Yep. There it is. Religion. Still busy poisoning everything…

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  • Yep. There it is. Religion. Still busy poisoning everything…
  • Premier Icon slowoldman
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    Actually some great music has been written due to the influence of religion. Perhaps you have heard of JS Bach? There have been many others plus there has been a great deal of extraordinary art and architecture, going back many thousands of years, well before Abrahamic religions.

    It’s not an example of religion poisoning everything, it’s just an example of sloppy thinking.

    And in mis-reporting the problem, the title and general thrust of the original post therefore propagates sloppy thinking, too.

    It is sloppy thinking, and the ease with which it spreads, which is the real poison.

    Premier Icon Cougar
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    well, not Exactly self apointed experts BUT i think you might just know a few of em, Lol

    Oh good grief.

    They’re talking about technology we have, or had at the time. Like, physically built and in operation. We had the Space Shuttle up until a couple of years ago, we didn’t have any working Saturn V rockets lying around. It’s like me saying I’m going to buy a car so that I can drive to work and you concluding that I’ve never driven before and cars don’t exist.

    I put it to you again. Conspiracy theories and videos of out-of-context quotes aside, if the moon landings were indeed faked do you think other countries would have sat back and said nothing? In the “space race” during height of the Cold War, do you not think that the USSR would’ve been all over NASA like a tramp on chips if they’d tried to pull the wool over their eyes? That’s the only question you need to ask to decide whether it’s true or not.

    There was a lot of independent observers at the time, and of course Russia, China and other countries have their own space programmes today. Even if – somehow – the USA managed to either fool the entire world or get them all to buy in to a global conspiracy back then, they’d surely have been busted by now. See here:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-party_evidence_for_Apollo_Moon_landings#Independent_evidence

    You reckon Putin wouldn’t trade his entire gay porn collection for actual evidence that the USA had lied back in 1969? That’s an even crazier notion than suggesting that the moon landings were a hoax.

    Premier Icon funkmasterp
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    Actually some great music has been written due to the influence of religion. Perhaps you have heard of JS Bach? There have been many others plus there has been a great deal of extraordinary art and architecture, going back many thousands of years, well before Abrahamic religions.

    Architecture and art definitely with you on those two fronts. I stand by my original post regarding music though.

    Premier Icon slowoldman
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    Ah well perhaps we have similar taste in art and architecture but not music.

    gobuchul
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    well, not Exactly self apointed experts BUT i think you might just know a few of em, Lol

    That video is possibly one of the worst, least convincing of the conspiracy theory genre I have seen. The flat earthers are more believable.

    Lawmanmx
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    More crap for you lot to Not really think about 😀

    Premier Icon nickc
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    Deleted, I’ve nothing to add to the sordid “debate” about the moon landings other than people who think they’re faked are idiots

    Lawmanmx
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    bit harsh, considering YOU don’t REALLY Know for sure! 😉

    Premier Icon nickc
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    Not really. There’s a wealth of evidence to show men have been to the moon. If the best you can come up with is these (also idiotic) you tube videos that just demonstrate that the people that make them also don’t understand science and engineering, then I refer you to my previous remark

    If you’ve got peer reviewed acamdemic work from a recognised and accredited university supervised by a suitable prof, by all means bring it on.

    Premier Icon slowoldman
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    I don’t know for sure that the train I took to work this morning started out in Alderley Edge as the timetable said as I got on at a later station.

    Premier Icon Cougar
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    More crap for you lot to Not really think about 😀

    First up, the notion that there was no shielding on the Apollo mission is a lie.

    Second, the Van Allen belts were a real threat that was pretty well understood by NASA. They flew at a time when radiation was relatively low, they chose a trajectory which minimised risk and they went really fast.

    https://www.popsci.com/blog-network/vintage-space/apollo-rocketed-through-van-allen-belts

    I appreciate there’s a lot of words there, but there’s a YouTube video at the bottom. I can’t guarantee that the speech doesn’t slow down at though you’re talking to an imbecile though.

    Premier Icon Cougar
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    Oh, here.

    Radiation sickness occurs when you have been exposed to around 200 to 1000 ‘rads’ of radiation within a few hours. The Apollo 11 crew were within the belts for less than two hours during their journey to the Moon, and so would have only been exposed to an estimated 18 rads – well within the safe limit. There can still be some adverse effects from even this level of radiation, so NASA made sure that the Apollo 11 spacecraft was well-insulated such that the average dose of radiation over the 12-day mission was just 0.18 rads, or similar to the radiation dosage from a chest X-ray.

    Premier Icon nickc
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    I resolve in future to be more like cougar, who clearly has waaay more patience than me.

    pondo
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    More crap for you lot to Not really think about 😀

    You’re right, it IS crap. 🙂

    Lawmanmx
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    patience, for what?

    bigrich
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    I haven’t been to the moon.

    Lawmanmx is trolling you. The winking smiley is a give away.

    Premier Icon jamj1974
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    Moon landing conspiracies really get my goat. How on Earth people think it could be covered up for so long by so many is beyond me. Cretins the lot of them!

    Besides, it’s always been my dream to stand on the surface of another body and even now I am so awestruck that humanity has been there.

    Premier Icon welshfarmer
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    Well someone must have been there as I once had to collect a briefcase full of moon rocks for a geology exhibition. They were in one of those proper aluminium jobs with a chain cuffed to my wrist to prevent it being snatched. If they weren’t moon rocks in there then I fail to understand all the security which went along with it (unless the uni was running drugs and were using us to transport them around London 🙂 ).

    Premier Icon Rusty Spanner
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    Besides, it’s always been my dream to stand on the surface of another body

    £500 an hour.
    £750 if you want to keep your SPD’s on.
    Definitely no goats.

    even now I am so awestruck that humanity has been there

    Funny, Mrs S says that too……….

    Premier Icon jamj1974
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    Besides, it’s always been my dream to stand on the surface of another body

    £500 an hour.
    £750 if you want to keep your SPD’s on.
    Definitely no goats.

    even now I am so awestruck that humanity has been there

    Funny, Mrs S says that too……….

    😂😂😂

    Agrajag? Is that you?

    Curiously enough, the only thing that went through the mind of the bowl of petunias as it fell was “Oh no…. not again.”

    Is there a record for the number of times the same dude can get banned in a single thread?

    Premier Icon slowoldman
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    This thread has me thinking. Is there an equivalent of Godwin’s Law, where all threads tend towards conspiracy theory, and more particularly the moon landing?

    Woppit’s Law

    should not give in to creationist parents

    And, just to clear it up for those who don’t know: Creationism ≠ Christianity.

    mikewsmith
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    and Religion ≠ Christianity, just as God ≠ Your Christian God we have heaps to choose from.

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    Demeter God of Agriculture

    Yep, the ancient Greeks certainly had a few to choose from. Good on ’em.

    mikewsmith
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    I’ll go with all the people referring to God while ignoring the few hundred other mythical creations out there.

    Haha like every time we talk about the concept of god, we should definitely list every single representation from all cultures, philosophies and religions, yes.

    Fully with you.

    tjagain
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    I have the body of a god………………… unfortunatly its Bhudda

    My body is a temple – to Bacchus

    mikewsmith
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    Haha like every time we talk about the concept of god, we should definitely list every single representation from all cultures, philosophies and religions, yes.

    Well it’s hard for all the rest of us to keep up on the ones you lot believe in, I mean some were worth killing over, then not, then they did create everything, then elephants, then none of it then something else, then he had kids, then didn’t

    Anyway here is Pan

    God of Goats?

    you lot

    My lot? What? People from Dorset?

    OK.

    eddiebaby
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    If you’ve got peer reviewed acamdemic work from a recognised and accredited university supervised by a suitable prof, by all means bring it on.

    I saw the documentary:

    mikewsmith
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    My lot? What? People from Dorset?

    Nah the lot Baron Samedi was telling me about, we were having some rums and showed me

    eddiebaby
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    I saw him in Spectre. Really was the worst Bond film.

    Premier Icon funkmasterp
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    Anyway here is Pan

    He was never the same after leaving Neverland. It started with ferret tickling but nobody would have guessed it would end with goat ****

    Premier Icon sirromj
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    Bes is an Egyptian god of play and recreation.[250] He was envisioned as a “full-faced, bow-legged dwarf with an oversized head, goggle eyes, protruding tongue, bushy tail and usually a large feathered crown as a head-dress.”

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