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Learn more about the Fox 38 here: https://singletrackworld.com/2020/04/first-look-fox-38-everything-you-need-to-know-and-first-look-video/
Live first look with the new 2021 Fox 38 and Fox 36 suspension forks featuring new chassis, and new features to make these amazing enduro forks even better performing.
If you have any questions that were not answered in the video please let me know in the comments and I'll answer them as soon as I can.
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hey Andy from synchrotron magazine here
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and you may have already seen me live on
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Instagram and Facebook today but now I'm
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live on YouTube to bring you the new Fox
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36 Papa and the Fox 38 tooten so we got
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to go through a few the details of these
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two forks and if you've got any
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questions while we do in that I want you
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to ask me and I'll do my best to answer
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them so let me turn the camera round and
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take a look at these books so first one
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is the Fox 36 so this is a fork that
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arrived with us yesterday and in because
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it arrived yesterday I wasn't able to do
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any write-up on it but it's all new for
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2021 it has an all-new chassis
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it has new bleep ports report it has new
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air channels I'll go through those
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details in a second but they got as the
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Fox 36 20 21 and a fork that you may
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have seen already on single track world
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is this it's the Fox 38 and there's a
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full write-up at the Fox 38 over on
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single track world now but I will go
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over a few details of that fork and this
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fork tip now okay so first things first
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this is the 2021 heritage Edition fork
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and basically this and the 38 that we
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have a limited edition Forks and
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basically they've come in these special
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colors they have special color
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adjustment knobs on them too and they
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also come with a special cobalt X axle
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as standard this axle is usually an
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aftermarket option for other Forks and
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OAM aftermarket Forks will come with a
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quick-release a standard so the Fox 36
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Heritage Edition comes in rootbeer Brown
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and as you can see it's a dark brown
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it's got a bit of a metallic finish to
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it they go it's got orange decals new
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decals for three on one leg and the six
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on the other the 38 comes in pistachio
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green now obviously there's no reason
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why our Fox went for
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on the 36 because the original thirty
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Six's came in brown the reason they've
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gone for the pistachio on the 38 is
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because it's a new fork and apparently
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pistachio is pretty popular in the
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motocross world or Supercross world one
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of the two so that's why they weren't
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for that all right anyway so the Fox 36
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here has an all-new chassis and one
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feature of that chassis is this new arch
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design as you can see there's loads of
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room between the stanchion and the arch
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and it's also wept and has mounts on
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there for a new Fox mudguard now the
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reason why the arch sits so proud of the
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stanchions is because on some frames the
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on full compression as the arch moves up
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it can hit the head tube on some frames
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so the reason why they've gone for this
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is to prevent that from happening and it
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also means that frame designers can now
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design bikes with a more of an offset to
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the head tube so you can adjust your
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reach if you like and there's no
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clearance issues there because plenty of
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room obviously another feature is this
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axle that I've already mentioned so this
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axle has a stepped all designed to it
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because what Fox had found was although
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front hub should be a hundred and ten
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millimeters in spacing sometimes they
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can be as small as a hundred and eight
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and what that means is if you put a
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smaller hub in here because the
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tolerances are off and then you tighten
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the axle you can see that the legs
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squish together here like squish
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together and that quart means that this
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is no longer straight and it means that
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the seals and everything inside is
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binding and that affects small bumpkin
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flop compliance on a fork so to get
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around that we've got this new wedge
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design and what you do is you put your
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hub in you put allen key and obviously
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and you wind it on and you see this word
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sure comes out and the words will come
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out press up against the flange of the
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hub and then you nip this up and then
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you know that this is square and hole
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legs will be square so small bump
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compliance will be no problems no issues
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there some more features that are new on
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the 36 and the 38 these bleeder valves
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on the back we've got two bleeder valves
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on the rear and we've got these air
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on the back there now one thing that you
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may notice you'll see there's a bit of
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oil on this one that's because if you
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get a new 36 or 38 don't rest it on the
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table while you're doing alive and press
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on it because air and will push a little
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bit of oil out and that's what's
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happened there on the trailer that
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doesn't happen obviously anyway so these
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air chambers here these are for allowing
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obviously better lubrication because
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more oil can move up through here and
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reach the top and they also allow better
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air flow and they also allow more
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lubricate of more oil to be used as well
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so a better lubricated better air flow
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so a really neat little feature we've
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got that on the 36 it's also available
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on the 38 - you can see there I'm 38
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folks say that is a real problem to
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design and make that but the performance
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advantages are well worth it now just
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above the air chambers we had these
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bleed ports so if you're in a place that
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has got a lot of altitude from the
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bottom of the trail to the top you'll
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find that there be an atmospheric
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pressure between difference between
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what's their pressure here and what's on
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the outside and that can cause issues
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with performance now it's probably one
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of those things that only affects a few
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people but this is a really neat little
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feature to have and it's super simple to
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use a fox recommend or Fox say you could
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every right just press each one and then
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you know that your atmospheric pressure
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on the inside and the outside of the
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fork is accurate and there's nothing
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you're giving the performance evoke any
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problems so it's a really simple thing
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to do another cool feature of these
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little bleed valves is that you can help
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tune your fork with them so if you're a
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lightweight rider like really a small 60
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kilogram guy or something you can
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compress these Forks press the blade
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valves and that less a bit of air out
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and it creates a kind of vacuum in the
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bottom and that helps suck the fork down
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a little bit too so it helps small bomb
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compliance for those really really
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lightweight riders okay so other
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features of the 36 are 230 mil disc
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rotor there tabs as standard that's the
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same as the 38 and we've got variable
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valve control on rebound and compression
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now so we've got new rebound and
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compressions
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Kitt's and that's shared across the 36
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and the 38 you can see there's also a
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variable valve control there too alright
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so other features so that's 36 obviously
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the 36 is for up to 170 mil of travel
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but if you're going to go that big with
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your travel and you get you're on a big
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heavy bike and you're a big guy you're
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probably better on the 38 and the 38
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goes to 180 ml of travel you can get
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them both in 29 and 27.5 the 29 inch
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version will run 27.5 + tires and 1 or 2
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differences on the 38 compared to the 36
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is the 36 has a standard round steerer
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tube whereas the 38 you can't see it
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because I've got a tool in here isn't
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the 36 only up to 160 fill I'm gonna
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check that for you but I'm pretty sure I
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saw 170 but I will double check for you
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so inside here the actual end of the
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steerer tube is oval on this and that
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stiffens things up that's only available
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on the 38 not 36 another difference is
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on the air chamber on the 38 and it's an
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air cartridge that's separate whereas on
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the 36 you're using the inside of the
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stanchion for the air spring and air
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pressures on the 38 are much higher as
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well so for myself on the 36 I'm
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probably running around 75 psi whereas
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on the 38 you have to run around 20% psi
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more so I'm running around 95 96 I think
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alright any other questions anyone got
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any questions about these Forks before I
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go so yeah you've got this live video
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here we've also have also been live on
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Instagram and on Facebook so if you
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watch those videos back there should be
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some any questions that I've missed or
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anything you want to ask just have a
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look through those videos if I don't
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answer your questions there he'll let me
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know in the comments below and I'll do
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my best to answer them later on
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there you go - 20 21 Forks this week
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what else will launch this week keep
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your eyes on the news
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38 sounds like a great option for a bird
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the emt-b yeah look I've got a 38 on any
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MTB and it works really really well did
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you feel the difference in stiffness
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Simon look we've got to be careful where
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we ride now so I've not been doing
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anything silly
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I've just been riding really tame trails
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so I've not been able to ride them hard
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enough to feel a difference in stiffness
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there's also a question in there about
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the small bump compliance because you've
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got to run higher pressures no there's
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no difference in fact because because
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the 38 runs an air chair cartridge
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instead of an irregular air spring the
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actual air spring inside the stanchion
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is actually physically smaller than the
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36 is similar to a 34 so that means
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smaller seals can be used and actually
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improves small bob compliance so yeah
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it's actually pretty good
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Simon you only get honest answers from
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single track okay so any questions
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before we go all right cool so if I've
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missed anything if you've got anything
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to add please ask me below in the
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comments and I'll do my best to answer
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those questions and like I say it's only
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the beginning of the week what else
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could launch later this week keep your
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eyes out on singletrack world see you
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later
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a bike oh now I need to figure out stop
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it
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you
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