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  • wors
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    if you get made redundant?

    I would if i couldn’t get something that i was qualified to do, until something came along.

    Would you?

    Absolutely, your more likely to find the employment role that you do want if you show how much you are willing to work, rather than shirking

    No brainer. Any work is better than no work. Plus, I couldn’t live with myself if I had to sign on, not after all the criticism I’ve levelled at the scrounging classes in my time.
    Not likely to happen though, not unless I really fall out with myself and give me my P45…

    andywhit
    Member

    Na, I’d become a pro-gambler.

    Gary_M
    Member

    yep shelf stacker, whatever. Friend of mine has recently been made redundancy from the banking sector, he’s waiting for the right job to come up whilst he sits on his arse. I’ve told him it’ll end in tears.

    Premier Icon nickc
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    been there done that, warehouse work, shelf stacking, delivery driver. it’s all money

    noteeth
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    he’s waiting for the right job to come up

    And now’s the time to aim for that dream job. Me? Cleaning Sandra Bullock’s collection of FMBs (with my tongue, if necessary). I’d do it for free.

    Premier Icon mboy
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    No brainer. Any work is better than no work. Plus, I couldn’t live with myself if I had to sign on, not after all the criticism I’ve levelled at the scrounging classes in my time.
    Not likely to happen though, not unless I really fall out with myself and give me my P45…

    It’s all too easy to say something like that, but until the situation happens to you, you don’t know how you’d react!

    Singletrack there is a distinct difference between someone who signs on and a scrounger. your post could be offensive to a lot of people on here that have been paid off recently.

    Yes if you have a specialised skill, now is the time to look for an unskilled job in the retail sector – eg stacking shelves.

    The retail sector is an expanding area of the economy right now, and you will find there’s very little competition for the vast amount of available jobs – getting a job should be a piece of p1ss. And the drop in wages won’t in any way effect your existing financial commitments.

    Yes, life is good in the land of the fairies.

    uplink
    Member

    It’s all too easy to say something like that, but until the situation happens to you, you don’t know how you’d react!

    Yep,

    The same as I did in the early eighties & again in the early nineties – I took anything that was paying, if it was really crap I moved on to the next low paid job when it arrived
    Anyone that sits on their backside waiting for something they feel suits them is – IMO – a lazy ****t

    jedi
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    i insured my mortgage and have rainy day savings so i can wait for a bit for the right job.if not then a change of plan will be in effect

    timbur
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    Currently working in a bar due to being made redundant. It’s ace but the money isn’t great. Missing the car but survivng!

    Premier Icon Stoner
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    Hows the job hunting going tim? you still looking in agency or going to leave the industry?

    When I wasnt working in real estate I got a bar job or two. ’tis good fun if the financial pressure isnt too great.

    Do you think there will be much call for a ‘Gigilo’ ?

    jedi
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    im still looking in telecoms

    Premier Icon Stoner
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    why restrict yourself to just one market Mr. ‘rentboy’ neverfastenuff? 🙂

    Good call, I never thought of that. 😈

    Premier Icon crazy-legs
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    I’m looking in chemistry/chemical engineering and while that’s going on, no I’m not going to take myself down to the local Tesco.
    However if after a few more weeks I’m not sorted then yes, I will reconsider my options.

    At the moment the gap is a useful opportunity to try and get my life into some sort of order, consider my options and also ride my bike a bit more. Not going to waste that. Although if it’s any consolation to the Daily Mail readers amongst you, I don’t like being on the dole either.

    Rich
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    Well, I’m a carpenter and I recently applied to Alton Towers!!

    Says it all really.

    Didn’t get it though. 🙁

    So when you are one of the forecasted 3 million unemployed and the employers are getting choosy over who they employ, you will be grateful for any money you can get.

    Current JSA is £60.50 for a single bloke.
    Current minimum wage for a 40hour week is over £200

    I know what i would do

    GJP
    Member

    If it meant the difference between keeping and losing my house then yes I would take the job; but if it I would end up losing my home anyway then not really sure what is to be gained – completely fecked either way.

    daj
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    Reference Snigletrack comment

    in the current climate thats one of the most mindless stupid comment I have read on here …. Take a bow

    jedi – Member

    ….. have rainy day savings ……

    The government has already done that for you. Presumably over the years you paid your NI contributions ? Well you now have the right to claim what you’re legally entitled to. It’s not charity – it’s your money.

    In the same way that the money which the insurance companies cough up after someone’s had a prang in their car, also isn’t charity.

    djglover
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    yep, been on the dole and minimum wage before, I’d much rather be on minimum wage.

    chewkw
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    wors:”if you get made redundant?

    I would if i couldn’t get something that i was qualified to do, until something came along.

    Would you?”

    Yes, I definitely would or if you have some other skills and a risk taker then start your own if you can, but it can be hell for two years at least until the business is stable.

    Oh ya … partnership is hell and you get stab in the back.

    😀

    Premier Icon Sandwich
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    Well done Snigletrack a prize example of what’s wrong in the current climate.

    mudshark
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    We can live off my wife’s income so I wouldn’t take any job but would compromise – something IT/business related that I found worthwhile. Wouldn’t be overly concerned about the salary though. I’d like to think I’d spend some of my unemployed time learning stuff. I don’t know if I’d qualify for the dole – doubt it.

    wors
    Member

    I had an argument with a guy i work with (Mech Engineering) and he said he wouldn’t take any job as he was “too Qualified”!!

    I told him what a mates dad used to say, “if you can use a spade you can get a job”

    Premier Icon Stoner
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    ernie – you’re kind of right.

    The problem with our NI system is that it is a current paying one. i.e. there’s not a pot into which contributions have been put from which contributors can draw. It all goes into the treasury one day and out the next like any tax. The same applies to state pensions as opposed to private ones.

    One certainly has a moral right to claim benefit having contributed, but it’s not the “same” money. It sounds like semantics but really, economically, it means that just when you need to draw on social security, so does every other unlucky bugger who’s been made redundant which puts a huge pressure on the tax revenue from everyone else (not that I begrudge it) just when the NI income is falling.

    Premier Icon GrahamA
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    Current JSA is £60.50 for a single bloke.
    Current minimum wage for a 40hour week is over £200

    I think that the real trap is casual or agency work where you may only get a few hours a week. This can cause a lot of hassle signing on and off.

    The problem with our NI system is that it is a current paying one

    Yeah I’m aware of that, and I did wonder whether anyone would be bothered to point it out.
    But no, the fiver which might be handed to Jedi today, isn’t necessarily the same fiver which he handed over five years ago.

    And I suppose that you could argue that if an insurance company handed over £10k for a car which you wrote off, even though you had only paid £250 for a year’s insurance, they’re not just giving you back your £250.

    It’s still your money though – it’s not charity.

    Premier Icon mboy
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    Current JSA is £60.50 for a single bloke.
    Current minimum wage for a 40hour week is over £200

    I think that the real trap is casual or agency work where you may only get a few hours a week. This can cause a lot of hassle signing on and off.

    And whilst it’s usually easy enough to find a few hours work per week, maybe a couple of full days worth, it’s not always that easy to find 40 hours per week, even at minimum wage!

    Hence for a lot of people it’s usually more productive to spend a week/2/3 re-doing your CV, and getting it out to as many relevant job vacancies as possible. Beyond a month it’s certainly worth taking whatever you can get your hands on in the meantime though, and this is what I will be doing should I not have hundreds of job interviews start landing on my doorstep within the next few days.

    falkirk_mark – Member
    Singletrack there is a distinct difference between someone who signs on and a scrounger. your post could be offensive to a lot of people on here that have been paid off recently.

    Note to self: must make a conscious effort not to offend the scrounging classes.

    [rolls eyes]

    Premier Icon mboy
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    Note to self: must make a conscious effort not to offend the scrounging classes.

    Whilst I’m pretty far from being a left wing socialist myself, I don’t think it’s possible for anyone to be more right wing than yourself! Though I suspect you’re just being rather tongue in cheek.

    Having signed on recently myself, I could spend quite some time pointing out some of the ridiculous loopholes that it’s all too easy for the lazy and workshy to work their way around (for instance, you are under no pressure to accept a job that paid less than your last one even should you be offered it, well not for months at least), which many people quite probably do! But as Falkirk Mark says, there’s a significant difference between some of us recently been made redundant and the terminally unemployed.

    Despite my right of centre political views, I do believe in some form of welfare state, though I do believe the one we have currently is ridiculously compromised, corrupted and open to manipulation by those that choose to do so.

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    No. I’ve got ideas for a business which aren’t ever going to happen unless I got made redundant, at which point the redundancy money would tide me over for long enough to get it up and running (and to see out the worst of the recsssion).

    samuri
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    absolutely not. I’ve been there. I’ve spent many thousands of hours paying into the benefits system, it’s only fair it supports me while I look for more work in the appropriate business sector where I can get another job which pays me in relation to my skills so I can start paying back into the system again. If I get a job as a van driver in the meantime, that’s going to slow my attempts to get a professional job again.

    When I was unemployed, I spent a lot of time online and on the phone chasing potential employers, visiting HR teams, building up my skillsets, chasing business as a contractor. If I were stacking shelves I’d not have the time to do that.

    samuri
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    Oh, and in difficult times like now, as when I was unemployed…. If you contract and only get short term work with two or three weeks between contracts…… signing off is something you will regret, I did. i just kept myself on the dole in the end, it saved me and the system a huge amount of money and time.

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    I am trying to take any job in Perth, got turned down for veg packing as it would take too long to train me as I was only going to be about for 4 weeks. They are still advertising for jobs 2 weeks after they said no to me!! Bit worried about how involved veg packing had become.

    So I am looking for anything and hopefully will find some soon

    Whilst I’m pretty far from being a left wing socialist myself, I don’t think it’s possible for anyone to be more right wing than yourself! Though I suspect you’re just being rather tongue in cheek.

    There’s a big difference between being right wing and having pride and self respect. I personally couldn’t take a handout even if I was entitled to. So yes, I’d do whatever job I had to to make a crust. That was the question the OP asked, and that’s my answer.

    As for offending people with my choice of words, if people are offended they need to MTFU and stop being so precious. There’s a world of difference between the scrounging classes to whom I was referring and someone who’s been made redundant and uses the welfare system for the purpose it was intended – to help people get back on their feet.

    People who think that jobs are beneath them are the biggest single problem this country has. Everyone seems to think they deserve to walk straight into a £60k-a-year job, be a professional footballer, or a celebrity without having the requisite talent, knowledge or basic aptitude.

    Life is cruel, and if you’re not gifted with a razor-sharp mind or midas-like business acumen, then you should do a job commensurate with your skill level. If that means you earn less than a barrister or have to do work that you consider menial, then that’s tough. And I have no qualms whatsoever about offending people like that. I have far more respect for those who get off their arses and do a job of work in return for a pay packet.

    I’m self employed – I own a graphic design company and I develop rental properties. I’m happy to do anything in my line of work from rodding drains and making brews, to accounting and representing myself in legal matters.
    I spent the Christmas period plastering walls and this weekend I’m digging out and rerouting sewers.

    Nothing is beneath me and I’m proud to say that I’d do any job rather than accept a handout.

    Snigle
    :o)

    I have… A few years ago I had my contract terminated (no more work to do) and looked for new work in IT, but the market was still recovering from 9/11. So I ended up taking a job in London which meant close on 2 hours travel each day, and was so mind numbingly dull I thought I would go out my mind, but stuck with it while hunting for another job. Used to have to phone up places like Tesco’s and speak to the people at the tobacco counters and ask them to reboot those advertising screens.

    Premier Icon MoreCashThanDash
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    Had this conversation with MrsSwadey last night – things may get dodgy work wise later in the year (having one of those “safe” public sector easy jobs!)

    In the past I’ve done dull call centre drone stuff and worked in a sorting office rather than claim the dole, and I’d try low paid stuff while looking for a job again. If it didn’t work out, we’d swap roles as she can walk into a better paying job that is recession proof, and I’d look after the kids.

    I’d feel no stigma in claiming JSA if I needed to – that is why I’ve paid into the system for 20 years.

    As a former employer, if I’m faced with two guys qualifed for the same job at interview, one of whom has sat around waiting for the job to drop into his lap, and the other who’d stacked shelves or swept streets in the meantime, guess which one I’m likely to be more impressed with?

    Yes

    1. Look for another a job were I can use my existing experience, even overseas if necessary
    2. In parallel, start doing some other work, ideally over the weekend with 1-2 days off midweek
    3. Use all spare “office hours” to hassle someone else into giving me a job with a commensurate salary.

    Immediately review and curb all unnecessary expenditure. That does not include primary car, telephones and broadband because these would be needed to get me another job. It would include: debt payments, holidays, tvlicence, petrol, 2nd car, heating, water consumption, food luxuries, pub, resturants, other social expenditure, magazines, possibly some insurances.

    Let’s hope it doesn’t happen.

    tyke
    Member

    Been in this position twice in the past 6 years. I wouldn’t take any job as I’m with Samuri – would want to have flexibility to attend interviews and networking events.

    Also I don’t think it would look too good to potential emploers if I did just anything because the perception would be that I not good at my job if I can’t get a role in the line of work I have spent most of my career in.

    The only reason I would sign on is not for the money but to keep my NI contributions up to date. Also as I previously had mortgage insurance at the time it was worth more to sign on and claim the insurance than it was to take any old low paid work.

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