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  • Worst car in the world?
  • themightymowgli
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    Austin Maestro Clubman. Now there is a car that’ll bore the tits off beige

    tthew
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    Worst one I ever owned was a Citroen ZX Volcane. Had other ZX’s, they were a fine design, and the Volcane turbo diesel at the time had all the right ingredients to be a proper good car. Sorted chassis, pokey diesel motor, economical. Except this one was wrecked when I bought it. there’s no way the list of stuff I had to fix was there when I test drove it. I’m convinced the robbing shisyer of a trader I bought it off swapped the plates between the one I tested and the one collected.

    gordimhor
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    Worst car I ever had was a Ford Sierra 1.6l It was expensive to buy and quickly turned into a rust bucket. It was 3 years old when I bought it and had to scrap it a year later.
    So I bought a Lada Riva for £50 and ran it for 3 years no problem Steering was like steering a boat, driver side window had to be wedged up, and heating was either off or full but I sold it after 3 years for £30.

    angeldust
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    God I hate Vauxhalls

    trail_rat
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    I read the first three points and assumed you were talking about a Zoe edukator 😉

    butcher
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    Second one I was reluctantly talked into buying (from my parents). It’s already had everything fixed, they said. Nothing else left to go wrong, they said…

    Both lasted about 6 months. Never again. I won’t ever buy a Ford based on my experience of those two cars.

    MrOvershoot
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    trail_rat – Member

    I’ll go for the Austin princess.

    Only car I know to cause my father to swear in front of me 1981 IIRC

    2 years later he thanked me for persuading him to buy a Golf

    Klunk
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    do love ford fiesta horror stories 🙂 back in the mid 90’s I got to see much of the body work production (from drawing office to shell) at dagenham. Oh my god what a shambles, the shells would be at about 10-12 at a time driven on a airport style trolley system down the a11 from one side of the plant to the other in all weathers before paint :). When we arrived at the fabrication plant we were advised not to touch anything as it was so so dirty. When we were also doing work for Nissan in sunderland it was so clean you could have eaten off the floors !

    vondally
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    Mini metro,…….in yellow

    grey
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    My MK2 Fiesta was totally unreliable, plagued by electrical failures.
    Got so fed up I scrapped it, it was in mint condition too.
    Weirdly the best car I’ve had was a Morris Ital complete with velour upholstery , tinted windows and vinyl roof.
    Thing just kept running and no rust either 😯

    downhillfast
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    I had the displeasure of driving a Tata pickup a few years ago.
    The cheapest nastiest most basic interior I’ve ever sat in, the gaps between body panels were hilarious!
    I doubt it had ever been 4wd, it handled like a tractor on ice.
    Truly terrible, but they were cheap, and didn’t break down!

    johndoh
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    Worst one I ever owned was a Citroen ZX Volcane

    I had the Furio. Needed a top half of the engine rebuild at about 20k and, despite being accused of being a quick car, it couldn’t match my mate’s big standard 1.6 Sierra in a straight drag race.

    And it used to randomly cut power at low speeds so I took it back under warranty and got a Clio RSi (you’d have thought I’d learnt not to buy French) but that was a cracking little car.

    stavromuller
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    At the turn of the Millenium I had an Astra van as a company vehicle and although it was uncomfortable on long drives it was ok. Then one week, one of my co workers needed the Astra but let me use his car, unfortunately this happened to be an FSO Polonez, which has to be the most despicable piece of sh1t to be called a car. It had absolutely no redeeming features, so I parked it up in the factory yard and caught the bus for the rest of the week.

    bobgarrod
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    Ford Orion – we had one as a pool car BITD. Awful to steer – heavy/unresponsive- bastid to park. Had a collection of exterior and interior trim on the back seat after it had fallen off.

    Inbred456
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    There’s a lot of bollocks spoken about Rovers on this forum. Unless you’ve had one and I’ve had a few you can’t really comment. The best one I had was a bog 216Si 110bhp. Yes it had a head gasket at 90K but that’s it. Just routine servicing. Much more reliable than the poxy 306D we had before it. Similar fuel economy and it could really shift. Handled great as well. Apart from the cosworth models everything Ford did pre focus was utter sh!te. I still have nightmares about that Peugeot.

    windyg
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    1.8 Petrol RangeRover Freelander, blowing a headgasket was just expected followed by the viscous coupling, and everything inside would just stop working, windows, clock, sunroof, doorlocks etc

    nickfrog
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    Usually driven by people I’d soil myself to avoid.

    Also any other premium status-trinket sporty SUV.

    I think they’ll be grateful for you avoiding them and might consider a side benefit of their car as being the ability to easily annoy reverse snobs and narrow minded people who judge others they don’t know based on the car they drive. I don’t blame them !

    namastebuzz
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    Had heaps of cars over the past 30 years and even the crap ones have had redeeming features. The Rover 75/ MG ZT was a decent car BTW. As was the 2CV.

    Worst car? Citroen C4 Grand Picasso. I’ve had some good Citroens but this was the most poorly made, unreliable, overcomplicated piece of junk I’ve ever owned.

    Doing any job on it was a total nightmare as everything disintegrated in your hands.

    Had 10 Saabs. All great.

    mogrim
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    bodgy – Member
    Citreon 2CV. Parents had them when I was a kid. Just terrible, no redeeming features at all, as far as I am concerned.

    Same, might have a different opinion now it’s a “classic”, but as an 18 year old it was slow, noisy, uncomfortable and embarrassing.

    oink1
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    2CV – hoot to drive. Had one at a place I used to work that we used as a runaround between sites. Un- rollable! – we tried everytime we had to drive it!! You could almost reach out the funny little window & touch the road 😯 Loved that thing 🙂

    PJM1974
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    In 2000, I was tasked with driving to Barnstaple to install some software. My employer at the time had a wealth of pool cars and there was a certain pride taken in providing some decent cars for staff.

    Unfortunately, on that particular week, everything was suddenly unavailable. No Puma, no Hyundai Coupe, no Audi A3…I was summarily issued with the “emergency” pool car, a 1994 Vauxhall Astra diesel with well over 150k on the odometer.

    Having just stepped out of a Golf Mk2 16v, I knew I was going to hate the damn thing. By the time I reached the M25, I had a nagging back ache, because the steering wheel was offset two inches to the left. The steering didn’t seem to do much, nor did the brakes and throttle. The ride was bouncy and incredibly jarring. Oh and the seats were terrible.

    I’ve harboured a visceral hatred of the Mk 3 Astra ever since, a truly dreadful car that should never have been signed off. Your early 1990s Ford Escort is quite rightly held as the zeitgeist of piss-poor value for money, being utterly crap in every way, yet one of those handled like a track car compared to the Astra I drove.

    willard
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    I was going to say that this was a tricky one, but it’s not. The worst car in the world was my M plate Rover 620 SLDi.

    I have no idea what trim level SLDi stood for, or what amazing stuff I got, but it lunched a gearbox and gradually broke so much stuff, I was glad to sell it on eBay and watch it leave my life (in 3rd gear only and leaking oil from the crankcase). I only bought the car because that Perkins 2 litre diesel was supposed to be efficient. I told myslef that was the last time I would buy a car based ona spreadsheet.

    An honourable mention goes to the Austin Ambassador. It was just a tarted up Princess and was simply appalling. I’m glad my dad swapped it out for a Rover Vanden Plas.

    teasel
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    Hey!

    My first car was a squits-coloured Allegro, you bastids.

    tjagain
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    Worst car I have driven? A tossup between the pool hyundai i10 which was just cheap and nasty and borderline dangerous probably from abuse as a pool car – it didn’t go in straight lines, it crashed, banged and bounced over bumps in the road and understeered really badly or the hyundai people carrier i800 I hired that was just a huge wallowy sluggish thing with an awful 3 sp plus overdrive auto box. The 130 tourer was conversely rather nice.

    I love 2cvs even as an 18yr old driving my mothers one

    trail_rat
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    mines was the much hated mk3 fiesta up there in a 1.8 diesel flavour.

    the worst car ive actually owned was a hyundai lantra 1.6 SI owned since new by my parents, passed down to me when i graduated to replace my aging rusty good running escort…..

    it was built for someone much smaller than i , i had to lie back in the thing to drive it or my head was in the roof , this gave me back pain , it was nasty for gettting bikes in and it was also horrendously unreliable….infact 2 weeks into my ownership the ecu died

    johndoh
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    2CV – Had one at a place I used to work that we used as a runaround between sites. Un- rollable!

    We had one at our work too many moons ago – and I was trying out how un-rollable it was when, mid-corner, I remembered I had a trailer fitted and the trailer was piled high with wooden picnic tables we were taking into storage. I looked in the mirror to see a very jauntily-angled load nearly go flying across Knaresborough High Street 🙂

    maccruiskeen
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    I’ve owned very few cars (I’m on my 4th in 30 years) but I’ve hired an awful lot.

    The one I was most reluctant to hand back, surprisingly, was a Kia Venga. The hire co I use is also a dealer and their hire fleet tends to be the top of the range, feature-laden behemoths that are difficult to sell – so if I book ‘something like a Zafira’ I tend to get given a £50k V Class. So the Kia was a bit of a surprise to get given and its the comfiest, best thought out, most intuitive car I’ve ever driven.

    The one I couldn’t hand back quickly enough was a Renault Megane with ‘Speed Adaptive Steering’ – totally counter intuitive having the rate for response from the steering wheel changing with speed. Fine when you’re actually steering – going round bends – but just staying in a lane on a straight motorway seemed to require thought and effort – surprisingly draining on long trips.

    PJM1974
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    I feel a twinge of sadness when reading about how utterly crap the Austin Princess was. The design was cutting edge – the first car which parked its’ wipers below the bonnet line and it was front wheel drive too.

    It’s just a shame that it was built by British Leyland, who managed to cock up practically everything.

    failedengineer
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    I won’t bore everyone with tales of all the crap cars I’ve owned – Hillman Imp, MG Midgets, Fiat 127, Triumph Herald, Metro, etc. However, on a similar subject I saw an old Renault Scenic in a car park yesterday with a big ‘Renault Scenic Owners Club’ sticker on the back window. Be proud of your crap car!

    hot_fiat
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    For some stupid reason, my girlfriend at the time and I bought a fiat 126bis in 1996. It was truly dreadful in every way. Scared the living daylights out of me on every motorway journey as it’d get trapped in the wheel track of lorries in the slow lane (where it belonged).

    The horizontally positioned 27bhp engine “drove” the rear wheel through a 4-speed box, with a crash 1st gear all hidden under a hatch in the boot floor. Rear suspension was by lethal swinging arm which had various degrees of camber depending on how much crosswind there was.

    Front suspension was by shared leaf spring which also pretended to be the lower wishbone in attempt at a sort of double wishbone setup. It had kingpins that required greasing every week, lest the hub carriers seize up, like an austin 7.

    The cooling system had the radiator in the nearside wheel arch which didn’t have enough airflow or fan capacity so you’d have to run the heater all the time. Except the heater fan switch didn’t operate through a relay, so the things used to burn out resulting in smoke emanating from the instrument binnacle.

    It allegedly had hydraulic brakes. I suspect the middle pedal was just a telegraph annunciator to some rodents in the hubs.

    It remains the only vehicle that I’ve ever spun on the public highway.

    mike_p
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    My first car was an Austin Maestro, bastard child of the despised Allegro, which was pretty shocking. But then it was cheap, easy to fix, and expectations were low from the outset, so it’s not the worst I’ve had.

    That honour goes to the Fiat 500 (new shape). It’s a jaunty little car to be sure, but in terms of engineering it’s unbelievably crap, every part supplied by the lowest bidder irrespective of whether it works or lasts. After 2yrs everything was worn out, falling off or breaking, even on the day I got shot of the fekkin thing!

    Fix
    It
    Again
    Tomorrow

    ThePinkster
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    I’ve ranted on elsewhere, several times, about my Fiat Doblo in this esteemed organ so won’t go on about it here, but the worst hire car I’ve ever had was a Vauxhall Corsa, circa 2004.

    I had to pick a colleague then drive it from Nantwich to Leeds for a meeting wit one of our customers. When I got to Andy’s he thought there was a 2 cylinder dumper truck coming down the road, not me in the Corsa.

    It was diesel (don’t think there was a turbo) only seemed to be firing off 2 cylinders and bearing in mind it was January the heating didn’t appear to work either.

    The journey down the M62 was quite interesting. The snow was building up along the motorway and the engine was so noisy only way to hear travel news was to have the radio so loud the widows were rattling. It would only do a max of about 65mph on the flat and because of the weather I was never sure if it was the steering or the snow that was causing it to drift constantly to one side.

    Both front seats had collapsed so were more like sitting in deckchairs.

    Having got to Leeds one of the meetings were cancelled due to the weather (others couldn’t get down from Newcastle on the train) and the first meeting could have been done over the phone, so we had to endure the whole journey back in that hateful car, only ti find that our exit on the M62 was closed and had to travel on to Warrington to get off.

    I’ve had a pathological dislike of Corsas ever since.

    johndoh
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    Then there as the Alfa Arna – a car jointly designed and built by Italians and Japanese. However, Nissan designed it and Alfa built it – a recipe for disaster.

    It also had internal disk brakes and spark plugs so inaccessible that a small child would struggle to get to them without dropping the engine out.

    DaveyBoyWonder
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    Worst car I’ve ever driven was my in-laws Renault Megane Scenic. Awful interior, awful/borderline dangerous performance. Just an all round right POS.

    johnx2
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    Awful cars can be magnificent, it’s all about your expectations.

    I learned to drive in a Vauxhall Chevette. I was not expecting the gear lever to come away in my hand as I attempted a three point turn outside the Ale House opposite Leeds Uni as my dad was buying beer. More than three points may have been needed. Or indeed pints. (Managed somehow to jam it into 2nd to get home. That was fun.)

    newrobdob
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    I think people are confusing reliabilty with genuine crapness.

    I think you’d struggle to say a Fiesta was the worst car in the world when millions of people bought them and they generally were reliable for them over billions of miles……

    It should be a car that had no right to be on the road, that was particularly dangerous or badly thought out to such a degree that it was extremely difficult or challenging to drive.

    There is an obvious special award, a unique place in design hell, reserved for the wonderful Ssangyong Rodius though….

    edhornby
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    odd lack of American cars here – massive thirsty engines that pump out some seriously terrible emissions, size of a barge and handle like them… my mate has an authentic bluesmobile to drive to gigs in with the band when we do full on blues bros tribute, it’s a right load of nightmare and I’m glad I don’t own it

    rusty makes a good point about those Porsche things, the Bentley Bentayga is also pretty disgusting, they are 2.1m wide and the legal requirement for a carriageway in the UK is 2.4m !!!

    I had a ZX I liked and it was replaced by a truly awful ZX, it had a turboless diesel engine and the suspension was rotting – it set itself on fire because someone did a dodgy wire repair and I shed no tears when it went

    P-Jay
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    odd lack of American cars here – massive thirsty engines that pump out some seriously terrible emissions, size of a barge and handle like them… my mate has an authentic bluesmobile to drive to gigs in with the band when we do full on blues bros tribute, it’s a right load of nightmare and I’m glad I don’t own it

    TBH US cars are a product of their environment. Old ones are shit, but old cars worldwide were shit – especially pre-70s when the Japanese ‘invented’ quality control and reliability.

    P-Jay
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    Anyway – I’ve taken a few days to think about this.

    The worst car I’ve ever owned was a Mondeo LX Diesel – it was brown, it smoked like Doc Cotton, it’s the only car I’ve owned that broke down whilst I was driving it and left me stranded – I’ve had other refuse to start, or ‘play up’ but it’s the first and only car that ever just gave up and left me in the middle of a roundabout – all over a £12 sensor, no warning either by dash light or driving oddly – drove until it didn’t. When I went I had my pregnant wife and son in the car – felt a complete failure. The interior smelled terrible, everything was nasty, the steering went all over the shop, the brakes were suggestive.

    But… there’s not point calling it the worst car in the world – it was probably okay when it was new, I don’t think anyone would ever take any pride in it – are people proud of bargain basement spec Fords, but when it was new it probably did the job quite well – 10 years and 115k miles later it was a total liability, but as my Wife reminds me every time I mention the hateful thing, it got us through a tough time and I paid a grand for it, ran it for a year and sold it for a grand (best not to think about the £600 MOT in between).

    Second place was probably my Honda Accord – Honda’s boring but totally reliable yeah? Nope, even when it was new it had a small number of known faults that Honda quietly tried to remedy, even laughably – the headlamps were notorious for filling with water, the fancy election boot broke all the time, the sat-nav was DVD based and the discs and lasers wore out – not a biggie, buy a tom-tom or a map? Nope, because EVERYTHING in run by the sat-nav screen, so no disc, no air-con, blowers, radio etc etc. Oh, and it leaked exhaust gases into the cabin – not great that, it was a great car ruined by a long list of faults that Honda fixed for the facelift model, but not for existing owners who’d paid as much as £35k, but again it would have at least worked flawlessly for new owners.

    Nope, the worst Car in the world (or worst car I’ve ever had first-hand experience of) was the MG TF 160.

    MG Rover approached my office in the early 2000s desperate to shift some cars, they offered a brand new one to whoever in the office could shift the most of their cars (we were at the time the largest fleet leasing co in the country) for a year. I didn’t win it, but my mate did – he drove it for a bit, but he had 3 kids and school runs to do so eventually it ended up in our car park for anyone to use whenever they fancied – for the first couple of months it was names in a hat for the chance to have it for the weekend, within a month it was free to whoever wanted it, it didn’t move much.

    Its problems were 3-fold. It wasn’t as cool as a Saab convertible, or even a 3 series, but then it was a much cheaper car, but whilst people who like sports cars would love an Elise, or a MK3 MR2 or an MX-5, the MG just looked dumpy, but it was still a 2 seater droptop so without the need to actually pay money for it should have been popular.

    It wasn’t fast, not even close – despite being the top-of-the-range 160, it was annoyingly slow, it felt slower than the junior reps Polo Diesels. I don’t know if it was broken, or it just felt it, but it was less exciting to drive than the boring 2.0 Boras were had. You sort of sat really high with this oddly angled wheel, and it sort of droned from here the three, it was supposedly VVT like a Honda VTEC or Toyota VVT but it hated being revved out, but still it should have been okay for posing.

    What sealed it was, sadly it was crap. If you had to sum it up, it would be crap. It’s all in the eye of the beholder and all that, but for a 2-seater convertible it wasn’t very good looking, the MG F was too safe and sensible, it was a sports car for daily mail readers, but the TF was worse – like all the later MGs that were restyled it looked like some terrible boy racer body kit – the body was all curved and smooth, the new bumpers and stuff had sharp corners and were very square they just didn’t match. The interior was worse, it was like either they didn’t have a penny to spend on updating it, or they didn’t dare upset the handful of Rover faithful who still bought the things (probably both) so it had this fake plastic old world style interior, plastic chrome, plastic wood, that gash hexagon badge – the best bits were the MK2 Golf window switches.

    For a sports car, it was completely numb and uninspiring to drive, it drove like a cheap FWD hatch, but it was a mid-engined RWD car, I’ve no idea how they managed to do that. My Mk2 MR2 that was 10 years older drove beautifully, you felt all the effort they went to to make a small mid-engined car, this felt like they want a mid-engine to say they had one, but didn’t care why.

    Finally, though, it just broke down a lot, sometimes it wouldn’t start, it has less than 5000 miles on it, but if we didn’t start it once a week, it wouldn’t start at all without a set of jump leads. I’ve left 15-year-old Golfs in a garage for 6 months and they’ll still start, bits of the interior fell off, 2 of the centre caps of the wheels fell off.

    I know they had a bit of a following now and I’m sure their owners love them and will tell me I’m wrong, or all cars do that – but in my mind it was a crap car from a dying company that had decided decades before that “if it ain’t broke” could be applied to car design whilst their competitors kept refining and refining their cars until they were so far behind they couldn’t sell enough to raise the money to design new stuff.

    T1000
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    Trio of shoddy French cars

    A 306 which arrived with a combination of clear and tinted windows
    Citroen Xantia with leaking suspension
    and a Renault megane with shonky electrics

    Buying one French car was clearly a mistake but 3 was stupidity, they deserve their reputation for making shoddy cars

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