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  • johndoh
    Member

    Democracy

    lemonysam
    Member

    He has a right to be an arsehole, you have a right to adjudge him to be an arsehole and treat him as such. God knows what the council are expected to do about it.

    allthegear
    Member

    It’s the council managing the pitches, which are right in the face of the tourist trade. Whatever the rights and wrongs of the EDL etc, it sets a bad image for the town, no?

    Rachel

    clubber
    Member

    What can the council do? AFAIK, the EDL are legal and as such, they can’t stop anyone wearing an EDL top.

    I would find life a lot easier if all the racists walked around wearing “I’m a racist” sweatshirts. Think of the time that could be saved.

    Junkyard
    Member

    There is nothing illegal in what they are doing so it’s no worse than someone wearing an out and proud t – shirt*, an anti Christian t -shirt etc – offensive to some but its their choice and not illegal

    Personally I would go and spend the day arguing with the trader/ stopping them selling stuff and drive them out that way if you want direct action.

    Its not what I would want my town known for and I dount they are pleased
    * I assume it does not need stating which i support and which i oppose

    allthegear
    Member

    Good point, MW!!

    Premier Icon aracer
    Subscriber

    The council appear to have a fair point. Exactly what do you expect them to do?

    allthegear
    Member

    As it happens, Junkyard, under different circumstances I probably would do exactly that. Given my particular minority statuses, I’m not sure it would be wise for my safety…

    Rachel

    purpleyeti
    Member

    i’m in no way pro edl but trying to cause problems for people because they have a different point of view to you isn’t a good thing to do.

    JEngledow
    Member

    Does this mean that the council should also stop market traders wearing Man-U football shirts, as they are offensive too?!

    nbt
    Member

    Yesterday’s XKCD seems to be relevant

    skeetsgb
    Member

    i dont see a problem with it at all. like you said, he will lose a % of his trade, you could also look at it, that the other % of trade might actually agree with him……maybe ?

    arrpee
    Member

    I really don’t see what the council could do for the reasons cited above. And a good thing too, because the EDL would love it. They would see any attempted intervention by the council as a massive PR coup.

    Premier Icon binners
    Subscriber

    I would find life a lot easier if all the racists walked around wearing “I’m a racist” sweatshirts. Think of the time that could be saved.

    Indeed. Its when they dress themselves up as proper politicians, and hide behind a facade of respectability that you need to worry about them

    EDL sweatshirt = racist thug
    Nice Saville Row suit = a good old salt-of-the-earth bloke who looks like it’d quite nice to have a pint with

    edlong
    Member

    I’m glad I live in a country where nobtards can wear t-shirts expressing their political allegiances.

    I think it’s pretty weird of you to suggest that, because a tenant of the council can wear an EDL top without harassment, that that somehow implies that the council support the EDL.

    allthegear
    Member

    Trouble is; it makes the town less appealing for the possible tourists we all benefit from. That’s the problem.

    Premier Icon zippykona
    Subscriber

    Our high class local butcher wears a Skrewdriver t shirt on his day off.

    johndoh
    Member

    Allthegear, the only problem I see is your intolerance.

    Premier Icon binners
    Subscriber

    Have you thought of getting some I ‘heart’ foreign tourists T-shirts printed as a counter-balance? 😉

    sbob
    Member

    allthegear – Member

    Given my particular minority statuses

    I’m not sure having pink hair classes you as a bona fide ethnic minority.

    allthegear
    Member

    Exactly – he wears it on his days off – not stood at a stall on a Council owned market, being one of the faces visitors to the town all get to see…

    clubber
    Member

    If the EDL makes it less attractive then so be it – it’s a reflection of what the place actually is surely? I can understand that you personally might not like that effect but I think it’s pretty unreasonable to expect them to not be allowed to wear their ‘I’m probably racist’ clothes if they choose when it’s perfectly legal to do so.

    As above, maybe it’s a bit of a straw man but if your tourists didn’t like muslims/gay people/whatever should the council also respond to that and make sure that anyone looking like they might be packing a muslamic ray gun/rainbow t-shirt/etc wasn’t on display?

    Tijuana Taxi
    Member

    Think I would be more worried about UKIP in that neck of the woods, same meat different gravy

    lemonysam
    Member

    Trouble is; it makes the town less appealing for the possible tourists we all benefit from. That’s the problem.

    I take it that every day before you leave the house you think about how your outfit will affect people’s perceptions of your town? As recently evidenced on here, some people object strongly to tattoos, would you insist that all market traders cover their tattoos as people might think the place is a bit chavvy?

    Premier Icon binners
    Subscriber

    Theres this one. Too specific?

    😀

    One of my mates has actually got one of those t-shirts, and often wears it to the pub. I’m just waiting for the day it gets him punched!

    allthegear
    Member

    Maybe I have overreacted to the situation, I can see that. I was really quite shocked seeing someone wearing such a thing whilst working in the town centre.

    Rachel (not beyond reflection once in a while)

    Premier Icon Pik n Mix
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    Would any foreign tourists even know what the EDL are?

    clubber
    Member

    One of the dads at my son’s Rugby wears an EDL hoodie – made me double take the first time. Having spoken to him (not about his hoodie), he seems like a decent enough person just not very bright or well informed and probably has just gone along with the flow of his mates/etc, given that the EDL claim not to be racist and so on. It’s easy enough rhetoric to believe if you’re not the type to challenge what you hear.

    patriotpro
    Member

    gotta be trollin

    Premier Icon binners
    Subscriber

    Are you sure he’s not just into disco?

    Kunstler
    Member

    It seems strange to me to think of Kings Lynn and tourism though it might appear cosmopolitan and exotic when viewed from Wisbech.

    Premier Icon aracer
    Subscriber

    Maybe the tourists love disco too.

    alpin
    Member

    i’m surprised that King’s Lynn recieves tourists….. i was there once (was on my way back from surfing at Hunstanton and was hungry), it wasn’t the sort of place i thought i’ll have to come here when i’ve got more time.”

    it was shit.

    i would not willingly buy from a guy wearing either an EDL hoody or Skrewdriver T-shirt…..

    ernie_lynch
    Member

    I’m surprised that some people fail to understand the difference between having a tattoo and advertising the fact that you are an EDL supporter/member.

    Having a tattoo isn’t widely recognised as being offensive, in contrast, the EDL is fundamentally a drinking club for inebriated loud-mouth racist thugs, which many people unsurprisingly find quite offensive – specially when they go on organised noisy bigoted rants through their communities lobbing empty beer bottles at coppers.

    @ allthegear – you can’t expect your local council to do much to oppose the presence of the EDL in your town but you can – get involved with “We Are Norwich” if you feel that strongly about the issue.

    https://www.facebook.com/events/457715334279760/

    Premier Icon tomhoward
    Subscriber

    Those disco lovers just can’t catch a break can they?!

    Balls, Binners stole my thunder!

    Premier Icon binners
    Subscriber

    get involved with “We Are Norwich” if you feel that strongly about the issue.

    pondo
    Member

    English Disco Lovers are ace, I’m proud to support them. Don’t hate – gyrate! 😀

    Premier Icon neil the wheel
    Subscriber

    He’s entitled to wear his poxy sweatshirt.
    You are entitled to gather together all your friends and anyone else who feels the same way, make some banners and stage a noisy gathering in front of his stall.
    That’s what people did in the 1970s when the NF was prominent.

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