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  • Ye gods, my back hurts (numpty crash video content)
  • GEDA
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    Always nice to have a nice fast run in to a drop off. I did that once though not as bad. It did make my brain switch off the self preservation ‘go slow’ button.

    It has to be said as harsh as it sounds it’s not split second decisions that made it wrong , it’s pretty clear that there was no where near enough speed going into it, it really does look like one if those videos of someone you see who hasn’t ridden a bike for fifteen years, suddenly gets in to it, gets egged on cos his mates are videoing etc and BAM! Rider down

    Not saying I’d have ridden it tbh, but it wasn’t a split second decision that caused it, it was a truly awful run in, the nosedive was the icing on the cake

    Ps hope you heel soon

    persona
    Member

    You’re confusing “unweighting the front” with “raising the front wheel.” . The two things are connected but not the same thing at all.

    smatkins1
    Member

    a bit more speed next time! speed is your friend πŸ™‚

    Premier Icon plumslikerocks
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    Nasty crash and no doubt lots of lessons learned. Thanks for posting the video for our amusement and mutual learning!

    There’s some right farkin tossers on here tonight though….post some videos of your own amazing riding and lets all have a good slag of you.

    Can’t believe some people…

    Legoman
    Member

    split second wrong decision my arse!

    Sorry to be the one to tell you, but you’re not competent at drops at all

    Nice Persona, I’m sure your friendly advice has been a huge comfort!

    GEDA
    Member

    I built a drop off in the garden with a run out ramp you can lower. I built it a bit thin though and it is only a foot wide. Anyway I have got much more confidence and a better feel about how fast and what it feels like to drop. I know I could take the ramp away completely but it gives a nice bouncy landing. I have done one nose drop like you but luckily I did not go over the bars and managed to ride it out.

    [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57LVGLUJnYA[/video]

    Junkyard
    Member

    No offence mate but that lawn is a **** disgrace its like a field πŸ˜‰

    Nice idea if you have the space

    mdavids
    Member

    Thanks for sharing that o.p. it’s a great example of how not to ride a drop of that size. Don’t beat yourself up too much, looks like a slightly sketchy run-in robbed you of the necessary speed and you didn’t have the technique to make up for the lack of speed. Your body language gave me the impression you were very hesitant as well which is never a good sign, you have to commit to a feature like that or get off and push round it.

    Perhaps you could find yourself a smaller drop-off to practice on, one that’s small enough to roll off without going OTB if you get it wrong, then practice going off it as slow as possible whilst still landing both wheels together. Then practice it till the technique is second nature.

    Glad you’re okay.

    nick1962
    Member

    Is this you practising at GT?[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxD2bmboHqw[/video] πŸ™‚

    b45her
    Member

    an almost identical crash, commitment and speed are everything when it comes to jumps/drops there is very little technique involved.

    Junkyard
    Member

    I hope that guy is ok but what would possess you to a drop at that speed ?

    I assume if you doubt your technique you dont commit so i think they go hand in hand tbh. I suspect they were told to just go for it.

    Where is that BTW?

    GEDA
    Member

    I would say jumps need technique. For a start being able to move the bike without pedaling, for example pumping. Building your own stuff is where it’s at as then you can get bigger and build your confidence up.

    nick1962
    Member

    More speed not always necessary.There’s a video of a young girl aged about 13 who does the big GT ladder drop from an almost stationary start but I couldn’t find it.These give you an idea.Get well soon. [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_DHegFcqwo[/video]
    [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzPjPYd4V4E[/video]

    Premier Icon Northwind
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    The main mistake was not aborting when your approach turned out to be so slow. I mean, I could ride that out at that speed without too much bother, I reckon, but that’s just because one of my specialist subjects is comfort braking on the approach to drops then having to ride them too bloody slowly πŸ™‚ It’s not that good a superpower really.

    I am impressed by the people who can dismantle someone’s entire riding style based on a single vid, that’s insightful. Anyone can screw up, why assume that one section of iffy riding is the OP’s norm?

    Only one thing for it OP- get back up there and do it again tomorrow. No complaining about the sore back, worst case scenario is you crash again and knock everything back into place.

    I’ve dropped off 4′ high northshore (that lip’s about 3’6″) at that speed without a problem – but to do so requires attitude and energy and both appeared to vacate me at the critical moment. Plus this needed the bike to reach the downslope a few feet away for a good landing. Thinking about it I got more air heightwise on the road-sort-of-gap near the bottom when I’d done some full runs earlier avoiding this drop. I’d been up since 4:30am with my five month old and travelled from Brighton that morning which probably didn’t help… Just had an email from a riding mate who’d heard about the hospital visit and was worried and after I reassured him I was ok he saw the video and said this:

    “I have looked at the video and it does not look like you. Normally you are so positive and confident it reassures me that you have sorted line and speed and movements before you get there but you just rolled. At that speed I would have expected you to brake and reset or run to the side and then stop.”

    Live (thankfully!) and learn… By the way, I can normally land drops front first, back first or together as required, it’s one of those things I practise. However, doing it again tomorrow is out – it’s a hundred odd miles away and I can’t stand normally yet let alone ride a bike with panache! πŸ˜‰

    Yikes, get well soon!

    Years ago, I used to ride a bit of trials – the backhop/pedal hop technique that I learnt back then has got me out of situations similar to yours before. Give it a go.

    Premier Icon Cheezpleez
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    Yup, we all have bad days and if you don’t push yourself you don’t improve.

    I would definitely have bottled that if I’d rolled up to it at that speed. I hope.

    Very glad you got away with it OP.

    jedi
    Member

    late push and bent knees. glad you ok but how long int the day was it??? you know better than to do that!!!!

    It was about 5pm and I think we’d started just before noon with a break for our first A&E related incident at lunchtime – it didn’t feel like we’d done loads of riding but in retrospect it had been pretty mentally intense because they were new trails to me and we weren’t riding them slowly. So yes, too late in the day, sorry Tony!

    And one thing that’s making me think a full-sus might be a good idea is that a hardtail is that bit more fatiguing and less forgiving when you’re doing DH runs, especially when there’s an uplift so you get back to the top sooner.

    Premier Icon jambalaya
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    At low speeds your timing has to be better, been there / done that and have scratched such drops since last plant. That’s a harder drop to ride as the run in is not straight so more difficult to get the speed right. Hope you get well soon.

    discoduck
    Member

    You would have gotten away with that on a full susser πŸ˜†

    I cant really say anything thats not been posted above, you were lucky, it happened that quick it looks like you kept hold of the bars ? which probably could have been a lot worse,

    That guy with the SYNDICATE top on, **** hilarious ! and as for all the hitting it with speed tips, you could have cranked off that trials stylie, and you can do the GT ladders that way as i have done without a stack,

    just get out again soon and pop those roots on the way in and the drop will follow on !

    have you got any more clips of you hurting yourself ❓

    good luck,

    _tom_
    Member

    I hate the run ins to those drops, this is exactly how I picture them happening for me with the speed I manage to get into them as well!

    Euro
    Member

    The technique for riding drops at that speed is pretty straightforward. As the clip shows so very, very well, pushing the front forward isn’t it. Pull up gently on the bars into manual and push the rear off the edge and set the back end down. Bent legs to absorb the landing. As DT suggests, more trails than mtb. Probably easier to learn on a bmx Chief.

    Premier Icon wwaswas
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    If you want a FS bike buy one, stop staging accidents to give yourself some justification πŸ˜‰

    Once you’re back up to fitness you’d be welcome to have a go on mine for a week or two if you want to see what it feels like on some of the local stuff- I’m sure Archie would welcome riding it over (especially up Carden Avenue! perhaps I’d drive it, actually).

    carloz
    Member

    As the other A&E related party the irony isn’t lost on me that my tube randomly blowing out earlier in the day, causing an epic OTB which dislocated and fractured my shoulder has left me off my bike for months. The Chief is a solid rider, but I think we both proved random events, be they environmental or mental can have pretty painful consiquences.. However, as self employed dads I suspect the Chief will agree the most painful part of the day was probably calling our wives!

    Premier Icon p7rich
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    I can vouch for CGG usual skill levels too. I’ve chased him round many trails, over all sorts and ordinarily he pins it. Whatever happened, thank god it didn’t turn out worse. Rest of the crew went on to ride Afan and Cwmcarn in the following days and i reckon most of us kept things wound in just a little more than we might have if it wasn’t for the day 1 misfortunes. Heal up quick fellas.

    longmover
    Member

    I agree that having some basic trials skills is useful for getting out of trouble when you are traveling too slowly towards a drop. Plus trials is good fun to learn, very rewarding when learn new skills, it will improve your balance a lot and you get very good at getting of the bike during slow speed crashes.

    yunki
    Member

    oooooooof! that made me feel a little bit sick.. πŸ™

    persona
    Member

    Solid riders?

    Gah ha ha..

    if by “Solid” you actually mean novices/beginners with huge excuse lists, then, yes some Solid riding there boys!

    Nice Persona, I’m sure your friendly advice has been a huge comfort!

    Sorry, I didn’t foresee “comforting” other riders as a requirement in signing up for an internet biking forum?.. There’s certainly no mention of it in the rules. (Which I have read in full after being asked nicely to by the mods)
    Why is it so hard for some people to accept a little honesty? if you post a video of yourself riding terribly and crashing, would you honestly rather I agree’d that you’d just had “a momentary lapse in concentration” and just made up some shit about the you having great skills/bottle or whatever, tell you not to worry and it’s probably a 1000000 to 1 chance of such a freak accident ever happening again, just to make you feel better?

    πŸ˜•

    Premier Icon wwaswas
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    I suspect what they were expecting was ‘blimey that looks nasty, we all make mistakes and hopefully you’ve learned from this one’?

    you don’t have to comfort anyone if you choose not to you shouldn;t however;

    No posts which in the opinion of the moderators are solely intended to, or are likely to provoke or abuse any individual or group.

    and you do seem to be in danger of straying into that area?

    jeffskowski
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    Persona clearly has an agenda. My guess is he’s written a book. Within those pages will be ‘The’ definitive guide to riding like a Pro. It will cut to the chase no doubt. I can’t wait to get my copy to be honest.

    persona
    Member

    No posts which in the opinion of the moderators are solely intended to, or are likely to provoke or abuse any individual or group.

    See.. I did actually ask the moderator about this grey area.
    I got no reply.

    Seems to me there are too many users on here who can’t cope with a little honesty and for some reason to feel the need to wade in to defend others with absolutely nothing to back up their arguement. and all of a sudden the only honest sensible reply to the thread is accused of “deliberately trying to provoke/abuse” Who made up this crazy ruling?

    is laughing when someone bigs up their quite clearly awful riding skills really considered abusive? Pointing out and correcting where someone’s gone wrong or just typed a complete load of utter tripe, provocative?

    lots of uptight folk on here, why? it’s sunny out, the trails are dusty and the roads are quiet

    Premier Icon wwaswas
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    and all of a sudden the only honest sensible reply to the thread is accused of “deliberately trying to provoke/abuse”

    why do you think you’re the only one telling the truth?


    lots of uptight folk on here, why? it’s sunny out, the trails are dusty and the roads are quiet

    yet here you are, trying to justify your ‘honesty’ in the face of honest disagreement and not out riding the trails or roads?

    persona
    Member

    Should have said “first” rather than “only” smack my wrists with a wooden ruler! 8)

    Don’t you worry, I’ll be out as soon as I’m finished work same as every day

    plyphon
    Member

    Damn,

    I done a big drop that was probably “out of my skill level” last weekend, landed it successfully and didn’t think of it again other than “that was awesome”.

    Now shitting myself as to what could of happened!

    Luckily my drop had a straight, root free line up that was down hill – just let go of the brakes and go….

    lots of uptight folk on here, why? it’s sunny out, the trails are dusty and the roads are quiet

    Its simply because we are all off work due to being injured from crashing whilst out on our bikes. This is due to the fact we are all inferior to you , obvs.
    hell I rode into a massive tree.

    persona
    Member

    I crash more than most, wouldn’t dream of looking for sympathy for my own mistakes though. πŸ˜‰

    If you’re not crashing, you’re not trying hard enough!

    Premier Icon cookeaa
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    Hope you feel better soon OP, the slow silly tumbles often turn out to be the worst IME, I’m sure I’ve walked away from “Bigger” stacks than that but sometimes momentum is your friend…

    TBH you look tired and fatigued and that’s when the errors in judgement creep in, you did say you’d been up early with your nipper, that I can relate to, I think some people perhaps don’t appreciate just how knackered most Dads with younger kids are half the time.

    The best thing to do is get back on and ride ASAP, overcome any self doubt before it becomes entrenched.

    Persona: While I can see you are being “honest” you are also being a bit of a dick about it too (I’m just offering an Honest Critique of your communication Skills)…
    I think you could have been a shade more gentle with your delivery of truth rather than wading in there with “Brutal Honesty”… I think the OP has been pretty open and receptive to Constructive criticism from most people in this thread…

    Yep. Tiredness/fatigue towards the end of a ride is usually when we have people come off in our group. Trying to “keep up” when tired is lethal as you don’t maintain proper technique like pumping and absorbing with your positions on the bike. Often lazily going into something without commitment causes problems like in the OP. Get well soon.

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