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Hello, Benjamin from Single Track here
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Hello, Benjamin from Single Track here
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Hello, Benjamin from Single Track here and today I'm going to give you a deep
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and today I'm going to give you a deep
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and today I'm going to give you a deep dive through the new Meura Gustaf Pro
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dive through the new Meura Gustaf Pro
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dive through the new Meura Gustaf Pro Mega Break.
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Oh yeah.
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The Mura Gustaf, for those of my age or
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The Mura Gustaf, for those of my age or
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The Mura Gustaf, for those of my age or older, may remember the original Gustaf
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older, may remember the original Gustaf
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older, may remember the original Gustaf in the naughties,
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in the naughties,
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in the naughties, was a legendary name because it was so
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was a legendary name because it was so
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was a legendary name because it was so powerful. It was named after Gustaf
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powerful. It was named after Gustaf
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powerful. It was named after Gustaf Magenworth, one of the founders of Mura,
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Magenworth, one of the founders of Mura,
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Magenworth, one of the founders of Mura, born in the late 1800s. Mura, quite an
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born in the late 1800s. Mura, quite an
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born in the late 1800s. Mura, quite an old, longestablished company. And this
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old, longestablished company. And this
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old, longestablished company. And this is the new one, the Gustaf Pro. So, if
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is the new one, the Gustaf Pro. So, if
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is the new one, the Gustaf Pro. So, if you're after uncompromising power,
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you're after uncompromising power,
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you're after uncompromising power, reliability, and durability, stick
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reliability, and durability, stick
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reliability, and durability, stick around. This could be the brake that
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around. This could be the brake that
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around. This could be the brake that could unlock all the confidence and
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could unlock all the confidence and
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could unlock all the confidence and commitment that you feel you need when
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commitment that you feel you need when
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commitment that you feel you need when you go mountain biking. The original
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you go mountain biking. The original
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you go mountain biking. The original Gustaf had one thing in mind. Brute
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Gustaf had one thing in mind. Brute
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Gustaf had one thing in mind. Brute force.
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force.
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force. Semi unusable. It was ridiculous. It was
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Semi unusable. It was ridiculous. It was
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Semi unusable. It was ridiculous. It was like sticking a crowbar in your wheel.
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like sticking a crowbar in your wheel.
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like sticking a crowbar in your wheel. Seem to recall. Although that was in the
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Seem to recall. Although that was in the
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Seem to recall. Although that was in the era of V brakes. So any decent brake
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era of V brakes. So any decent brake
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era of V brakes. So any decent brake felt like it was over the top. The new
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felt like it was over the top. The new
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felt like it was over the top. The new Gustaf Pro has brute force. It's also
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Gustaf Pro has brute force. It's also
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Gustaf Pro has brute force. It's also got a lot of modulation and a lot of
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got a lot of modulation and a lot of
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got a lot of modulation and a lot of long-term durability. It doesn't need
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long-term durability. It doesn't need
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long-term durability. It doesn't need babysitting and forever bleeding and
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babysitting and forever bleeding and
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babysitting and forever bleeding and tinkering with. This is not just another
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tinkering with. This is not just another
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tinkering with. This is not just another expensive high-end brake for the sake of
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expensive high-end brake for the sake of
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expensive high-end brake for the sake of it. This should address all and every
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it. This should address all and every
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it. This should address all and every disc brake problem that you might be
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disc brake problem that you might be
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disc brake problem that you might be suffering with at the moment.
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suffering with at the moment.
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suffering with at the moment. Unsurprisingly, the Gustaf Pro is a
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Unsurprisingly, the Gustaf Pro is a
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Unsurprisingly, the Gustaf Pro is a fourpot four piston system as well as
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fourpot four piston system as well as
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fourpot four piston system as well as being very chunky in the caliper size.
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being very chunky in the caliper size.
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being very chunky in the caliper size. pistons inside there 19 mil in diameter
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pistons inside there 19 mil in diameter
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pistons inside there 19 mil in diameter and in the lever the master cylinder as
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and in the lever the master cylinder as
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and in the lever the master cylinder as we technobuffins like to call it has a
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we technobuffins like to call it has a
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we technobuffins like to call it has a 12 mil diameter piston in there compared
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12 mil diameter piston in there compared
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12 mil diameter piston in there compared to normal brakes like Mura's trail
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to normal brakes like Mura's trail
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to normal brakes like Mura's trail riding MT7
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riding MT7
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riding MT7 that's got a 17 mil piston in there and
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that's got a 17 mil piston in there and
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that's got a 17 mil piston in there and a 10 mil piston in there so quite a lot
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a 10 mil piston in there so quite a lot
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a 10 mil piston in there so quite a lot bigger in the Gustaf Pro but sheer Power
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bigger in the Gustaf Pro but sheer Power
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bigger in the Gustaf Pro but sheer Power and modulation is no good if it only
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and modulation is no good if it only
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and modulation is no good if it only lasts for the first minute of a really
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lasts for the first minute of a really
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lasts for the first minute of a really long descent. One of the big things
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long descent. One of the big things
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long descent. One of the big things about the Gustaf Pro along with a lot of
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about the Gustaf Pro along with a lot of
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about the Gustaf Pro along with a lot of other big things is they're designed to
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other big things is they're designed to
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other big things is they're designed to behave the same at the top of the hill
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behave the same at the top of the hill
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behave the same at the top of the hill as they are at the bottom of the hill or
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as they are at the bottom of the hill or
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as they are at the bottom of the hill or even a mountain. If you're going to go
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even a mountain. If you're going to go
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even a mountain. If you're going to go somewhere proper big or Europe or
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somewhere proper big or Europe or
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somewhere proper big or Europe or Scotland, one of the bigger places in
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Scotland, one of the bigger places in
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Scotland, one of the bigger places in Wales and do a long descent, you can be
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Wales and do a long descent, you can be
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Wales and do a long descent, you can be as steep, rough, drag your brakes as
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as steep, rough, drag your brakes as
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as steep, rough, drag your brakes as much as you want. There's a lot of heat
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much as you want. There's a lot of heat
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much as you want. There's a lot of heat management in these, as well as the
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management in these, as well as the
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management in these, as well as the caliper itself being essentially a
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caliper itself being essentially a
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caliper itself being essentially a massive heat sink that heat passes into.
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massive heat sink that heat passes into.
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massive heat sink that heat passes into. The pads are thinned, but without being
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The pads are thinned, but without being
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The pads are thinned, but without being excessively rattly, those are nice. And
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excessively rattly, those are nice. And
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excessively rattly, those are nice. And be careful how I pick this up so I don't
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be careful how I pick this up so I don't
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be careful how I pick this up so I don't put my fingers on the braking surface.
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put my fingers on the braking surface.
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put my fingers on the braking surface. the rotors 2.5 mil thick.
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the rotors 2.5 mil thick.
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the rotors 2.5 mil thick. A lot of material for the heat to pass
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A lot of material for the heat to pass
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A lot of material for the heat to pass into and be dissipated without passing
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into and be dissipated without passing
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into and be dissipated without passing into the system itself and into the
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into the system itself and into the
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into the system itself and into the fluid. Now, I have reports from a
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fluid. Now, I have reports from a
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fluid. Now, I have reports from a reliable source that even if you can get
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reliable source that even if you can get
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reliable source that even if you can get the brake rotor glowing by deliberately
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the brake rotor glowing by deliberately
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the brake rotor glowing by deliberately dragging your brake down monk,
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dragging your brake down monk,
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dragging your brake down monk, the brakes have still got the same bite
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the brakes have still got the same bite
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the brakes have still got the same bite point. It's not wandering bite point.
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point. It's not wandering bite point.
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point. It's not wandering bite point. It's dunk, dunk, dunk all the time,
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It's dunk, dunk, dunk all the time,
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It's dunk, dunk, dunk all the time, every time. With 2.5 mil rotors, they
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every time. With 2.5 mil rotors, they
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every time. With 2.5 mil rotors, they make less noise because they're less
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make less noise because they're less
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make less noise because they're less wobbly, less vibration in them, which
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wobbly, less vibration in them, which
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wobbly, less vibration in them, which not a lot of people know, but it's quite
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not a lot of people know, but it's quite
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not a lot of people know, but it's quite nice that you're not honking down the
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nice that you're not honking down the
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nice that you're not honking down the mountain like a goose. This rotor,
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mountain like a goose. This rotor,
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mountain like a goose. This rotor, technically the MDR-S,
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technically the MDR-S,
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technically the MDR-S, it's Mura's new rotor, 2.5 mil thick,
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it's Mura's new rotor, 2.5 mil thick,
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it's Mura's new rotor, 2.5 mil thick, and it's machined
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and it's machined
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and it's machined there. So, when you put it against the
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there. So, when you put it against the
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there. So, when you put it against the hub mount, sixbolt, it's in the same
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hub mount, sixbolt, it's in the same
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hub mount, sixbolt, it's in the same sort of central place as a normal 1.9
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sort of central place as a normal 1.9
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sort of central place as a normal 1.9 mil width
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mil width
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mil width um disc rotor because occasionally if
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um disc rotor because occasionally if
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um disc rotor because occasionally if you put really fat rotors on a bike, you
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you put really fat rotors on a bike, you
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you put really fat rotors on a bike, you can find you can't get the caliper away
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can find you can't get the caliper away
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can find you can't get the caliper away from the spokes far enough and it drags
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from the spokes far enough and it drags
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from the spokes far enough and it drags and it's like, oh, you have to take a
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and it's like, oh, you have to take a
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and it's like, oh, you have to take a file to something. Not like that. Mira
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file to something. Not like that. Mira
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file to something. Not like that. Mira thought of that and machined a little
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thought of that and machined a little
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thought of that and machined a little bit of a a recess in there. Well done,
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bit of a a recess in there. Well done,
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bit of a a recess in there. Well done, Mura. Put that down now before I uh
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Mura. Put that down now before I uh
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Mura. Put that down now before I uh contaminate it. Have to be careful how
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contaminate it. Have to be careful how
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contaminate it. Have to be careful how to pick up a rotor because people freak
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to pick up a rotor because people freak
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to pick up a rotor because people freak out when you touch the braking surface.
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out when you touch the braking surface.
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out when you touch the braking surface. Don't do that. Contaminate it with with
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Don't do that. Contaminate it with with
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Don't do that. Contaminate it with with finger. What are you riding through?
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finger. What are you riding through?
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finger. What are you riding through? Ride through bloody filth all the time.
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Ride through bloody filth all the time.
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Ride through bloody filth all the time. But I know what you mean. Right.
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But I know what you mean. Right.
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But I know what you mean. Right. Let's have a look at the lever. The
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Let's have a look at the lever. The
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Let's have a look at the lever. The master cylinder as we call it. This is
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master cylinder as we call it. This is
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master cylinder as we call it. This is the front one. It looks like it's kind
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the front one. It looks like it's kind
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the front one. It looks like it's kind of flip-floppable,
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of flip-floppable,
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of flip-floppable, but if you want to do the bleeding
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but if you want to do the bleeding
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but if you want to do the bleeding properly, you need that uh bolt on the
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properly, you need that uh bolt on the
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properly, you need that uh bolt on the top. Now, you won't have to bleed these
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top. Now, you won't have to bleed these
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top. Now, you won't have to bleed these quite as frequently as other brakes,
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quite as frequently as other brakes,
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quite as frequently as other brakes, particularly when you're putting them on
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particularly when you're putting them on
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particularly when you're putting them on your bike or taking them from one bike
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your bike or taking them from one bike
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your bike or taking them from one bike to another or buying a new bike,
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to another or buying a new bike,
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to another or buying a new bike, sticking it off that one because you
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sticking it off that one because you
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sticking it off that one because you want to keep hold of these brakes for a
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want to keep hold of these brakes for a
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want to keep hold of these brakes for a lot of years, I imagine. This has the
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lot of years, I imagine. This has the
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lot of years, I imagine. This has the Easy Link system, plugandplay, they call
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Easy Link system, plugandplay, they call
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Easy Link system, plugandplay, they call it.
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it.
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it. So you can detach the hose from the
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So you can detach the hose from the
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So you can detach the hose from the brake,
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brake,
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brake, feed it from the back wheel to the front
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feed it from the back wheel to the front
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feed it from the back wheel to the front handlebar and click it back in. Doesn't
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handlebar and click it back in. Doesn't
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handlebar and click it back in. Doesn't need bleeding. Just click clack click.
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need bleeding. Just click clack click.
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need bleeding. Just click clack click. Bit like Lego Duplo macano.
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Bit like Lego Duplo macano.
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Bit like Lego Duplo macano. The other thing to make your life less
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The other thing to make your life less
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The other thing to make your life less bleeding painful
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bleeding painful
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bleeding painful as well as not requiring bleeding very
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as well as not requiring bleeding very
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as well as not requiring bleeding very often, but all brakes will require
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often, but all brakes will require
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often, but all brakes will require bleeding after a year or two like that.
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bleeding after a year or two like that.
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bleeding after a year or two like that. Even like the best biggest brakes in the
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Even like the best biggest brakes in the
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Even like the best biggest brakes in the world on the car brakes, whatever, you
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world on the car brakes, whatever, you
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world on the car brakes, whatever, you need to bleed them every now and then.
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need to bleed them every now and then.
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need to bleed them every now and then. There's a new bleed valve for Mura and I
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There's a new bleed valve for Mura and I
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There's a new bleed valve for Mura and I get it get this word correct. There's a
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get it get this word correct. There's a
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get it get this word correct. There's a new circumerenial
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channel, which means there's no dead
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channel, which means there's no dead
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channel, which means there's no dead ends in this caliper when you're pushing
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ends in this caliper when you're pushing
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ends in this caliper when you're pushing things through, which is a I think quite
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things through, which is a I think quite
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things through, which is a I think quite a common cause of the old dreaded
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a common cause of the old dreaded
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a common cause of the old dreaded wandering bite point syndrome when
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wandering bite point syndrome when
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wandering bite point syndrome when you've got something that isn't flushed
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you've got something that isn't flushed
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you've got something that isn't flushed through and there's a little culdeac
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through and there's a little culdeac
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through and there's a little culdeac somewhere and it's hard to get the
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somewhere and it's hard to get the
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somewhere and it's hard to get the liquid in it. So, that should reduce how
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liquid in it. So, that should reduce how
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liquid in it. So, that should reduce how often you need to mess about and swear
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often you need to mess about and swear
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often you need to mess about and swear while you're bleeding at things. Like
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while you're bleeding at things. Like
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while you're bleeding at things. Like most of Meura's top end brakes, this is
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most of Meura's top end brakes, this is
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most of Meura's top end brakes, this is not an alloy metal construction. It's
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not an alloy metal construction. It's
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not an alloy metal construction. It's carboexure,
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carboexure,
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carboexure, which is like a composite material.
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which is like a composite material.
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which is like a composite material. Toolfree reach adjust that little dial
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Toolfree reach adjust that little dial
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Toolfree reach adjust that little dial there. Click, click, click, click,
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there. Click, click, click, click,
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there. Click, click, click, click, click. So you can make it big hands,
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click. So you can make it big hands,
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click. So you can make it big hands, small hands. I like a Mura lever.
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small hands. I like a Mura lever.
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small hands. I like a Mura lever. Excellent work.
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Excellent work.
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Excellent work. This thing here is the bracket.
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This thing here is the bracket.
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This thing here is the bracket. And you've got your shift mix things. So
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And you've got your shift mix things. So
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And you've got your shift mix things. So you can just have one clamp and that's
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you can just have one clamp and that's
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you can just have one clamp and that's where you can put your shifter and your
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where you can put your shifter and your
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where you can put your shifter and your uh dropper remote on the left and just
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uh dropper remote on the left and just
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uh dropper remote on the left and just have one neat little band on there. Oh
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have one neat little band on there. Oh
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have one neat little band on there. Oh yeah, the other thing is the exit point
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yeah, the other thing is the exit point
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yeah, the other thing is the exit point for the hose is no longer pointing
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for the hose is no longer pointing
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for the hose is no longer pointing forwards a bit. A big arc of hose
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forwards a bit. A big arc of hose
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forwards a bit. A big arc of hose running around. It's parallel with the
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running around. It's parallel with the
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running around. It's parallel with the handlebars now for that contemporary
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handlebars now for that contemporary
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handlebars now for that contemporary aesthetic that we're all going for now.
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aesthetic that we're all going for now.
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aesthetic that we're all going for now. Right, as we've said, they're very
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Right, as we've said, they're very
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Right, as we've said, they're very powerful. We've also mentioned a little
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powerful. We've also mentioned a little
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powerful. We've also mentioned a little bit of modulation because let's be
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bit of modulation because let's be
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bit of modulation because let's be honest, if you're an ebiker or a heavier
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honest, if you're an ebiker or a heavier
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honest, if you're an ebiker or a heavier rider or both of those things,
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rider or both of those things,
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rider or both of those things, you know, you need to be able to control
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you know, you need to be able to control
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you know, you need to be able to control your brakes. There's no point in
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your brakes. There's no point in
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your brakes. There's no point in grabbing a brake just going to lock the
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grabbing a brake just going to lock the
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grabbing a brake just going to lock the wheel up or send you over the bars or
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wheel up or send you over the bars or
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wheel up or send you over the bars or just generally not know what's going to
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just generally not know what's going to
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just generally not know what's going to happen with it. So, these brakes have a
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happen with it. So, these brakes have a
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happen with it. So, these brakes have a deliberately
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deliberately
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deliberately not quite as light as a trail brake
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not quite as light as a trail brake
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not quite as light as a trail brake uh action to them. There's a little bit
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uh action to them. There's a little bit
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uh action to them. There's a little bit of resistance when you go to pull it. So
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of resistance when you go to pull it. So
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of resistance when you go to pull it. So when things are hectic,
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when things are hectic,
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when things are hectic, >> rowdy, your hands have had enough.
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>> rowdy, your hands have had enough.
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>> rowdy, your hands have had enough. >> I'm on. I'm still on.
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>> I'm on. I'm still on.
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>> I'm on. I'm still on. >> You can still feel a bit more what the
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>> You can still feel a bit more what the
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>> You can still feel a bit more what the brake is doing. It's not just flying
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brake is doing. It's not just flying
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brake is doing. It's not just flying around polite action. That is a
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around polite action. That is a
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around polite action. That is a deliberate move by a Mura. Pulling out
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deliberate move by a Mura. Pulling out
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deliberate move by a Mura. Pulling out the Tutonic cliche. Mura is full of
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the Tutonic cliche. Mura is full of
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the Tutonic cliche. Mura is full of classic German engineering. sealed
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classic German engineering. sealed
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classic German engineering. sealed bearings, robust construction where it's
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bearings, robust construction where it's
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bearings, robust construction where it's needed, and things are easy to get hold
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needed, and things are easy to get hold
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needed, and things are easy to get hold of and easy to service. The idea being
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of and easy to service. The idea being
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of and easy to service. The idea being keep riding, not repairing.
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keep riding, not repairing.
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keep riding, not repairing. So, who is the Gustaf Pro for? Well,
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So, who is the Gustaf Pro for? Well,
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So, who is the Gustaf Pro for? Well, it's not for XC racers. It's not for
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it's not for XC racers. It's not for
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it's not for XC racers. It's not for mellow trail riders. So people who are
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mellow trail riders. So people who are
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mellow trail riders. So people who are pushing things a little bit more to the
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pushing things a little bit more to the
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pushing things a little bit more to the extreme, whether that's with an ebike
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extreme, whether that's with an ebike
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extreme, whether that's with an ebike weight or system weight or terrain. If
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weight or system weight or terrain. If
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weight or system weight or terrain. If your brakes currently aren't really
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your brakes currently aren't really
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your brakes currently aren't really cutting it, you might want to think
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cutting it, you might want to think
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cutting it, you might want to think about a Gustaf Pro. Now, it's not a
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about a Gustaf Pro. Now, it's not a
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about a Gustaf Pro. Now, it's not a cheap brake by any means. This is 240
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cheap brake by any means. This is 240
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cheap brake by any means. This is 240 quid per end or 600 quid for this box
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quid per end or 600 quid for this box
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quid per end or 600 quid for this box you can get which includes the rotors,
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you can get which includes the rotors,
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you can get which includes the rotors, the uh brackets, the stepup uh things
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the uh brackets, the stepup uh things
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the uh brackets, the stepup uh things for your fork and your frame, the bolts,
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for your fork and your frame, the bolts,
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for your fork and your frame, the bolts, the rope, everything 600 quid. So, it's
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the rope, everything 600 quid. So, it's
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the rope, everything 600 quid. So, it's not a cheap option, but if you're
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not a cheap option, but if you're
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not a cheap option, but if you're currently struggling and you want the
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currently struggling and you want the
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currently struggling and you want the performance and reliability and
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performance and reliability and
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performance and reliability and consistency, they're going to be worth
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consistency, they're going to be worth
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consistency, they're going to be worth the money.
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the money.
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the money. Right, I'm going to go and stick these
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Right, I'm going to go and stick these
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Right, I'm going to go and stick these on a bike and give them a thorough
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on a bike and give them a thorough
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on a bike and give them a thorough thrashing, probably an ebike through
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thrashing, probably an ebike through
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thrashing, probably an ebike through winter, which Madura might not like to
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winter, which Madura might not like to
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winter, which Madura might not like to hear. We're going to give them a proper
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hear. We're going to give them a proper
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hear. We're going to give them a proper testing.
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Actually, they told us to try and do our
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Actually, they told us to try and do our
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Actually, they told us to try and do our worst with them. So, that's exactly what
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worst with them. So, that's exactly what
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worst with them. So, that's exactly what we'll do. We'll do a full review on
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we'll do. We'll do a full review on
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we'll do. We'll do a full review on these month or two's time. In the
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these month or two's time. In the
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these month or two's time. In the meantime, you can go online and read a
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meantime, you can go online and read a
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meantime, you can go online and read a bit more about these.
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bit more about these.
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bit more about these. There you go. The Mura Gustaf Pro. Thank
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There you go. The Mura Gustaf Pro. Thank
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There you go. The Mura Gustaf Pro. Thank you for watching this deep dive and I'll
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you for watching this deep dive and I'll
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you for watching this deep dive and I'll see you again next time. Bye for now.
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see you again next time. Bye for now.
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see you again next time. Bye for now. Good stuff.
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Good stuff.
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Good stuff. Can I do that as an ending? Yeah, why
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Can I do that as an ending? Yeah, why
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Can I do that as an ending? Yeah, why not?
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