was
1:24:43
covered free but uh it was really like
1:24:47
uh sick you know the the hug was like I
1:24:50
was like being so bad but I was feeling
1:24:53
good on the bike
1:24:54
and uh yeah maybe a bit too much and I
1:24:58
crashed pretty bad but no injury I was
1:25:02
lucky just one week without working
1:25:05
really good but the rest was good but it
1:25:07
was a big bummer because uh start
1:25:09
decision like that was a with two crash
1:25:12
and two bad races was not free
1:25:14
not really good after what I had the
1:25:17
last few races there before
1:25:20
yeah so you're forcing quality and like
1:25:22
I said you we all can remember your
1:25:24
crashing in that three and I guess um
1:25:27
closest George's bro in the script like
1:25:30
how's the tree doing because you hit it
1:25:32
so hard it looks you're looking like a
1:25:33
pretty Savage hit uh I'm a solid Rider
1:25:36
so I guess you weren't really phased
1:25:39
about that yeah it was fast fast crash
1:25:43
yeah
1:25:44
and I took the win
1:25:46
um
1:25:46
how like I I know we talk about a lot
1:25:50
about this like when he was on the
1:25:52
podcast like you guys have a a good
1:25:54
chemistry I can push each other but I
1:25:56
guess sometimes you still want to be in
1:25:58
front like he was saying I still want to
1:26:00
be in front of people you know so was it
1:26:01
the same for you like were you a bit
1:26:03
disappointed when you took the win no
1:26:05
absolutely not because you know uh the
1:26:08
year before it was not really highest
1:26:10
level and compared to what he did the
1:26:12
year before and uh was taught for him
1:26:14
because he won and it's been quite a
1:26:16
while that he didn't want to race so
1:26:18
absolutely not I was really happy and uh
1:26:22
yeah no no for sure
1:26:25
so sixth the Fort William Dash no just
1:26:29
you and your mechanic working out of the
1:26:31
back of the ground
1:26:32
which was pretty low-key I was quite
1:26:34
surprised to see that but it seemed to
1:26:36
work and then on to the World Cup coming
1:26:39
into that race Emery was on the full 29.
1:26:42
did you think about going that way
1:26:51
no no it's too too big this wheel in the
1:26:54
back for me I'm too small so
1:26:57
you P2 you adjust four tenths back on
1:27:01
Amory and it all came down to the Sprint
1:27:03
and we asked him about it and he said he
1:27:05
he'd be pretty pissed if if you beat him
1:27:07
in a Sprint because he's five years
1:27:09
older and you're you're only just at the
1:27:11
start of your Elite career he's
1:27:13
sprinting something you're working on
1:27:15
this off season
1:27:17
uh I work it every year but for sure I'm
1:27:21
getting older and I try to be stronger
1:27:23
and uh
1:27:24
yeah you need to be prepared for 40 I
1:27:27
mean next year it's a world championship
1:27:28
so yeah I hope I will be stronger than
1:27:30
him next year on this pillar section
1:27:34
are you are you a fan of fall William
1:27:37
uh absolutely not
1:27:41
like I'm not fun I really like this
1:27:43
track because it's a really tough long
1:27:46
and strange but I've never been really
1:27:48
really good on this track so that's why
1:27:50
my goal was to be the best can for this
1:27:54
race then I was really stoked about this
1:27:56
place because secondly from William uh
1:27:58
it's amazing and when you even if I was
1:28:00
just really close to the wind Armory has
1:28:04
been good for years on this track so
1:28:07
second place was like a win for me in
1:28:09
Korea on this track
1:28:11
dude I love about doing this podcast is
1:28:14
that everyone always told me or thought
1:28:17
William is so good Fort William's so
1:28:19
good and I went and wrote it and I was
1:28:20
like I can't believe people really enjoy
1:28:22
this
1:28:24
trials
1:28:28
trained then I was like I would
1:28:30
recommend to any of my friends
1:28:34
no no it's long it's uh you can broke
1:28:38
Wheels everywhere it's physical there's
1:28:41
wind like it's terrible but you have a
1:28:45
good viewer to stop
1:28:46
that's a good point so when Emery took
1:28:50
the win there I don't think I've seen
1:28:52
anyone ever more delighted that their
1:28:55
teammate has has won
1:28:57
and it's not just happened at that race
1:28:59
it happened a few times this season tell
1:29:00
us a bit about not necessarily a
1:29:03
relationship with Emery but what it's
1:29:05
like being on on the team with someone
1:29:07
when they are
1:29:08
clearly the fastest Rider on the circuit
1:29:12
that this season
1:29:14
do you does it add to the pressure or
1:29:17
does it take a bit of pressure away from
1:29:19
you or does it not really affect you
1:29:21
no there is no no more pressure it can
1:29:24
be just an help because you know
1:29:26
as he's fast every race you know if you
1:29:29
just follow him and you know you are as
1:29:31
fast as him you know you can win the
1:29:32
race so it's pretty helpful I would say
1:29:35
yeah and do you follow each other in
1:29:37
practice quite a lot and you share lines
1:29:41
we shall lights but we don't really like
1:29:43
to follow each other we don't like to
1:29:45
follow anyone I guess
1:29:49
so we try to discuss and exchange about
1:29:52
lines and stuff but not really follow
1:29:55
each other and uh yeah it's not I don't
1:30:00
like that it's not really helpful you
1:30:02
can see where you're going and tell me a
1:30:04
bit about the Telemetry you've had on
1:30:06
the bike this season because you see you
1:30:08
guys seem to run it a lot
1:30:10
uh yeah
1:30:12
plus yeah I think we were in more than
1:30:15
the past few years maybe because uh
1:30:17
maybe this year we know more how to use
1:30:20
it and uh maybe help us to to focus more
1:30:24
on the lines and now on Earth than on
1:30:26
the bike so yeah well did I even think
1:30:31
about that it's just the Archer the
1:30:33
engineering just take about take care
1:30:35
about this it just takes the data does
1:30:38
is your bike set up very differently
1:30:40
between tracks or is it pretty much the
1:30:43
same no no no it's pretty much the same
1:30:46
with tracks we just make few changes to
1:30:49
make it perfect but uh no we didn't
1:30:51
change that much
1:30:53
so Leah gang p7 in quality in some awful
1:30:57
conditions
1:30:58
you were and then in your restaurant you
1:31:00
were full attack
1:31:02
chin on the bars near the top uh getting
1:31:05
wild but you didn't seem to have any
1:31:07
special lines up there this last um this
1:31:09
year last year I remember you telling me
1:31:11
you had special lines up there and I
1:31:12
think you were like three seconds
1:31:13
quicker than anybody else at the first
1:31:15
split tell us a bit about Lee again
1:31:18
yeah absolutely uh
1:31:21
uh nothing crazy as you say no crazy
1:31:23
Lines no crazy speed maybe you'll be too
1:31:26
confident on the track you know I knew I
1:31:28
was fast on this track and
1:31:31
so it's been quite not helpful so yeah
1:31:36
really bad race uh compared to how I
1:31:39
like this track uh was really slow even
1:31:43
quality p7 was not crazy
1:31:45
and then I crashed in the Steep section
1:31:48
but I didn't
1:31:49
see me crashing you know I crash but uh
1:31:53
I didn't there is nothing crazy on the
1:31:55
floor and was just uh maybe uh I lose
1:31:58
the focus on this part
1:32:01
so yeah
1:32:03
really shitty race
1:32:07
yeah so um until that that point until
1:32:11
trying to like push really hard to win
1:32:14
everywhere so maybe it didn't feel like
1:32:16
that to you but for us watching it
1:32:18
looked like you were like going really
1:32:20
full on and
1:32:22
um after that race
1:32:25
um maybe there's a bit of change of
1:32:26
strategy and and maybe you stop risking
1:32:30
that much but I kind of have the feeling
1:32:32
that you're gonna
1:32:33
have a different opinion about this is
1:32:36
it true that you maybe thought oh I
1:32:39
crashed in this race and this was maybe
1:32:40
I should like your church right after
1:32:43
this race uh
1:32:46
it starts to be even bad bad
1:32:49
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1:32:51
even worse than uh try to stop taking
1:32:54
risks and start to be slow and it's been
1:33:07
so I guess it was not like you were
1:33:10
thinking about the overall it's more
1:33:11
like you like
1:33:13
maybe try to like find the right balance
1:33:15
between attacking and it's I know it's
1:33:17
not it's not easy like of course I
1:33:20
raised myself I know how it is but like
1:33:22
how do you like did you find it in the
1:33:25
end or like how how is it to deal with
1:33:28
that kind of mental stuff no I tried to
1:33:30
found it for
1:33:32
but from Lanza right to
1:33:35
uh mostatan I try to
1:33:39
to fund a good balance but uh didn't
1:33:41
achieve the easy goal so even after more
1:33:43
Satan just before Asia was uh still not
1:33:47
me you know I was running slow and not
1:33:50
pretty good on the bike not feeling good
1:33:51
so and you can sell my results I did
1:33:54
nothing crazy just in Snowshoe because
1:33:57
it was wet and you know when it's wet
1:33:58
there is no problem for me but I crashed
1:34:01
one more time because I was trying to to
1:34:04
push her as the first like the first
1:34:06
races and try to win not think about the
1:34:08
boy German you know it's good sometimes
1:34:10
just to have a problem and I think my
1:34:13
head was just to win because I could
1:34:15
have win this face but you know it's
1:34:17
like that but
1:34:19
now I was uh the the feeling and the
1:34:23
speed and the good balance between speed
1:34:26
and risk and everything was back in
1:34:28
nature I was really fast in Nigeria
1:34:30
really good on the bike
1:34:32
even if I had a small crash in the in
1:34:36
the Korea I think it was very really
1:34:37
fast
1:34:38
but then in final once again I was lost
1:34:42
between risk and I don't want to crash
1:34:44
and I was super super slow
1:34:47
well I guess Leisure is hard for for you
1:34:51
guys as frenchmens as well we have a lot
1:34:52
of expectation on yourself and
1:34:54
especially in a situation where like not
1:34:57
everything is going to plan this season
1:35:00
um even if you have a good feeling it's
1:35:01
hard to like put it together for race
1:35:03
run did you did you feel like the added
1:35:05
pressure with your family there like was
1:35:07
it a bit different than usual not really
1:35:09
no for me it was the same as usual I was
1:35:12
just even more angry too to have a good
1:35:14
race and just show to everybody that uh
1:35:17
I was kind of still there but
1:35:20
and I was as I was really enjoying the
1:35:23
track and I think I was really fasting
1:35:26
in the practice uh some people were
1:35:29
starting to tell me oh yeah really good
1:35:31
you're faster it's you it's your time go
1:35:34
go and it was like at a start
1:35:36
[Music]
1:35:37
I was like uh trying to slow myself yeah
1:35:43
and then it was like I was slow on the
1:35:46
track not just in my head yeah but
1:35:49
that's like something that I've when you
1:35:51
told me this it's like it makes me think
1:35:53
of Bernard when it has been like this
1:35:55
for years he was just like oh it's so
1:35:58
fast in time practice and then it was
1:36:00
getting like
1:36:02
slightly a little bit faster but
1:36:03
everybody else will gain so much faster
1:36:05
and even thinking he was up there but
1:36:07
then he was just like
1:36:09
not fast enough on race day
1:36:11
so I could I think it was like it's it's
1:36:16
a struggle for a lot of valid writers to
1:36:18
just find your peaking pace
1:36:20
yeah I don't want to take too many risks
1:36:23
like you don't want to crash like injure
1:36:24
yourself and go over
1:36:26
so yeah it's it's very tricky and I
1:36:30
think it's even harder when you are
1:36:31
beautiful
1:36:32
it's even harder when you have been fast
1:36:34
and you've been on the podium for a lot
1:36:35
of races The U is different because
1:36:37
you've been there
1:36:39
so yeah and it was being quick like it
1:36:42
happens really quickly that for the
1:36:44
first year for my first eight years so
1:36:46
it was just my third year in Elite and
1:36:49
the first year I really struggled on the
1:36:52
World Cup even since junior category so
1:36:55
you know it's not the
1:36:57
it's not a problem you know I'm still
1:36:58
really young it was just my third year
1:37:00
and yeah yeah I prefer to struggle now
1:37:02
then here you know a hundred percent it
1:37:06
the way that the points are stacked as
1:37:08
well for in World Cup racing it's it's
1:37:11
almost better to get a Podium and then
1:37:14
not do too well for two races than it is
1:37:17
to just be inside the top 20 for three
1:37:19
races in a row isn't it it kind of
1:37:21
really encourages you to to try and get
1:37:23
that podium
1:37:26
yeah I think so
1:37:28
because like that you don't have you
1:37:30
don't lose the confidence of crashing
1:37:32
when you crash you know you think a lot
1:37:33
you have a lot of creatures in your head
1:37:35
when you have 10 or 15 and you just
1:37:38
wrote normally you know you can do
1:37:42
better yeah when you crash you cannot
1:37:45
really know what you do because you
1:37:46
didn't arrive to the Finish Line yeah so
1:37:49
is that I mean in Worlds you've got
1:37:52
fourth place in quality with a crash
1:37:54
yeah
1:37:56
um you must have been stoked with that
1:37:58
yeah it was a super stuck I was like it
1:38:02
was amazing because I go to my to me
1:38:05
yeah so I I had somebody out there who I
1:38:09
know and he messaged me and he was like
1:38:12
um table looks like the fastest man on
1:38:13
the track and so when you when it came
1:38:15
to real estate I was like come on Teva
1:38:18
this is this is it this is your time but
1:38:20
you everybody else went quicker by quite
1:38:24
a long way
1:38:26
yeah if you
1:38:28
what have you learned from from that
1:38:33
I learned a lot for sure yeah but
1:38:37
um learned that yeah for sure World
1:38:39
Championships uh it's a special race you
1:38:42
know uh you need to be
1:38:45
specifically prepared to each race and
1:38:48
uh yeah you don't you need to be 100
1:38:51
focused and be the fast and take the
1:38:55
older risk you can take yeah you know
1:38:57
it's what like did and did it on this
1:39:00
day and not in practice or the other
1:39:03
days because the other day you can see
1:39:05
it on the track it was not the fastest
1:39:06
man but on race day it was the fastest
1:39:08
and it's what you need to be so yeah
1:39:12
it's a good example so yeah yeah I was I
1:39:16
think my restaurant was slower than my
1:39:19
quality runs with a crash you know
1:39:21
without crashing I was slurring The
1:39:23
Wristband and inequalities yeah I think
1:39:26
you're on the same second I don't know
1:39:28
which which way it was yeah yeah
1:39:32
it's crazy so valdisol was going really
1:39:35
well seeded sixth finished 11th wait I
1:39:39
was looking at the splits and you lost
1:39:40
two to three seconds to everyone in the
1:39:43
final sector Yeah I broke my rear wheel
1:39:45
ah right yeah yeah wait I would say um
1:39:51
you have the tight corners and and then
1:39:53
you yes
1:39:55
that's why I lost the I lost the ten
1:39:58
position because I was not going for a
1:40:00
position for sure I wasn't I think if
1:40:03
you
1:40:03
keep a normal time without the rear
1:40:06
wheel problem I was like seven or eight
1:40:08
and what cost me this place and what
1:40:11
cost me the top 10 uh overall yeah
1:40:13
because of medium which is terrible just
1:40:17
for yes for that but you know you were
1:40:20
only three points behind Greg I think
1:40:22
who got ten in there yeah yeah maybe
1:40:25
so it was a great season for the team
1:40:28
but it was a bit of a strange end to the
1:40:30
season because Emery won the overall but
1:40:33
he didn't have this well didn't have a
1:40:35
great race in Valley so yeah Miriam
1:40:38
morning Valley saw and finished second
1:40:40
in the overall you ended up 11th just
1:40:42
three points behind Greg as I just said
1:40:44
common Sam muckoff took the the team the
1:40:47
overall team prize
1:40:49
but it wasn't that euphoric end that
1:40:52
races I think everybody who races wants
1:40:55
that euphoric finish to a season don't
1:40:57
they where they come down they win the
1:40:58
La the last person down the hill they
1:41:00
win the race to take the overall to win
1:41:02
everything that's the ultimate kind of
1:41:04
Prize did it feel a bit strange to you
1:41:07
as a as a racer at the end of the season
1:41:09
given the teams won
1:41:12
yeah it was really strange for me
1:41:15
because uh the end of the student it's
1:41:17
where I was the the better on the bike
1:41:19
and I was feeling good and for me was
1:41:21
like oh I want more race you know I want
1:41:22
more wall caps yeah and uh for sure for
1:41:25
the team they were a bit
1:41:27
um disappointed or
1:41:29
not for Miriam for sure because she won
1:41:32
but America asked me was the three good
1:41:33
but at the end even if I was 11 I marked
1:41:36
some points for the team overall and
1:41:38
it's because of me a little bit that we
1:41:41
can won this award
1:41:43
um so it was a really good you know
1:41:48
but you know it just made me as more
1:41:51
Angry to to do better next year and to
1:41:53
be stronger you know yeah
1:41:56
racing is so strange because
1:41:58
as you've said you said you've had your
1:42:01
hardest year ever in Junior and delay
1:42:05
Charlie Hatton who is 24 years old an
1:42:09
amazing Rider one of the best British
1:42:11
Riders he's had the best season of his
1:42:13
career he's finished 12th in the overall
1:42:15
behind you and it's how people look at
1:42:17
things is very different you know you're
1:42:20
only 21 and you've finished 11th
1:42:23
um I think at one point when me and Emmy
1:42:25
were chatting on the Pod I described
1:42:26
this as being like a difficult second
1:42:28
album you know when a band has a really
1:42:31
big hit single a big hit album and then
1:42:33
they come back and they've got to try
1:42:35
and replicate that success how how do
1:42:37
you feel about it now when you look back
1:42:39
are you just hungry to go again
1:42:41
yeah for sure I'm just angry and I I
1:42:44
already think a lot about what happens
1:42:46
so now I'm really into the future and I
1:42:50
will be more popular than ever for next
1:42:52
year for sure
1:42:53
so what are you working on anything
1:42:56
specific are you back on the bike now
1:42:59
yeah for the moment I'm for sure I'm not
1:43:01
training uh really hard I'm just uh
1:43:03
going from a mixed ride uh e-bike and
1:43:08
car races you know we have the time to
1:43:10
be prepared the next season is far away
1:43:13
but uh I just try to to enjoy the time
1:43:16
on the bike and uh try to have some fun
1:43:19
and um
1:43:20
slowly back into a proper training and
1:43:24
art training yeah
1:43:26
so um when when do the team camps start
1:43:31
I don't know yet
1:43:34
um maybe I think maybe before the end of
1:43:38
the year yeah I think maybe one and then
1:43:40
uh the same reason as we did the past
1:43:43
few years uh I don't know yet I need to
1:43:46
talk about that with the reference about
1:43:48
the bus
1:43:50
and you've had a few weeks off since the
1:43:53
end of the season tell us a bit about
1:43:54
where you've been going
1:43:55
yeah for sure I took I don't know yeah
1:44:00
more than a month yeah I have no more
1:44:03
battery can you hear me yeah yeah it's
1:44:06
fine yeah yeah yeah
1:44:07
without these things I nearly made it
1:44:14
we had the friendships yeah we're really
1:44:19
good but I crashed once again
1:44:21
but
1:44:23
does it feel a bit like every time
1:44:24
you've gone really fast this season
1:44:26
you've crashed yeah for sure for sure
1:44:28
but I crash but that's it
1:44:32
then I just enjoy for one week I write a
1:44:37
lot of photo and coaching and then
1:44:40
surgery to remove the plate I had in the
1:44:43
in my right feet
1:44:46
so this took me off for
1:44:50
two weeks yeah two weeks uh you know the
1:44:54
first week you are like uh just walking
1:44:55
and not doing crazy stuff and then days
1:44:58
after days you you can do more stuff and
1:45:02
then I went uh a few days with my friend
1:45:05
in Dubai uh
1:45:08
I also went to Spain and last week no no
1:45:13
yeah last week we were in Caboto surfing
1:45:15
with the team it was a
1:45:24
cool that looks Wicked are you good
1:45:26
Surfer uh
1:45:32
but ahead going back to you know in the
1:45:35
sea to take the wave you know
1:45:37
when you need to go back it's horrible
1:45:39
so that's why I did twice surfing but
1:45:43
it's enough for me
1:45:44
tell us just a bit about French national
1:45:46
champs have you have you won that before
1:45:48
as a junior
1:45:50
uh yeah engineer one uh I own a new
1:45:53
category in Junior and Junior an
1:45:56
engineer won the junior title plus the
1:45:58
elite title in the same year oh yeah I
1:46:01
remember yeah yeah yeah because I don't
1:46:03
know nothing crazy
1:46:05
and you were really going for it this
1:46:07
year because the other guys were a
1:46:10
little bit they weren't really feeling
1:46:11
it were they like and Loris and Amory I
1:46:14
don't think
1:46:17
um going very fast because I think it's
1:46:21
sacred of fruit I don't know yeah so
1:46:24
yeah yeah it was uh I think when you are
1:46:27
maybe in practice everybody was a bit
1:46:30
chilling for us also we were testing we
1:46:33
were not really focused as on Rocket but
1:46:35
when you're on the Stargate you are
1:46:36
giving everything so
1:46:39
no everybody is was going really fast
1:46:43
and Antoine was going really fast he won
1:46:45
the race and uh even
1:46:48
like it was impressive and uh yeah but
1:46:52
also was pushing very hard but he had a
1:46:55
flat tire
1:46:57
and um
1:46:58
but the truck was really good also like
1:47:01
it was a bit of friendships French
1:47:04
French cup track but uh
1:47:07
it was fun to write it's good to end the
1:47:10
the season on a that it was not an easy
1:47:13
track but it was not really hard as well
1:47:15
listen because if after Valley sir you
1:47:17
have another track like that
1:47:21
back on the holiday now we're going to
1:47:23
the beach and tell tell us a bit one
1:47:26
thing you just mentioned all the talent
1:47:28
that the French have got at the minute
1:47:30
what was it like being on that team at
1:47:32
Worlds being with that team we saw
1:47:36
stacked with Talent
1:47:38
yeah for sure it's amazing to see I
1:47:41
don't even know why
1:47:43
um all the French French writers are so
1:47:46
fast at this time because you can see
1:47:48
maybe
1:47:49
five or maybe seven years ago when loik
1:47:54
was engineer he was maybe one year of
1:47:56
the only one fast maybe I'm wrong but uh
1:47:58
no no no that was I think it's that and
1:48:02
just few years after you have so many
1:48:04
white doves coming so it is so good to
1:48:07
see that and I hope it will stay like
1:48:09
that for a few years and I hope the the
1:48:12
young guys the the younger Generations
1:48:15
are going to be faster and
1:48:18
and and you all get on pretty well don't
1:48:20
you do you right you all get on very
1:48:23
well you're good friends with loik and
1:48:25
Laurie yeah we're all friends
1:48:27
not for sure and did you write together
1:48:30
at Worlds
1:48:32
uh no no no I should not write with
1:48:35
anybody at all it was a bit alone
1:48:39
keeping your lines to yourself yeah
1:48:44
cool so tell us a bit you're going to
1:48:45
Corsica this weekend French French cup
1:48:48
is no I think I'm I think it's a French
1:48:51
cup I'm doing it on the e-bike so all
1:48:54
right oh yeah I'm not sure if I will
1:48:57
write flatbed also not but uh uh today I
1:49:01
try to write flatbed also maybe I will
1:49:03
ride flat bills
1:49:05
and is this an Enduro is this
1:49:10
I'm pretty sure I need to check because
1:49:12
uh I don't even know where I'm going so
1:49:16
yeah uphill stage as well like in the
1:49:19
NWS or no sadly uh I think but I don't
1:49:23
know I don't even know how it's working
1:49:25
I just uh I'm going with my back I'm
1:49:28
riding my bike having some fun and we'll
1:49:31
see how it's working I hope I will have
1:49:33
enough battery
1:49:35
do you think we might see you on the ews
1:49:38
some point
1:49:39
I was supposed to do finale right but I
1:49:44
prefer to have the surgery and you know
1:49:48
having more time to to be prepared and
1:49:50
enjoy after than doing finale and being
1:49:53
after surgery after so
1:49:57
but
1:49:58
um
1:49:59
maybe if there is one rate before the
1:50:02
downhill season just to get prepared you
1:50:04
know to have the good physique but um
1:50:15
I need to choose the good venue because
1:50:17
yeah
1:50:18
for me to to do some appeals maybe my
1:50:22
image was saying how they couldn't make
1:50:24
the next change almost they had to
1:50:25
Sprint to the next stage because it's
1:50:27
too short I believe it's almost like too
1:50:29
short in time so they were like they all
1:50:32
had like maybe one minute two minutes
1:50:34
before they started so apparently it was
1:50:36
a real stressful oh yeah that's
1:50:38
something I can do but maybe it's good
1:50:41
to have some Sprints in the stage but
1:50:43
between stage
1:50:45
I think the lift or I don't know just a
1:50:48
few minutes of pedaling not hours and
1:50:50
hours
1:50:53
have you ever done the maker Avalanche
1:50:56
no never yeah it's so scary
1:51:00
yeah 100 kilometers on the snow is
1:51:02
pretty I remember can you imagine that I
1:51:05
never tried but I don't know that's
1:51:07
something I like to watch you know some
1:51:10
GoPros videos but it's too dangerous to
1:51:13
do that when you have a season uh to do
1:51:17
like the World Cups you cannot do this
1:51:19
type of phrase which which is a big risk
1:51:21
I think even if it's really funny and
1:51:23
can be interesting to do but yeah I
1:51:26
think it's too much risk have you done
1:51:28
Omega Ruby no no never fancy yeah
1:51:33
like you said like now I stopped racing
1:51:36
because I don't want to get injured and
1:51:37
when you raise down you're alone on a
1:51:39
track so basically you have you you can
1:51:42
control your own faith right yeah and
1:51:44
you're right riding with other people
1:51:46
like 100 people at the time it's just so
1:51:50
dangerous like he said like someone was
1:51:51
like what happened to Tracy this year
1:51:53
yeah knocked out because someone ran
1:51:56
into her and she got ridden over about a
1:51:58
rider you don't want that so
1:52:01
um I don't know I don't feel like I want
1:52:03
to raise any money especially not
1:52:06
something that physical and I like to
1:52:08
prepare myself for something and I don't
1:52:10
want to train that much anymore so I
1:52:12
guess this is
1:52:16
yeah cool well thanks very much for
1:52:19
coming on the show again table it's
1:52:21
always great to chat to you and we're
1:52:23
we're loving loving following your
1:52:24
career in Italy
1:52:26
um I hope you can keep up going full of
1:52:28
gas again next season
1:52:30
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