You couldn't make this up….tenants not paid rent AGAIN !!

agent is robert oulsnam and co located in midlands!!

Section 21 has already been served and they are due to leave in feb however my agent told me today that if they dont want to move out then they don’t have to ?????????????? whats the point of having a contract if this is the case??

apparently as long as they stay less than 2 months in arrears with their rent then I cannot issue them a section 8???

At least you got the right advice and served them the right paperwork, right on time. The growing number of accidental landlords need to know these things up front. No matter how good your tenant, get them served as soon as they go into arrears otherwise you’ll never be able to get rid of them.

I helped my brother get rid of a tenant (non payer, abused the property) and they were threatening criminal proceedings (it has to be the housing officer who decides to launch criminal proceedings though) even though he’d already abandoned the place. I’d never let a property by choice.

Who has said anything about wanting them on the street over xmas ffs??

renton – Member

Im getting the impression the agent really isnt arsed about it!!

looks like Im not going to get it this side of xmas.
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Don Simon what is your problem ???

you really are a first class cock !

you really are a first class cock !

Is it possible to disagree with the idea that you want to kick someone on the street at Christmas without being called a cock? You might be surprised to know that I disagree with who the cock is too.
I sincerely hope you don’t lose too much money and don’t lose much sleep over this.

i wouldn’t waste your breath contacting any trade body, i had an issue as a tenant with Countrywide Residential Lettings, basically they wouldn’t fix the external drains, i went to ARLA, and there attitude was we don’t give a **** what our members do we exist to make people feel better not to actually do anything.

Is it possible to disagree with the idea that you want to kick someone on the street at Christmas without being called a cock? You might be surprised to know that I disagree with who the cock is too.
I sincerely hope you don’t lose too much money and don’t lose much sleep over this.

ive just been over the whole thread again and I seriously cannot find where I have said that I want them out on the street over xmas??

What I have said is that I am unlikely to see my rent before xmas.

feel free to show me where I have and I will eat humble pie

mrmo I know what you are saying its just incredibly frustrating that someone who has entered into a contract and agreed to pay x amount a month in that contract and signed it can somehow get away without paying it.

and then i get grief from cocks like don simon when i come on here asking for advice on what to do next.

if i wasnt able to pay my mortgage on time the bank would of already started looking at repossessing the house from me.

or if i took a car out on hp and couldnt keep the payments up they would take the car back.

ive just been over the whole thread again and I seriously cannot find where I have said that I want them out on the street over xmas??

A Section 21 Christmas card or physically being on the street is all the same to me, maybe I’m just a bit traditional with regard to Christmas time and goodwill to all men. Equally it’s not my problem if you can’t manage your business either.
As I’ve said time and time again, good luck with reclaiming your money.

I’ve rented through your agent, Robert Oulsnam, before, and I can confirm that they are a bunch of useless, work shy, lying t*sspots. I’d avoid them at all costs if I were you, my landlord at the time was a nice guy but they made the whole experience frustrating and painful.

what about the goodwill to the landlord whos house you are staying in rent free????

is that not the same ?

what would you do in my situation then ??

why bother with all this section cobblers.. how much longer has the agreement got to run.. let em know they be out on that day.. and serve notice on the guarantor.. nobody likes a small claim notification in the post..
besides that i’d be on you agents phone EVERY DAY asking for an update and what they have done each day to resolve this as this is what you pay them for..

bamboo care to elaborate??

via email if you want !!

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steve

what would you do in my situation then ??

I’d be asking myself whether a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush, I’d be asking myself whether it would be take a bit of a hit in a rent reduction to keep the tennants in, who I presume have been previously good payers and have recently had a change on circumstances. I’d be asking myself whether now is a good time to be lookingh for new tennats and whether I’d get the same level of rent or not. I’d be talking to them rather than demanding money, they probably are not answering the phone because they don’t have the answers to your questions, but that’s because you’re asking the wrong questions.
But what would I know, I’m a cock!
Where do I send my bill?

They have only been renting the house since august after leaving council housing as they were getting into bother with people but thats another story

3 months paid on time then the trouble started last month.

not a problem with the price of the rent, got another couple lined up ready to go in when the contract runs out, if they leave !!

apologies about the cock business Im just totally frustrated by it all.

the girl says the council wont rehouse her, we have heard rumours from common friends that she owes the council upaid rent to.

Weren’t there two that has now become one?
Is she working?
If she is, send her a recorded delivery letter stating that you’ll be contacting her employer?
If unemployed you’d need to see if you can get the benefit paid directly, I’m not sure if that is an option.
If it’s clear that you’ve done everything you can to help her pay and find a solution with her, and she still doesn’t pay. Then you can look at it as being her doing and kick her out after folling legal procedure. IMHO kicking out is the final option and not, as it seems here, one of the first.
If she has demonstrated a history of non-payment you might want to consider your vetting procedure too, which seems a bit weak.
Apologies if I came across as a bit hard but I don’t play kiss-ass.
Business is not easy and comes with good times and bad times, the bad times are a period of learning.

she doesn’t work at all he was the bread winner so to speak and it seems he has left her.

they effectively didn’t pay last month as it was paid by the guarantors wife.

if she contacted us to explain then I would be a bit more understanding but as she and the guarantors or ignoring everyone ……

So it’s more a question that she’s been dropped in the shit rather than being a habitual non-payer, which is a bit different and no, you’re not a charity.
Looks like it comes down to communication, so talking and not threatening with eviction would be a good starting point.
She doesn’t have the money, the council does, if she’s on benefit she has access to housing benefit, so you need to work out how to get to that. I would also guess that the dude has signed and ultimately broken the contract. It is him you need to be chasing, and not her, with regard to the lost money. I imagine she’s a bit pissed off all round and finding things difficult. She probably wants to find a solution too, but with no job and no money, she has no answers.
I get the feeling that ultimately it’s going to be an expensive lesson in the end, which is a bummer.

I feel sorry for you O.P. and the poor girl left in the $hit.

😥 on Xmas as well.

Renton – the lesson here is
1) the agent you chose is useless. sack them immediatly. they got you duff tenants and then did not deal with issues
2) don’t count or more than 9 months rent a year.
3) relax when there is nothing you can do.

If the tenants aren’t paying you rent, it’s generally coz they haven’t got it. I doubt they are keeping hold of spare money just to annoy you!
Communication is the key.

just had a text off of her and she has said that her partner has led her to believe it has been paid ,seems it goes out of his bank and he is refusing to contact her to sort it out.

also said there are a few unpaid bills at the property too, will that black list the property or them??

also said there are a few unpaid bills at the property too, will that black list the property or them??

Progress if she’s now talking, no?
Can’t help on the bills, have a dicreet word with the utility company.

At least things are starting to move forward.

not exactly talking more passed the buck onto her other half !!

I don’t really see how she’s passing the buck, without knowing full details.
If his name is on the contract, that’s where you need to be looking.
If her name, as an unemployed person, is on the contract, you need to check your vetting and there might have to be a bit of accepting responsibility here aswell regarding the bills, if that does turn out to give you problems.
Guarrantor should be under some pressure too.

don simon, the finest game of devils advocate i’ve seen in recent times.

Renton, with you 100%, frustrated just reading this and personally I’d have the boys round; 1 month arrears with profuse apologies is acceptable, 2 months is taking the michael.

Folk don’t become landlords to become counsellors but to get paid; ain’t nothing going on but the rent

Rents, I hope you get it sorted soon mate. At the end of the day you are losing cash as I am guessing their rent goes towards your mortgage (can’t be bothered reading it all). If I was in your situ (which I may be at some stage being in the same business as you 😀 ) goodwill wouldn’t come into it TBH. As far as I’m concerned you aren’t running a charity. Get some Bombers and go and own their ass out of “your” house.

Rents, I hope you get it sorted soon mate. At the end of the day you are losing cash as I am guessing their rent goes towards your mortgage (can’t be bothered reading it all). If I was in your situ (which I may be at some stage being in the same business as you ) goodwill wouldn’t come into it TBH. As far as I’m concerned you aren’t running a charity. Get some Bombers and go and own their ass out of “your” house.

you are entirely correct I have had to pay a mortgage this month as well as rent on the house I live in too.

Ive got a family of my own to feed and look after too.

don simon, the finest game of devils advocate i’ve seen in recent times.

I think I should thank you.

Folk don’t become landlords to become counsellors but to get paid; ain’t nothing going on but the rent

Without pushing my luck, treat it like a business and be sure that you have sufficient cash flow to make the business work, there are reserves to cover the bad times and accept the shit when it happens, because it does happen and finally think very carefully about your customer relation skills if you don’t have what it takes to be a counsellor. There’s more to business than simply receiving money.

I appreciate it wasn’t a career choice for Renton and he was forced into this and it’s all a bit unfortunate but money is not easy to come by and it has to be worked for. For those that think renting is a way to make a fast couple of quid, good luck.
Hope it gets sorted in a satisfactoy way for everyone.
Merry Christmas.

Personally, I’d thank her for the text, explain your situation and try to see if there is a way forward via housing benefit. Don’t know how that would prejudice the notice though, you’d need specialist advice. I know thats going to be painful, but keeping a dialogue going has to be better than her sticking her head in the sand and trying to ignore the issue.