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Making Up The Numbers: Wyn Masters to do World Cup commentary?
Oct 27, 2022
Will he or won't he? In this week's episode of Making Up The Numbers George chats with Vali Hoell and Thibaut Daprela about some wild & wonderful team rumours.
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and any future ones so what have we got
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for you in this episode well in May 2020
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we did our first show with Valley Hall
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and Tiba de prayer two Young Guns who
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dominated their junior categories and
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were about to embark on their first
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Elite Seasons then in September 2021 we
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did a follow-up show Tiba had just
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crashed out in Snowshoe and in his
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chances of the first and in his chances
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of a first Elite overall but Valley won
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both snowshoot but Valley one bus
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nursery races to take her title in this
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episode we'll be catching up with them
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both about their 2022 seasons but first
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Emily seagantala it could have been the
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goat talking about 2022 or maybe it was
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Jordan Williams first podcast which made
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the the last episode so popular or maybe
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it was your jet lagged team rumors what
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have you got for us this time
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and I think he was not like teamers you
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mean there were they were true
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wow
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I don't remember what I said I said
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something it was it Andy Corb on on she
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said all kinds of stuff about cam she's
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gonna be furious
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I loved my memory since last episode and
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I also lost my memory of the actual
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episode because I wasn't there because I
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forgot remember yeah yeah yeah so
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um actually
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sleep maybe I'm going to talk about that
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a bit later but I heard something about
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um the no proof
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team yeah okay so obviously
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um Luis Ferguson was a knock proof
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already yeah so I heard it gonna take
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her on
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oh like full time yeah and they might
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take another girl on as well oh wow
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that'd be cool another team with
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multiple
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um female Riders so that's what I've
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heard and I have no confirmation of this
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but I think maybe bear Whitman will
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leave saracen with um
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Harry yeah
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right yeah that's a new one I didn't
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know that
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so that's a big change Always delivering
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George you are delivering that
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Jack have you got have you got any
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um did we talk about that new proof one
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last time because I knew about that I
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think we talked about it
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only after this after we'd finished
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recording okay yeah I could have drawn
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that one in last time I forgot about
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that one I'm [ __ ] for gossip I'm too
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busy I love Gossip dogging me wrong but
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I'm [ __ ] pioneering it because I yeah my
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brains elsewhere but yeah you're right
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it's it's so exciting thinking about who
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could be going where so I was going
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through looking at the final standings
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for 2022 and I picked out a few Riders
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who might be on the radar of pro teams
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so in the women's matild Bernard she was
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making a real impact until she got
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injured I think she was on like a Scot
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team but but not the factory one
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what do you know about her Emmy I think
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she comes from BMX is that is that right
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yeah yeah she's coming for BMX so uh the
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first time I've seen her is when I was
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still on Scots ages ago right she was a
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little kid back then she was like I
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don't know maybe seven eight year old
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yeah just like manually in the whole
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street I like some guys pump track and I
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was like who is that she's like amazing
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skills and I was never seen a girl
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manual that well and she was like eight
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or nine
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and um yeah so she's
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went after BMX she'd like switched to
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mountain biking yeah and also she's
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still very young she's kind of like me
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like a really tiny writer so it's like
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on some tracks it was it works better
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than others and she has a first injury
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as well and um yeah I think she's still
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looking for for a team right and she
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asked me about some contacts and stuff
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and hopefully she can find something I
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think Scott wouldn't take her on because
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they have marine and yeah age difference
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is not very big so I wouldn't plan on
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that but maybe I don't know someone else
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will see she's um
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she's a very young and talented writer
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so it would be good if she finds
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something yeah definitely Louise
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Ferguson we've you've already mentioned
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she got 14th in the overall off I think
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she well she did four races I think but
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the first one didn't qualify just kind
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of finding a favor so 14th off three
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races is is a really good result and
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then there was Anna Newkirk who if I
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remember rightly was Valley's biggest
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competitor in junior there was Anna and
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Millie and yeah
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yeah and I think they have a low budget
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film Center so I think it's it's working
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well for now they have the new Swiss
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brands from ixs Biggs who like is
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developing a new download bike so it's
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pretty
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I think it's it's pretty challenging for
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them to develop that bike with two girls
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I think it's it's a pretty cool project
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so yeah I could see them going going on
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with that excellent so Jack you're a few
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weeks into fatherhood now how's it going
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are you still getting enough sleep
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yeah man it's going really well I did
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just nod off there but
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no I'm kidding yeah it's going great
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um yeah everything's still going really
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well so we're still really enjoying it
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so he's almost on the bike I reckon next
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time you ask me that would have been a
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first ride
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excellent so let me ask you a
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hypothetical question I was looking as I
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say I was looking through the kind of
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results and and
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um if you could have one of these Young
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Riders on on your team next season they
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all finished around 50th in the overall
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as a team manager which one would you
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take so there's Henry Kerr
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pal boss gets Kaya Hearn Guyton these
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and Simon Chapel there which one of them
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would you have and why well it's I've
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got to be careful I'll answer this
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because I'm good friends with four of
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them I don't know Simon I'm sure he's a
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nice lab I've known Henry forever
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because obviously he's from the UK yeah
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um
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I'll I mean I'll level with it I
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actually spoke with Powell a few weeks
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ago right and asked him if he would be
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interested in riding for the team so I
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guess that answers the question he's a
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first year Elite he's had some really
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good results he's shown top 10 Pace
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um he's definitely going places
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but
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with that high top 10 months and Anne
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Henry Kerr almost on the podium at valve
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the soul yeah so for me it would be out
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of those three
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um gay town and Simon are really
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talented as well but yeah um I would be
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choosing from those three the
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interesting thing about Simon is he did
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very little as a junior
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um as a junior he was on um United ride
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oh
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um
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couscous team yeah and
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next to not qualifying quite a lot of
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the time and since kovid he's he's been
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getting some results so it's interesting
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to see that
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um you know it's not always these
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Juniors that are set in the world alike
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that then go on to have
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um professional careers as Elite Riders
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so it's going to be interesting to see
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how he can carry that on
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um
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oh yeah which Emmy if you were to pick
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in one of those which one would you pick
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these hypotheticals uh Power for sure
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yeah it's like it's like my little boy
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crush
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I really like him I think he's we always
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talk to him and we are like I think he's
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always smiling and I don't know he has a
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great personality and he's like so
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like I like his style on a bike and he's
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like a tall guy as well for like a
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junior but I think he like makes most of
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like his
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yeah his teacher and
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yeah I don't know I just like the way he
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rides and I mean the other guys I don't
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know Henry that well and Kai is I'm also
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good friend with his sister but I think
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yeah is my favorite for sure I know
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Henry quite well because he's his dad
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race is in our category at the races
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well he doesn't really rest he hasn't
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really rest since Henry's been on
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propane but shout out to Greg
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um and I think Henry's he's done a bit
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like you jack he's done his degree now
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yeah so I big respect to Ben Reed as
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well for for sticking by Henry while he
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went through University a lot of Team
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managers would have just sacked him off
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um but Ben's supported him on that team
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for four years Henry's got a master's
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degree I believe in engineering but he's
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a switched on kid he's gone all the way
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through his uni while racing alongside
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of it after Miss races for exams and
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stuff and and I believe this year was it
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was either this year or last year was
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his first race fully back on it after
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graduating and it just shows that uh the
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distraction that those qualifications
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put on you by the way he's he's come out
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this year getting the top 20s and
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showing that he is capable of pushing
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the podium so yeah he's a lovely kid
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he's a great graduate some exciting to
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see what he can do moving forward
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without wanting to give anything away
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given that you're trying to pull a team
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together Jack is there anyone else out
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there who you think is is underrated
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they've got all the skills but they
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haven't managed to put it together yet
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or is it just this is racing it's about
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putting it together
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um there definitely will be
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um I'd need to look at a list of names
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because I'm [ __ ] with [ __ ] like that off
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the top of my head but yeah for sure
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there will be some riders in that in
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that Park who
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you know Ronan Dunn was one of them yeah
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until Snowshoe he was always one of the
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most impressive Riders on the track and
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it was always going to be a case of it's
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a matter of time until you know wrecks
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himself or he has that breakthrough
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result and thankfully it was the second
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one so yeah but there will be more and
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uh it's the big problem I have with this
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sport is
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there's just so few places for those
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Riders to be supported and be developed
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and whatever happens with the changes
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from Red Bull into Discovery and Warner
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Brothers taking it over I just hope that
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whether it turns into a kind of Formula
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One formula two kind of system or
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whether they just become more teams able
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to take more Riders I just hope it
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increases the amount of support
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available because it's such a good sport
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there's so many youngsters coming
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through now it's ridiculous I don't have
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time to coach them all like
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if I was in a week to coach and I'm
11:19
rejuvenile news riders that want
11:20
coaching so it's so exciting for the
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sport and it's so sad to think that by
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the time they get to second year Junior
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unless dad's willing to fund it and able
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to fund it yeah they'll just have to
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fade away and it's it's a shame so
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hopefully that'll change yeah and Emmy
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is there anyone you can think of
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um there's a suicider his name is
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Yannick Beckler he's like
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qualified a couple of races uh last year
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this year was injured for most of the
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thing but like he he was like showing
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like top 30 top 40 pace and he has
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literally like no support he was this
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year on like that Scott B team but yeah
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I mean it's still like quite an amateur
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team and
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um yeah this is a bit of a sad story his
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father had big accident
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and he's in a wheelchair now so like it
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was life altering kind of experience
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last winter so I think for him all in
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all it was a really hard situation to be
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in because his father was like very
12:17
active on the motorbike on the bike
12:18
he'll go with him at all the races be
12:20
his mechanic you know so it was a hard
12:22
situation and he didn't make world's
12:25
team as well and I was like well that
12:27
whole [ __ ] storm went the Federation
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happened because I didn't agree with
12:31
that decision and he he showed in value
12:34
so that he could qualify so I think it
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ended up like
12:38
I don't remember but he qualified around
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30 40th so it was it was a good response
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on the bike but um yeah I think he's
12:45
he's working as Austin Dooley as well
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whom yeah the Americans
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uh maybe raw speed I don't know but he's
12:53
very consistent for his age like
12:55
and that's that's very impressive to see
12:57
so it's a bit different than maybe a pal
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which has raw speed but can't really be
13:01
consistent and Austin is the opposite
13:03
and we roll with him in Whistler as well
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so he's like a sweet kid and
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he could be like a very good in the
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future as well you make a fair point
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about Austin the other thing to like
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support what you've just said about the
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consistency raw speed thing is 2021 he
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didn't have that pass so now he's faster
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with consistency so if he makes that
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jump again all of a sudden he's going to
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be knocking on the door in the top ten
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so interesting what you were saying
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before Jack About You Know The Young
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Riders coming through I I never stopped
13:32
believing in Luke Williamson and he won
13:35
the the last National of the year at the
13:36
revs clinched this national series with
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it and I hope that gives him the
13:40
confidence for next season because I
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think there's a rider in there that that
13:43
could be top 30 at World Cups no there
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is for sure like I say this to most of
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the lads our coach and girls I coach
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like
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you know Luke was what was he qualified
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13th or something like that fought with
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him like
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once we all get to that level like me
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and Dan have been riding together for
14:02
three years and if you put the stopwatch
14:03
on it me and Dad will be very similar he
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came 10th at Marigold because that
14:07
weekend everything went well it all
14:09
worked my point is there are so many
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people on that list of about 100 Riders
14:14
who can do it but everything's got to
14:17
align at that time so yeah Luke is fast
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enough Luke can do it but how do you do
14:24
it on the day that's the exciting thing
14:25
about it so in the last episode Jack you
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you announced that you were
14:29
unfortunately a part in Wales with
14:31
common Sal and that other teams were too
14:34
um do you think that might mean the end
14:36
of the common sale 100 team because that
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would that would be quite big news if it
14:40
does
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as far as I'm aware that team is
14:45
is gonna kind of change I think some of
14:48
those Riders are going to go on to a
14:49
common cell team run internally right
14:53
um and whether the the team run by peace
14:57
then becomes a team with different
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sponsors I think that's what's happening
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but that's about as much as I know I
15:03
don't really know who's going where or
15:05
for Who's involved with what but yeah as
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far as I'm aware that team won't look
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the way it does next year well from cam
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I have some influence about that because
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obviously comments are talks and I think
15:16
she's a good friend with them with the
15:18
any guess brothers so
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um I think melee was searching for a
15:22
team because she didn't know if peace
15:24
could go on with another team but come
15:26
and sell is definitely not with peach
15:28
anymore yeah and so
15:30
um I think it was Millie and who else is
15:34
on a team Suarez is leaving I think yeah
15:36
so Angel Suarez Millie and Hugo Frick
15:40
Stallone and then Thomas is stack and
15:41
Greg Williamson
15:43
okay so
15:44
um
15:45
freestyle is going with someone else of
15:49
common salt to the team I think it's uh
15:51
maternity guess maybe and I think it's
15:53
home as well I think maybe all three of
15:55
them are like stylish team and stuff so
15:57
merely
15:59
um is trying to like see if if pitch is
16:01
still be able to put a structure
16:03
together with another brand
16:05
and I know Greg's mechanic and from what
16:07
I'd heard
16:08
Greg's been talking to a large number of
16:12
people about his options and last time I
16:14
spoke with him no decision had been made
16:17
so I'm I know what Greg's like I'm sure
16:20
we'll find something but he knows what
16:21
100
16:23
I was also wondering about Charlie
16:24
Harrison it's been a rough few years for
16:27
it with for him with injuries he was
16:29
eighth at Snowshoe last year but then
16:31
broke his finger at Fort William this
16:33
year and hasn't kind of shared anything
16:35
on Instagram since then I think when
16:37
when Loris joined Trek in 2021 if I
16:40
remember correctly Reese's spot on the
16:42
team was under threat because they were
16:44
they had four Riders
16:47
um which is is quite unusual an American
16:49
brand how important is it to them to
16:52
have an American Rider
16:54
a pivot American yes so you can answer
16:58
that question better than we can well
17:00
you can guess I think the track there's
17:03
a very important to Now American Rider
17:04
and to
17:06
in my opinion it's as a mountain bucket
17:09
it is easier or it's like an advantage
17:12
should be an American Rider on the
17:13
market because most brands are like the
17:16
American Market is very big yeah so
17:18
that's why we had Elliot for years but
17:20
for us it's a bit different because
17:22
pivot gives a like all almost all the
17:25
Liberty to Bernard so Bernard decides
17:28
who he wants to be on the team
17:30
and if someone's American it would be
17:32
better but with the dynamic that we have
17:35
with the kiwis on the team
17:37
and the UK part sometimes
17:41
um yeah you don't need it as much
17:43
because Eddie is like very much credible
17:44
so they found someone English speaking
17:47
that can do the job
17:49
but yeah I don't know about Charlie
17:51
either I've heard rumors is going to
17:53
stop racing I don't know so I remember
17:55
when we had I think it was when we had
17:57
to reset and this was before you even
17:59
joined the podcast Jack it was the end
18:01
of season one I'm sure he said like
18:03
Charlie's Family of firemen or something
18:06
like that and while he's gonna go and be
18:08
a fireman but he's extremely religious
18:11
isn't he and I remember reading posts
18:13
along the way whenever things have kind
18:15
of gone wrong injuries or whatever where
18:17
he's kind of been a bit Nosh long just
18:19
like whatever remember gwinny back in
18:22
the day he always used to say well I
18:25
don't really care I've got God and my
18:27
family and I'm all good and that I get a
18:30
feeling Charlie's a little bit like that
18:33
um and he's as you've said he's had a
18:35
few rough years he might just be looking
18:36
at it and going [ __ ] this I won't do
18:38
this anymore
18:39
because [ __ ] I know how that feels half
18:41
with you last year when my shoulder
18:43
feels like it's gonna fall off my body
18:44
you're like why are you even why am I
18:46
even doing this anymore but I do [ __ ]
18:49
love it so much so I'm I'm gonna keep
18:51
going if I can so but you know he might
18:54
just have enough
18:56
so if either of you heard anything
18:58
further from ESO in the last couple of
19:00
weeks not a thing no
19:03
not Scooby George nobody's gonna [ __ ]
19:05
clue
19:07
we've got to trust the system aren't we
19:09
they're a massive company so
19:11
really random team rumor
19:15
really really random
19:17
win Masters to replace Rob Warner where
19:20
did you hear that I can't remember you
19:22
have too many beers no I don't know
19:24
where I heard it from but it makes sense
19:26
it yeah I mean
19:28
think about what a a muppet Rob was back
19:31
in the freecast today it's a good one
19:32
obviously but with the training he then
19:35
had he's become the Red Bull Rob Warner
19:37
so you win's pretty media Trend already
19:40
so he's got the Charisma as well yeah
19:43
I'm one of the gmbn guys doing it it's
19:45
just no he's got he's got the the race
19:48
knowledge as
19:53
he basically like is interested by it
19:57
everything has to do with our Sports so
20:00
I think you do a good job yeah
20:02
you have a word with that for the next
20:05
episode I could
20:08
talk to each other
20:11
that's a lot of nonsense
20:15
too busy skiing right
20:18
okay and developing houses from what it
20:20
was if you can if you can't call that
20:22
skiing because it's more like doing
20:23
backflips on skis and crashing he's a
20:26
[ __ ] scary in there it's fun enough but
20:28
he just started but they're like these
20:30
these guys are insane they just like
20:32
barely know how to to do a chord like
20:34
yeah just do like double backflip
20:37
Fearless everything he does Fearless
20:39
absolute Legend
20:41
So the big news over here in the UK
20:44
since the last last episode dropped was
20:47
the guys at Revolution announcing the
20:48
closure of the park in January due to
20:51
disease affecting the Japanese Larch
20:53
trees that make up two-thirds of the
20:55
forest yeah it was it's a heartbreaking
20:57
video to watch I was on the first uplift
21:00
the guys ever did in 2011 and I've been
21:03
friends with them ever since and they've
21:05
supported me and the podcast from the
21:07
start and I just wanted to say a big
21:08
thank you to James Sasha Finn Tim Joe
21:11
and Linda for that I was going to do a
21:13
special episode of the Pod with them
21:15
well with them all last year go and
21:17
record it including Rock
21:19
um to celebrate 10 years of the park
21:21
um but like many ideas I have and many
21:24
promises that get made around the
21:25
podcast three it didn't get done but I
21:28
am hoping once the guys have a bit more
21:30
news that we can get that show together
21:31
and talk about the future as well Jack
21:34
you you were at revs yesterday and I'm
21:36
there next weekend tell us a bit about
21:38
about the park and what it means to you
21:41
and why you choose to do so many of your
21:43
coaching sessions there yeah I mean I
21:45
think I was the same as you George I was
21:47
there at the start I don't I think I was
21:49
there on Auckland there but honestly
21:50
that long ago I can't remember
21:53
um just been going there all the time
21:55
and I was I was thinking about this the
21:57
other day because
21:58
when I'm there now I'm usually there
22:00
working
22:01
um and I was standing in the forest so
22:03
that I had got some videos of the kids
22:05
come through and I'm standing next to
22:07
one of my free lap things and just
22:08
looked around the woods and I was like
22:09
[ __ ] this isn't going to be here in like
22:11
two months time and it properly like got
22:13
ultimate because I remember like
22:16
Winters doing laps down Far Side has
22:19
genuinely helped me have the career I
22:22
have had because like in the UK we we
22:24
don't have that many places to do good
22:27
training on the downhill mountain bike
22:28
and over the years between say 2013 and
22:33
covid basically I'd spend a lot of days
22:35
going the revs and just lapping Fireside
22:38
yeah on the GoPro and just doing the
22:40
runs and that kind of value that that's
22:43
given to me is potentially like you know
22:45
a big part of my career and now it's
22:47
obviously helping me coach these future
22:50
young athletes who are going to
22:51
hopefully have great careers themselves
22:52
and to think that from January it's not
22:55
going to be there anymore is is but it's
22:57
what you said it is heartbreaking
22:58
because this is a tiny Sport and there's
23:00
only a few bike parks in the country and
23:02
we're losing one of them so so yeah same
23:04
as yourself huge shout out to everyone
23:06
involved all the staff all the the
23:08
people there and they will be missed
23:11
definitely okay well we we all hope the
23:14
guys can can get something together be
23:16
that in the NOG or or elsewhere as they
23:18
they do sure to sure do produce some
23:20
fantastic Trails on a brighter note
23:22
we'll be back with 2022 Elite women's
23:24
world champion for Valley Hall after
23:26
these messages
23:28
Valentina Hall welcome back to the Pod
23:30
how's it going thanks so good
23:33
excellent straight out of CrossFit
23:35
straight onto the Pod was it was it a
23:38
tough session
23:39
I think so we do lots of metcon right
23:42
now so I'm not used to heavy breathing
23:44
what's metcon which is like a bit more
23:47
endurance based stuff so it's good for
23:50
me though it's fun
23:51
it's fine okay is it does anyone like
23:53
doing CrossFit is is this a Cecile
23:56
Ravenel initiative or is it something
23:58
you know something you've chosen to do
23:59
no I think my mechanic influenced me a
24:02
bit more on that so
24:04
yeah I was surprised I still would never
24:07
do CrossFit so she never really used to
24:10
go to the gym at all
24:11
but she changed a lot like now they even
24:15
go for fun to the gym and uh good it's
24:17
gonna say she looks like that through
24:19
just riding oh yeah that would be
24:22
amazing so you've also been doing some
24:24
dirt jumps with the BMX Champion Morris
24:27
mulders was this just for fun or is that
24:30
part of a bigger plan
24:32
who knows
24:35
[Laughter]
24:37
Rampage here we come
24:40
but I think it's more not Rampage wise
24:43
it's more in the other direction maybe a
24:45
bit
24:46
more hardtail time than
24:49
all right cool
24:51
all right Valley so 2022 then um it
24:54
started pretty well second place at
24:56
taruka and then second place at the Brio
24:58
World Cup in France where you did have a
25:00
mechanical and then you arrived in Lords
25:02
with the number one plate as you're
25:04
going along this Elite Journey
25:07
um you're certainly ticking things off
25:09
already
25:10
um were you happy with where you were
25:11
coming into the 2022 season
25:15
um yeah I mean it was a super early
25:17
start when was it Portugal was in
25:19
February I just woke up in March like
25:22
not a lot of well I guess I had way more
25:25
bike time than I used to have before so
25:28
there was like no excuse to not do well
25:31
um definitely like I was still buzzing
25:33
from from the last rounds in Snowshoe
25:35
and I just wanted to do well and
25:37
maybe put a bit too much pressure like
25:40
add big expectations so um well fourth
25:44
place at the first World Cup was not
25:45
what I wanted to but it was so tight as
25:47
well so honestly I couldn't complain but
25:51
yeah I mean not what I wanted to be
25:54
honest yeah sure did you have a strategy
25:57
coming into the season because we think
26:00
we heard somewhere that you wanted to
26:01
focus more on winning individual races
26:03
rather than just being consistent and
26:05
going for podiums is that true
26:08
um well I guess it just wants to test
26:10
like how far I can push because I don't
26:14
maybe it's a bit it was the wrong
26:16
strategy I think because I still need to
26:19
work on my consistency a little bit more
26:21
but I just wanted to see how much I can
26:24
push but I kind of over pushed it like
26:27
four times in a row and that it really
26:29
sucks that I woke up because you can't
26:31
really do many mistakes because every
26:33
time you you know [ __ ] up a final you
26:35
just have less less options for good
26:39
overalls um yeah
26:42
um I don't really know what I did
26:44
um I think I just had the wrong mindset
26:47
like I wanted to win so bad and wanted
26:50
to impress other people and all my
26:52
sponsors that I somehow just couldn't do
26:55
my race runs okay
26:58
so you just mentioned Lords um you were
27:01
the fastest qualifier and that was with
27:03
the time that would have won the race
27:05
but then you finish fourth 1.6 back
27:08
green at split three but then lost a
27:11
little bit in the final two sectors what
27:13
happened there obviously you were
27:15
disappointed talk us through it
27:17
um well
27:19
such a long time ago I don't know
27:25
it was the first spot in the last Corner
27:27
that's 100 sure I was so scared about
27:29
crashing in the last Corner again yeah
27:31
so I like Slammer breaks super hard and
27:35
yeah I don't know I just
27:37
I did some weird things where every time
27:41
I did well in qualifying I changed lines
27:43
for the next day and I did it in Lord
27:45
again and it didn't work out again so
27:48
maybe that's something I should not do
27:51
in the future like stick to my lines if
27:53
I weren't qualifying and I feel
27:55
comfortable why I change it right yeah
27:57
let's go faster yeah you've answered
27:59
your own question there I think
28:01
okay
28:03
um so second at the national at Fort
28:04
William to mina
28:06
um
28:08
and then from there I think did you have
28:10
a like a week-long trip to dovey bike
28:12
park is that right with Red Bull exactly
28:15
yeah
28:17
big time so I was quite quite shocked
28:21
but uh well it is what it is then we
28:24
went for Red Bull Camp it was the first
28:25
time Rebel hosted this kind of uh
28:27
athlete Camp thing it was quite funny
28:30
because like all the Juniors were
28:32
invited like Phoebe and uh Gracie and
28:36
Rachel was there so the goal was to do
28:39
time runs but it was just the weekend
28:41
before the World Cup in for William so I
28:43
was not really Keen to push and save my
28:46
energy because for William is so
28:48
physical that I did not really wanted to
28:50
push and also I didn't really want to
28:53
get my ass kicked by Rachel
28:56
so it was good for my uh for one
29:00
I guess self-confidence to to not show
29:03
my time and just enjoy riding and have
29:05
fun and do some whips and yeah yeah sure
29:07
have you ridden in the UK much before
29:09
what what did you think to the bike park
29:11
at dummy oh it's like it's my first time
29:13
already at the Derby bike park so um I
29:16
love it it's called The uplifts are
29:18
quick and you have so many different
29:19
tracks to write so it's good I'm going
29:22
going tomorrow I've only been once
29:24
before surprisingly given we're not that
29:26
far away I've only been once as well
29:28
yeah the last time some um one of the
29:30
lads I was riding with Brooke is
29:32
collarbone on the third run so I've
29:33
literally I've done two runs down it so
29:35
I'm most excited for it see what's been
29:38
that long since I've been there it was
29:39
pre-covered yes yes
29:42
they have so many new tracks like it's
29:45
insane yeah
29:47
I'm just always working I just never
29:49
have time
29:50
so even worse
29:53
that has given me more time I don't have
29:55
boobs
29:58
like today I was just like [ __ ] it I'll
30:01
go ride like
30:02
Sarah's got this [ __ ] locked down so I'm
30:04
just yeah it's been great I'm gonna have
30:06
more
30:08
so
30:10
VM I'm a little bit confused here I
30:12
can't remember if it was the national or
30:13
the World Cup I think I saw you at Birth
30:15
but one of them I saw you on Thursday
30:17
and Friday I think if it was the World
30:19
Cup and we chatted briefly and you you
30:21
didn't seem very happy at all
30:24
was that the World Cup I was like the
30:25
national
30:26
probably both
30:28
[Laughter]
30:33
you seated second at the World Cup event
30:35
crashed out in your race run but still
30:38
got fifth
30:40
um tough weekend
30:42
yeah
30:45
I don't know it just crashed again but
30:47
it was my first crash I didn't really
30:49
I didn't really think about it much I
30:51
was just like okay I crashed it's fine
30:53
still on the podium I was not far back
30:55
on for on the top three so that was
30:57
actually thick
30:58
um
30:59
it's also good to know that like even if
31:02
I crash
31:03
just carry on because you can still do a
31:06
decent decent result and when I crashed
31:09
in for William because it was quite
31:10
quite far at the top I was like so
31:12
pissed for like a minute long and
31:14
thought about stopping and if I would
31:16
have carried on it would have been a
31:17
better result but I guess that's what
31:19
you learn I went back and watched it
31:22
before we thought well this afternoon
31:24
and uh you crashed just after you got
31:27
under the gondola wasn't it you do that
31:28
right as you go into the Gambler and it
31:30
was the next left that you went down in
31:32
but you were a bit you had a couple of
31:34
moments just before that it was like it
31:36
carried on and then you you went down
31:38
but you were pushing weren't you
31:40
yeah I tried to have the fastest
31:42
Mercedes-Benz split whatever it is I was
31:45
like I was going so fast because I knew
31:47
Nina would be so fast on this track so
31:50
like I gave it up and it felt sick like
31:52
it was I don't remember like riding that
31:55
fast so it was good until I crashed so
31:57
yeah right when I went I think I went
31:59
and looked at the splits and I think you
32:00
and her were pretty much neck and neck
32:02
until you until you went down so Nina
32:06
put down that was possibly the run of
32:08
the Season about 5 14 down down Fort
32:11
William she seems to have some some
32:13
secret sauce on that track but obviously
32:15
you you've got it as well
32:17
well who knows I mean all the teams like
32:21
SP like I think most of the writers
32:23
spend some times before they woke up on
32:25
this track so I guess the more runs you
32:28
do on it
32:29
the better you are because it's just so
32:31
long and you you can test yourself and
32:33
prepare really well so I wonder how it's
32:35
gonna work for next year and we have
32:37
Wall jumps there
32:38
gonna see some
32:40
really tight race kits and
32:44
you're not wrong
32:46
and you say to August next year so
32:49
everyone's gonna have loads of time to
32:51
practice because normally when it's in
32:53
May it doesn't open that long before so
32:55
there's going to be a lot of people
32:56
there right up until August I imagine I
32:59
wonder if Rachel come back for it I've
33:00
never even considered it until just now
33:03
pretty sure she will but I don't know
33:05
but I have a good feeling she'll try
33:08
she's been strong in the past though
33:11
so yeah
33:12
so
33:14
um you
33:15
a national champ in simmering and I
33:18
think you also you're also national
33:20
champ as a junior
33:23
um I've done national champs this year
33:25
and I think it's a pretty cool yes
33:26
um what does the national title mean to
33:29
you
33:32
um well it's a hard question because I'm
33:34
not really a big fan of our national
33:36
team Federation whatever because well it
33:39
makes two of us
33:41
[Laughter]
33:47
so on one hand I actually don't really
33:50
care it's more like
33:52
I don't know sometimes it's even an
33:54
issue because
33:56
then you need a jersey then you don't
33:58
have the jersey in time you get to find
33:59
better UCI like it did last year then I
34:02
was wearing the national Jersey by
34:04
accident at Nationals so I got another
34:07
fine last year so I got two tons of fine
34:09
for wearing it and not wearing it and I
34:11
was like oh I'm over it so I didn't
34:13
raise last year and then this year I did
34:16
race because we ordered the jerseys
34:18
already with the national sleeve so I
34:20
had to race
34:22
yeah obviously
34:24
how much pressure was that sat in the
34:27
start line knowing the jerseys has
34:28
already been produced well
34:32
it was all right there was not there's
34:35
not so much competition in Austria yet
34:37
but uh in five years it's gonna look
34:39
different because there's some really
34:40
really fast girls coming up and I'm so
34:43
stoked because they're so steezy on the
34:45
bike and finally there's something
34:46
coming and uh it's it's great to see
34:50
yeah we're gonna talk about I think
34:52
we're gonna talk about these camps a
34:53
little bit later
34:55
um coming back to Fort Williams I think
34:57
we talked about that on uh come and Ice
35:00
podcast as well
35:01
um I think you made some changes to your
35:04
bike
35:05
um at four or after Fort William
35:08
um
35:09
what were you looking for what what did
35:12
you what did you do
35:13
yeah so I guess everybody saw that we
35:16
are on some black box products and uh
35:19
it's the first time for me that I get
35:21
involved in all the testing and
35:22
obviously it takes some time to develop
35:25
a good product and probably the first
35:28
few versions are not where it should be
35:31
for World Cup racing
35:33
so I just had to like get used to it and
35:35
yeah I think we were a bit wrong at the
35:39
first two World Cups it was just way too
35:40
stiff for me coming from a 35 to a new
35:42
38.
35:44
being super stiff for for a girl as well
35:47
like a really struggle with arm pump and
35:50
I just couldn't ride I think you can see
35:52
it on the videos pretty well that I'm
35:54
like bouncing off all the Rocks which
35:56
were on that track so uh I struggled a
35:59
lot and then yeah I just gave Matt my
36:02
bike the weekend before before Leo going
36:05
to ride it in a bike park because that's
36:07
what we did when we were on YT here at
36:09
the exact same bike as I had and he
36:11
exactly knew how the bike is is reacting
36:13
and with the new session he didn't had
36:16
the chance to so I just gave him the
36:18
bike and then after the day of riding he
36:20
was like ah now I get it what you mean
36:23
there was a bit of a miscommunication
36:26
for a few weeks but we got that dialed
36:29
and I think at the end of the season we
36:32
also got some some new stuff for for the
36:35
black box and we just uh yeah we worked
36:38
into the right direction we also started
36:40
using the Telemetry system and he could
36:44
react better on my feedback and I was a
36:47
bit more patient and it worked out at
36:49
the end cool
36:52
um then um Leo gang your home Soul race
36:56
um tell us about the pressure that
36:59
brings
37:00
well like everybody knows Leo gang and
37:04
me were best friends that's amazing I
37:06
love it
37:08
like it's so cool and it's nice to have
37:10
a home World Cup like not many people
37:12
get the chance to race at home and it's
37:14
pretty close to home like I know all
37:16
they live people and like the Martians
37:18
on track they all know me and it's fun
37:20
like even some teachers
37:22
the their Marshalls at the weekend so
37:25
it's fun to stop and talk to them but on
37:27
the other hand like there's so much
37:29
pressure like you have all the the media
37:32
there like your face is on every wall
37:33
like everybody expects you to do well
37:35
and I don't know why people expect me
37:38
already to win most of the races I'm
37:42
only 20 but they were already talking
37:45
firstly that I'm gonna win everything
37:47
but I'm but I'm not because I need to
37:49
learn how how to how to race and
37:51
how to get the racecraft so
37:54
yeah I think the home workout was just a
37:56
little bit too much too much for me and
37:59
yeah crashed two times in my race run
38:01
and I was really really devastated like
38:04
it was the first time in my life that I
38:06
cried because of racing I think the last
38:09
time I cried was when I was
38:11
eight when my grandma died so it was
38:13
really I'm not really a
38:17
how you say like I'm not really
38:18
emotional
38:20
and I just broke down and it didn't help
38:22
that my mom was coming into the finish
38:25
and I just couldn't stop crying it was
38:27
insane like I was so sad and then I
38:30
think the week after it was crank Works
38:32
in sprook and I was like so down that I
38:35
didn't even wanted to raise crank works
38:36
like I wanted to go home and stay in bed
38:39
and I don't know just be alone but yeah
38:43
I guess that's something you learn but
38:44
it's also cool that
38:46
sport can
38:48
be so important for you and
38:51
but you can also have super nice moments
38:53
which you know make you forget the sad
38:55
moments it's okay
38:57
of course as the more you commit the
38:59
more you have reward but also the more
39:01
you can be hurt if it doesn't work out
39:04
for sure
39:05
um so you mentioned Innsbruck quack
39:07
Works
39:08
um you won that race
39:11
uh I think Tracy Tracy was racing did
39:14
she win qualifying yeah
39:22
she's gonna win the race
39:25
and then you went to do some AWS
39:29
I got 10th there I know the answer to
39:32
this question but I'm asking anyway
39:36
so how was the first AWS experience and
39:40
also are we going to see you do more of
39:41
this next season oh it's like I think uh
39:44
training with Cecilia Ravenel you can't
39:47
not do an AWS like you will always end
39:50
up pedaling somewhere so it was sick
39:53
like it was also really good for me to
39:55
like turn you know
39:57
put my attention to something else and
40:00
like experience something else and
40:02
yeah face A new challenge because before
40:04
I never did an endure race I did one in
40:06
Israel but it was only like what was it
40:09
like 500 meters climbing so it was not
40:11
not big and it's intense like wow um
40:16
um I definitely did not pedal every time
40:20
there was like apple in the stages I
40:22
just put my seat post up and then later
40:24
I talked to the girls and they were like
40:25
no we were sprinting I'm like oh this is
40:27
your first year
40:29
was enjoying my day
40:32
um but sick like I'm Keen to do more I'm
40:35
actually planning to do the ones in
40:36
March this year in Tasmania and uh I
40:40
think if I prepare for it properly and
40:42
and focus on it I think it can be quite
40:45
fun
40:46
yeah I think when I looked at the uh the
40:49
times and I think you lost like a minute
40:50
or something on the last stage and if
40:53
you haven't I've never done like the
40:55
longest lap I did is for William which
40:57
is like five minutes 20 maybe
40:59
and this one was like 15 minutes like I
41:02
had no idea how to Pace myself like you
41:04
can go for a coffee if you want to yeah
41:07
I don't know
41:08
but if you haven't lost that I think
41:10
you'd have been fifth or sixth something
41:12
like that which would have honestly it
41:14
didn't even check but yeah yeah it went
41:16
a lot I think something about I feel I
41:19
think if it might have been if you'd
41:20
have done the the same as the fastest
41:22
person on that stage you would have come
41:23
from or something like that I didn't go
41:25
into huge detail on it but yeah
41:27
so lensahide big crashing quality but
41:31
when you finish P6 in call event you
41:34
finish P5 in the race but you were 11
41:36
seconds back on Muriel
41:38
tell us about lenser hide well that the
41:41
track was sick I loved it but I had the
41:44
biggest crash in my season in qualifying
41:48
oh my God I don't know what happened
41:50
there it was insane I was like so sore
41:54
and then crashed again in my race run
41:57
and that was the point where I was like
42:00
what the heck is going on like honestly
42:02
I have no idea like I was questioning
42:05
myself so much like I was beating up
42:08
myself so much because
42:10
why is it happening like what I am doing
42:12
wrong
42:14
and I did not know the answer and I was
42:16
so yeah I was so pissed and over it that
42:20
I just had no more expectations coming
42:22
in sondor like nothing I was just
42:24
cruising in Andorra and like I didn't
42:27
give a [ __ ] about any results anymore
42:29
because it's gonna be [ __ ] anyway so
42:32
but it wasn't so no I mean you
42:35
so you've done four races like you said
42:38
you third in the overall but you've been
42:40
fourth fifth sixth and fifth
42:42
did you lose heart at all well it sounds
42:45
like from what you're saying you did
42:46
lose heart and what what what effect did
42:49
that have
42:50
did it free you up or did it
42:53
yeah definitely because before the
42:56
season I always write down a plan like
42:59
what my expectations are and first race
43:01
should be top five which I was and the
43:04
next one should be top three and I was
43:06
like even out of the top five
43:08
and it was just not going going where I
43:12
plan and I never really
43:13
had that happening like okay last season
43:16
was kind of the same I struggled but it
43:18
was my first probe Elite season because
43:20
the first year I was injured so it was
43:22
like a learning process I thought second
43:24
year easy now I know how to do it no I
43:27
don't know how to do it and
43:29
yeah
43:31
I was just so over it I don't know if if
43:34
you would talk to my parents or or to
43:38
Cecil you would they would I don't know
43:40
I was just
43:41
so down like I was so tired of it of of
43:45
wanting to do well and wanting to show
43:48
everyone I think the biggest problem for
43:50
me was that I wanted to show everyone
43:52
that I earned this spot in the World Cup
43:54
like I earned my repo helmet I run to be
43:57
here
43:58
that I didn't really
44:00
care about what I really want to do and
44:03
I just want to ride my bike fast and
44:06
I guess in Andorra that's just what I
44:08
did because I had no expectations and I
44:10
was so tired of what other people could
44:12
think
44:13
that suddenly I was just
44:15
you know riding free
44:19
nice so as you just said on door
44:22
everything did change for you
44:24
um just to recap that fourth and
44:25
qualifying and then you went seven
44:27
seconds faster in your race run
44:29
getting your first win of the season
44:32
um
44:33
how did that feel when you crossed the
44:35
line and you got that win
44:37
I was I didn't really when I crossed the
44:39
line I was just so stoked to Not Crash
44:41
okay where it's run after four runs
44:44
without crashing which is which felt
44:46
amazing but it didn't really thought
44:48
about like the result and then yeah
44:51
obviously Miriam crashed out she she was
44:55
faster the last split before it crashed
44:56
but
44:58
yeah that's that's how it is that's how
45:00
racing goes and I was I was stoked to to
45:03
win because it felt so great and the
45:06
cooler part actually before was that our
45:07
Junior Tegan we got third so it got the
45:10
first time on the podium and just the
45:13
yeah how happy he was like really
45:16
influenced me and I really wanted to
45:17
have the same and feel the same
45:19
happiness like he did and I think just a
45:21
good momentum that I brought up to the
45:24
Stargate like helped me to write
45:26
smooth and fast I guess nice did you
45:30
like the new tracking on door
45:33
um actually not really it's like scary
45:36
because you need to go so fast and it's
45:38
so loose and there's nothing really
45:41
technical it's like I prefer the old one
45:43
way more but we will see what they do
45:46
for work jumps there but I don't know I
45:48
would prefer a bit more Tech to be
45:51
honest yeah okay so Snowshoe I think you
45:54
described your performance as slow as
45:57
[ __ ] is that correct
45:59
oh man it was so wild I didn't crash
46:02
when I was actually sick yeah for sure
46:05
um you were 11 back on came and seeding
46:08
and 16 back in your race but I mean they
46:12
they were insanely difficult conditions
46:14
Greg last week said it's the greasiest
46:16
conditions he's ever known did you find
46:19
it really difficult I mean we all did I
46:20
think right yeah it was insane like I
46:23
had no no practice run where I like
46:26
finished without like going offline or
46:28
crashing I got it was insane and also
46:31
like I just can't ride ruts like I don't
46:34
know how it works and I don't know like
46:37
I also feel like every time I'm like
46:40
overwhelmed with a racetrack I totally
46:42
forget about working on my suspension
46:45
okay and that's also something I need to
46:47
think about next year like even if I
46:49
struggle on track so try to dial the
46:52
bike because
46:53
we didn't touch the bike once and maybe
46:55
it could have helped me to write better
46:57
in the greasy conditions but yeah also
46:59
something I had to learn and like I mean
47:02
everybody knows Kami is a queen in the
47:04
mud so it's it's impressive and I hope I
47:07
can improve a little bit more on that as
47:08
well
47:10
so then we moved on to Monson and
47:12
obviously Kami had broken a collarbone
47:15
Miriam crashed in qualifying and you won
47:17
that by nearly 14 seconds that must have
47:21
given you a nice confidence boost after
47:22
the week before I was sick like I just
47:25
love the tracking
47:27
track is so cool when we had trackwork I
47:29
was a bit scared when they added the
47:31
extra section because I thought oh my
47:33
God the race only is going to be six
47:34
minutes long
47:35
actually my first time around was like
47:38
five minutes 40 or something I was like
47:40
oh my God this is gonna be so hard but
47:42
then yeah yeah I nearly went a minute
47:45
faster in my race run which is which is
47:48
kind of cool to see and also for I think
47:51
for a young athlete it's pretty cool to
47:54
win uh a race track like Andorra for
47:57
example but also to be good in in
48:00
Mountain Land because it's so physical
48:01
it's so long and people normally think
48:04
ah they don't have the experience or
48:06
blah blah or the fitness and for me
48:08
which was so cool like I really enjoyed
48:10
the racetrack nice just so you know um I
48:14
have quite a lot of tracks that are six
48:15
minutes long
48:21
Fort Williams nearly seven now the first
48:23
time I want to announce probably like 6
48:25
32 or something is it my first year the
48:30
crash a few times I couldn't hold up
48:31
honestly I honestly I think about those
48:33
the girls or whoever like is racing
48:36
because it's like so hard so physically
48:39
yeah
48:40
to hold on your handle but we're like
48:42
six minutes it's insane I think they
48:44
deserve also a price for surviving so
48:48
yeah I had I hadn't raced since well
48:51
last season and my first race this year
48:53
was the national at Fort William and I
48:54
haven't had any bike time or anything
48:56
and it was just it was just horrendous
48:58
it was just I'd done no gym no nothings
49:01
for all the off season no exercise
49:04
whatsoever and then just turned up at
49:06
Fort William with a bike and you it it
49:10
was just stupid I don't know why I did
49:11
it because I didn't really enjoy it but
49:13
it was like an achievement how do you
49:17
hold on like you're not struggling with
49:19
like arm pump because like every time I
49:21
come to Fort William like I can barely
49:22
hold on my elbow so it goes very slowly
49:25
down
49:29
it's not quite that bad but it was and
49:33
in my seeding run I was like I could not
49:35
I honestly don't know if I can do a full
49:37
run without stopping and then I went
49:39
that slowly that as I came through
49:42
um you know that bit where the wall ride
49:44
is near the bottom yeah I actually
49:46
thought to myself I'm not even out of
49:47
breath here this year
49:51
and I'll cross the line and it was this
49:53
the time was awful it was like seven
49:55
minutes or something it's terrible but
49:58
yeah wait you did it though yeah
50:01
okay so dipping back to Montana
50:03
um you were obviously then last woman
50:05
down with after the great quality uh
50:07
taking your second win and it did look
50:09
very composed Miriam had gone early did
50:13
you know she'd flattered before you
50:14
dropped in or not told you yeah so when
50:18
I rolled to the Stargate Matt looked at
50:20
his phone and looked to me and looked at
50:22
his phone and I was like oh my God
50:23
there's some information and then Matt
50:26
was like looking like looking at his
50:28
phone looking to me he's like do you
50:30
want to have some information he's like
50:31
well of course I want to have some
50:33
information if you're looking on your
50:34
phone all the time so like he told me
50:37
that uh Miriam had a flat tire and I
50:40
didn't just ride like I did last like
50:42
yesterday before and I didn't know that
50:46
Nina was going so fast
50:48
that was like riding like super smooth I
50:51
had so much fun but then I was like
50:53
thinking oh maybe I go too slow maybe I
50:55
need to go faster maybe I need to
50:56
because so I was like thinking so much
50:58
in my race run and then when I crossed
51:00
the line it was only three seconds
51:03
so it's always like you never know if
51:05
you could have pushed out or not like
51:06
honestly like you always try to give
51:08
your best but it's not helping to to
51:11
kind of know that
51:13
if you write well you can actually win
51:16
but you're not allowed to go too slowly
51:19
because everybody else is pushing so
51:20
hard as well so yeah yeah I was stoked
51:22
because it was also the first time I was
51:24
like doing welding quality and not
51:26
[ __ ] up my restaurant so
51:29
nice yeah Cami always said that it's the
51:32
best feeling when you qualify first and
51:33
then you win the race as well because
51:35
then when you cross the line you know
51:36
give one now so that's pretty special
51:39
yes if you came into Worlds week with uh
51:42
also a very blank bike you always have
51:44
kind of sick bikes for this one as well
51:46
pretty sick
51:48
um does that help you like to get your
51:50
number at hospice to have like a sick
51:52
bike and a sick kit for worlds
51:55
um I actually don't really like having a
51:57
new bike because it's all new and it's
51:59
like I don't know I'm always scared
52:02
about scratching stuff and also like I
52:05
don't want to have all the attention
52:07
like I don't really like you know like
52:10
having those articles about my bike and
52:12
blah blah because then for me I still
52:14
feel like a yeah it just puts a bit more
52:17
pressure on me and people have
52:19
expectations
52:20
so I kind of prefer to not after but I
52:24
guess now it doesn't really help like
52:26
you can't avoid it and it's sick though
52:28
like
52:28
all my sponsors put so much work in it
52:31
to make me look cool every single race
52:33
and really appreciate it
52:35
well I mean you're not the only one to
52:37
have a brand new
52:39
uh sick bike so I think it's only right
52:41
that you get one everyone gets one
52:43
almost so um even I used to get one and
52:46
I was like a pencils you know you
52:49
deserve one Valley don't worry for
52:52
example we
52:53
so many bikes like nearly every every
52:56
third race we got a new yeah this I
52:58
understand that I can understand your
53:00
point I could think but you don't like
53:03
when you have like a slow start to the
53:06
season you're like oh I I don't want to
53:07
have all the new stuff like give me some
53:10
when I'm doing well so yeah it's all
53:13
right yeah I understand what you mean so
53:15
what was you see the seated forth
53:18
um Miriam in a great run you're like
53:20
eight seconds back on her
53:23
um so we talked about you racing on your
53:26
uh in front of your home crowd in in Leo
53:28
gang but there was different like how
53:31
was it for you to race in front of the
53:33
crowd that was like cheering your main
53:36
competitor
53:38
um for me it was fine like it felt like
53:41
so much better than like racing in yoga
53:43
obviously you don't have so much media
53:46
attention you still have to do a lot of
53:47
stuff but it's not as bad as as it was
53:51
for Miriam obviously there was a lot of
53:53
pressure on her and I felt like I was a
53:56
bit piano dog also qualifying didn't
53:58
really go my way but also is watch him
54:01
so it's it's always like you don't
54:03
really care but you do care if you're so
54:05
far behind because I thought I had a
54:07
good run but then I saw the time I was
54:08
like nope it was not a good run sir had
54:11
a lot of work to do on this Racetrack
54:14
and yeah I had Batman memories from last
54:17
area because I crashed in the last
54:18
corner and had a concussion and stuff
54:20
like that so I don't know I just really
54:22
tried to to work on the track and spend
54:25
time on it and
54:27
yeah that's what I did on the extra day
54:29
of practice so yeah I was literally we
54:32
tested all the time when I was like
54:34
walking the track and filming she was
54:35
always there and yeah so obviously I see
54:39
you right and you look good all all
54:41
around and literally found 10 seconds
54:43
from qualifying to Eurasia and said like
54:46
that's a pretty crazy um Improvement
54:50
and you are also fastest on the first
54:52
three sectors so that's not unusual for
54:56
you to be fastest at the top of a track
54:59
um what's the plan to like go full gas
55:02
and try to hold on to the end or what is
55:05
the strategy going into the Run no there
55:08
was no plan at all
55:10
[Laughter]
55:13
I mean I always used to have a plan like
55:15
it's crazy like people just go I'm just
55:17
gonna raise my run
55:20
so that's okay yeah
55:23
every time I had a plan I [ __ ] it up
55:26
anyway so I was like it's just words
55:28
like you know there's another chance
55:31
next year whatever I don't really care
55:33
blah blah
55:34
I don't know then I went to this Target
55:37
and it was kind of chilled and then
55:41
I was hoping for a medal but in my head
55:44
it was more like a third place metal
55:46
kind of style
55:47
and when I was in the gate 10 seconds
55:51
before Matt normally Matt says nothing
55:54
and he was like get them that's what he
55:57
said
55:58
and then suddenly my brain switched and
56:01
I was like so into like [ __ ] yeah let's
56:04
go I don't care if I crash like
56:06
and then I was going so fast there's
56:09
like one section where you're like a
56:11
compression and you go steep down and
56:13
like you hit the burn like I felt so sad
56:16
that one oh it was so cool and I was
56:19
actually like four seconds up and then I
56:21
lost like nearly all the four seconds at
56:23
the last place because they're like okay
56:24
I hated those bike parts it was like a
56:27
steep bit with like Park turrets I lost
56:29
like quite a lot there and like
56:32
I always did the jumps fine in practice
56:35
like always perfect in my restaurant
56:37
like a case demo so it was a bit you
56:41
explain the best looking on those ones
56:43
to be honest from everybody else
56:45
like yeah but I cased it like I even
56:47
ripped my pants so I was scared but you
56:51
still like by Ma is like the best
56:54
looking girls on the bottom jumps for
56:55
sure no thank you so yeah across the
56:59
Finish didn't crashing last turn great
57:01
and there was still
57:03
coming yeah coming was still on top I
57:06
guess
57:07
yeah
57:09
yeah
57:10
just close my eyes and waited until calm
57:13
and finished and
57:15
suddenly I was world champion
57:17
yeah so tell us a bit what what
57:20
does it mean to you to be
57:22
to win worlds in the Elite field because
57:24
obviously you weren't was before but
57:27
that must have been pretty special
57:29
no it's it's sick because it was like so
57:32
unexpected like I said I it was not on
57:36
my agenda because
57:39
it I thought it's gonna happen when I'm
57:41
like I don't know maybe 24 25 like you
57:45
know I'm a bit more mature and
57:47
I've I don't know I didn't expect it
57:50
coming with with 20 so it's
57:53
I'm stoked like I'm not gonna give it
57:55
away like I'm happy I'm keeping it and I
57:59
don't know Stripes stay forever and I
58:01
also feel like it's insane how much
58:03
attention you get from people for
58:05
winning trust One race and your world
58:07
champion and when I won the overall last
58:10
year obviously there was a bit of black
58:11
involved but there's way less attention
58:14
on winning the overall even though for
58:16
an athlete it's so much
58:19
better and like if you're doing the
58:22
overall you're the best writer in the
58:23
world and if you want to watch and you
58:24
just perform really well on that one day
58:26
so it's kind of a hard Mission but the
58:29
media laws World Champs so whatever it's
58:32
sick like I like it
58:34
no it's true I noticed that with Cami as
58:36
well like in Switzerland everyone talked
58:38
about her when she won worlds and this
58:40
year after the overall it was way less
58:43
um blessed media so yeah you're totally
58:45
right on that so after watching there
58:48
was still a race that's also a little
58:49
bit unexpected to have a
58:51
woke up finding out the finals after the
58:54
war Champs
58:55
um he was second in your role
58:58
um your frustration The Strife
59:00
supplement that must have been pretty
59:01
cool
59:03
um so you weren't a star gate and I
59:05
don't know if you knew I guess maybe you
59:07
knew that if you when you take the
59:09
overall
59:10
but if you get seconds you won't
59:14
and I guess it was so pretty drained
59:16
afterwards week so tell us a bit about
59:18
this experience that moment well maybe
59:20
I'll tell you first a little story that
59:22
I think I'm the only world champion who
59:24
didn't party at the welcome party
59:26
because I was puking them you were sick
59:29
no or something
59:31
so like two hours after the world Champs
59:33
Podium I just started puking and spent
59:36
the whole night on the toilet and died
59:39
there was like a year a weird virus
59:41
going on in this year and a few teams
59:44
headed before or during the week and my
59:46
whole team had it during the week and I
59:49
was so scared to get it just on race day
59:51
and like I just got it like two hours
59:54
after the podium and I was like I was
59:56
like already changed to go to the party
59:59
I even went to the party and then I had
1:00:00
to rush back because I was so sick yeah
1:00:03
I remember that yeah
1:00:06
and I was like what
1:00:10
so yeah I didn't celebrate my world
1:00:12
Champs party which was really really sad
1:00:15
and yeah I was just so
1:00:19
tired coming into Valley so like there
1:00:21
was so much going on like so much media
1:00:24
attention I had to do so many interviews
1:00:25
on the way to Valley Sole and I had no
1:00:29
time to kind of process what just
1:00:30
happened because yeah we packed together
1:00:33
the next day and was like so
1:00:35
still super tired in fact the day after
1:00:38
and then we already had to go to Valley
1:00:40
Sole and I had to do so many phone calls
1:00:43
and interviews and it's sick because I
1:00:45
really enjoyed this kind of stuff but
1:00:48
also to be honest like I didn't care
1:00:51
about the last World Cup obviously yes
1:00:53
you want to do well I knew there was a
1:00:54
chance
1:00:55
but I had my stripes like that was so so
1:00:58
cool and I always said it anyway like
1:01:01
Tommy deserved overall 100 even before
1:01:04
the crash because she was she's writing
1:01:07
so so well
1:01:08
and yeah I don't know valisole was the
1:01:11
gnarliest drug I've ever seen and I ever
1:01:14
had to write that it was so so rough
1:01:16
like I've never I've not been scared but
1:01:19
it was not fun to ride at all like it
1:01:21
was so [ __ ] and I don't know I cruised
1:01:25
down in qualis and then I think Pom-Pom
1:01:28
had a flat tire Nina as well and
1:01:30
Tommy didn't even start or they should
1:01:33
just like yeah she just went for the
1:01:34
gate
1:01:35
and then like I had to start last and it
1:01:38
was sick like it could where my my
1:01:40
rainbow stripes and stuff and but I was
1:01:43
so tired like I think the virus and just
1:01:45
mentally I was so drained that I was
1:01:49
just losing time at the end of the track
1:01:51
and I just didn't want to get hurt and
1:01:53
came into of course my result at the end
1:01:56
I don't even heard I think oh yeah so I
1:01:58
got third it was for the neural and I
1:02:01
was just happy to be alive and and that
1:02:04
the season was over and then we had a
1:02:07
sick party and the day after I was sick
1:02:09
for two months now so great right into
1:02:13
the season
1:02:15
um I think you said
1:02:17
and tell me if I'm wrong but um valisol
1:02:20
is one of your least favorite tracks
1:02:23
is that right
1:02:24
yeah I think when we I know yeah feeling
1:02:28
you didn't really enjoy it as much as
1:02:31
the others but I think was it the only
1:02:33
one in your Junior ones where you didn't
1:02:34
win or something like that
1:02:36
that's why I don't like it
1:02:39
I don't know I think that's what I said
1:02:41
but I wanted the first first year but no
1:02:44
I actually really like it because I
1:02:46
prefer more technical tracks because I
1:02:48
feel like I can do better on them than
1:02:49
on like
1:02:51
fast forward ones and yeah I don't know
1:02:56
maybe because I crashed in World Champs
1:02:58
hard and I struggled at the same section
1:03:00
a bit and
1:03:01
I don't know I think you really need to
1:03:03
find the groove and turn your brain off
1:03:06
a little bit which I still can't really
1:03:08
do yet
1:03:10
well I just need to be confident with
1:03:12
riding faster on all your stuff I guess
1:03:14
that's how I should do it so you've
1:03:17
already kind of answered my next
1:03:19
question and I'm quite surprised about
1:03:20
it because my next question was going to
1:03:22
be cami's been super consistent this
1:03:24
season until the crash she's racing
1:03:27
valdi solo with a double plated
1:03:29
collarbone did any part of you think
1:03:31
[ __ ] cam deserves to win this and I was
1:03:34
I was thinking she's gonna say no no no
1:03:37
I want it but you were pretty you did
1:03:40
things you should win it the overall I
1:03:42
even said it like before like before she
1:03:45
crashed because like just the
1:03:46
consistency is insane and to be honest
1:03:49
I'm a bit jealous with their consistency
1:03:50
because I just can't do it I just keep
1:03:53
crashing all the time and it's so cool
1:03:56
because also I think mentally she's like
1:03:58
so confident and I am definitely not and
1:04:03
I guess that just comes with with
1:04:05
experience and routine and
1:04:07
just like to find your mojo I guess if
1:04:10
you if you're happy you're riding really
1:04:12
well and that's something I
1:04:14
I really admire yeah because also with
1:04:17
with it's interesting to see with uh
1:04:20
Pom-Pom like she's also quite often on
1:04:22
the edge like she's also crashing quite
1:04:24
a lot even though she's the same age as
1:04:26
Kami and Kami just keeps writing her
1:04:28
thing and it it's always good and
1:04:31
perfect and it's cool like if you can
1:04:34
find that
1:04:35
the perfect
1:04:37
how do you say like your perfect way to
1:04:40
ride it's it's amazing and yeah I I
1:04:43
didn't find it yet maybe I found it a
1:04:45
few times this season but
1:04:47
yeah consistency would be great
1:04:53
okay so I mean we've talked about it a
1:04:55
lot already but yourself Cam and Miriam
1:04:57
you've been in a little group of your
1:04:59
own this year and you all certainly got
1:05:01
something out of the Season uh cam won
1:05:04
the overall you a world champion and as
1:05:07
you said you got your stripes and Miriam
1:05:10
won the final round in valder Saw to
1:05:12
finish the season on the high for her to
1:05:14
put the win alongside her lenser hide
1:05:16
win
1:05:17
um
1:05:17
looking ahead to next year do you think
1:05:20
it'll be the three of you at the top
1:05:21
again or do you see oh we should not
1:05:23
forget about Nina Nina was like second
1:05:25
the last few races you know and Nina is
1:05:27
so strong and she's still like
1:05:30
really improving her writing skills
1:05:32
because
1:05:34
um
1:05:35
a dangerous one yeah it's gonna be gonna
1:05:39
be tough even if Maureen and Tanya
1:05:41
coming back like it's a pre-packed top
1:05:44
five already and
1:05:46
then we have the Juniors coming up
1:05:48
Phoebe and Gracie and Jenna and uh
1:05:53
yeah I'm cover so um it's going to be
1:05:55
hard for some of the older Elite Riders
1:05:57
to actually stay stay in and qualify
1:06:00
that's why I retired
1:06:01
[Laughter]
1:06:03
at the right time and also like I can't
1:06:06
wait to see some
1:06:09
style in the restaurants because like
1:06:11
the new generation they have some good
1:06:13
stuff like it's gonna be sick to watch
1:06:15
yeah for sure do you feel like
1:06:19
um
1:06:19
Nina and
1:06:21
um oh my brain's gone dead who else did
1:06:24
you just mention French been injured
1:06:25
marine marine yeah thank you do you feel
1:06:29
like um Nina and Maureen are kind of a
1:06:31
little bit like yourself in the the pace
1:06:34
is there and it's just waiting for that
1:06:37
consistency and finding the Rhythm and
1:06:39
then all of a sudden they'll they'll
1:06:41
start getting success as well well I
1:06:43
feel like Nino is consistent she only
1:06:46
crashed the first two races and then she
1:06:48
was there all the time like
1:06:51
it's it's uh yeah
1:06:54
scary
1:06:55
they're all so good but they all they
1:06:58
all have that confidence like it's so
1:07:00
cool to see him and also what I really
1:07:02
like about like Nina that she's so happy
1:07:05
for other people to do well as well like
1:07:07
when when I won months and then or World
1:07:11
Champs like she was so happy for me and
1:07:13
I was like oh my God like it's so cool
1:07:15
it isn't happy for me because obviously
1:07:17
I still struggle with that but I guess
1:07:19
it's just the way I am it's my
1:07:22
personality and I I'm happy for everyone
1:07:24
doing well but first I need to like
1:07:26
finish process what I just did and then
1:07:28
I can be happy for someone else yeah and
1:07:31
you know it's just like a super happy
1:07:32
happy human being and uh with Marine
1:07:35
like I didn't really see her watch
1:07:38
racing since I'm in Elite last season
1:07:41
last season she was also injured so yeah
1:07:44
she was consistent When Rachel was there
1:07:46
right like she was up there yeah
1:07:50
it was starting to build for sure yeah
1:07:53
so
1:07:55
yeah it guided that crashes a lot so
1:07:57
whether she's getting injured or not
1:07:59
like change she just crashed and didn't
1:08:01
get injured and after she crashed in
1:08:03
getting all the time so yeah we'll see
1:08:06
how long she takes to mentally get
1:08:08
strong
1:08:09
yeah and then maybe Rachel coming back
1:08:12
for some races that would be sick well
1:08:14
imagine it's gonna be super sick
1:08:17
so yeah wow it's um it so surprised me
1:08:21
but you're still only 20 years old if
1:08:24
you look at the last two seasons what
1:08:26
you've been through and what you've
1:08:27
achieved
1:08:28
all the people well not all of them yeah
1:08:31
all the people you've mentioned that
1:08:32
you're racing now probably would put
1:08:34
them as part of kind of Rachel's
1:08:35
generation you know Tony Marine maybe
1:08:40
not Nina but Miriam
1:08:42
um and cami's the same age as as Miriam
1:08:46
um
1:08:47
tell us a bit about the talent coming
1:08:49
through because people When Rachel was
1:08:51
racing in it people said
1:08:54
um we're never going to see this level
1:08:55
of domination again and I think we are I
1:08:59
think you're gonna dominate like Rachel
1:09:01
did but tell us
1:09:03
I don't think you quite think about that
1:09:05
idea so tell us about what you think
1:09:07
about the the people coming through I
1:09:10
mean
1:09:12
I mean it's just like two year and I
1:09:14
think I said
1:09:15
did I sorry that's fine like I I don't
1:09:19
know for me it feels like
1:09:21
I don't I never really thought about it
1:09:25
because I'm still struggling so much
1:09:27
with with myself and like having like a
1:09:30
proper race weekend that I never thought
1:09:32
about like
1:09:34
maybe doing like a perfect season like
1:09:37
she did I think it's so hard at the
1:09:38
moment because
1:09:40
even I think if Rachel had not a great
1:09:42
race run she still won for like nowadays
1:09:46
it's like impossible if you don't get
1:09:49
your
1:09:49
100 or like your race run you're not
1:09:52
gonna win I think maybe someone else is
1:09:55
crashing out and then then you're lucky
1:09:57
to win but
1:09:59
maybe you're then second because someone
1:10:00
else is going to be better and just I
1:10:03
think the field is so much more stacked
1:10:06
and the level is so much higher that
1:10:09
it's gonna be really really hard like
1:10:11
for sure so that's something I want to
1:10:14
ask you Vali we've we've we're hearing a
1:10:17
lot that you're having to work quite
1:10:20
hard on your own mental feelings at the
1:10:24
races and feeling like you've got um
1:10:26
what it takes to do what you want to do
1:10:28
and you've said that
1:10:30
other athletes have this confidence that
1:10:32
you don't feel like you have
1:10:34
do you feel it makes it harder for you
1:10:37
to have that with all the pressure
1:10:38
that's put on you externally because
1:10:40
ever since you were a junior people have
1:10:42
talked about how successful you're going
1:10:44
to be and as with George's questions
1:10:47
just asked suggesting that you'll be
1:10:50
super consistent and whatever the next
1:10:53
big athlete do you feel like it makes it
1:10:55
harder for you to just get your head
1:10:56
down and do your thing with all this
1:10:58
external Buzz yeah for sure first like I
1:11:02
thought I don't really feel it but now I
1:11:05
definitely do because I know how people
1:11:08
are are talking or writing stuff on the
1:11:12
internet and it's like yeah but now like
1:11:14
I already have all the titles you can
1:11:16
have so it's like I take them all off
1:11:18
like are you happy now that's why you
1:11:21
know
1:11:23
I probably didn't think it until this
1:11:26
you won worlds this season and the
1:11:28
reason I think it is because like worlds
1:11:30
is such a confidence thing
1:11:32
it you look at who wins in the men's for
1:11:36
example loik and Greg I'm sure it's to
1:11:38
do with once you've won it it relieves
1:11:40
the pressure you can sit in the start
1:11:41
gear and you don't have that that
1:11:43
pressure on you and you've in your first
1:11:47
two seasons you've won the two big
1:11:48
prizes for other races to get even get
1:11:51
there the Juniors to get there they're
1:11:53
not going to do it in the first two
1:11:54
seasons they're not going to do it
1:11:56
but not certain times like Jackson and
1:11:59
Jordan are in the men's and that would
1:12:00
podium in in the women's the ones that
1:12:03
are coming through I'm not saying
1:12:04
they're not going to be competitive but
1:12:06
they're not doing what you did yeah and
1:12:08
and that's why I think I you can see it
1:12:10
it's almost like they've got you're just
1:12:12
gonna get you know when you get to your
1:12:14
Peak you're just going to get stronger
1:12:16
you might have two or three World titles
1:12:18
or overalls by the time you get there
1:12:20
and you're going to get that confidence
1:12:22
that Rachel had of going out and like it
1:12:25
doesn't matter whether I almost win or
1:12:27
not because I've got these other wins
1:12:29
behind me and that's why I think you'll
1:12:32
you'll dominate I mean you're only 20.
1:12:34
it's
1:12:36
you live in it every day but when you
1:12:39
kind of step out of it you can see it
1:12:40
building up and you've done so much it's
1:12:43
it's it's really exciting but you're
1:12:45
excited about the future
1:12:47
the kids are going through sure yeah I
1:12:49
feel like I've I had to talk with Sven
1:12:52
with our photographer and it was really
1:12:54
cool because like see value now you take
1:12:56
the wall the the titles you can get now
1:12:59
you can just write like you can like you
1:13:01
don't have to think about winning those
1:13:04
things now it's just like [ __ ] ride
1:13:07
and I just yeah I had no energy in value
1:13:10
so let's do this but uh I think the next
1:13:13
few years is going to be exciting I'm
1:13:15
just gonna improve more in Italy like
1:13:17
I'm gonna get stronger and fitter and
1:13:19
yeah I yeah just I feel like I found my
1:13:23
mojo at the end of the season and I hope
1:13:25
this just continues going on and like I
1:13:28
can't wait it's gonna be sick yeah do
1:13:30
the nice thing for you is you can look
1:13:32
back at the last two years knowing that
1:13:34
you've achieved the World Cup overall
1:13:36
and the World Championships having not
1:13:39
ridden and raised how you want to
1:13:42
both seasons and you've still managed to
1:13:44
do it so
1:13:46
you can now do exactly what you've just
1:13:48
said you can go on and have the career
1:13:50
you want to have a race in the way you
1:13:52
want to knowing that you've already
1:13:53
ticked those things off and you can just
1:13:55
enjoy it pressure can almost like filter
1:13:58
away now
1:13:59
I hope so that's the way to look at it
1:14:02
because you've already done it how long
1:14:05
have you got run left to run with track
1:14:08
s uh we have one more season with Trek
1:14:10
yeah cool flowers um brand manager I'd
1:14:15
be I you would be the number one person
1:14:17
to try and sign
1:14:20
yeah so it talks about them
1:14:24
your thoughts about the future of Ali
1:14:26
with
1:14:27
um ESO discovery
1:14:29
and everything
1:14:31
um
1:14:32
yeah what do you think of the whole
1:14:33
situation what's your vision for the
1:14:36
for next year and the years to come
1:14:38
well obviously um I'm a bit brainwashed
1:14:42
by Rebel so everything I do is amazing
1:14:44
and I really loved it because I mean
1:14:47
that's how I grew up also like the first
1:14:49
time I watched Donald racing was on
1:14:51
Rebel TV so that's the only thing I know
1:14:52
so obviously I am a bit scared because
1:14:56
yeah I don't know if it's gonna work or
1:14:58
not or if my grandparents can still
1:15:01
watch it or if they need to find a
1:15:03
different way to watch it and also
1:15:05
commentary I mean the Lost Road Warner
1:15:07
so that's gonna be really painful for
1:15:10
the the age Community because he was
1:15:12
just the voice of the age it's yeah it
1:15:15
is what it is like everybody knows that
1:15:18
and also like a lot of my friends
1:15:20
austrians and Germans they're always
1:15:22
watch it in English because it's just
1:15:24
way more exciting than like listening to
1:15:26
a German
1:15:27
uh commentary so yeah I don't I don't
1:15:32
really know like I really like to see
1:15:34
that there's a bigger brand stepping
1:15:36
into and you know it's going to be maybe
1:15:38
more interesting for other sponsors
1:15:40
outside of the industry like the right
1:15:43
maybe we can get like
1:15:46
you know better salary like make it more
1:15:48
exciting bring it closer to to the
1:15:51
normal people and
1:15:52
I also heard a few rumors that you know
1:15:55
maybe there's a bit more money in the in
1:15:56
the sport that we also gonna race in
1:15:58
Australia again like Asia or like South
1:16:00
America like make it a proper World Cup
1:16:03
and not just the European Cup that would
1:16:04
be sick like
1:16:08
yeah
1:16:09
we'll see I mean I haven't heard much
1:16:11
more but I think for next year basically
1:16:14
a lot of things are going to stay
1:16:15
similar
1:16:16
but um
1:16:18
in the midterm I'm excited to see if
1:16:21
there are going to be some big changes
1:16:23
about
1:16:23
um venues and stuff because
1:16:25
obviously that's one of the reason I
1:16:27
stopped racing because the bunions were
1:16:29
always the same no for 10 years so
1:16:33
um yeah so we'll see it's gonna be
1:16:35
exciting
1:16:37
um tell us a bit about
1:16:38
um your download performance camp that
1:16:41
you were running this season I've seen
1:16:43
some stories and stuff and content about
1:16:45
that um you guys had a great time and
1:16:48
I've known there's gonna be some sick
1:16:50
Riders from from Austria in the next few
1:16:52
years
1:16:53
no I was sick like my plan was always to
1:16:55
do like uh like a camp thing or like do
1:16:58
something for
1:16:59
for the Austrian future because there's
1:17:02
just nothing happening with our national
1:17:03
team and I I got yeah I got really
1:17:06
pissed about it because like why is it
1:17:08
so hard to to organize something it's
1:17:10
not hard to like you know send out an
1:17:13
email and invite them for a weekend so
1:17:14
that's what I did like I sent out on
1:17:17
Instagram like girls could apply and I
1:17:19
chose uh five girls and invited them to
1:17:23
Tower Charlie and ride with me for three
1:17:25
days it was
1:17:26
it was just like one day after arrived
1:17:29
after mountain man so I was a bit tired
1:17:31
and chat like but it was it was fun and
1:17:34
uh yeah it was sick because like just
1:17:37
the speed those girls already have in
1:17:39
the bike park like they stick behind my
1:17:41
back wheel in the bike part like it's
1:17:43
insane and it's so cool that they
1:17:45
already have
1:17:46
that confidence with jumps and I think
1:17:49
it's really hard for
1:17:52
Prada for older athletes let's say to
1:17:55
like learn to get faster where they
1:17:57
already know how to how to ride fast
1:18:00
they just need to learn to write
1:18:02
technical stuff and
1:18:05
yeah I don't know like the style they
1:18:07
all have like no one can do can jump
1:18:09
straight anymore like they're all
1:18:10
whipping or the suicide or like scrap
1:18:13
and it's so sick it's so cool like I
1:18:16
love it and I'm gonna do one next year
1:18:18
as well this year was only for German
1:18:20
speaking girls and next day I want to do
1:18:22
it a bit more International just need to
1:18:25
find a good date so
1:18:27
nice yeah that's exciting stuff
1:18:30
um so it it's been two seasons last year
1:18:33
and the year before where you started a
1:18:36
bit slower slowly and then you finish
1:18:39
the season
1:18:40
on the high note and with the bank so
1:18:42
have you made a plan for 2023 yet
1:18:46
no plans for next year
1:18:50
I don't know I I'm like focusing now on
1:18:52
my ews in March because I don't want to
1:18:55
die
1:19:00
and then I don't know it's still so far
1:19:03
to go until June to of course
1:19:06
um yeah I think
1:19:08
I don't know like everything is fine if
1:19:10
I'm not getting injured or don't you
1:19:12
know if I get healthy finally I can
1:19:15
start training properly like
1:19:17
I have a good good training team around
1:19:19
me with Cecile and it's it's amazing I
1:19:22
get really well like we've met I have a
1:19:25
really good relationship now and we work
1:19:26
a lot on on the bike and you know it's
1:19:29
just getting more professional and I can
1:19:30
give more feedback and it's sick like I
1:19:33
love my my job in my life so it's fine
1:19:37
excellent a lot but thanks for making
1:19:39
the time to come on the Pod uh very much
1:19:41
appreciated enjoy the off season I hope
1:19:44
you can get well and uh best of luck for
1:19:46
next season
1:19:47
thank you
1:19:49
excellent we'll be back with Tebow
1:19:51
deprella after these messages
1:19:53
I'm delighted to welcome back to the Pod
1:19:55
one of my most favorite Riders to watch
1:19:57
Debo diprella how you doing yeah good
1:20:01
thank you how are you oh yeah all good
1:20:03
thank you whereabouts in the world are
1:20:05
you right now
1:20:07
man yeah is that is it Corsica
1:20:11
uh no this uh this is this weekend I'm
1:20:14
going to Costco sorry French cap and
1:20:16
your French cup and yeah we're traveling
1:20:19
for the past months but yeah I'm at home
1:20:22
for a few days cool so we we last caught
1:20:25
up around this time last year you were
1:20:27
coming into the off season with with the
1:20:29
ankle and thumb injuries did they keep
1:20:31
you off your feet for long
1:20:34
uh yeah last year I was uh how to be
1:20:38
injured for the accident because he is
1:20:41
good in the accident to to enjoy and do
1:20:44
a few different things
1:20:45
but this year again I just had a little
1:20:48
surgery but just take two weeks and now
1:20:52
I'm back on the bike so it's a way
1:20:53
quicker than last year yeah yeah so you
1:20:57
know it's perfect I can enjoy now I
1:20:59
think it was I think it was Christmas
1:21:00
before you were back on the bike last
1:21:02
year is that right
1:21:04
ah yeah yeah yeah it was really late
1:21:08
so a bit of time has passed now when you
1:21:12
look back at the 2021 season how do you
1:21:15
feel about it
1:21:17
uh uh was really good compared to this
1:21:20
year
1:21:22
but uh no I don't know a lot of
1:21:27
[Music]
1:21:29
emotions and a lot of things you know it
1:21:32
was a amazing season and it will be in
1:21:37
my mind for a long time for sure because
1:21:39
uh it reads a lot of problems and good
1:21:42
races so with good memories and yeah
1:21:47
I'm not feeling crazy you ended up
1:21:49
second in the overall
1:21:51
do you still look on that back do you
1:21:53
look back on that now as like a a
1:21:55
massive achievement or are you still a
1:21:57
little bit disappointed that you didn't
1:21:59
manage to get first
1:22:01
no it's been over a year now and didn't
1:22:04
think about it anymore I'm just more in
1:22:06
the future right now you know yeah so we
1:22:08
did already one season after this 2021
1:22:12
in 2022 I did not nothing crazy this
1:22:16
season just in nothing pretty good so
1:22:20
now I'm really in the future and trying
1:22:21
to work and get better
1:22:24
cool
1:22:25
just uh coming into uh 2022
1:22:29
um after everything we talked about
1:22:31
right now
1:22:33
um did you have a plan for the 2022
1:22:35
season other than just go full gas like
1:22:38
you always do
1:22:40
no I didn't have any plan just uh try to
1:22:43
be as good as the 2021 or just maybe be
1:22:48
a bit better on some point but at the
1:22:50
end I was at the beginning of the system
1:22:52
I was not really prepared because uh
1:22:54
I've been late on the bike and less
1:22:56
prepared because of these little
1:22:58
injuries but they were quite long for
1:23:01
the little detours but uh
1:23:05
then I'll just try to write the the best
1:23:09
I can but maybe not
1:23:11
as much risk as I took maybe the year
1:23:14
before but he
1:23:16
has not worked because I did some less
1:23:20
good result just in four wheeler was
1:23:22
very good and then I didn't mistake I
1:23:24
crashed and uh I was slow sometimes the
1:23:28
the threading too safe and
1:23:30
a lot of mistakes but I learned a lot
1:23:33
again this year maybe more than last
1:23:35
year even yeah
1:23:37
yeah so talking about the races one
1:23:39
after another like the season first
1:23:41
started in taruka I think in Portugal
1:23:44
um you had a flat tire in your in your
1:23:47
race run
1:23:49
um but I'm already Miriam in Hugo we're
1:23:52
all like really on Pace and one there so
1:23:55
I guess like this was also a good start
1:23:57
for for the team for the knockoff team I
1:23:59
had a good good atmosphere I'm coming to
1:24:03
the first World Cup
1:24:04
yeah for sure this race was really good
1:24:06
uh in the quality it was really fast but
1:24:09
I crashed the last corner but at the end
1:24:10
my time was really quick and then uh was
1:24:14
uh for the final I had a good run but I
1:24:17
I had to stop and do a rerun yeah
1:24:19
because uh crash crap the guy crashed
1:24:21
really bad and then this run uh maybe we
1:24:25
didn't have to check the bike and stuff
1:24:26
and I had a flat tire so it was a
1:24:30
a big shitty but it's like that you know
1:24:32
and then coming to um Lord I was uh very
1:24:35
excited I feel ready but uh just one
1:24:38
week we followed I had covered so I just
1:24:42
arrived I was
1:24:43
covered free but uh it was really like
1:24:47
uh sick you know the the hug was like I
1:24:50
was like being so bad but I was feeling
1:24:53
good on the bike
1:24:54
and uh yeah maybe a bit too much and I
1:24:58
crashed pretty bad but no injury I was
1:25:02
lucky just one week without working
1:25:05
really good but the rest was good but it
1:25:07
was a big bummer because uh start
1:25:09
decision like that was a with two crash
1:25:12
and two bad races was not free
1:25:14
not really good after what I had the
1:25:17
last few races there before
1:25:20
yeah so you're forcing quality and like
1:25:22
I said you we all can remember your
1:25:24
crashing in that three and I guess um
1:25:27
closest George's bro in the script like
1:25:30
how's the tree doing because you hit it
1:25:32
so hard it looks you're looking like a
1:25:33
pretty Savage hit uh I'm a solid Rider
1:25:36
so I guess you weren't really phased
1:25:39
about that yeah it was fast fast crash
1:25:43
yeah
1:25:44
and I took the win
1:25:46
um
1:25:46
how like I I know we talk about a lot
1:25:50
about this like when he was on the
1:25:52
podcast like you guys have a a good
1:25:54
chemistry I can push each other but I
1:25:56
guess sometimes you still want to be in
1:25:58
front like he was saying I still want to
1:26:00
be in front of people you know so was it
1:26:01
the same for you like were you a bit
1:26:03
disappointed when you took the win no
1:26:05
absolutely not because you know uh the
1:26:08
year before it was not really highest
1:26:10
level and compared to what he did the
1:26:12
year before and uh was taught for him
1:26:14
because he won and it's been quite a
1:26:16
while that he didn't want to race so
1:26:18
absolutely not I was really happy and uh
1:26:22
yeah no no for sure
1:26:25
so sixth the Fort William Dash no just
1:26:29
you and your mechanic working out of the
1:26:31
back of the ground
1:26:32
which was pretty low-key I was quite
1:26:34
surprised to see that but it seemed to
1:26:36
work and then on to the World Cup coming
1:26:39
into that race Emery was on the full 29.
1:26:42
did you think about going that way
1:26:51
no no it's too too big this wheel in the
1:26:54
back for me I'm too small so
1:26:57
you P2 you adjust four tenths back on
1:27:01
Amory and it all came down to the Sprint
1:27:03
and we asked him about it and he said he
1:27:05
he'd be pretty pissed if if you beat him
1:27:07
in a Sprint because he's five years
1:27:09
older and you're you're only just at the
1:27:11
start of your Elite career he's
1:27:13
sprinting something you're working on
1:27:15
this off season
1:27:17
uh I work it every year but for sure I'm
1:27:21
getting older and I try to be stronger
1:27:23
and uh
1:27:24
yeah you need to be prepared for 40 I
1:27:27
mean next year it's a world championship
1:27:28
so yeah I hope I will be stronger than
1:27:30
him next year on this pillar section
1:27:34
are you are you a fan of fall William
1:27:37
uh absolutely not
1:27:41
like I'm not fun I really like this
1:27:43
track because it's a really tough long
1:27:46
and strange but I've never been really
1:27:48
really good on this track so that's why
1:27:50
my goal was to be the best can for this
1:27:54
race then I was really stoked about this
1:27:56
place because secondly from William uh
1:27:58
it's amazing and when you even if I was
1:28:00
just really close to the wind Armory has
1:28:04
been good for years on this track so
1:28:07
second place was like a win for me in
1:28:09
Korea on this track
1:28:11
dude I love about doing this podcast is
1:28:14
that everyone always told me or thought
1:28:17
William is so good Fort William's so
1:28:19
good and I went and wrote it and I was
1:28:20
like I can't believe people really enjoy
1:28:22
this
1:28:24
trials
1:28:28
trained then I was like I would
1:28:30
recommend to any of my friends
1:28:34
no no it's long it's uh you can broke
1:28:38
Wheels everywhere it's physical there's
1:28:41
wind like it's terrible but you have a
1:28:45
good viewer to stop
1:28:46
that's a good point so when Emery took
1:28:50
the win there I don't think I've seen
1:28:52
anyone ever more delighted that their
1:28:55
teammate has has won
1:28:57
and it's not just happened at that race
1:28:59
it happened a few times this season tell
1:29:00
us a bit about not necessarily a
1:29:03
relationship with Emery but what it's
1:29:05
like being on on the team with someone
1:29:07
when they are
1:29:08
clearly the fastest Rider on the circuit
1:29:12
that this season
1:29:14
do you does it add to the pressure or
1:29:17
does it take a bit of pressure away from
1:29:19
you or does it not really affect you
1:29:21
no there is no no more pressure it can
1:29:24
be just an help because you know
1:29:26
as he's fast every race you know if you
1:29:29
just follow him and you know you are as
1:29:31
fast as him you know you can win the
1:29:32
race so it's pretty helpful I would say
1:29:35
yeah and do you follow each other in
1:29:37
practice quite a lot and you share lines
1:29:41
we shall lights but we don't really like
1:29:43
to follow each other we don't like to
1:29:45
follow anyone I guess
1:29:49
so we try to discuss and exchange about
1:29:52
lines and stuff but not really follow
1:29:55
each other and uh yeah it's not I don't
1:30:00
like that it's not really helpful you
1:30:02
can see where you're going and tell me a
1:30:04
bit about the Telemetry you've had on
1:30:06
the bike this season because you see you
1:30:08
guys seem to run it a lot
1:30:10
uh yeah
1:30:12
plus yeah I think we were in more than
1:30:15
the past few years maybe because uh
1:30:17
maybe this year we know more how to use
1:30:20
it and uh maybe help us to to focus more
1:30:24
on the lines and now on Earth than on
1:30:26
the bike so yeah well did I even think
1:30:31
about that it's just the Archer the
1:30:33
engineering just take about take care
1:30:35
about this it just takes the data does
1:30:38
is your bike set up very differently
1:30:40
between tracks or is it pretty much the
1:30:43
same no no no it's pretty much the same
1:30:46
with tracks we just make few changes to
1:30:49
make it perfect but uh no we didn't
1:30:51
change that much
1:30:53
so Leah gang p7 in quality in some awful
1:30:57
conditions
1:30:58
you were and then in your restaurant you
1:31:00
were full attack
1:31:02
chin on the bars near the top uh getting
1:31:05
wild but you didn't seem to have any
1:31:07
special lines up there this last um this
1:31:09
year last year I remember you telling me
1:31:11
you had special lines up there and I
1:31:12
think you were like three seconds
1:31:13
quicker than anybody else at the first
1:31:15
split tell us a bit about Lee again
1:31:18
yeah absolutely uh
1:31:21
uh nothing crazy as you say no crazy
1:31:23
Lines no crazy speed maybe you'll be too
1:31:26
confident on the track you know I knew I
1:31:28
was fast on this track and
1:31:31
so it's been quite not helpful so yeah
1:31:36
really bad race uh compared to how I
1:31:39
like this track uh was really slow even
1:31:43
quality p7 was not crazy
1:31:45
and then I crashed in the Steep section
1:31:48
but I didn't
1:31:49
see me crashing you know I crash but uh
1:31:53
I didn't there is nothing crazy on the
1:31:55
floor and was just uh maybe uh I lose
1:31:58
the focus on this part
1:32:01
so yeah
1:32:03
really shitty race
1:32:07
yeah so um until that that point until
1:32:11
trying to like push really hard to win
1:32:14
everywhere so maybe it didn't feel like
1:32:16
that to you but for us watching it
1:32:18
looked like you were like going really
1:32:20
full on and
1:32:22
um after that race
1:32:25
um maybe there's a bit of change of
1:32:26
strategy and and maybe you stop risking
1:32:30
that much but I kind of have the feeling
1:32:32
that you're gonna
1:32:33
have a different opinion about this is
1:32:36
it true that you maybe thought oh I
1:32:39
crashed in this race and this was maybe
1:32:40
I should like your church right after
1:32:43
this race uh
1:32:46
it starts to be even bad bad
1:32:49
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1:32:51
even worse than uh try to stop taking
1:32:54
risks and start to be slow and it's been
1:33:07
so I guess it was not like you were
1:33:10
thinking about the overall it's more
1:33:11
like you like
1:33:13
maybe try to like find the right balance
1:33:15
between attacking and it's I know it's
1:33:17
not it's not easy like of course I
1:33:20
raised myself I know how it is but like
1:33:22
how do you like did you find it in the
1:33:25
end or like how how is it to deal with
1:33:28
that kind of mental stuff no I tried to
1:33:30
found it for
1:33:32
but from Lanza right to
1:33:35
uh mostatan I try to
1:33:39
to fund a good balance but uh didn't
1:33:41
achieve the easy goal so even after more
1:33:43
Satan just before Asia was uh still not
1:33:47
me you know I was running slow and not
1:33:50
pretty good on the bike not feeling good
1:33:51
so and you can sell my results I did
1:33:54
nothing crazy just in Snowshoe because
1:33:57
it was wet and you know when it's wet
1:33:58
there is no problem for me but I crashed
1:34:01
one more time because I was trying to to
1:34:04
push her as the first like the first
1:34:06
races and try to win not think about the
1:34:08
boy German you know it's good sometimes
1:34:10
just to have a problem and I think my
1:34:13
head was just to win because I could
1:34:15
have win this face but you know it's
1:34:17
like that but
1:34:19
now I was uh the the feeling and the
1:34:23
speed and the good balance between speed
1:34:26
and risk and everything was back in
1:34:28
nature I was really fast in Nigeria
1:34:30
really good on the bike
1:34:32
even if I had a small crash in the in
1:34:36
the Korea I think it was very really
1:34:37
fast
1:34:38
but then in final once again I was lost
1:34:42
between risk and I don't want to crash
1:34:44
and I was super super slow
1:34:47
well I guess Leisure is hard for for you
1:34:51
guys as frenchmens as well we have a lot
1:34:52
of expectation on yourself and
1:34:54
especially in a situation where like not
1:34:57
everything is going to plan this season
1:35:00
um even if you have a good feeling it's
1:35:01
hard to like put it together for race
1:35:03
run did you did you feel like the added
1:35:05
pressure with your family there like was
1:35:07
it a bit different than usual not really
1:35:09
no for me it was the same as usual I was
1:35:12
just even more angry too to have a good
1:35:14
race and just show to everybody that uh
1:35:17
I was kind of still there but
1:35:20
and I was as I was really enjoying the
1:35:23
track and I think I was really fasting
1:35:26
in the practice uh some people were
1:35:29
starting to tell me oh yeah really good
1:35:31
you're faster it's you it's your time go
1:35:34
go and it was like at a start
1:35:36
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1:35:37
I was like uh trying to slow myself yeah
1:35:43
and then it was like I was slow on the
1:35:46
track not just in my head yeah but
1:35:49
that's like something that I've when you
1:35:51
told me this it's like it makes me think
1:35:53
of Bernard when it has been like this
1:35:55
for years he was just like oh it's so
1:35:58
fast in time practice and then it was
1:36:00
getting like
1:36:02
slightly a little bit faster but
1:36:03
everybody else will gain so much faster
1:36:05
and even thinking he was up there but
1:36:07
then he was just like
1:36:09
not fast enough on race day
1:36:11
so I could I think it was like it's it's
1:36:16
a struggle for a lot of valid writers to
1:36:18
just find your peaking pace
1:36:20
yeah I don't want to take too many risks
1:36:23
like you don't want to crash like injure
1:36:24
yourself and go over
1:36:26
so yeah it's it's very tricky and I
1:36:30
think it's even harder when you are
1:36:31
beautiful
1:36:32
it's even harder when you have been fast
1:36:34
and you've been on the podium for a lot
1:36:35
of races The U is different because
1:36:37
you've been there
1:36:39
so yeah and it was being quick like it
1:36:42
happens really quickly that for the
1:36:44
first year for my first eight years so
1:36:46
it was just my third year in Elite and
1:36:49
the first year I really struggled on the
1:36:52
World Cup even since junior category so
1:36:55
you know it's not the
1:36:57
it's not a problem you know I'm still
1:36:58
really young it was just my third year
1:37:00
and yeah yeah I prefer to struggle now
1:37:02
then here you know a hundred percent it
1:37:06
the way that the points are stacked as
1:37:08
well for in World Cup racing it's it's
1:37:11
almost better to get a Podium and then
1:37:14
not do too well for two races than it is
1:37:17
to just be inside the top 20 for three
1:37:19
races in a row isn't it it kind of
1:37:21
really encourages you to to try and get
1:37:23
that podium
1:37:26
yeah I think so
1:37:28
because like that you don't have you
1:37:30
don't lose the confidence of crashing
1:37:32
when you crash you know you think a lot
1:37:33
you have a lot of creatures in your head
1:37:35
when you have 10 or 15 and you just
1:37:38
wrote normally you know you can do
1:37:42
better yeah when you crash you cannot
1:37:45
really know what you do because you
1:37:46
didn't arrive to the Finish Line yeah so
1:37:49
is that I mean in Worlds you've got
1:37:52
fourth place in quality with a crash
1:37:54
yeah
1:37:56
um you must have been stoked with that
1:37:58
yeah it was a super stuck I was like it
1:38:02
was amazing because I go to my to me
1:38:05
yeah so I I had somebody out there who I
1:38:09
know and he messaged me and he was like
1:38:12
um table looks like the fastest man on
1:38:13
the track and so when you when it came
1:38:15
to real estate I was like come on Teva
1:38:18
this is this is it this is your time but
1:38:20
you everybody else went quicker by quite
1:38:24
a long way
1:38:26
yeah if you
1:38:28
what have you learned from from that
1:38:33
I learned a lot for sure yeah but
1:38:37
um learned that yeah for sure World
1:38:39
Championships uh it's a special race you
1:38:42
know uh you need to be
1:38:45
specifically prepared to each race and
1:38:48
uh yeah you don't you need to be 100
1:38:51
focused and be the fast and take the
1:38:55
older risk you can take yeah you know
1:38:57
it's what like did and did it on this
1:39:00
day and not in practice or the other
1:39:03
days because the other day you can see
1:39:05
it on the track it was not the fastest
1:39:06
man but on race day it was the fastest
1:39:08
and it's what you need to be so yeah
1:39:12
it's a good example so yeah yeah I was I
1:39:16
think my restaurant was slower than my
1:39:19
quality runs with a crash you know
1:39:21
without crashing I was slurring The
1:39:23
Wristband and inequalities yeah I think
1:39:26
you're on the same second I don't know
1:39:28
which which way it was yeah yeah
1:39:32
it's crazy so valdisol was going really
1:39:35
well seeded sixth finished 11th wait I
1:39:39
was looking at the splits and you lost
1:39:40
two to three seconds to everyone in the
1:39:43
final sector Yeah I broke my rear wheel
1:39:45
ah right yeah yeah wait I would say um
1:39:51
you have the tight corners and and then
1:39:53
you yes
1:39:55
that's why I lost the I lost the ten
1:39:58
position because I was not going for a
1:40:00
position for sure I wasn't I think if
1:40:03
you
1:40:03
keep a normal time without the rear
1:40:06
wheel problem I was like seven or eight
1:40:08
and what cost me this place and what
1:40:11
cost me the top 10 uh overall yeah
1:40:13
because of medium which is terrible just
1:40:17
for yes for that but you know you were
1:40:20
only three points behind Greg I think
1:40:22
who got ten in there yeah yeah maybe
1:40:25
so it was a great season for the team
1:40:28
but it was a bit of a strange end to the
1:40:30
season because Emery won the overall but
1:40:33
he didn't have this well didn't have a
1:40:35
great race in Valley so yeah Miriam
1:40:38
morning Valley saw and finished second
1:40:40
in the overall you ended up 11th just
1:40:42
three points behind Greg as I just said
1:40:44
common Sam muckoff took the the team the
1:40:47
overall team prize
1:40:49
but it wasn't that euphoric end that
1:40:52
races I think everybody who races wants
1:40:55
that euphoric finish to a season don't
1:40:57
they where they come down they win the
1:40:58
La the last person down the hill they
1:41:00
win the race to take the overall to win
1:41:02
everything that's the ultimate kind of
1:41:04
Prize did it feel a bit strange to you
1:41:07
as a as a racer at the end of the season
1:41:09
given the teams won
1:41:12
yeah it was really strange for me
1:41:15
because uh the end of the student it's
1:41:17
where I was the the better on the bike
1:41:19
and I was feeling good and for me was
1:41:21
like oh I want more race you know I want
1:41:22
more wall caps yeah and uh for sure for
1:41:25
the team they were a bit
1:41:27
um disappointed or
1:41:29
not for Miriam for sure because she won
1:41:32
but America asked me was the three good
1:41:33
but at the end even if I was 11 I marked
1:41:36
some points for the team overall and
1:41:38
it's because of me a little bit that we
1:41:41
can won this award
1:41:43
um so it was a really good you know
1:41:48
but you know it just made me as more
1:41:51
Angry to to do better next year and to
1:41:53
be stronger you know yeah
1:41:56
racing is so strange because
1:41:58
as you've said you said you've had your
1:42:01
hardest year ever in Junior and delay
1:42:05
Charlie Hatton who is 24 years old an
1:42:09
amazing Rider one of the best British
1:42:11
Riders he's had the best season of his
1:42:13
career he's finished 12th in the overall
1:42:15
behind you and it's how people look at
1:42:17
things is very different you know you're
1:42:20
only 21 and you've finished 11th
1:42:23
um I think at one point when me and Emmy
1:42:25
were chatting on the Pod I described
1:42:26
this as being like a difficult second
1:42:28
album you know when a band has a really
1:42:31
big hit single a big hit album and then
1:42:33
they come back and they've got to try
1:42:35
and replicate that success how how do
1:42:37
you feel about it now when you look back
1:42:39
are you just hungry to go again
1:42:41
yeah for sure I'm just angry and I I
1:42:44
already think a lot about what happens
1:42:46
so now I'm really into the future and I
1:42:50
will be more popular than ever for next
1:42:52
year for sure
1:42:53
so what are you working on anything
1:42:56
specific are you back on the bike now
1:42:59
yeah for the moment I'm for sure I'm not
1:43:01
training uh really hard I'm just uh
1:43:03
going from a mixed ride uh e-bike and
1:43:08
car races you know we have the time to
1:43:10
be prepared the next season is far away
1:43:13
but uh I just try to to enjoy the time
1:43:16
on the bike and uh try to have some fun
1:43:19
and um
1:43:20
slowly back into a proper training and
1:43:24
art training yeah
1:43:26
so um when when do the team camps start
1:43:31
I don't know yet
1:43:34
um maybe I think maybe before the end of
1:43:38
the year yeah I think maybe one and then
1:43:40
uh the same reason as we did the past
1:43:43
few years uh I don't know yet I need to
1:43:46
talk about that with the reference about
1:43:48
the bus
1:43:50
and you've had a few weeks off since the
1:43:53
end of the season tell us a bit about
1:43:54
where you've been going
1:43:55
yeah for sure I took I don't know yeah
1:44:00
more than a month yeah I have no more
1:44:03
battery can you hear me yeah yeah it's
1:44:06
fine yeah yeah yeah
1:44:07
without these things I nearly made it
1:44:14
we had the friendships yeah we're really
1:44:19
good but I crashed once again
1:44:21
but
1:44:23
does it feel a bit like every time
1:44:24
you've gone really fast this season
1:44:26
you've crashed yeah for sure for sure
1:44:28
but I crash but that's it
1:44:32
then I just enjoy for one week I write a
1:44:37
lot of photo and coaching and then
1:44:40
surgery to remove the plate I had in the
1:44:43
in my right feet
1:44:46
so this took me off for
1:44:50
two weeks yeah two weeks uh you know the
1:44:54
first week you are like uh just walking
1:44:55
and not doing crazy stuff and then days
1:44:58
after days you you can do more stuff and
1:45:02
then I went uh a few days with my friend
1:45:05
in Dubai uh
1:45:08
I also went to Spain and last week no no
1:45:13
yeah last week we were in Caboto surfing
1:45:15
with the team it was a
1:45:24
cool that looks Wicked are you good
1:45:26
Surfer uh
1:45:32
but ahead going back to you know in the
1:45:35
sea to take the wave you know
1:45:37
when you need to go back it's horrible
1:45:39
so that's why I did twice surfing but
1:45:43
it's enough for me
1:45:44
tell us just a bit about French national
1:45:46
champs have you have you won that before
1:45:48
as a junior
1:45:50
uh yeah engineer one uh I own a new
1:45:53
category in Junior and Junior an
1:45:56
engineer won the junior title plus the
1:45:58
elite title in the same year oh yeah I
1:46:01
remember yeah yeah yeah because I don't
1:46:03
know nothing crazy
1:46:05
and you were really going for it this
1:46:07
year because the other guys were a
1:46:10
little bit they weren't really feeling
1:46:11
it were they like and Loris and Amory I
1:46:14
don't think
1:46:17
um going very fast because I think it's
1:46:21
sacred of fruit I don't know yeah so
1:46:24
yeah yeah it was uh I think when you are
1:46:27
maybe in practice everybody was a bit
1:46:30
chilling for us also we were testing we
1:46:33
were not really focused as on Rocket but
1:46:35
when you're on the Stargate you are
1:46:36
giving everything so
1:46:39
no everybody is was going really fast
1:46:43
and Antoine was going really fast he won
1:46:45
the race and uh even
1:46:48
like it was impressive and uh yeah but
1:46:52
also was pushing very hard but he had a
1:46:55
flat tire
1:46:57
and um
1:46:58
but the truck was really good also like
1:47:01
it was a bit of friendships French
1:47:04
French cup track but uh
1:47:07
it was fun to write it's good to end the
1:47:10
the season on a that it was not an easy
1:47:13
track but it was not really hard as well
1:47:15
listen because if after Valley sir you
1:47:17
have another track like that
1:47:21
back on the holiday now we're going to
1:47:23
the beach and tell tell us a bit one
1:47:26
thing you just mentioned all the talent
1:47:28
that the French have got at the minute
1:47:30
what was it like being on that team at
1:47:32
Worlds being with that team we saw
1:47:36
stacked with Talent
1:47:38
yeah for sure it's amazing to see I
1:47:41
don't even know why
1:47:43
um all the French French writers are so
1:47:46
fast at this time because you can see
1:47:48
maybe
1:47:49
five or maybe seven years ago when loik
1:47:54
was engineer he was maybe one year of
1:47:56
the only one fast maybe I'm wrong but uh
1:47:58
no no no that was I think it's that and
1:48:02
just few years after you have so many
1:48:04
white doves coming so it is so good to
1:48:07
see that and I hope it will stay like
1:48:09
that for a few years and I hope the the
1:48:12
young guys the the younger Generations
1:48:15
are going to be faster and
1:48:18
and and you all get on pretty well don't
1:48:20
you do you right you all get on very
1:48:23
well you're good friends with loik and
1:48:25
Laurie yeah we're all friends
1:48:27
not for sure and did you write together
1:48:30
at Worlds
1:48:32
uh no no no I should not write with
1:48:35
anybody at all it was a bit alone
1:48:39
keeping your lines to yourself yeah
1:48:44
cool so tell us a bit you're going to
1:48:45
Corsica this weekend French French cup
1:48:48
is no I think I'm I think it's a French
1:48:51
cup I'm doing it on the e-bike so all
1:48:54
right oh yeah I'm not sure if I will
1:48:57
write flatbed also not but uh uh today I
1:49:01
try to write flatbed also maybe I will
1:49:03
ride flat bills
1:49:05
and is this an Enduro is this
1:49:10
I'm pretty sure I need to check because
1:49:12
uh I don't even know where I'm going so
1:49:16
yeah uphill stage as well like in the
1:49:19
NWS or no sadly uh I think but I don't
1:49:23
know I don't even know how it's working
1:49:25
I just uh I'm going with my back I'm
1:49:28
riding my bike having some fun and we'll
1:49:31
see how it's working I hope I will have
1:49:33
enough battery
1:49:35
do you think we might see you on the ews
1:49:38
some point
1:49:39
I was supposed to do finale right but I
1:49:44
prefer to have the surgery and you know
1:49:48
having more time to to be prepared and
1:49:50
enjoy after than doing finale and being
1:49:53
after surgery after so
1:49:57
but
1:49:58
um
1:49:59
maybe if there is one rate before the
1:50:02
downhill season just to get prepared you
1:50:04
know to have the good physique but um
1:50:15
I need to choose the good venue because
1:50:17
yeah
1:50:18
for me to to do some appeals maybe my
1:50:22
image was saying how they couldn't make
1:50:24
the next change almost they had to
1:50:25
Sprint to the next stage because it's
1:50:27
too short I believe it's almost like too
1:50:29
short in time so they were like they all
1:50:32
had like maybe one minute two minutes
1:50:34
before they started so apparently it was
1:50:36
a real stressful oh yeah that's
1:50:38
something I can do but maybe it's good
1:50:41
to have some Sprints in the stage but
1:50:43
between stage
1:50:45
I think the lift or I don't know just a
1:50:48
few minutes of pedaling not hours and
1:50:50
hours
1:50:53
have you ever done the maker Avalanche
1:50:56
no never yeah it's so scary
1:51:00
yeah 100 kilometers on the snow is
1:51:02
pretty I remember can you imagine that I
1:51:05
never tried but I don't know that's
1:51:07
something I like to watch you know some
1:51:10
GoPros videos but it's too dangerous to
1:51:13
do that when you have a season uh to do
1:51:17
like the World Cups you cannot do this
1:51:19
type of phrase which which is a big risk
1:51:21
I think even if it's really funny and
1:51:23
can be interesting to do but yeah I
1:51:26
think it's too much risk have you done
1:51:28
Omega Ruby no no never fancy yeah
1:51:33
like you said like now I stopped racing
1:51:36
because I don't want to get injured and
1:51:37
when you raise down you're alone on a
1:51:39
track so basically you have you you can
1:51:42
control your own faith right yeah and
1:51:44
you're right riding with other people
1:51:46
like 100 people at the time it's just so
1:51:50
dangerous like he said like someone was
1:51:51
like what happened to Tracy this year
1:51:53
yeah knocked out because someone ran
1:51:56
into her and she got ridden over about a
1:51:58
rider you don't want that so
1:52:01
um I don't know I don't feel like I want
1:52:03
to raise any money especially not
1:52:06
something that physical and I like to
1:52:08
prepare myself for something and I don't
1:52:10
want to train that much anymore so I
1:52:12
guess this is
1:52:16
yeah cool well thanks very much for
1:52:19
coming on the show again table it's
1:52:21
always great to chat to you and we're
1:52:23
we're loving loving following your
1:52:24
career in Italy
1:52:26
um I hope you can keep up going full of
1:52:28
gas again next season
1:52:30
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