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  • XTR M9000 cassette creaks!
  • BIGMAN
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    It’s super noisy in the larger cogs and worst when sitting.

    All torqued properly and fitted as should be.

    Anyone else had this issue? Any ideas?

    njee20
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    Was a problem on Dura Ace, which they fixed, good to see they’ve gone backward on XTR.

    BIGMAN
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    I did spot that but could see little internet chatter about it on XTR.

    It’s a bit annoying as makes bike sound like a piano!

    ti456neal
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    I had this with mine from new, found that coating (hope) freehub and mating surfaces of cassette with carbon fibre grip assembly paste and torquing up correctly has cured it.
    Hope it does the trick for you too.

    jemima
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    Mine made a pretty graunchy noise in the big sprockets, under high load, from new. I’m usually fairly adroit at sorting these things but nothing helped so put it back to the shop and they also drew a blank. But I wouldn’t say it was a creak and attributed the noise to poor chainline in the larger sprockets.
    Its interesting to see the few aftermarket chainrings offer ‘corrected chainline’ by spacing the ring towards the bottom bracket a bit. I think I will experiment with one of these next.
    I’m summary then, I’ve had to choose to live with it. I could perhaps convince myself that its got a bit better with some bedding in…
    In other matters, I think the aluminium 40t sprocket is wearing too fast and have ripped a tooth off it with one miss-shift. Bit galling…

    BIGMAN
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    Now noisy all the time.

    Doing my head in.

    jemima
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    I would strip down, clean and grease all interfaces.

    Interesting that the Singletrack review reports something similar.

    Bike shop reckons its better on a Shimano hub. With e.g. ProII there are various different sizes of axle spaces for different standards so the chain line is sometimes not ideal. Whereas Shimano do it properly… I’m not convinced if this is the case or not and I’ve not examined my bike yet to see if it makes sense…

    deadkenny
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    Sure it’s the cassette (which sounds very odd to me) and not the mech? B tension set too close to cassette can create creaky grinding sounds, especially when shifting, and more towards the bigger cogs. Full sus can make it worse. Had that before and thought the chain needed extra links but it was too slack in other gears then. Slacking the b tension fixed it.

    njee20
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    It’s a problem with the carbon carrier, friend of mine is having issues too. Definitely cassette.

    BIGMAN
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    There is noise in a bulk of the gears now.

    It’s been stripped 3 times now and cleaned and greased to various amounts. As was mentioned it seems worse on none Shimano hubs. Hope and King seem bad.

    There was a post above from another use also with Hope hub creak.

    By LBS are going to look it over again.

    Tempted to try the carbon paste idea on the carbon carriers……

    jemima
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    If the noise in most of the gears it doesn’t lend to the chain-line argument.
    I wonder if it’s to do with the carbon spider to sprocket interface… or the aluminium ring to spider interface…
    Sounds like it might be worth trying to warranty it. Trying an alternative XTR cassette might be interesting if the LBS have one on e.g. demo bike…

    Update: oh, and I assume you have the very thin ‘washer’ between lock-ring and 11 tooth?

    BIGMAN
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    I sure do have the spacer. All is set up as it should be.

    I will try the carbon paste on the interface and see what happens. If not it’s going back to Madison. I’ve already spoken with them and they are happy to look.

    Local shop have one on a King. Same creaking but not quite as bad. My creak has got steadily worse over last week or so. Creaking has moved to most gear. Interestingly the ring that never creaks in the 40tooth. The 36 is horrific and anything lower than that creaks when out the saddle or under load.

    eshershore
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    I get the same issue with my 10 speed XTR cassette on my newish DT Swiss 350 rear hub; did not have the same with the same cassette on my steel body Specialized Stout rear hub

    when I downshift from the middle of the cassette into the smaller cogs it disappears, as soon as I shift back up it reappears

    frustrating annoying noise, not that it affects the gear function, but who wants to be wearing headphones to block an offending annoyance whilst riding in the lovely woods

    bfein1075
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    Has anyone figured this out? I seem to have a weird noise when I’m in the third biggest cog or there abouts and I’m cranking up a quick steep hill.

    I have taken it apart a few times and Can’t find an issue with it. I saw one poster used carbon paste but I can’t see how that would help considering there is a center ring of metal holding the cassette on. The carbon is only in the middle.

    honeybadgerx
    Full Member

    I’ve not had this problem, but have had a one up 45t fitted from the start, so that might have influenced things?

    geordiepaul
    Free Member

    I’ve just had this problem with a dura ace 9000 cassette. Gone back for a replacement which hopefully won’t have the same issue.

    dirtyrider
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    It will, never fixed the issue have they? 9 million post thread on weight weenies, rarely off the front page

    lovewookie
    Full Member

    just one of the sacrifices you have to make for buying a race groupset..

    was one of the things I was told when the tiny little chainring bolts on my M900 8 speed cassette came loose and got lost in the undergrowth.

    mashiehood
    Free Member

    i had a similar problem with two Dura Ace 9000 cassettes – bike shop replaced it with a SRAM red as they were sick of dealing with DA cassettes. All sorted.

    bfein1075
    Free Member

    I have been running XTR for years with no issue. COuld it be anything other than cassette?

    geordiepaul
    Free Member

    It will, never fixed the issue have they? 9 million post thread on weight weenies, rarely off the front page

    Have you got a link to the thread?

    geordiepaul
    Free Member

    🙁 not good news

    bfein1075
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    IS the durace the exact same thing?

    daver27
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    No issues with mine on a hope hub from new. There are issues with some, seems to be the rivets fixing the ti sprockets to the carbon.
    It should be a warranty job, i’d be insisting on that given what they cost.
    or just get your money back and buy an XT M8000.

    bfein1075
    Free Member

    No issues with mine on a hope hub from new. There are issues with some, seems to be the rivets fixing the ti sprockets to the carbon.
    It should be a warranty job, i’d be insisting on that given what they cost.
    or just get your money back and buy an XT M8000.

    Can people see the issue with the rivets into the ti? I took mine apart and it looked fine.

    chickenman
    Full Member

    I found the rivets holding the a pair of cogs together (the smallest of the Ti ones) were loose. Cured by putting Araldite under the rivet heads and taking up the slack by winding several turns of thin polyester line round the smaller rivet end (the line came from mesh jointing tape as used by plasterers). Sealed with more Araldite then hardened in oven at 50deg.
    Would have done warranty but can’t manage without a cassette for 4 months.

    gazhurst
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    Has had their XTR cassette successfully warrantied?

    Mine has now become unbearable. I’ve tried everything…I’ve greased the freehub, greased the interface of the hub and cassette, put fibre grip on the carbon interfaces of the cassette and tightened it to the correct torque but it just seems to be getting worse.

    Its on a 3 year warranty so it’s going back to Madison this week but I just wanted to check if anyone else has managed to get a replacement from them?

    BIGMAN
    Free Member

    Mine has now gone back to Madison. They seem to be replacing these under warranty.

    Creaking also got worse as did the grinding noise in the top 3 gears.

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