Will this North Korea thing kick off?
I read it as the whole thing is just a smokescreen to get some new UK military policy through..
Did we not pay kim jong un all of our redundant stocks of printed jazz mags to say a load of stuff that makes Korea look scary, thus preparing our hearts and minds for some sort of ongoing arms trade with the US that will net CMD’s bosses billions of tax free moola..?
Or was that me reading between the bits between the lines..?Posted 4 years ago
Either that or we could be facing the prospect of this cold snap ending rather abruptly and dramatically, with searing winds from the far east.. and err.. west
Korea moves big rocket to East coast, US moves big rocket to Guam. etc.
Interestingly both sides announce very publicly what they are about to do. Which you have to admit is quite considerate – it at least gives the other side a chance to work out what to do next.Posted 4 years agonick1962Member
So Kim Jong-un says North Korea is at war with the west.He brainwashes,starves and brutalises his own people. They have tested nuclear devices and have intercontinental ballistic missiles to fire them across the world. They also have chemical and biological weapons and a mahoosive army.Posted 4 years ago
Tony Blair where are you?andrewhMember
Hope so Roger. It may be unpopular on here but I’m all in favour of keeping/replacing it (maybe with fewer warheads, but more submarines) I for one do not want to live in a world where NK have bomb, and are working on missiles, and Iran are trying to get, if we don’t.Posted 4 years ago
I know neither pose a direct threat to us now, but in 20yrs time? Who knows.
We could meet our obligations under the NPT by replacing it with a system with fewer warheads, we don’t need enough to destroy the planet six times over, just a few would suffice.
As for cost, £25bn. The national debt is well passed £1tn, £25bn would be a drop in the ocean.
I was hoping so, what with no world cup or euros, no olympics July/August looks fairly quiet.
It all looks like posturing and the like but then again nobody quite knows how much of a nutter he really is (or those below him) In the end it would be good if they launched everything and it just fell over on take off.Posted 4 years ago
I for one do not want to live in a world where NK have bomb
Funnily enough that is exactly the same argument that the North Koreans use, ie, the Americans won’t attack us as long as we have nuclear weapons.
Perhaps a few more countries can be won over by that compelling argument ?Posted 4 years agoandrewhMember
That’s the problem Ernie. Once one counrty have it, everyone else wants it.Posted 4 years ago
Can we say no to them from a position on the moral high ground? No.
Should we deny them the right to have it in our own self-interest? Yes.
if we can’t uninvent it we can at least attempt to contain it to those who already have it. If we gave ours up would NK and Iran stop trying to make one? Unlikely, so we should keep ours. It’s a practical arguement, not a moral one.
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As a signatory to the non proliferation treaty the UK has an obligation to pursue in good faith and bring to a conclusion negotiations leading to nuclear disarmament in all its aspects under strict and effective international control. (Article VI)
Except international control gets ignored by tin pot dictators.Posted 4 years ago
But then I agree with scrapping Trident because it’s only ever going to come down to the big players anyway.
South Korea cares about its people, the North doesn’t.
So if anything was to happen it’d be the North firmly starting it.
The South would definitely win but the biggest loser would be the South.
It will happen. Really really **** sad this. The North has no capacity at all to topple or top off their own leader. Madness.Posted 4 years agoKlunkMember
There are echoes of the build up to World War One here though; America and North Korea playing the roles of Britain and Germany in the build up. This ‘game of chess’ mirrors what was going on back then
that’s stretching it a bit, a conflict between Austrian-Hungarian Empire and Serbia set in motion a series of events which lead into WWI due to pre established treaties…. Russia mobilized to protect Serbia, Germany counters to side with Austria, France has a treaty with Russia… Britain declares war because Germany invades neutral Belgium.Posted 4 years agoslowoldgitMember
The Fat Boy is acting like a spoiled brat. I guess he’s grown up within the elite: sheltered, pampered and ignorant of reality. He’s probably surrounded by minders and sycophants, and kept ignorant of the starvation etc that is the lot of the common people. As happened in Romania, realty may take over in a short and brutal purge, especially if the Chinese get worried.
We live in interesting times again.Posted 4 years ago
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