Why isn't marmalade called orange jam ?

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  • Why isn't marmalade called orange jam ?
  • Jamie
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    Because it’s made with citrus fruits and/or peel.

    …or as first hit on Google says:

    These days marmalade is defined as being made from citrus fruits. Originally, marmalade was made from quinces — the word comes from ‘marmelo’, which is Portuguese for quince.
    Marmalade is made by boiling the juice, pulp and peel of the fruit with sugar and water.

    Jam can be made from any fruit (or even vegetables in some cases) and just refers to a preserve made by boiling the fruit (or veg!) with sugar.
    Marrow and rhubarb are two vegetables that are commonly made into jam.

    Conserve is similar to jam but contains whole fruits (strawberry conserve would therefore have whole strawberries in it, while strawberry jam could contain just pieces of strawberry.)

    I look forward to your follow up threads, why aren’t sandwiches called bread stacks 😀

    chewkw
    Member

    That’s hardly any orange in it isn’t it? Just a few shreds.

    Banana jam will put you off because it will turn black in colour …

    camo16
    Member

    Yeah, and why isn’t custard called sunshine sauce?

    Oh, is that it ?
    I was hoping there was some global conspiracy behind it.
    Is the answer really as dull as;
    Citrus fruit + sugar = marmalade
    Non Citrus fruit + sugar = jam

    oldnpastit
    Member

    I was led to believe that Mary Queen of Scots was seasick on a voyage from Scotland to France. Orange jam was the only thing that she could eat, and the crew, being french, used the words “Mary malade” to describe her condition, which she thought was its name.

    Banana custard doesn’t go black.

    I’ve never understood why ketchup isn’t call tomato jam.

    Jamie
    Member

    Banana custard doesn’t go black.

    They used to dye it, which is illegal. A lot of people got arrested and were detained in custardy if I remember correctly.

    camo16
    Member

    That’s the sunshine sauce keeping it yellow.

    IanMunro
    Member

    Raspberry Jam’s the dangerous one.

    oldnpastit, were you also lead to believe that “kangaroo” is the Australian aborigine word for “I don’t know”.

    As in;
    Captain Cook “What’s that animal over there ?”
    Aborigine “Kangaroo”

    camo16
    Member

    How dangerous exactly is raspberry jam, IM? Another death conserve?

    oldnpastit
    Member

    It’s more plausible than the plainly absurd invention in Wikipedia. That talks about a derivation from the Portuguese for Quince.

    As any fool knows, marmalade doesn’t contain quinces. It contains oranges, or possibly lemons.

    Anyway, does kangaroo go well with marmalade?

    z1ppy
    Member

    ernie_lynch – Member
    I’ve never understood why ketchup isn’t call tomato jam.

    Cause tomato jam (tomatoes & sugar) is not ketchup (tomatos lots of other stuff, vinegar and some sugar for sweetness), as I learned on here last week 😉

    How dangerous exactly is raspberry jam, IM? Another death conserve?

    Call it a **** and see what happens.

    cruzcampo
    Member

    Marmelade and peanut butter on toast, pre-ride, with a strong coffee, NOM.

    and some sugar for sweetness

    A third of ketchup is sugar 🙂

    camo16
    Member

    Marmalade AND peanut butter? What kind of sicko are you?

    I’ve insulted my raspberry jam for the last five minutes… Called it a ****, a dirty **** and even a filthy low down sum *****. Nada. It’s the cheap stuff though… Does that make a difference?

    cruzcampo
    Member

    camo16 you can buy jarred peanut butter+jelly/strawberry jam. Why not the more fruitful Marmelade? Try it 😀

    vickypea
    Member

    The Greeks call them all “marmalade” regardless of the fruit.

    z1ppy
    Member

    Not in that recipe! Jam is fruit plus sugar, no vinegar involved.

    Or lemon or lime jam, as the case may be ?

    And why no banana jam ?

    The Greeks call them all “marmalade” regardless of the fruit

    I believe the Germans do too

    warton
    Member

    what about red onion marmalade?

    Jamie
    Member

    I believe the Germans do too

    So do the Ghanians. Think it’s mostly countries whose name begin with the letter G.

    warton
    Member

    The Grenadians definitely call it Jam though. Weird.

    cbike
    Member

    The “marm est malade!” explanation was suggested on a telly prog recently.

    Jamie
    Member

    The Grenadians definitely call it Jam though. Weird.

    They’ve always been the black sheep of the locations which being with G, more commonly known as G-Spots, though.

    philbert31
    Member

    Unfortunately my mrs didn’t fall for the old sunshine sauce line…..

    andrewh
    Member

    Is tomato ketchup a sauce or a condiment?

    Premier Icon Stoner
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    more to the point, why is it Lemon Curd eh? eh?

    andrewh
    Member

    I know that one! Curd has eggs in it, jam doesn’t.

    Jamie
    Member

    Lemon, and other fruit, curds were invented in Kurdistan. The K was swapped to a C for tax reasons, as during the Maths uprising in 1908, letters were increasingly taxed on the amount of internal angles they possessed. As a result many letters, such as Z, K, M etc were underused, and the average scrabble score went down.

    Premier Icon Stoner
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    much more likely.

    thenorth
    Member

    Interestingly, there is a legal definition for both (Jam Regulations)..

    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2003/3120/schedule/1/made

    andrewh
    Member

    See, I told you there was eggs in curd Stoner!

    andrewh
    Member

    Oh come on, spotted as soon as the screen came up and edited within 20 secs and still someone has picked up on it! I can’t hide it now Jamie and now I look foolish. Or Stoner looks foolish, it’s not me who’s full of eggs!

    clubber
    Member

    IanMunro

    Raspberry Jam’s the dangerous one.

    I wonder how many people got that 😀

    Loganberry jam, anyone?

    Premier Icon neil the wheel
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    so if marmalade is made from the fruit, juice and pulp of oranges boiled in sugar and water, why are all the best selling brands even allowed to be called marmalade? They are mainly made from glucose/fructose syrup and contain only 20% fruit.

    CountZero
    Member

    Jamie – Member
    Lemon, and other fruit, curds were invented in Kurdistan. The K was swapped to a C for tax reasons, as during the Maths uprising in 1908, letters were increasingly taxed on the amount of internal angles they possessed. As a result many letters, such as Z, K, M etc were underused, and the average scrabble score went down.

    😆

    konabunny
    Member

    Mary Queen of Scots was seasick on a voyage from Scotland to France. Orange jam was the only thing that she could eat, and the crew, being french, used the words “Mary malade” to describe her condition, which she thought was its name.

    MQOS moved to France when she was 5 and returned to Scotland when she was 18. She was probably more comfortable conversing with the French sailors than with the Scots.

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