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  • Premier Icon molgrips
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    I just wondered if anyone knew if there was some kind of hard hmrc-related rule, or if this was common everywhere.

    5thElefant
    Member

    Go on the 5:2 diet. But… save breakfast/dinner from the off days for lunch on the on-days.

    soobalias
    Member

    doesnt sound like bad policy to me molgrips. sounds quite fair and sensible in fact

    sounds like you want your cake and eat it.

    Premier Icon molgrips
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    Why is it fair? Makes no sense.

    Lunch is claimable unless there’s a canteen. What difference does the canteen make?

    iolo
    Member

    Buy sandwiches from tesco at 11:30 pm
    They will be 20 pence
    Put them in the hotel room fridge
    Take them to work
    Put them in work fridge
    Take them out lunchtime
    Prepare a glass of water
    Drink water and enjoy sandwiches
    Total cost = 20 pence

    Again, why are you crying here?

    ski
    Member

    Have you thought about busking for your lunch?

    monksie
    Member

    My employer doesn’t pay for any of my food or travel expenses. Just the amount of money they’ve agreed to pay me for the work I’ve agreed to do.
    Feeling overly self entitled at all Mr Mol Gripes?

    nealglover
    Member

    £12.50/week then. Loaf of bread and some cheese = £4.50.
    £12.50 – £4.50 = £8 out of pocket

    You are having breakfast and evening meal paid for all week.

    So do you spend less than £8/week on breakfast and an evening meal when you are at home.

    If not then I’m not sure what the issue is ?

    £12.50/week then. Loaf of bread and some cheese = £4.50.

    £12.50 – £4.50 = £8 out of pocket

    To get like for like you need to add all your costs – capital expenses on hardware, marg, overhead (electricity to keep the marg and cheese cool), depreciation on the fridge, wear and tear on the knife, chopping board and tupperware, plus of course your time as labour…

    Just think of the savings buying a sandwich 😉

    Premier Icon somouk
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    There’s no HMRC policy on it from what I know, in theory they don’t need to provide any expenses policy at all.

    You also have very little recourse if that was the policy when you started working for the company so you can’t argue it is a change in terms and conditions.

    Premier Icon Coyote
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    Be creative.

    Box of cereal bars in the back of the car so;

    – large breakfast
    – cereal bar when hungry
    – evening meal

    The company makes the rules and pays for you to work within their framework. If they are totally un-flexible on your requirements then you have two choices, work within the framework or leave. Try talking to them first though.

    boblo
    Member

    This is often the way. Person spends 1hr on the internet in work time moaning to random strangers about not being able to claim £5 🙂 Irony? Where?

    Your line manager (the one who authorises your x’s) should be able to explain otherwise how is he/she passing them now? FWIW, when I worked at one of the big IT Consultancies, we went through a change like this. We were allowed to claim lunches on Client sites and the rules were changed due to ‘HMRC fiddling about’ or so we were told. I started doing a lot more Client entertaining…. 🙂

    Premier Icon miketually
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    £6/day is £130/mo. So on a three month assignment that adds up to the price of a pair of forks; on a six month assignment it’s the price of a bike.

    Are you not saving the cost of breakfast and evening meal? So, you come out on top anyway?

    Our rule for expenses is “don’t take the piss” 🙂

    Premier Icon geoffj
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    I hope your getting your Personal Incidental Expenses too – http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/manuals/nimmanual/nim06020.htm

    <serious mode>
    If you do a tax return, then you may be able to claim some of the tax back on items you’ve paid for as expenses – obviously it will depend on the detail of your company policy / HMRC limits etc. Speak to a good accountant </serious mode>

    trail_rat
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    quit your bleating.

    i work in west africa and get 32GBP(before tax) to feed my self for all three meals when working in the base.

    even going to the shops i cant eat for that unless i want to eat garri and igusi soup. – one meal out in somewhere you would actually want to eat could cost you more than our daily allowance.

    what i do – take a heap of food from the uk with me.

    Premier Icon Northwind
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    Our place keeps it simple- working away from home is disruptive on all levels so if in doubt, they err on the side of the employee. This costs entire pounds, sometimes tens of pounds at a time but helps keep people happy.

    Premier Icon jambalaya
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    On a short business trip, say upto 2 weeks I can claim all three meals. Longer “assignments” are classified as being your normal place of work so meals are not claimable. Pret’s expensive, Tesco Metro, M&S food, etc

    Premier Icon footflaps
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    This costs entire pounds, sometimes tens of pounds at a time but helps keep people happy.

    You need to join a union, they’ll soon negotiate away such frivolous perks and have you all out on strike demanding bread and water……

    Premier Icon Del
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    anyway, while this is all fascinating, i’ve got two dogs to walk in the sun, before heading for the airport for a few days work in scandanavia, where i will ‘luxuriate’ in the 30GBP/day sustenance allowance i negotiated in to the contract. breaky is provided by the hotel, and there’s a site canteen, which is free to me…
    😀

    warton
    Member

    we get 30 quid a day, spend it how you want. Spend small on lunch, nice dinner, then a few beers for the train home.

    trail_rat
    Member

    if it makes you feel better mol im having a home made ham salad , a poppyseed sub with left overs of last nights roast and some salad in , a rice pot and a heap of fruit….. cost about a quid.

    konabunny
    Member

    My employer doesn’t pay for any of my food or travel expenses.

    Mug.

    Premier Icon footflaps
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    i work in west africa and get 32GBP(before tax) to feed my self for all three meals when working in the base.

    even going to the shops i cant eat for that unless i want to eat garri and igusi soup. – one meal out in somewhere you would actually want to eat could cost you more than our daily allowance.

    Do you not buy local food? All the locals in Ghana / Kenya etc just seem to eat goat / rice fry ups cooked fresh on the street. Not got ill so far eating local stuff (as long as it’s fried in front of me, I’ll risk it).

    Premier Icon andytherocketeer
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    On a per diem thing here. UK company was £100/day, notionally split as £60 for hotel, £40 for food, phone calls, compensation, etc. Here the rate varies depending on visited country. No claiming back for specific meals or expenses, just an automatic N days+nights and the expenses form is filled in automatically from the travel request form.

    if it’s just travelling kind of within normal commuting hours, then there are no expenses afaik. some visited site will give a free visitor lunch voucher, others expect you to pay just like I’d have to do anyway.

    6 weeks in French Guiana paid quite well 😉

    IT consultant poverty, the shocking truth

    This expose of the way defenceless middle managers are exploited for their lunch money will outrage and offend. Only read on if you have the stomach for it.

    It has come to our attention that people with barey the means to feed an expensive bicycle habit are routinely forced into feeding themselves. This can even take the form of buying bacon and cheese croissants ot popyseeded prawn and maire rose baguettes. Surely this madness has to STOP before somebody gets disgruntled or even irrtated. Can you help? We are appealing for volunteers to take these unfortunates in and give them complementary finger buffets, if you’ve got a minor glitch in your database and fancy spending thousands on an ineffective solution outsourced to the subcontinent let us know and we’ll send a couple of theese pillocks round to snarf your goujons with dippers.

    trail_rat
    Member

    footflaps – we aint even allowed off the truck between camp and the base in nigeria.

    im not “that fussy” but – like you if its cooked infront of me i have no issue BUT its very rare i see that where i work and most of it as i say is igusi soup and garri.

    clubber
    Member

    Good old STW 🙄

    Most companies will allow lunch to be claimed in the circumstances you descripe molly. If yours don’t then they’re a bit crap and you need to decide how big an issue that is for you.

    Obviously this is a first world issue but then I expect that most of the people pointing that out have plenty of their own FWIs that they complain about too.

    clubber
    Member

    Case in point (sorry, just the most recent one having a go at Molly)

    The stabiliser:
    http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/woe-is-me-bletherbarrow-sanitised

    It’s a complete non-issue in the scheme of things, isn’t it.

    Premier Icon zilog6128
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    Perfect excuse to try out Intermediate Fasting. Just have one (massive) meal a day in the evening.

    Either that or start foraging for your lunch. Are you anywhere near Battersea?

    Premier Icon footflaps
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    footflaps – we aint even allowed off the truck between camp and the base in nigeria.

    OK Nigeria is very different to Ghana / Cameroon security wise!

    Ah you sure they don’t mean you can only claim for lunch if a free (to you) meal isn’t available from some on site catering?

    trail_rat
    Member

    Obviously this is a first world issue but then I expect that most of the people pointing that out have plenty of their own FWIs that they complain about too.

    yep mines currently that the poppyseeds off my cheap sandwich are scattered on my desk can mol confirm if expensive pret sarnies do this also ?

    iolo
    Member

    Maybe we could do a molgrips lunch telethon.
    We could get a load of famous people off of the seventies to answer the phone.

    Won’t work iolo – phones aren’t allowed in jail.

    clubber
    Member

    yep mines currently that the poppyseeds off my cheap sandwich are scattered on my desk can mol confirm if expensive pret sarnies do this also ?

    Just tested it and I can confirm that they don’t. This should mean that they are a legitimate expense as they are avoiding a signifiant potential EHS issue in the workplace (poppy seeds getting into keyboards/mice!)

    iolo
    Member

    Anyone know what Bob Geldof if doing?
    Maybe he can help

    clubber
    Member

    Just called. He said he was busy trying to sort out TheStabiliser’s disaster at Bletherbarrow. Priorities and all that.

    Aparently he’s putting on an Opera-thon for it…

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