- would you pay? (Trail Centres)
I very rarely go to trail centres so look on it as a bit of a mission, and a treat. Reckon I'd pay £10 a day without fretting as long as the experience was a good one. More would irritate, especially if there was a parking charge and the tea and cake was pricey. Maybe £35-50 for a season ticket perhaps. But I'd want it to be transferable between centres for that.Posted 8 years agotrailmonkeyMember
It would be hard for me to justify travelling to a trail centre, then pay to ride it when I have Dartmoor for free on my doorstep. I think most people who live around the National Parks would feel the same. Although if you want to broaden the point, I would pay for an annual permit to ride on Dartmoor if they were to widen the access so I don't have to break the law on a weekly basis 😳Posted 8 years agotheboatmanMember
Times are going to be tight over the coming years, so if a trail centre costs money to maintain then, yep would pay. I wouldn't expect publc funds to pay for them, as there are more important things to fund . I only use them 2/3 times a year though, as the Peak is free 🙂Posted 8 years agoahwilesSubscriber
i think that more trails should use some form of pay-pal-esque honesty box.
in a 'i honestly forgot to donate when i was there, here's a couple of quid' style.
i've ridden at penmachno twice, and have forgotten to pay up twice, a pay-pal account seems like an easy way to catch people like me.Posted 8 years ago
I would pay for an annual permit to ride on Dartmoor if they were to widen the access so I don't have to break the law on a weekly basis
same here with the Peak – if i got something in return and not just a cafe personally i would be happy to pay for the dynamite to blow up fairholmes
as to original question – i'd be hard pushed to think of any other outdoor activity that demands facilities but doesn't pay for them
(fortunately i'm just off out!)Posted 8 years agojulianwilsonMember
Horse riders pay for annual permit at my local (FC) woods.Posted 8 years ago
If it goes back into trails, why not? Haldon forest put the proceeds of their car park into the trails network and loos etc. (until the meter got stolen!) Only thing is that getting money from parking is easy to charge and police, not so for access/riding with people riding in and out or at night.stumpyjonSubscriber
Yes, but I'd also like the option of putting in some voluntary time and getting a free pass. Good to see people on here generally appreciate the difference between access rights and the costs associated with maintained trails.
Biggest problem starts to occur when you get charged but the trails start to degrade. Paying (a reasonable) charge for parking seems the best way to go at the moment and is generally well accepted.Posted 8 years ago
Ok some interesting points re: maintaining them etc. But remembering these forests were once in public ownership and paid for through our taxes etc, what did we get back in return when they were all sold off? Not much… The same could be said for Public Rights Of Way: Supposing they were sold off, would you pay to ride on a Bridle Way? Surely its the same.. Jusy a few thoughts, I am still on the fence…Posted 8 years agovinnyehSubscriber
Yes, happily, especially in places that have no facilities to generate income. Although facilities are nice to have, it's the trails I'm interested in, and think the facilites should be self funding.Posted 8 years ago
I'd prefer to see a rider permit too, rather than hefty carpark charges.
in the 80's worked with the BMC on a handbook for climbing walls – design, management etc
at the time decent climbing walls were far and few and there was a trend to climbers helping a local authority centre build them to keep costs down and a strong philosphy from some groups that cost should be low – at the time the guide used was price of a pint of beer
along came some commercial operators opened large facilities, well maintained and charged 3-4X price of pint and people queued out the door – most cities now have competing facilities and that has in real terms kept the price down and the quality upPosted 8 years agoGaVgAsMember
I think theres some good points here,security would be nice bonus,I understand all FC parking charges are put into one fund,I was talking to some locals at Hamsterley forest recently, and they have had very little, if any money for building new trails over the last year. 😥
I think the odd notice around some of these centres advising the users that the trails are funded with the parking charges would be a nice idea.Posted 8 years ago
As the letter submitted in What MTB and MBR this month… Would you pay a fee to ride at a Forestry Trail Centre (not including parking fees)? The lettets are in light of Penmacho but what about all the others…? A (very loose) point to consider maybe for those who remember the Thatcher years. Not only did she snatch milk but also our forests! They are ours to ride in….Comments pleasePosted 8 years agoweb_toed_marsdenerMember
Hmmm. Is timber not the purpose for most of this forest? Trail centres are supplementary to the original use of the land. I would want to see the costing of supporting mtb related activity on FC land.
Although Llangedla is not FC, if they charged all visitors a £10er for every visit this summer, there would have been an obscene amount of money made. That wouldn't make it right, and couldn't see myself using a centre that based its income on a maximum profit model.
It's the thin end of the wedge 🙂 The next thing will be regulation and insurance issues and claims and associated b.s.
Best avoided.Posted 8 years ago
Interesting about what would be next..? Quite agree and I fear Forestry making money out of 'our fees'. They took the forests from us they should be funding our needs! Slowly making my mind up (and waiting to be shot!). If memory serves me right on condition of the forests being s…old off, the new owners (mainly FC)had to provide recreational opportunities for the public… Any old skool FC workers on here that remeber the sell off?Posted 8 years agojoolsburgerMember
I can see this ending up with MTB only allowed in designated "theme parks" for 10 quid a day, health and saftey, keep em away from walkers, dogs, children etc etc. They have special places for that MTB lark and so on.
I have my Swinley thing which was £20 odd for the year but frankly I hardly ride there anymore as it's just too…..organised.Posted 8 years agorkk01Member
WTF???? You guys are off your rockers
What is it with the British (English???) obsession with paying for what is already yours 👿
We've been conditioned to pay (through the nose) for everything – note to the parking thread – last time I was in France most towns had free parking because the local councils wanted to encourage custom, not rip off visitors…
Do people pay for the privilege of having a kick around at the local sports fields??
Do you pay to go hill walking in the "wilds"??
Do you expect to pay to go for a blast on a road bike or commute to work – and yes the roads DO need maintaining and money is allegedly spent on making the roads more "cycle friendly"
As far as I recall, lots of the trail centres have been partially grant funded (originally) and mainenance of Afan etc are currently beneficiaries of sponsorship deals.
The Government throws money at trying to encourage a healthier lifestyle…
… get out there and enjoy it and don't let some marketing / franchising ****t charge you for what they should have no right to extort money forPosted 8 years ago
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