Why is Vettel so terrible?
Apparantly if he keeps winning, F1 will lose its fans, not sure why though.Posted 4 years agostumpy01Member
In answer to the OP, that 1 finger salute along with the way he screams “yes, yes, yes, that’s what I’m talking about!” repeatedly when he wins is what makes him terrible for me.
With regard to the dominance of Vettel/Red Bull, that doesn’t bother me as much as all the other nonsense around conserving fuel, mincing around on tyres that will only last a few laps, drivers not being able to overtake on track because there will be a ‘better’ opportunity when they come into the pits to leap frog the person they are trying to overtake.Posted 4 years ago
And a lot of the tracks don’t help. Places like Monaco are impossible to overtake on, even though they are supposed to be the highlight of the calendar and then you have other places with tons of run-off (smooth tarmac, not gravel) so there is little consequence to a driver’s actions. Obviously the racing should be safe as possible, but some of the drivers try stupid manoeuvres safe in the knowledge that if they don’t work, there is hundreds of feet of tarmac to use and get back on the track, rather than 6″ deep gravel that they will get stranded in.
Oh, and safety cars……people work really hard to build up a gap and then the safety car comes out and bunches them all back up so any strategy goes out of the window. They all have GPS, so why not have a system where they can still circulate the track but are held in position, give or take a certain amount of allow for all that tyre heating shenanigans….clubberMember
OK legend but I expect that people watching MX are a much narrower and specific audience than mainstream sports. And I’ll bet that even there, people get bored of it eventually unless the actual competition in itself is spectacular enough that it doesn’t matter if the competition is lacking.Posted 4 years agopondoMember
OK legend but I expect that people watching MX are a much narrower and specific audience than mainstream sports. And I’ll bet that even there, people get bored of it eventually unless the actual competition in itself is spectacular enough that it doesn’t matter if the competition is lacking.
I think that’s a fair observation – in fairness to legend though, watching his perfect seasons WAS incredible, just the scale of the achievement was immense, every bit as unlikely as someone winning every F1 GP. By the end of the year you were cheering him on no matter how bored you were of seeing him crush everyone. 🙂Posted 4 years agopondoMember
On reflection, it’s also in the nature of the beast – watching RC or Stewart pinned on a 2 stroke is entertainment in itself, so even if they were miles in front they were worth watching. F1 requires such precision that watching one car on it’s own isn’t that much fun – if Vettel was driving with the tyre-smoking brio technology favoured in the seventies, say, his relentless runaway wins would be more entertaining than they currently are.Posted 4 years agobikebouyMember
Anyone remember the domination of Rossi in MotoGP a few years back, then Stoner..
That too got a little samey but still I watched, Rossi on form is a sight to behold, so too Stoner.
But F1 has always left me cold never mind the drivers ability, it’s the way it’s run and the format they adopt. Some keep asking for a return to the 70’s/80’s style cars and no holes barred racing but thats in the past. All this nonsence about Kirs/Kers/Kirsch and whatnot is playing with what is a simple format.
Fastest car & fastest driver wins. Vettel can knock em’ out day in day out, pretty good IMO, shame he’s taking the Jibes and finger wagging..Posted 4 years agothekingisdeadMember
F1 is different from other sports in that you can’t marvel at the sheer brilliance of man and machine in perfect harmony in the same way you can watching the all blacks or Barcelona dominating an opponent. It needs the competition / uncertainty, otherwise, it’s, frankly, dull. I say that as a massive f1 fan.Posted 4 years agoscaredypantsSubscriber
I’m not that fussed who wins but the format needs a proper shake-up IMO
Drop the flimsy fragile crap they drive round in now and use enclosed bodies, minimum roof heights and cockpit widths – so a proper sized person can fit in.
Weight of driver plus seat should be a proper amount, maybe 85-90kg – if you’re too light, your seat has to be heavier (and not all at the base)
Sure, high power engines and KERS etc but ban tyre stops, or at least enforce a minimum duration for pitstops that is punitive and prevents the ludicrous pit-lane “overtakes” that currently happen
(or flip a coin as tthew suggests – probably unworkable but I’d like to see drivers changing cars every round so we get to see if Vettel’s really the best)Posted 4 years agoigmSubscriber
I like Vettel. I like that he gets excited when he wins. I feel he’s (or at least he on behalf of his team and himself) earnt the right to hold up the number one finger when he wins (and is it any worse than Cavendish holding the number of stage victories up when he wins?).
Have tyres that easily last the race even when you’re following someone, not quite enough fuel to last a full race on full boost (but almost), and an aero design that creates a fuel saving slipstream being mandated. Thus trying to be at the front all race would probably not be the best idea. Thus overtaking would be necessary. But maybe, just maybe if you could get a second or so gap and turn the wick up early you might get away, build a gap and try to stay out as the peloton closes. It could turn F1 into a motorised version of cycle stage racing or maybe velo track sprinting – but at least the fireworks would be set the end.
PS Vettel should just have told everyone that the reason he overtook Webber is because it’s a race and they were racing. Confusing for most F1 fans but technically true. And it’s not like there wasn’t previous on both sides.Posted 4 years ago6079smithwMember
Why is Vettel so terrible?Posted 4 years ago
Let’s see, he got lucky and spoon fed like a spoilt brat.
He’s generally not very likeable (not his fault).
Thinks he’s bigger than the team.
His celebrations are awful. Though the doughnuts are a nice attempt to please crowds.
Brazil GP he coulda slowed and let Webber win. How popular would he be for doing that? Loads. But he didn’t cos he’s awful.
Hamilton and Alonso are better drivers.
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