- Work related expenses (wtf content)
When travelling for work, my company allows us to claim for breakfast if we have an early start, and dinner, even if we are going to be home that evening but late, but they do NOT let you claim lunch. The only time they will let you claim is if there is no access to on-site catering.
Now this is clearly ridiculous. If I’m at home, or commuting from home I can eat my own sandwiches at little cost. If I’m in London then I have to pay £6 or whatever every day, so I am clearly out of pocket. I wonder if this is due to some kind of tax related issue? There’s also no definition of ‘on-site catering’. I wonder if they are assuming that on-site catering is free.
There’s no legal obligation for them to make sure I’m not out of pocket, is there?Posted 4 years ago
lunch you’d have regardless
Not for £5. I don’t pop out to Pret a Manger when I’m at home!
But they WILL let me claim if there’s no on-site catering. That makes no sense. Either I’m entitled to claim lunch or I’m not. The presence of on-site catering doesn’t make a difference.. UNLESS by ‘on-site catering’ they really mean ‘free on-site catering’.Posted 4 years agosomoukSubscriber
I’ve had similar discussions with out FD about lunch expenses and can see the logic that you would eat it anyway and the other two are to compensate for being away from home on work time when you would normally have finished for the day.
In theory though you’re right that if you were at home it would cost significantly less than eating from service stations or cafes in London so you end up out of pocket.
Raise it with them and see what they say.Posted 4 years ago
Make my own lunch? So what, take five lots of cheese sandwiches in my suitcase? Don’t fancy eating those on a Friday.
There is a canteen at the place I work currently but it’s not significantly cheaper than the outside options.
I don’t get it – I’m out of pocket, so why I can’t I claim it?
I’ll email them later, but I doubt I’ll be the first.Posted 4 years agoNickSubscriber
That sounds like the same as my place, the on-site catering is subsidised so cheaper than Pret therefore they will fund your Pret lunch but not your work’s canteen lunch. (The Ivy is probably cheaper than Pret though).
In reality it’s all a bit moot, depends who signs off your expenses. Had a couple of weeks in Amsterdam, best work’s canteen ever, all expensed.Posted 4 years agoandylMember
If you are away and claming for breakfast and dinner you are not having to eat your own food at home and use your own gas/electricity. All you have to do is buy yourself a £3 meal deal from somewhere for lunch or a bank busting £5. Wow!
Net result is you are actually better off as all you are having to buy is lunch every day. Unless you normally manage to eat breakfast, lunch and dinner for less than £5 a day?Posted 4 years ago
£5/day is £130/mo. So on a three month assignment that adds up to the price of a pair of forks; on a six month assignment it’s the price of a bike.
Not insignificant to me.
If I’m in a hotel I can only charge for brekkie at the hotel. However eating a big one of those and skipping lunch might be the only cheap option.Posted 4 years agoRussell96Subscriber
I can claim a subs allowance if I’m away from my normal place of work £5 or £10 depending on the length of time away, needs to be backed up with a receipt for some sort of food on the day concerned, breakfast and evening meal can be still claimed for as per the usual early start/staying away rules.
However the way our place observes the HMRC guidelines is that whilst you get the £5 or £10 thru expenses there is a deduction from your wages the next month such that you only end up ahead by the amount of tax you would pay on the £5 or £10 in your wages.Posted 4 years agocompositeproMember
from what i remember when cotracting there was a big whoo har from HMRC saying if you were an employee you would have to fund or provide lunches yourself as you would any other working day
this was countermanded kind of by the worker who whilst working away say they lived in scotland but were working in london did not have facilities to make dinner ta breakfast etc
The HMRC GUIDLINE is 5 quid was allowable as a single meal payment rising to double that for a dual meal payment lunch and breakfast with you having to provide your own evening meal regardless of where you are even then if HMRC are in the mood they will redact all that has gone before and say screw you guysPosted 4 years ago
If they were giving you a small pay cut to work at a particular site, I’m sure you’d be complaing too.
£2.50 in Manchester
Where I’m not.
£12.50/week then. Loaf of bread and some cheese = £4.50.
£12.50 – £4.50 = £8 out of pocket
The issue is why do they let you claim lunch unless there’s ‘on-site catering’? That’s what doesn’t make sense.Posted 4 years ago
They aren’t flexible.
You can get an allowance instead of expenses if your assignment is longer than three months. Mine is almost never that long in one place.
Sandwich and apple from Sainsbury’s (national chain). Coffee from McDonalds (international chain). Stop whining and be grateful for what you have.
Stop answering the wrong question.
Be grateful for what you have.. yeah, thanks, that’s a brilliant idea. We should all be grateful for bad policy.Posted 4 years ago
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