William Hague is an idiot
It’s got absolutely nowt to do with us! Have we really learned so little from all such previous foreign policy catastrophes?
By all means send humanitarian aid, but I can’t think of any conceivable benefit of sending more arms into a region evacuated by anyone with a brain and a sense of self-preservation, leaving it populated almost exclusively by complete head cases! Let ’em get on with it!Posted 4 years agoernie_lynchMember
China is also quite an important player who can’t be simply ignored.
Much of the problems concerning the international response to the crises in Syria stems from the fact that both Russia and China felt they were wrong footed over Libya, which of course they were. The West far from remaining neutral as agreed at the UN, heavily supported one side in the Libyan conflict. The newly installed Western backed government in Tripoli immediately cancelled contracts with the Chinese. Although ironically Western companies are now pulling out as post-Gaddafi Libya is proving to be too dangerous for them.Posted 4 years agosouldrummerMember
When is this country going to stop sticking its oar in on others affairs. Is Hague really saying that the ‘moderate’ rebels can’t get hold of arms in a region of the world that is absolutely dripping with them!! Madness!! What really worries me is that we seem to be getting ready for a new conflict just as we are getting ready to leave Afghanistan.Posted 4 years agoJunkyardMember
We should have learnt not to arm AQ (which its widely accepted the Syrian rebels are)
Is it is widely accepted by everyone?
I am not denying that the rainbow coalition of opposition includes Islamic extremists including AQ but it is false to suggest this is all they are or that it is widely accepted.
Difficult call tbh given the external and internal players as it is between a rock and a hard place
Watch an illegitimate govt brutalise its people or join in to make it better [ which it is unlikely to do in the short run]and risk making it even worsePosted 4 years ago
Reading between the lines it seems that the US has decided that between AQ and Iran, AQ is the lesser evil. Hague is being used as a mouthpiece for this. I think Uncle Sam is trying not to be seen as meddling, and us, France etc are doing their bidding.Posted 4 years ago
If America don’t like it, they can go. Otherwise they can sort out their own problems.
Oh Jy, I thought it was established that AQ are pretty much running the show now.chewkwMember
Yes, he is …
Unlike the previous wars in Iraq & Libya where there was no strong support for the regimes but this time things might be very different and someone is going to cry …
I mentioned this earlier in another thread.
chewkw – Member
Before we solve our own problems what is this with the govt(s)(UK & France – now trying to drag EU into the war) wanting to intervene in the Syrian internal conflict?
Shouldn’t the govts put all their efforts in solving their own societal problems first? What a bunch of busy bodies trying to arm the opposition? The problem will come back to roost.
This concept of self appointing world police will back fire in future when, again, we are going to ask the same question again why this happens here again …
If they arm the opposition then the others can also arm the other side.
Talking about creating Demoncracy …Posted 4 years agochewkwMember
The Saudi might be providing financial support but is there a need to be a loud mouth to broadcast to the world that UK is getting involved? Even if Saudi is providing financial aid at least they do it silently whereas UK (not even the US) is openly asking to arm the opposition. What a tool …
No wonder everyone hates us. 🙄Posted 4 years agorobdixonMember
The dwp’s IT systems have been a shambles for a good 10 years ever since John Prescott was specifically cautioned against the proposed changes to existing systems by Microsoft’s Enterprise Consulting team – they have advise to the DWP and ODPM that the changes to accommodate tax credits were complex, open to fraud and would be costly and difficult to administer . That advice was pretty much spot on as it turned out so I’m not sure it’s fair to blame IDS for the mess that the last lot left.
As for Hague, he was a pretty exceptional strategy consultant at McKinsey and is still held on high regard by those who worked with him – he’s certainly no idiot and I rather suspect could run rings round most people.Posted 4 years ago
Oh Jy, I thought it was established that AQ are pretty much running the show now.
It’s not even widely accepted that Al-Qaeda actually exists – certainly not in the way it’s portrayed in the media.Posted 4 years ago
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